Comment # 2

Sega.. Thanks. It looks absolutely amazing. I can not wait for the summer!!!!

Posted by sonicemerald on February 4th, 2010 at 1:20 am

Comment # 4

Looks beautiful, SEGA! We hope you’ll showcase the actual game soon, as the video didn’t really get to leave much of a taste in our mouths. Level design looks beautiful.

Iffy on the homing attack gimmick.

Posted by serpx on February 4th, 2010 at 1:21 am

Comment # 6

SEGA, NO!
No Sonic moving like that D:
Why he’s walking instead of running at a sonic speed? NO 3D Sonic, Sega!
That reminds me Sonic Rush or something. Sloppy slow movements and a homing dash? No way!

Posted by OmegaFM on February 4th, 2010 at 1:22 am

Comment # 8

YES!

All of those years defending Sonic’s games — finally, I have a big ol’ “SO THERE” ready to go.

It was worth staying up until 3:00 AM, with classes looming!

Posted by Yamishi on February 4th, 2010 at 1:23 am

Comment # 10

Make sonic’s legs spin like they did in the original games or even in CD and then we’ll talk.

Posted by Casshern on February 4th, 2010 at 1:24 am

Comment # 12

WHY SEGA? WHY?
Seriously, why have you used is green eye design? Come on, we wanted oldschool sonic…

Posted by Phoebius on February 4th, 2010 at 1:24 am

Comment # 14

Sweet finally a good sonic game coming down the pipe.

Posted by Teancum on February 4th, 2010 at 1:24 am

Comment # 16

Finally. This is what we have been waiting for.

FINALLY.

Now get this on a new console with a big ‘ol blue SEGA logo on the front, and the world will be a better place!

Thanks SEGA! Can’t wait!

Posted by Zac on February 4th, 2010 at 1:25 am

Comment # 18

YYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

Posted by Zamrok on February 4th, 2010 at 1:26 am

Comment # 20

EPIC!!!! SEGA!!!!! I think its the 1990′s again. Watch out Mario, Sonic means business!!! Great work SEGA, I hope to see more at E3 or even sooner, im gonna download it on 360, PS3, and WII.

Bless You SEGA and Sonic Team, it was worth the wait ^_^

CHEERSSSS!!!!!

Posted by SegaSonic on February 4th, 2010 at 1:26 am

Comment # 22

Am I going too far when I say “Now my life will be complete”?

No.

No I’m not.

Posted by Yamishi on February 4th, 2010 at 1:27 am

Comment # 24

Yes do NOT listen to those “bwaaah why green eyes/3D/Homing attack” arguments. This game will be great !

Posted by Adamis on February 4th, 2010 at 1:27 am

Comment # 26

Thanks SEGA! The game looks awesome as expected!

Posted by Faker on February 4th, 2010 at 1:28 am

Comment # 28

Sonic’s walking/running animation is really odd. Other than that, the game looks promising. I just hope the level design and music are as good as the Genesis/CD/Dreamcast era.

Posted by Acro on February 4th, 2010 at 1:28 am

Comment # 30

Check out the trailer here: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/sonicthehedgehog4episode1/video/6249444?hd=1&tag=topslot;watchlink;1 for a full resolution version!

Looks great guys. Even though it’s 3D, it’s still very colorful and stylish. Looking forward to it!

Posted by Mit on February 4th, 2010 at 1:29 am

Comment # 32

OMG ON THE WEBSITE, THEY PUT THIS:
COMING 2010 on PSN, XBLA, WiiWare and ???
IS SEGA GOING TO LAUNCH A NEW CONSOLE????
THERE IS ALSO A UNKNOWN CHARACTER TOO!
:O

And I really don’t care if Sonic has green eyes!

Posted by G-MAN on February 4th, 2010 at 1:30 am

Comment # 34

Sweet. Now let me catch some much needed sleep.

Posted by Sonictrainer on February 4th, 2010 at 1:30 am

Comment # 36

Looking good. I just have one criticism, for now.

Sonic’s legs.

Please take a look at the older games; notice the sense of speed Sonic gives when he’s running? His legs appear to move FAST.

The transition in the trailer, from old Sonic to new Sonic, actually makes the modern Sonic appear a great deal slower. Because he *is* slower; his legs move much slower. It looks really bad in the launch trailer.

I highly highly recommend making modern Sonic appear to run faster. It’s something old and new fans would like. I guarantee that no one would be against such a change.

Thank you.

Posted by hardcore_sonic_fan_with_insight on February 4th, 2010 at 1:31 am

Comment # 38

Mixed results.

I can’t say I’m not a little disappointed. But at the same time I want to know more than just 3 seconds. It just looks really slow, like someone mentioned it looks like Sonic’s jogging.

And I’m still angry about the episodes thing. Sonic 3 could be played as a game on it’s own and so could S&K. It doesn’t sound too good to me.

Looks like I’ll be spin-dashing a lot.

And he’s lost the insta-shield to time I suppose.

I need to play it or at least see more to judge.

My current instinct?

Downloadable NSMBWii knockoff that won’t be as nearly as good as what we would like to think.
It looks like a console version of Sonic Rush, just slowed down to a snail’s pace.

Posted by GekkouKitsune on February 4th, 2010 at 1:32 am

Comment # 40

I wonder what the mystery console is.

Posted by Jetsco on February 4th, 2010 at 1:33 am

Comment # 42

Where the heck is everyone seeing the homing attack??????????????????????????????? Whats wrong with it anyway??? What if they made it so that you could play as old style sonic as an unlock or something??? Why criticize this awesomeness??? SEGA can’t please every single fan with their own ideas c’mon haters…

Posted by Jaysonicfan on February 4th, 2010 at 1:33 am

Comment # 44

Guys..please. SEGA finally gave you what you wanted and there’s no reason to complain now. Just, stop or the SONIC cycle will continue. (IE: Start up again)

Posted by Haruchan on February 4th, 2010 at 1:34 am

Comment # 46

actually, i wanna know what that Mystery release is.

looking at the official website, it says XBox Live, WiiWare, PSN and has a mystery thing at the end.

even on the trailer it has a black box with a padlock on it.

So what is it SEGA? What’s the Big secret?

Posted by Zamrok on February 4th, 2010 at 1:35 am

Comment # 48

Wait a minute….

On the site, it says for WiiWare, PSN, XBL, AND “???” o_O

This sounds a bit interesting. I won’t get negative about this game yet. We only saw a few seconds of gameplay, so I won’t say anything yet until we see more footage.

Posted by AngelJump on February 4th, 2010 at 1:35 am

Comment # 50

Ah! i love the level design but his running animation is lacking it just doesn’t look fast i really did like the blurring feet of the old games

Posted by RueZen on February 4th, 2010 at 1:35 am

Comment # 52

I don’t understand. You’re returning to classic styled Sonic graphics with the level and badnik design but you’re using the awful green-eyed Sonic from Adventure onwards? Kind of disappointing; Sonic’s running animation looks off as well. Homing attack too?

Other than that the graphics look good. Hoping Sonic gets a new model/animation set before launch.

Posted by what up on February 4th, 2010 at 1:36 am

Comment # 54

Please, don’t homming attack. I want plattforming and control sonic’s momentum.
So if it’s optional, i can ignore it.

Posted by Manolic on February 4th, 2010 at 1:36 am

Comment # 56

I’m not going to be one of the people crying “slow”, but I do wonder (dare I say hope?) they incorporate the old running animation somehow.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 1:37 am

Comment # 58

@Riana

Yeah, exactly. The running animation is WAY too slow looking. It seriously needs to look like he’s actually sprinting. And the homing attack should be thrown out. That was one of the key differences in with 2D sonic and 3D sonic.

I seriously hope Sega is listening here.

Other than that, this is a step in the right direction.

Posted by Joe on February 4th, 2010 at 1:38 am

Comment # 60

In the GameSpot interview, it is mentioned there will be a homing attack. That’s where everyone is making their judgment at, even though they do not know the capacity in which it will be used…

Posted by Stas on February 4th, 2010 at 1:38 am

Comment # 62

Great job Sega looks awesome!! I was actually very surprised to see how “classic” of a look the graphics have even though they have a modern touch. Very very awesome!

And Sega, don’t listen to these nitpicky negative comments about “green eyes” or “new level design”. these guys are just being nitpicky.

And I’m pumped that you already have more games in the works beyond Episode 1!!!!

Posted by sonicfan82 on February 4th, 2010 at 1:39 am

Comment # 64

Yes!!!!! Thank you for letting us Wii Fans get in on this too.I still have 2,800 Wii points left and now it seems now i know why i saved them for some special reason.Thank You again SEGA!! I have something to hopefully download during the summer now.No need for me to use my Wii Points.I know what my next buy download wise is.That is Sonic the Hedgehog 4.I don’t care about graphics as long as the gameplay is great.

Posted by KnucklesFan26 on February 4th, 2010 at 1:41 am

Comment # 66

Little disappointed. The jog looks pretty odd and it just looks fan made to me. I was kinda hoping for a Super Street Fighter HD Remix look to the game visually. Not clunky looking 3D.
The episode thing scares me too. Lost my excitement

Posted by Ron on February 4th, 2010 at 1:41 am

Comment # 68

GET RINGS ALL DAY

Posted by CHECKERBOARD DIRT on February 4th, 2010 at 1:42 am

Comment # 70

I’m not happy with the 3D graphics instead of HD 2D sprites, but meh, the classic gameplay should be good. And beyond that, I’m actually happy it’s coming out on all three major systems! It’s nice to see the Wii’s not being forgotten, even if it’ll only run in 480p. So thanks for that, Sega.

Posted by JordanRinehart on February 4th, 2010 at 1:44 am

Comment # 72

@ChaoticFox: I was thinking the same thing.

I think they’ve done a great job on replicating the games of the past (bar the running animation, but it is an early build, presumably), I’m glad they used the newer Sonic design as it would have just been strange seeing the old one in 3D/HD.

One more thing, anyone got any idea when the winners from yesterday will be announced? And if there’s any more fan concept art coming?

Posted by Swiss on February 4th, 2010 at 1:44 am

Comment # 74

Sega… this is a massively broken fanbase in action. Don’t let it wear you down. Let those of us who appreciate this trailer keep your spirits up

Posted by Hatch on February 4th, 2010 at 1:44 am

Comment # 76

why are people complaining about the homing attack it’s just like the old ones they add something new to each one like sonic 2 gave the spin dash sonic 3 several characters new shields bigger game and more and now this with so far new graphics and homing attack.

Posted by danny on February 4th, 2010 at 1:46 am

Comment # 78

Yes, aesthetics do matter, and there is no need to resort to name calling because people do not agree with your view point. I find the Sonic model and the green eyes aesthetically pleasing. It’s all a matter of opinion, and it would be ignorant to think that everyone feels the same as you.

Posted by Stas on February 4th, 2010 at 1:46 am

Comment # 80

WE TRUSTED YOU AND YOU BIT US

FUCK

Posted by King Scourge!!L1zu7Nr5D8/ on February 4th, 2010 at 1:46 am

Comment # 82

no….no…nononono!!! THIS IS SONIC ADVACED 4… SONIC RUSH 3…. PORKUPINE MAN 11!!!!!!!! THIS IS ANYTHING BUT SONIC 4….

WHY IS THE FAKE SKINNEY SONIC THERE!!!??? WHY!!!!!!!!????????

please sega…. nononononononononon…. i dont care if its downloadable or not…

DONT DISGRACE OLD SONIC…. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by oldskool sonic on February 4th, 2010 at 1:46 am

Comment # 84

SEGA, you are so awesome! Thanks for combining classic Sonic with modern Sonic (and for having 3D graphics)!

Posted by Richie on February 4th, 2010 at 1:48 am

Comment # 86

IT WOULD BE ACCURATE TO SAY YOU HAVE NO TASTE TOO.

JUST GO CRAWL IN A CORNER AND DIE.

Posted by King Scourge!!L1zu7Nr5D8/ on February 4th, 2010 at 1:49 am

Comment # 88

*cries* this isnt sonic 4…. looks like the war between oldskool and newskool will still go on…. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

http://raverkidd.deviantart.com/art/Meeting-the-end-151748492

r.i.p REAL SONIC

Posted by oldskool sonic on February 4th, 2010 at 1:49 am

Comment # 90

The 3d models and 2d plains don’t seem to mesh well… maybe it’s something that has to grow on me, but I was rooting for HD sprites.

Still. This is the best choice you guys could’ve made. Maybe now you can go back and figure out how to make a decent 3d Sonic game like back in the SA and SA2 days. I’ll stick by Sonic as long as he’s around, but I hope this is the start of you guys showing some respect to your #1 mascot again.

Posted by TheKazeblade on February 4th, 2010 at 1:50 am

Comment # 92

It amazes me how ignorant people can get if they don’t get exactly what they want. Thank you very much SEGA, this truly was worth staying awake till 3 in the morning to see and i cant wait to download. I too see the running animation to be alittle slow too but im guessing since the game is nowere near completion, you plan on fixing that mechanic. This games visuals look beautiful from the trailer and im sure they will look even better on the actual game. and lastly…i say the other character is either robotnik or maybe playable tails?

Posted by ecp on February 4th, 2010 at 1:51 am

Comment # 94

LOOKS AWESOME…..JUST FIX THE RUNNING ANIMATION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Posted by venom2431 on February 4th, 2010 at 1:53 am

Comment # 96

plus it looks **** i can bet the 3d based controls will not be the same as the original games, ie tight not sloppy, sorry sega but i aint even gna touch this

Posted by snowy10r on February 4th, 2010 at 1:53 am

Comment # 98

And Here we go… Is that the Sonic Cycle I hear? I think it is!
SEGA – WHY Download!!! WHY! I like to have a nice copy of the CD!
Have you not SEEN the success of New Super Mario Bros Wii???
Sonic The Hedgehog 4, you’ve just kicked the original 4 games in a place that isn’t very nice to hit! At all!
Sonic’s legacy has been destroyed again and again, it seems you want to kill it off just that little…bit….more
so yeah it looks good, looks fun, looks like Sonic Rush/Unleashed/Advance… NOTHING like the original games, at all. I said to someone, Sega shouldn’t call it Sonic 4, its HEAPING pressure upon it, and you have. Shot yourself in the foot.
Put it on a disc for god sake, so you don’t Alienate so many people who Don’t have internet… yes thats right many don’t.
The Badnik concept and even a tree… all Mega Drive look, and then we see a nice new game, that looked nothing like the old classics… I personally LOVE Sonic Adventure 1 and 2. Amazing games, but it went downhill and this is a cash in, I wish this was called something else so I could except it easier. SEGA – Put the effort into games your fans do… please

Posted by Leighton Owen on February 4th, 2010 at 1:57 am

Comment # 100

Guys, don’t let the negative comments keep you down, this game is looking excellent so far. Like Ruby said before, its impossible to please everyone with one game, but this game looks like it’s gonna please A LOT of old school and [probably] newer fans (and it’ll probably end up getting great reviews). Keep up the great work, guys!

Posted by Richie on February 4th, 2010 at 1:57 am

Comment # 102

Segas speech:

“We’ll release this as a tiny download only game with ugly Porkupine Man models so it won’t risk outselling 3D games” …….
“then they add one of the worst music jingles in Sonic history” ……
“and homing attack”……

http://raverkidd.deviantart.com/art/in-his-wooooooorld-152607209

Posted by oldschool sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 1:58 am

Comment # 104

Hey, wait a minute! Coming Summer 2010 on XBLA, PSN, Wiiware, and “???”? What does that even mean?

Posted by Joel on February 4th, 2010 at 1:58 am

Comment # 106

Oh…Well I can live with the new sonic, but it wasn’t as good as I was hoping.

This makes me literally cry SEGA. I can’t beleive it, I really can’t.

You. Have. No. Heart. Anymore. ;_;

Posted by Hatchet on February 4th, 2010 at 1:59 am

Comment # 108

If you’re crying over Sonic’s eye color, you need to grow up.

Posted by DM Ashura on February 4th, 2010 at 2:01 am

Comment # 110

>tell people to mature

>think new Sonic is ‘mature’

WAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by King Scourge!!L1zu7Nr5D8/ on February 4th, 2010 at 2:02 am

Comment # 112

I’m Pretty Danged Hyped for this!! But, I do Have a question… Is the game shown right now still a work in progress, and if so What stage of building it are you guys in? Looks really fantastic so far!

Why do people care so much about his design? I for one like his post “Adventure” design. The Gameplay is what’s important. Yes I shall be Downloading this onto my Xbox no matter how many episodes it turns out to be. I have been a fan of the blue dude with ‘tude since 1991 and look very forward to Sonic 4.

Posted by Rugdog on February 4th, 2010 at 2:03 am

Comment # 114

You guys rock.

After all these years, a true Sonic game on the consoles. It’s been years since a true sequel to Sonic 3. Here’s hoping you all can pull off a decent 3D game after this one, and that this particular game will usher in the Renaissance of Sonic.

Here’s hoping I can play Amy Rose in the final retail product.

Posted by Long time Sonic Fan on February 4th, 2010 at 2:04 am

Comment # 116

@people who are angry at those who are disappointed in the games: we were told this would be a retro title, back to the classic sonic games. further, we were told the game would be a new 2d adventure. the only problem we have is that we expected what we were told to expect.

We were told we were getting a 2d game, and we got a 2.5d game.
We were told we would be getting a classic sonic game, but he’s sporting the DC+ look.

I’m still going to pick it up, and see how it stands, but yes, this was being compared to MM9/10 when it’s not following suit.

Posted by Moi on February 4th, 2010 at 2:05 am

Comment # 118

Certainly looks interesting, though obviously I can’t judge too much from the 5 or so seconds of actual footage. I do agree that the running looks awkward, though I’m hoping that’s just the animation used when he’s below full speed. Sonic needs the whirlwind legs to look like he’s truly running at full speed.

That said, I’ll definitely be keeping track of this game, which is the first time I’ve done so for Sonic since the Dreamcast games. Here’s hoping it comes out well.

Posted by Cyber Sonic on February 4th, 2010 at 2:06 am

Comment # 120

Sega, did you know “Hedgehog 4″ was trending?! By was, I mean only for a couple of minutes, but that’s still quite amazing! I wish I would’ve taken a screenshot.

Posted by theneedlemouse on February 4th, 2010 at 2:07 am

Comment # 122

they asked for a backlash when they blacked out the original sonic to build hype only to replace it with that above

Posted by snowy10r on February 4th, 2010 at 2:08 am

Comment # 124

sega uve failed to please the Oldskool hardcore fans again….. all you had to do was use the Iconic sonic. not the Masonic demonic sonic.

Posted by oldschool sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 2:10 am

Comment # 126

Where the fuck is my big the cat. I NEED FISHING LEVELS. Who doesn’t want to go fishing for rings and emeralds and whack Robotnik with your pole?

DERP DERP!

Posted by oldschool sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 2:11 am

Comment # 128

Pretty interesting trailer, but once again, much too quick to form a solid opinion. As long as the game is fun to play, you’ll have my purchase. Sadly enough, my only complaint is that the game is downloadable only and not retail; I’m old fashioned and prefer to go to the store and pick up a physical copy (Hey that’s just me, though.) However, I understand the reasons for releasing it digitally. Verdict: I’ll be watching on the sidelines and wait to see how it goes. Best of luck!

Posted by HWTrousers on February 4th, 2010 at 2:12 am

Comment # 130

What… what… WHO IS THIS GUY??

I return to its roots i presumed meant creating the original sonic character complete with its tiny tail and oversized, cute black eyes….

Having the pointy eared sonic that looks like a blue super saiyan was not what i had in mind. People have Sonic Riders if they ever want to see a gay looking Sonic…

I pray the gameplay and super speed graphics will make up for this….

Posted by Janson on February 4th, 2010 at 2:14 am

Comment # 132

@ DM Ashura

NSMBWii is selling and the fans are ok !!
Sonic 4…you will see…

See all the comments,this is not the game that the fans want

Posted by Fco on February 4th, 2010 at 2:14 am

Comment # 134

the Emblem in the original teaser was a complete scam!!!!! FUCK YOU SEGA FUCK YOU.

Posted by oldschool sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 2:16 am

Comment # 136

I dunno Fco, you seem to be pretty outnumbered. But I’ll take you up on this “you will see”!

And Janson, you didn’t want a blue Super Saiyan? You realize that Super Sonic (premiering in Sonic 2) was inspired BY Super Saiyans right?

Posted by DM Ashura on February 4th, 2010 at 2:18 am

Comment # 138

It looks okay and really nobody can judge until we see more but from what I’ve seen I have to say there are two things that looked horrible. The first is Sonic’s animations. He looks really odd while running full-speed. I didn’t know why until I looked at the older games and it makes sense–his legs never spin. Fix that and it’ll definitely look better. Another thing that looks bad was the fact that nearly everything Sonic touched created smoke. It’s overdone. Leave the smoke for the spindashes, explosions and whenever a player wants to go the opposite direction Sonic is going. Besides that and a few more things (personally, hand-drawn sprites would have looked a lot better) I am looking forward to this.

Posted by RS on February 4th, 2010 at 2:19 am

Comment # 140

this trailer is a disgrace to the original sonic franchise… im sorry sega…. im sorry everyone who doesnt understand what im going o about….

Posted by oldschool sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 2:20 am

Comment # 142

Well, I thought I could positively contribute to a discussion about this, but with this level of drama being flung around… I think I’ll just make a speedy exit instead.

I hope you guys realize that the outside world looks at the Sonic Series’s immensely broken fanbase as more notorious than newer Sonic games’ bad quality. And every time a new game comes out that isn’t perfect to individual standards, it breaks up even further. This discussion board is solid proof of that.

Posted by Hatch on February 4th, 2010 at 2:22 am

Comment # 144

“We want Blast Procesing not 2.5 SEGA”

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

http://www.giantbomb.com/blast-processing/92-963/

Blast Processing wasn’t real. It was just a marketing ploy.

More proof that the hardcore fanboys who are wahhing about Sonic’s green eyes have no idea what they’re talking about.

Posted by DM Ashura on February 4th, 2010 at 2:25 am

Comment # 146

whos that? that isnt sonic. :s

Posted by oldschool sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 2:29 am

Comment # 148

If they had taken a survey before designing the game they would’ve avoided this scale of critism when it’s too late to listen

Posted by snowy10r on February 4th, 2010 at 2:34 am

Comment # 150

I also congratulate you SEGA on making a smart move. 2.5D is honestly the way to go with this. Please dont forget bonus stages and dare I say…super sonic lol. And a lack of voice actors would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by ecp on February 4th, 2010 at 2:35 am

Comment # 152

When I read that I nearly fell out of bed! Best.wakeup.ever!

Having watched the trailer, I am now more excited than before I knew what it would be like!

In al honesty, I don’t know why people are getting funny about it. It’s NOT an HD remake of previous games. It’s a new game, a sequel. Considering it’s going to be in Hd, they might as well take full advantage of the extra power they now have compared to 16-bit and update a few things, such as the Sonic Sprite etc.

It might not be Sonic as he was back in 1991, or 1994 when Sonic 3 came out, but it is Sonic as he would be today.

I love it. Absolutely love it. Now, where’d I put my mega drive..?

Posted by MaGNeTiX on February 4th, 2010 at 2:37 am

Comment # 154

Ah yes, before I forget!

SUPER SONIC! You must include Super Sonic!

Posted by MaGNeTiX on February 4th, 2010 at 2:37 am

Comment # 156

I suggest the mods delete most of the posts by this “oldschool sonic fan” who seems to insist on posting the same trite garbage over and over and over again with “Porkupine Man” pictures.

Posted by DM Ashura on February 4th, 2010 at 2:38 am

Comment # 158

@ecp comment #104 – Clearly you’ve ever heard of Mega Man 9. Or the upcoming Mega Man 10. Just saying.

Posted by RS on February 4th, 2010 at 2:39 am

Comment # 160

…

Posted by oldschool sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 2:41 am

Comment # 162

@oldschool sonic: If you don’t like it, you don’t have to come here and comment. Just close the browser tab, quit the browser, shut down your computer, dig up your Genesis and play your S3K.

Posted by BoltClock on February 4th, 2010 at 2:44 am

Comment # 164

i have to agree with oldschool sonic fan. sure spamming is pointless. but im understanding him.

Posted by an' oldie on February 4th, 2010 at 2:45 am

Comment # 166

I just hope that Super and Hyper Sonic come back.

Posted by Anthony on February 4th, 2010 at 2:46 am

Comment # 168

This is what I’d been dearly hoping would not happen. I hoped and wished that the rumors would not be true.

…and it turned out we got Sonic the Hedgehog 4.

First we got Sonic 1 with its unique momentum gameplay, rolling mechanics, fast sidescrolling mechanics, stylish world and unique enemies.

Then we got Sonic 2 which added to the formula with spindash, a sidekick character named Miles, except he was named Tails due to some bias against the name miles, new enemies and zones, new interactive zone props, and more.

With Sonic 3 we saw lightning and fire shields, larger zones with hidden rooms and new things to explore.

Sonic & Knuckles had Lock on technology and silent cinematics for zone transitions that didn’t break the gameplay.

Each game kept the original formula, story line, adorable but badass characters and charm of the original, but improved technically and added something new.

But then we got Sonic the Hedgehog 4. Rehashes of the most basic badniks and zone art, Emerald Green Hill Zone act 588, lanky surfer dude Sonic, the homing attack, lack of Insta-shield, lack of optional characters like Tails and Knuckles.

This can’t possibly be the true Sonic 4. This is Sonic Advance 4 at best. A real Sonic 4 would be a new chapter in the story of Classic Sonic and not surfer Dude Sonic.
It’s an orthodox rehashing that tires to appease old fans and new fans alike by kissing their arses. A bunch of things straight from Classic fans requests, homing attack to make it seem modern, remixed zones because your concept artists need to retake surreal environments 101.

This “Sonic 4″ looks more like base fan service than the vision for an original game it should be.

tl’dr version: Please add Classic Sonic skins (and his animal friends from the Genesis games in badniks)as DLC or unlockable so the modern and classic fans won’t go to war because of that Sonic 1 emblem turning into Porkupine Man.

Posted by Porcupine Man the Porcupine the Man on February 4th, 2010 at 2:50 am

Comment # 170

Wii Haters be damned, it’s coming to Wiiware.

Posted by Starlight Rage Zone on February 4th, 2010 at 2:53 am

Comment # 172

And seriously wow.. I was cringing when I was seeing some of the ‘abusive’ comments here, settle down please everyone – so things may not have gone EVERYONES way, be happy for what you have at least.

Posted by Sonicismyhero on February 4th, 2010 at 2:55 am

Comment # 174

Wow. I never realised the fanbase could be so ungrateful. This… is really sad.

Please ignore the haters, SEGA. I believe in you and know you can deliver.

Posted by Flyboy Fox on February 4th, 2010 at 2:57 am

Comment # 176

I don’t want to judge this game just yet because we haven’t seen much, but this was a bit disappointing.

The only thing that would bring my hopes up just a bit is if they show better moments of gameplay and most importantly special stages. You can’t have a retro-like Sonic game without them and hopefully it’ll be a very creative new one.

Posted by AngelJump on February 4th, 2010 at 3:06 am

Comment # 178

I’m on the side of all the supporters… I’m positive that Sonic 4 will do just as great if not even better than the originals. Sonic has always been my childhood hero and will continue to be. Thank you for EVERYTHING, really.

Just fix the running animation because it’s quite true that it doesn’t quite match the speed at which Sonic is shown running.

Posted by BoltClock on February 4th, 2010 at 3:08 am

Comment # 180

I WOKE UP AT 4 AM FOR THIS?!

…Thanks, Sega.

Posted by TheOGB on February 4th, 2010 at 3:12 am

Comment # 182

No homing, No unfinished running animation…

Homing will make the game easy…
And the running animation… reminds me of Sonic Rivals

So if I wanted New Sonic in 2D I would have Rush or Rush Adventure.

Posted by Dude on February 4th, 2010 at 3:14 am

Comment # 184

and, what happend with the concept art fans¿?

Posted by playerDNG on February 4th, 2010 at 3:16 am

Comment # 186

I wonder why Sega is not supporting PC?

PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC PC

Posted by Mina on February 4th, 2010 at 3:18 am

Comment # 188

Waiting for it

But i don’t like the running animation, it seems too much to Sonic Rush
Sonic 3 style would be great!

Posted by Antonio J on February 4th, 2010 at 3:23 am

Comment # 190

lol YEAH WII!!
I dont have xbox live but i can download wiiware games
I GET TO PLAY SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4!!! YEAAAA!!!

Posted by Farzad555 on February 4th, 2010 at 3:28 am

Comment # 192

this is sonic. not that thing up there.

http://i47.tinypic.com/8wkth4.jpg

Posted by oldskool for life on February 4th, 2010 at 3:35 am

Comment # 194

This is an AMAZING update! I absolutely love the shiny, bright colours used! I’m so happy! =D Love that it’s even got the sign post at the end of the stages. =P Great stuff!

Thanks so much, Sega!! Perfect!

And to those who are complaining about stuff all: They’ve done such a great job by the looks of things. You people are just going to nitpick at anything they would have brought out.

I’m sorry, but if you’re seriously going to bag out a game just because Sonic has green eyes, and doesn’t spin his legs in a circle really fast, then you can just go ahead and play the old games, and not have to worry about this one when it comes out. Get over it.

Posted by KierEmJ on February 4th, 2010 at 3:37 am

Comment # 196

So we got Sonic The Hedgehog 4 down, now all we need is Sonic Adventure 3 lol
-Running animation
-Animals in badniks
-Special/Bonus stages

Posted by ecp on February 4th, 2010 at 3:39 am

Comment # 198

@A Knothole Resident

Your post summed up how I feel too. SEGA, you have 5 months…

Posted by Stasis on February 4th, 2010 at 3:42 am

Comment # 200

ok I would just like to say, to SEGA, that so far, the maybe 3-4 sec of actual (yes all of you ‘Nay sayers’ ACTUAL) Gameplay is looking very promising and I CANNOT wait to see more progress as we come closer to its release. To everyone who can’t see it; the animation (before and after the clip of the level design) is NOT gameplay, but merely the ‘jog’, ‘jump’, and ‘idol stance’ of sonic put together probably using an animation mixer to show you, the viewer, the designs of sonic and a few badniks…..To all of you close-minded, immature people out there that can’t take change; the character have been modeled, storyboards have been drawn, you can’t do a GODDAMN thing about it so GET OVER IT!! I am a hardcore sonic fan of the Genesis Era and, as a 3d/2d Artist, I personally like the change. My God….It’s like you people can’t be satisfied with anything. The 3d gameplay is gone so now you mad at the fact that it still looks 3d?! Has long the design and 3d models don’t get in the way of the momentum-based platforming gameplay we loved as children, why in FUCK should you care?!?!?! If you want continue to live in the past and cling onto the old-fashion look, go back and play Sonic 1,2,3, and Knuckles; or go play some Megaman 10!!! Oh…..and as for the homing attack’s continued existence in this game; if they do this right, the attack could add to platforming difficulty. Instead of an attack, it could be used as a means for getting across a bottom-less pit if there are flying badnicks over it…you have to open your mind to possibilities!!!…..I mean, the game is nowhere near being released and some of you are already nitpicking and bitching about stupid shit!! Have your faiths been battered so severely that you will condemn this game before you give a try?!….phew….Anyway…..SEGA, continue using your better judgement on the art while staying true to the fast-paced, side-scrolling, platforming, goodness we all fell in love with from STH 1. ^_^ SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4 FTW!!!

Posted by Baron Martin on February 4th, 2010 at 3:48 am

Comment # 202

I hope Masato Nakamura, Jun Senoue, and Richard Jacques all involve in the game.

Posted by Mina on February 4th, 2010 at 3:50 am

Comment # 204

The ones who are complaining seem like the ‘children’ here. >_> I have loved Sonic since I ever had my grubby hands on the Genesis back in 91′ SO it’s not your ‘classical’ design Sonic, it will NOT break gameplay. Honestly, people just seem a tiny bit’ butt hurt.

If things went your way, others would complain. It’s the way it works. Some are over the moon, some are making threats to stay away from the game, honestly – SEGA dosen’t care if you do or don’t. The ones who have a loving for the classic ‘GAMEPLAY, will surely lap this up. You play Sonic for the thrill, challenge of keeping your speed, and fun mechanics, not to sit idle and drool over the design.

Posted by Sonicismyhero on February 4th, 2010 at 3:52 am

Comment # 206

Fix the character model (we wanted classic Sonic, not that new school Uekawa freak).
Fix the animation.
Fix the physics (speeding UP when going UPHILL? PLEASE.)

Then we’ll talk.
Until you do that, you can stop pretending that your target audience is the classic fans. I, for one, was not fooled, and now I get to say “told you so”… again. I hope that the rest of the classic fans will take the blinders off their eyes. You got punked, guys, I know it hurts, but that’s how it is.

Posted by nicochi on February 4th, 2010 at 3:55 am

Comment # 208

…That was nice. Really, really nice I am looking forward to it thoroughly. I’m sure the running animation everybody’s going on about will be different. I’m just a lil’ disappointed that it’s gonna be an episodic download game. I was hoping for a full, standalone game Ah well, beggars can’t be choosers

Posted by Steffanic on February 4th, 2010 at 3:57 am

Comment # 210

Dear Sega,

Remove the Homing Attack and all will be well.

Best wishes,

The fans.

Posted by d20 on February 4th, 2010 at 3:58 am

Comment # 212

I was honestly expecting a 2D cel shaded game. Oh well…

I do agree, why is modern sonic designs in the game? Also, I don’t mean green eyes like everyone else seems to be complaining about but with so much hype about a new title being the successor to S&K, I really wanted a nice smooth transition from classic sonic to current sonic with classic’s Sonic’s porpotions with green eyes. Or Eggman’s modern features with his classic outfit.

Thats a nice blend of old a new.

Heres a quick mockup I drew of classic sonic with green eyes.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/961/44981573.png

Posted by RGX on February 4th, 2010 at 3:59 am

Comment # 214

please…change sonics design!!!

Posted by oldskool for life on February 4th, 2010 at 4:01 am

Comment # 216

“The ones who have a loving for the classic ‘GAMEPLAY, will surely lap this up. ”

I don’t recall there being a homing attack in the Genesis games. As I recall, the direction and the speed at which you attacked an enemy would affect the way you bounce off, like a super ball. But hey I guess noobs enjoy having the game do all the work for them.

Also, I don’t remember receiving a magical boost of speed when running up a hill, quite the opposite in fact, you needed to put some effort into building up some momentum to pass such an obstacle. Either that, or sacrifice all your current speed, come to a complete stop, and do a spin dash.

This reminds me of the lackluster Rush series. Why not just call it Rush 3? Oh, right, it’s because at least the music isn’t terrible.

Posted by nicochi on February 4th, 2010 at 4:01 am

Comment # 218

Seriously, you must think that the Sonic fans we are stupid or something like that.

The aspect of Sonic in Sonic Adventure’s Style plus the enemies from Sonic 1 don’t fit well, bad 2.5 D animation, I see several fan games, even the project Sonic 2 HD that SMASH in the ground this downloadable abomination.

In conclusion, how disappointing. Today, I die a little bit from inside.

Posted by SolBad on February 4th, 2010 at 4:02 am

Comment # 220

I also find it fascinating that all of you babies suddenly now EVERYTHING about the game from a 3-4 sec clip of the gameplay…..”OMG sonic looks 3d so the gameplay is gonna fail so hard”…. all sense of rationally is thrown out of the window …….d-_-b……..Looking forward to the STH4 Ep 1!! I CAN’T WAIT

Posted by Baron Martin on February 4th, 2010 at 4:10 am

Comment # 222

Sega finaly you got it right!
Sonic will be back again like old times!!

Posted by The best fan on February 4th, 2010 at 4:18 am

Comment # 224

Okay, I can’t say that that fact that it has been revealed to be 3D after all has not saddened me a bit. I won’t make any assumptions of the game right now as only a few seconds of gameplay has been seen and I’m sure the game is still in the workings. Like many others have said, the running animation is one of the major things that need to be improved.

But really, I was like many others, hoping for HD 2D (H2D?) sprites. I bet it would look alot better than 3D. Sonic was really never made for 3D in my opinion but I will wait and see if this new game is able to prove me wrong.

Posted by Blazaking on February 4th, 2010 at 4:20 am

Comment # 226

Reasons why this game may fail:

1 – Multi episode game

2 – The sonic animation, is like a crash dummy jumping without control (kidding, but isn´t great after all. We see if before summer it changes)

3 – The sonic design is like Sonic Adventure, WE DON´T WANT THAT. If you make a “new sonic with a classic style” we want a classic sonic style, don´t that.

4 – This looks like Sonic Rush, a “2,5 game”. No, we, the very old fans, don´t want that. We want a megadrive cart… maybe with the SVP xD, or at least, a trully 2D game, don´t that.

5 – If you think now that I´m wrong, and this game rocks and look awesome, play the old series and then speak with me xD.

Posted by KawaiFS630 on February 4th, 2010 at 4:24 am

Comment # 228

There is no balance between you fans.

Its either:
A. OMG! I HATE THIS GAME SO MUCH GRRR..
B. I CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS GAME ITS GONNA BE THE BEST EVER.

Then the only thing you people agree on is fighting about it without respecting anyone’s opinion. Then complain at eachother and start fights.

Have standards people. As well, be appreciative on what was done right, and respect other people’s opinions.

50% hate the modern design in the game while 50% couldn’t care less if the classic design wasn’t in it. Am I the only one who wanted a smooth transition with the blend of both new and old sonic? I mean wouldn’t a classic proportion Sonic with green eyes appeal to both sides? Or Eggman’s modern face with his classic outfit? I mean its not 100% retro or 100% modern but it will give a sense of both old and new into the character.

Posted by RGX on February 4th, 2010 at 4:26 am

Comment # 230

Robotnik WILL FINALLY BE THE MAIN VILLAIN SO NOW IS TIME FOR A REMATCH

Posted by BIGBDAMAN4EVER on February 4th, 2010 at 4:28 am

Comment # 232

HELLZ YEAH

Posted by Grace Marquis on February 4th, 2010 at 4:31 am

Comment # 234

DLC. That’s the only thing wrong here… it’s DLC. What about those players who DON’T have internet access, and can’t afford said access? Are we going to miss out? I’ve been playing Sonic since 1991, and if I miss out because it’s a fucking DLC ONLY GAME, I’m going to be pissed.

Posted by Dizzles on February 4th, 2010 at 4:34 am

Comment # 236

Oh, I also have to add… those of you complaining about his green eyes? They were green on his Sonic 3 sprites too.

Posted by Dizzles on February 4th, 2010 at 4:35 am

Comment # 238

@Dizzles

I do agree. :c I hope they do a whole “Tales of monkey island” thing, and release all the episodes on disc for Xbox, PS3 and Wii for those without downloadable access, when the episodes are complete.

Posted by Sonicismyhero on February 4th, 2010 at 4:38 am

Comment # 240

EVERY DOUCHEBAG THAT JUST WORRY BOUT EYES OR THE LEGS OR DA BODY SHUT DA F#$% UP COSE DERE R OTHR THINGS TO WORRY BOUT LIKE DA BOSSES ,LEVELS ,GAMEPLAY MECHANICS,ETC SO LIKE I SED BEFORE SHUT DA F#$% UP

Posted by BIGBDAMAN4EVER on February 4th, 2010 at 4:40 am

Comment # 242

Just a mention to people that doesn´t like Homing Attack: Sonic 1 MegaMix is an awesome Sonic 1 hack, and it uses the Homing Attack while being completely classic.

It isn´t the movement what´s wrong, is the design of the levels in most of the games where it´s featured. This isn´t a mistake, it´s an improvement if used correctly. There are many kind of badniks in classic Sonic games where Homing Attack would fail.

I agree with the running animation though Don´t care about green eyes.

Posted by Knuckles MetalMind on February 4th, 2010 at 4:49 am

Comment # 244

@200
Sonic’s green eyes in Sonic 3 were only a Super Saiyan reference when he was super, and they also prove that green eyes were already possible back then but not preferred. In most of the higher definition artwork for Sonic Jam and Sonic the Screensaver, Sonic, Tails and Amy all had brown irises.

Changing Sonic permanently to a lanky green eyed dude changed the perception of him. It totally screwed brand consistency, split the fanbase and lost some of his original charm along the way. The same happened with his world, plot structure, enemies, friends, gameplay. This probably involved new artists, different people calling the shots in Sonic Team, and different types of fans coming on board so it’s an irreconcilable split.

The only way you’d truly get classic Sonic back as something better than fanservice would be bringing in a new guy who’s familiar with classic Sonic to re-imagine him, with a fitting art style that sets him apart from the other games. Maybe by making Sonic and Robotnik into the nature/freedom allegory so many fans imagined him as in Sonic 1.
When somebody has the balls to show Sonic with black eyes and no Super form, and show the animals actually being trapped inside the badniks as batteries and forced to fight their own friends(freaking out millions of ten year old kids across the world), *then* old Sonic can return as even the most extreme nostalgia gamers would want him.

Posted by Porcupine Man the Porcupine the Man on February 4th, 2010 at 4:53 am

Comment # 246

I agree with a couple of people here, why does it look like he’s “Walking”? I miss the running feet animations of the old Sonic games… Maybe they’re there, we just haven’t seen it yet… Honestly if that’s there, then I’ll just love this game lol (and of course Super Sonic after you get all of the Chaos Emeralds PLEASE!!!)

Posted by Kaozth3orist on February 4th, 2010 at 4:55 am

Comment # 248

I think its great what SEGA have done and they’ve given us a combination of old and new to good effect. All the people who don’t like the new job aren’t being very open minded. I imagine alot of sonic fans didn’t like it when they changed the graphical style from sonic 2 to sonic 3 thinking it was too ‘forward’.

I personally think a download release is perfect because alot of companies aren’t going to put out discs for a single download without charging alot more than its worth. Think of Xbox Live Arcade Vol. 1. or Elder Scrolls Shivering Isle. SEGA will defo release them all together in some form or another on disc so we needn’t worry.

My guess at the price point would be

Xbox – 800 to 1000 points
PS3 – £7.99
Wii – 1000 points

I would probably say the same as PS3 for PC if it released on that format and £4.99 for an iPhone port if it did happen.

Sonic 4 is gonna be great!

Posted by Sonic Boom on February 4th, 2010 at 4:57 am

Comment # 250

Omg grow up people. Stop bitching about sonic eyes color.
Current Sonic’s design is really cool. And the design will not make the game be bad.
Stop saying this uselees and no-sense things to SEGA.

But yeah, sonic running animation is really ugly. SEGA you have all the time of the world to fix it, so do it plz. BTW the game looks awesome

Posted by Kirs on February 4th, 2010 at 5:00 am

Comment # 252

This was amazing. I almost cried tears of joy here, SEGA.

THANKS for bringing it to the WII, in the first place. I don’t think anybody’s thanked you for this before, so allow me to do it again.

I understand you probably don’t have the rights to use olcschool Sonic since the original co-creator Naoto Oshima isn’t around anymore… ok that’s understandable. But I beg you SEGA, please, if you’re going to implement motion controls… could you please only use them in BONUS STAGES?

Now one thing everyone’s right about is, Sonic looks as if he’s walking. You know, one of the biggest charms Sonic had back then was when his feet became a red blur. They’re as iconic as the blue quills! Don’t take that off, ok?

You’re doing GREAT so far SEGA! You already have my money on this one, just fix those issues to reduce negative criticism! ;D

Posted by Tearror on February 4th, 2010 at 5:01 am

Comment # 254

This is fantastic!! Can’t wait to download this! Yes.

Posted by autumnseed on February 4th, 2010 at 5:03 am

Comment # 256

Awesome trailer [momentum-based speed is finally back baby - no cheap 'Let's Run' or 'Boost' gameplay]!

And hey look, you Wii only guys get in on the action [earlier than expected] too [though whether you see screens as late as Unleashed Wii is another story entirely].

The inclusion of the ‘Homing’ attack is abit odd at the minute [since in my head it seems as though it'd make attacking somewhat cheap], but maybe once I’ve seen it in 2D play I’ll see its point. Maybe…

Just some Special Stage footage to go [per-lease?]

Posted by Chosenoneknuckles on February 4th, 2010 at 5:06 am

Comment # 258

Alot of people are complaining about it being episodic, I don’t think it will be that bead because they are only trying to mimic Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, which both turned out great as two parts to ONE game.

Posted by Laxturtle on February 4th, 2010 at 5:08 am

Comment # 260

I did care what sonic would look like bu all I care now that it is sonic 4 I know it will be good.

Posted by Videogamefan24 on February 4th, 2010 at 5:12 am

Comment # 262

I Loved it but,

A Homing attack? O-o Why?

Also his feet arent moving in circles (cause hes so fast)
Fix it D:

Posted by SuperLightning on February 4th, 2010 at 5:14 am

Comment # 264

Sega, I am disappointed. First of all this was advertised as a classic Sonic game, which means the classic look and animations should be there. You made another Green Hill, which is just a complete rehash. And worst of all, you added a HOMING ATTACK according to your site. In a CLASSIC SONIC game, homing attacks never existed, and they were never needed! How could you! With the homing attack, this game is anything but classic Sonic. Once again, you have disappointed the classic fans.

Posted by synchronizer on February 4th, 2010 at 5:14 am

Comment # 266

So Sonic 4 is to be released on Wiiware, PSN, Xbox Live and ????…. hmm, would this be SEGA’s new console by any chance? Shall have to wait and see I guess.

Posted by Bentendo on February 4th, 2010 at 5:17 am

Comment # 268

Personally I’m fine with the homing attack. My biggest concern is that Sonic is immensely slow, but wasn’t it hinted at in an interview that speed has to be earned. Maybe their are more maneuvers needed to make him go faster. Hopefully that doesn’t involve a lot of button mashing.

Posted by The Shield on February 4th, 2010 at 5:20 am

Comment # 270

fuck you sega.

you’ve just killed classic sonic

Posted by Cstyler on February 4th, 2010 at 5:22 am

Comment # 272

No classic Sonic design in a supposed succesor to the classic series? What were you guys thinking?
This move will put off so many lovers of the classic series.

Posted by ICEknight on February 4th, 2010 at 5:26 am

Comment # 274

Honestly, I never thought, SEGA, you would make something like this. You’ve been so attached to the format of Sonic Adventure to Unleashed I though you would never, ever make a Sonic 4 kind of game, even less I thought you would really call it Sonic 4. I thought only us fans thought of that name, as one thing that would never truly exist.

I thank you for making this. And thank you for following the events after Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I hope it turns out to be a great game.

Posted by Tiago J7 Monteiro on February 4th, 2010 at 5:26 am

Comment # 276

I kind of have to agree with some complaints here. Homing attack and 3D models? You should have made 2D images.
Anyway, I’m at least glad for how classic and decent it looks and sounds when compared to Sonic06.

Posted by Tiago J7 Monteiro on February 4th, 2010 at 5:30 am

Comment # 278

I don’t normally jump on the hate wagon so early, but **** it:

At the end of the countdown we get two seconds of footage and MORE ****ING COUNTDOWNS!?

New Super Mario Bros DS controlled much like the originals, and looked the part. This looks awkward and, like I feared, it looks like he’ll move more like Sonic Advance. Which I couldn’t play.

I better be getting a good couple of hours at the VERY least out of each ‘episode’. Especially considering my last buy was Symphony of the Night, 15 hours and haven’t even started Richter’s story yet..

And **** Sega, you finally managed to get me to fall for it: I got excited for a new Sonic game. ****. And I’m someone who used to own every Mega Drive game. And a Sonic jacket. AND a Sonic 2 shirt, amongst a crapload more.

Posted by Captain 90's on February 4th, 2010 at 5:30 am

Comment # 280

@Flyboy

Then why exactly do they call it SONIC 4 and comes RIGHT AFTER SONIC 3&K, huh?

If it’s meant as a direct sequel, it’s committing a LOT of chronological/canonical errors by having this design.. and a homing attack? Which wasn’t even seen in Sonic Advance?

SEGA, you’ve already come this far to support Classic Fans. Don’t ditch us now! There’s still time! Just work on everything else, but bring Sonic’s model to what he used to be before Sonic Adventure. And ditch the “Sonic For Dummies” (aka Homing) attack!

Posted by ShiHe on February 4th, 2010 at 5:36 am

Comment # 282

oh i thought i would be on a disc i would buy it. Oh well i am ok with downloadedable. HOpe you guys work on the runing look for sonic more more though. but still can’t wait.

Posted by Bert on February 4th, 2010 at 5:38 am

Comment # 284

Thank you SEGA… Sorry for those of you who stayed up all night for this.. I dropped dead asleep in my bead at midnight!

WHAT A SUPRISE THIS MORNING!! WOW!! THIS IS IT!!!!!!

Sonic 4!!! 2D!!!! THE SONIC 2 SPINNING RAIL-THING!!!! WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!!!

C’mon people, Give SEGA a break…. Yeah I don’t like the eyes much either and the look of Sonic 2000…. but they can’t ignore what has become of Sonic either… this game is NOT just for RETRO fans. Like Mario Wii… I don’T like Mario in Polygons, lacks the cuteness of pixels, but It’s STILL good ol’ Mario!

And SOnic’s gonna run, don’T worry! SEGA knows what they are doing!

THANK YOU!!!

Posted by Philippe on February 4th, 2010 at 5:42 am

Comment # 286

it brings tears to my eyes!!! all together now SEGAAAA!

Posted by sonichedgehog45 on February 4th, 2010 at 5:49 am

Comment # 288

im wondering what that other platform is, on the official website it says psn, xbl, wiiware and…???

maybe pc ? will sega distrubute this game through there play sega?, or is it for ds and psp as retail copys. if 1 episodes is as long as the old school games you can see a profit here lol. 35$ ds episodes a piece lol.

i would buy them

thank you sega now i shall just wait to see the full platform list so i dont have to go out and spend a ton on a new console in this economy.

unless it was a dreamcast 2 :O i would take a loan for that.

this is what they meant it will pertain with the old and new fans. old school look similar play sure the animation is a little slower, but i knew it was going to be new sonic thats why sega removed the old sonic statue from there offices with the new one.

Posted by mark on February 4th, 2010 at 5:51 am

Comment # 290

That is NOT his running animation! Thats the jogging animation!
See the animation of the sonic from 1991?! That was the same animation!!
Stop being such shit heads and start enjoying this instead!!

Posted by Alenius on February 4th, 2010 at 5:53 am

Comment # 292

OMG! The trailer is promising! Though, I’ve got a few things to say:
The Good:
[1] 2D-like Background
[2] The bit of the level we’ve seen looks old-stylish!
[3] The badnicks look cool!
[4] Lots of nostalgia!

To improve:
[1] The background should be a little more varied when walking looong distances: Like in GHZ in Sonic 1, where could be mountain peaks, or waterfalls, or trees, or maybe nothing as well and you could appreciate and make a better idea of the place you where was unique (woh, some more nostalgia here?:))
[2] Like is said on a previous post, we need to have “improvements” included in the game (as they were S2: Spin Dash, Super Sonic, Tails. S3/&K: Shields, LockOn, Hyper Sonic, Knuckles.
I haven’t followed the Sonic Advance series, but could be there a move borrowed from it? A new move could be cool. There’s not rush for that, but it should not look slow (more on Bad.4)

The Bad:
[1] Sonic doesn’t run. I think this could be just for now, maybe they lack some sprites.
[2] What’s the thing with all that dirt he leaves behind? It’s a bit annoying, also, it fades so slow.
[3] Physics: I know it’s just a trailer, but the physics doesn’t look like the in old games. It’s shown in acceleration, how Sonic walk-climbes the hill… I’ve got many thousand hours of playing in the old games to see that in an instant.
[4] For 1-3, the bad thing is, the gameplay looks slow: He doesn’t run, the dirt floats up in the air and vanishes slowly (again, so much dirt!), and though it doesn’t have that sense of speed when he gets to climbing the hill, he does it anyway, which leads to think he’s heavy and has too much inertia, or that he is slow….

Please, don’t consider this post a letdown! It’s just my point of view…

To sum up:
I like the stage, the way the background looked, the feel of the stage (though, I should see more).
The things I didn’t like maybe are under construction and are not definite (I really hope so!), and hopefully if corrected I believe the game will look and feel as fast and colorful as the old ones!

> PS: Contact me if you want more feedback on it!

Posted by LehonardEuler on February 4th, 2010 at 5:58 am

Comment # 294

@ShiHe I agree. I think the problem here is that most of the kiddies have no concept on what RETRO or CLASSIC means. By calling this SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4, we older fans expect it to follow the same design as the classic games. Just like how Mega Man 9 followed the classic Mega Man series. Sure the game is retro from the 2D aspect, but design wise its not. The transition from Sonic 3 & Knuckles to Sonic 4 doesnt make sense in terms of Sonic’s design. Unless Sega has some deep exposition on how Sonic’s eyes turned black to green, that would be an interesting plot cause then it would perfectly blend with the Sonic Adventure series. But if they’re using the current design to pander to the younger fans, then this entire marketing ploy was deceiving on epic levels. Sega specifically targeted this game for the older fans and I just don’t see it here. What I see is a last minute cop out in fear that the younger crowd wouldn’t understand or accept the classic design and the fear of Sega losing money if they strictly marketed to the older fans. Is it really that hard to make a simple retro style game that reflects the classic designs? See Mega Man 9 and Super Mario Wii for references and get back to me in July. Fix your mistakes Sega and I’ll retract my statements.

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 4th, 2010 at 5:59 am

Comment # 296

Good stuff…can’t wait to play it. I don’t understand the “Green Eyes” complaints but some people do have a point with the running animation. It the circle run animation is vintage, classic SONIC.

Posted by DJ Fob Fresh on February 4th, 2010 at 6:04 am

Comment # 298

Are people REALLY complaining that Sonic has green eyes? fucking really? really?

WTF happened to the gamming community…

Posted by Sharky/Ryan on February 4th, 2010 at 6:10 am

Comment # 300

I couldn’t be happier with the announcement.
-Love the fact that it’s on multiple platforms
-Thrilled for the episodic content–I don’t just want “one” classic style game, I want a whole bunch! In the GameSpot interview, Ken Balough said Episode 1 was part of a bigger story, and as far as I’m concerned, that story can take as many games as necessary to play out.
-Classic enemies a +
-I’m even cool with the homing attack. In Sonic Rush 1 & Adventure, I thought Dimps did a pretty good job with the manuver. It wasn’t “necessary” to attack the enemies with the homing attack, but it did give you the option. I’m sure it’ll be integrated well-enough into Sonic 4.
-Et al.

Well, you can’t please everyone, Sega, but I think you’re on a good track here with Sonic 4. I’m sure there’s a lot to be revealed that will continue to impress. What we saw from that trailer was just a glimpse of the game–a few seconds to whet our appetite. There’s going to be a lot to like in the coming weeks, I’m sure.

Posted by Matt R. on February 4th, 2010 at 6:12 am

Comment # 302

The eyes won’t REALLY bother me in-game (although that logo still irks me), but the way I remember Sonic, his shoes weren’t bigger than his skull. His biggest feature were his eyes, not blue dreadlocks that make up half his image.

http://i47.tinypic.com/8wkth4.jpg

There, as posted before – modern, but still classic/retro. Replace the existing Sonic with this and make him windmill, you’ve got yourself a winner.

Posted by Chris on February 4th, 2010 at 6:18 am

Comment # 304

Gnah, okay, I want the old style, but that doesn’t mean that the Game itself is bad, right? Well, the Gameplay looks like back to the roots, And Greenhill Zone will be the first stage! How nostalgic xD I can live with the newer Sonic Design, But I think, SEGA Will fool us a bit… look to the Logo… it looks a bit different like the shadowed Logo… Now we have 2 Options:

1. Sega will NOT show us the true Design of Sonic, before the game is still out. maybe they will us surprise with it

2. SEGA would Originally use the old design, but, for what reason, they changed there mind… well, let’s see Maybe this is a Testmodel and the real model is still under construction.

Posted by Nero Angelo on February 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am

Comment # 306

ZOMG!!! THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE!!!!!

Posted by PrincessNinjato on February 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am

Comment # 308

Wow. SEGA FAIL.

First of all why didnt they take a nod from Capcom and make HD sprites or use sprites from the genesis era?

Second, why did they eliminate the running animation that actually made it seem as if you were moving fast, and instead replaced it with a jog?

Third, homing attack kills the balance of the game.

I’m actually REALLY let down. I was looking forward to this. The whole viral marketing had me believe that this would resemble Sonics golden age, not post 94 sonic games.

But no. You failed so bad.

I’ll NEVER understand Sega. But it makes sense that they’d make such pitiful marketing decisions.

Do they realize fans would have been satisfied with simply a game that brought in all the sprites from Sonic 3, just with new zones?

Posted by Dante on February 4th, 2010 at 6:26 am

Comment # 310

I want a solid copy of the game not a download, and I wish his legs would turn into a red and blue blur like they used to. I don’t want to see Sonic taking a casual jaunt through Green Hill Zone.

Posted by The Shield on February 4th, 2010 at 6:29 am

Comment # 312

No PC version? REALLY?! eff you, sega. I’ve been waiting for this game for 15 years and now I can’t play it. >:(

Posted by acid on February 4th, 2010 at 6:31 am

Comment # 314

I think it definitely looks like a move in the right direction. As much as I feel nostalgic for the old Sonic design, I don’t think the new one is bad at all. As long as he doesn’t talk! Or, at least have an option to turn the talking off? The running animation does look a little sluggish at the moment, based on the 2-3 seconds of gameplay we’ve seen up there, but with a game in development I’m guessing it could change pretty radically by the time we get our hands on it. I think this looks like it has the potential to be great though, really looking forward to it.

I was expecting to be disappointed, but I’m actually pretty encouraged. Yeah!

Oh, also, Masato Nakamura did all the best Sonic music – please bring him back no matter how much it costs! I’ll happily pay an extra couple of quid for a game with memorable tunes, as a musician that was half the appeal of the original two Sonic games (I wasn’t so keen on Sonic 3/Sonic & Knuckles – didn’t have the same charm somehow.)

What a long comment…

Posted by Andy on February 4th, 2010 at 6:32 am

Comment # 316

Wonderful!! Excellent!!! Extrodinary!!!! I’m freaking out!

Posted by Crystal on February 4th, 2010 at 6:37 am

Comment # 318

aW MAN I couldn’t catch this at 12:00 cuz I was dead in sleep, but I was so excited I had a dream about the new game though it included Disney.I woke up like WTF?? Then got to my computer

Posted by Whitney on February 4th, 2010 at 6:41 am

Comment # 320

ill post my feedback since i think SEGA will actually listen now.

The running animation is bad. make his feet blur in a circle like before, and have him put his hands behind him like in the 3D games. it worked for him.
If we are going to have the homing attack, make it like it was in the 3D games, not sonic rush. (chainable and stays in a ball after hitting)

and for the record, yes sonic probably doesn’t belong in 3D. But 2.5D was amazing. i REALLY hope that we get another game in 2.5D with the hedgehog engine WITHOUT WEREHOG OR GIMMICKS

Posted by McSquid on February 4th, 2010 at 6:52 am

Comment # 322

Next plataform is Iphone? NOOO PLEASEEEE

Posted by Daniel Rodrigues on February 4th, 2010 at 6:55 am

Comment # 324

Ok I am putting my opinion across now…
A part of me is in tears that you’ve taken Sonic back to his roots with the zones, Badniks, Möbius strips, Robotnik in his ego-matic etc etc.

But the one thing that’s sort of destroying my soul right now is why you’ve got Sonic’s sprite so ‘new skool’? I hate Sonic’s new design; I think I speak for all the old skool fans who grew up with classic Sonic, so to see his new design in this game is wrong. Not to mention you’ve got Robotniks new design aswell!

I could possibly let that go but then there’s the issue of how badly Sonic’s sprite is animated! Don’t get me wrong, it looks smooth and attractive, but he looks more like he’s going for a brisk jog than a real run! Where are the circular running animations I grew up with?

I don’t know what to think to be honest… a part of me wants to see this game released and fulfil a hole that’s been prevalent in the Sonc Fandom for so many years now… but with the current Sonic sprite I am not sure.

Posted by Spewella on February 4th, 2010 at 6:57 am

Comment # 326

Sonic the Hegehog 4, epic! But Sega, now people are going to expect the game to be flawless. Not even Halo or sonic the original sonic the hedgehog was flawless. For people to be crying over the modern sonic taking the place of the original sonic is just plan picky. At least the people talking about the homing attack and running animation have a reason. So what if they use the mordern day sonic, its not the 1900′s, its 2010!
I would also like to see the running animation change. For a sonic game, sonic just looks like he is moving way to slow.
Homing Attack, doesn’t even matter. Some people like it, some don’t. Some don’t care, like me. You don’t have to use it. It will probably be set aside on a whole different button like in sonic unleashed. This would mean that you would probably be able to run through the game without even touching it. Now I know what I just said may bring some other comments along with it but I don’t care. I just want to play another FUN sonic game.

Posted by strickerx5 on February 4th, 2010 at 6:58 am

Comment # 328

here is a wallpaper some people were asking for

http://hellmetal789.deviantart.com/art/sonic-4-wallpaper-152869826

Posted by mark on February 4th, 2010 at 7:06 am

Comment # 330

Actually now that I think about it, this reminds of New Super Mario Bros.

I don’t believe it had a lot of complaints thrown at it…

Posted by Topmonhit on February 4th, 2010 at 7:09 am

Comment # 332

Graphics looks great, everything sounds great… but that character model and running animation are CRAP. His legs are hardly moving and it just looks awkward–not cool. It looks like they just plopped in the Unleashed model and called it a day. Ugly as anything with those gigantic drooping spines. Huge mistake.

I want classic Sonic back :’(

Posted by Hedgemahoog on February 4th, 2010 at 7:23 am

Comment # 334

WOOOOOWWW!!!!

I’m so glad you Sega don’t make an Megaman 9, but an new game like New Super Mario!!

Times change, wee don’t need old sprites, we need just the good and old sonic!

Posted by AL on February 4th, 2010 at 7:26 am

Comment # 336

Thanks, Sega. Thanks for listening US!
PRAY TO SONIC! GAME OF THE YEAR 2010!

Release it physically, Sega! I want to buy two! One for use and one for show to my children and say “THIS rocks, nothing more!”

Posted by Luciano on February 4th, 2010 at 7:35 am

Comment # 338

Papayaman FTW
You only knows to complain and not to appreciate the good work.
You think you know everything in the universe and you states that if Sonic have green eyes and have homing attack the game will suck.
So inmature, rly.

Posted by Kirs on February 4th, 2010 at 7:38 am

Comment # 340

I remember everybody pissing their pants with glee when the homing attack was included in Sonic 1 Megamix. Even if it’s kind of a dumb way to kill enemies, the real benefit is being able to use it to air-dash forward and hit the ground running at presumably top speed.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 7:40 am

Comment # 342

Day one purchase… DAY ONE…

Posted by swkninja on February 4th, 2010 at 7:43 am

Comment # 344

Using the new Sonic model doesn’t make it a bad game, but it does take away from the charm. It’d be like playing a Mario game where you could only play as Luigi wearing Mario’s clothes. Would still play the same but it would feel off.

Posted by blargh on February 4th, 2010 at 7:50 am

Comment # 346

*explodes from epicness*

Posted by SMT Xero on February 4th, 2010 at 7:53 am

Comment # 348

@Blargh

…no its like playing new super mario bros wii. same mario gameplay, new model. you comparisons suck.

Posted by SMT Xero on February 4th, 2010 at 7:54 am

Comment # 350

Shut up about the green eye thing! Like you’re even going to see them clearly in gameplay ¬¬ I’m an old school Sonic fan. I grew up with the old games and there are things about the new games I don’t really like but I still play them coz they’re better than some of the other crap out at the moment and they are still fun in their own way.
I wanted to see another old school style game but I wanted to see it for the game play and the level layouts. Not for the way Sonic looks or what moves he uses. If SEGA made this game almost exactly like the originals you guys would be bitching that they just copied old game data and threw it into a new game/story line.
SEGA are trying hard to please everyone and I think they’re doing a great job. Shut up about the speed, its only a teaser video. They’ll probably work out the kinks before its released.
In my opinion this is a really good mix of old and new. I’#d like to see any of you do a better job. You seem to have the time on your hands with all the crap you’re coming out with. I’m all for people having their own opinions but this is just stupid. It makes me ashamed to be part of the Sonic fandom when I see crap like this. How can you judge this seriously on a 10sec game clip?!

Posted by Kitty on February 4th, 2010 at 7:56 am

Comment # 352

@Shihe You got that right. I grew up with the series too, but it’s just -me- who prefers the new Sonic model for some reason :/

Posted by BoltClock on February 4th, 2010 at 8:01 am

Comment # 354

This isn’t anything even remotely kind of like Sonic Rush, and if you even THINK you think so, you’re fucking stone blind.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 8:05 am

Comment # 356

you have to put the animal left the robots after being defeated also the capsule at the end of each stage boss

also put the sonic animation at full speed
but gave a great impression bid for more platforms the game in the future

Posted by milesprower on February 4th, 2010 at 8:08 am

Comment # 358

I really like how everythings looking at the moment and will be buying the game.
But I will be over the moon if you make sonic look old school and get rid of the homing attack. Then it would feel like a true 2D sonic game, which is what many people icluding myself want.

On a side note it would be nice if it was released on PC aswell via steam

Posted by Genesis on February 4th, 2010 at 8:12 am

Comment # 360

DOWNLOAD??? G.T.F.O.H.

Posted by justin (Free P) on February 4th, 2010 at 8:16 am

Comment # 362

Totally agreeing with ChaoticFox XD

Posted by Kitty on February 4th, 2010 at 8:18 am

Comment # 364

I just think we should hold off on the hate til we have a little more to go on. Complaining about the art style, or the fact that the game doesn’t feature 2D sprites (hey, I was crossing my fingers for them too), is a tad unrealistic and stubborn.

I’m not a fan of the homing attack either, but just because a new-gen gameplay element made it’s way into the classic series revival isn’t enough for me to start bashing Sega/Sonic Team and spouting shit like “we’re all doomed, you blew your chance”.

You have to GIVE them a chance before you tell them they’ve blown it. And merely wishing to the nostalgia Gods that we’d see a 16-bit Sonic game in the year 2010 does not constitute giving anyone a chance.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 8:21 am

Comment # 366

OOMG SONIC 4 NOW I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT IT!!!! i knew it was gonna be a 2d game like they did with new super mario bros wii! I CANT WAIT

Posted by fadel on February 4th, 2010 at 8:22 am

Comment # 368

@Chaotix

Quit with the F word, will you, doesn’t make you HALF as manly as you think.

What I’m saying is, I don’t want SEGA to fall off the boat to start catering to the NEW fans midway by adding the newschool stupid gimmicks.

Now, I’m pretty excited about this game to give two rats about your wishes of bashing my skull in with a Megadrive. I highly doubt you’ve even seen one, I just find that hilarious.

How about you go back to your werehogs and weapon wielders instead, huh?

Posted by Shihe on February 4th, 2010 at 8:24 am

Comment # 370

LOL, oldschool fans.
I’ve been playing Sonic since what, 1993? I guess the people who started back in 1991 still have seniority over me, therefore my opinion doesn’t matter.
The love I have for Sonic stems from the challenge the game sets before me, the challenge to get through a level as efficiently as possible, and then nab one or two gems in a separate stage. Picking up shields to get special powers and keep from losing my rings. Going as fast as I freakin can. All that is just plain FUN to me, and I don’t care how many times I do it, since as I get better at it, it becomes even more fun.
Over the course of the game I’m challenged to think like Sonic. Making split-second decisions, figuring out puzzles, learning the physics of the way I move so that I can plan exactly where I’m headed. And in the end he rewards me with a smile and a pose, and that’s enough for me.
THIS is what makes a good Sonic game to me. THIS is the heart of the game, IMHO.
Not whether or not Sonic has green eyes in the promo art.
I sometimes wonder if the people who rant and rave about how SEGA isn’t giving them what they want even KNOW what they want to begin with.
Or if they even really know what matters.

Posted by Gryphon on February 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am

Comment # 372

Aghh I still can’t believe it’s actually coming to the Wii!

This just made my week! (Until we get new news, heheh).

I will be forever grateful for this, SEGA! Now… Give us news! (In the meantime I’ll just go back to watch the 2nd teaser several more times).

Posted by Shihe on February 4th, 2010 at 8:29 am

Comment # 374

im sorry, but this looks totally rubbish. The fact it is what looks like 2.5D makes my blood boil. Really, this should have been high definition 2d SPRITES, but the fact its a 3D model…

tsk tsk.. just looks looks like a suped up version of sonic advanced…

Posted by khobis on February 4th, 2010 at 8:34 am

Comment # 376

Where is the PC version? This game deserves to be on Steam. The digital format, including the episodes idea, would be amazing on the platform.

Posted by Andy on February 4th, 2010 at 8:38 am

Comment # 378

People that grew up with Sonic 1 and genesis games thinks their opinion counts more that the other ones and are better.
They think “old-school sonic fans” is a superior kind of persons.
LOL
Well, I’, 20 years old and I also grew up with genesis games. And i love them.
But I’m not stuck in the past century.
Time goes on people. Welcome to the reality.

If you want a game that only have a button to jump and 2 buttons to go left and right, go play Mario!!!!

Sonic is not that simple and not as retarded as Mario. So forget the Sonic 3 classic sonic. it’s death. Assume it and stop bitching

Posted by Kirs on February 4th, 2010 at 8:40 am

Comment # 380

Sega you won me back….i’m so getting this game.

Posted by Gamer18 on February 4th, 2010 at 8:48 am

Comment # 382

I’m also kind of baffled why so many people are upset about it being downloadable. The way I see it, that just means it’s less expensive. You can’t really complain about lack of content, especially if you were expecting a Genesis-style game, considering the rom files for each of those are less than a single megabyte, COMBINED.

It’s the episodic format that worries me, in terms of length. Part of me is grateful that this means there will likely be future installments (the more the better), but another part of me is worried that said installments will be unnecessarily short, simply to extend the series.

I guess we’ll find out.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 8:55 am

Comment # 384

@ChaotixFox

Alright, then I apologize if I took it as a personal attack.

I admit I was a bit thrown off at first.. but heck, those are only trivial details compared to the glory of having… *inhales* SONIC 4!!!! I still can’t get over it.

I have to agree with your point, some fans are just right down dumb in their responses.. such as “F. you SEGA, you ruined my life”.. I mean sheesh…

But not all of us oldschoolers are like that. It’s a shame the fandom got this divided. And I hope this game FINALLY serves as the bridge between old Sonic fans and new.

I’m a very big fan myself, I have only 4 games left to play to finally say I’ve beaten EVERY SINGLE Sonic game ever released (spinoffs included). But I admit the ones I return to are the 2D ones. (Make no mistake, 2D involves Advance, and Rush as well, and I love them as much as the Genesis ones) Old or new, I don’t mind, the fact that this game is in 2D already guaranteed my purchase.

Posted by Shihe on February 4th, 2010 at 8:57 am

Comment # 386

HOLA…. UNA PREGUNATA VA A VENIR PARA SEGA O PARA PLAY.. PORQUE YO LO QUIERO PARA MI SEGA GENESIS Y SI PUEDE SER PARA MI EMUADOR SE SEGA… GRACIAS

Posted by FEDERICO on February 4th, 2010 at 8:59 am

Comment # 388

I love this, the Sega and Sonic Team production teams have really done a great job this time!

And don’t let the complainers on here detract you Sega, most of us are super excited for this!! they are just a minority.

I love the idea too of producing 2D throwback games like this and still making console sonics for the newer generations. It is like the best of both worlds!!!

Only a minor letdown, but don’t get me wrong I’m still super pumped, is that I thought the graphics might have looked more “real” or HD like. For example I thought it’d look more detailed like this:
http://www.gamerdna.com/uimage/t9Up35l/full/green_hill_zone_by_orioto-jpg-2.jpg

But I must confess that maybe the 2D sonic would lose its “classic” appeal if everything in the levels started to look too HD or too realistic. Just an observation of mine.

But great job Sega keep up the good work and the fact that you showed this already makes me thrilled that there will be an Episode 2!! Hopefully an Episode 3 as well

Posted by Sonicfan82 on February 4th, 2010 at 9:02 am

Comment # 390

O QUE BUENO… VA A VENIR PARA SEGA GENESIS Y TAMBIEN ARA SEGA ROM.. GRACIAS

Posted by FEDERICO on February 4th, 2010 at 9:02 am

Comment # 392

@ Shihe

Aw, now see? Isn’t this more fun? <3

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 9:03 am

Comment # 394

The ??? is iPhone.

Posted by Flyboy Fox on February 4th, 2010 at 9:05 am

Comment # 396

WOW! It’s going to be AWESOME!

There seems to be an awful lot of bedwetting crybabies angry that what Sega have created doesn’t match the picture they’d conjured up in their heads. Criticism is OK, but throwing a tantrum is just pathetic. Personally, I was hoping for a spritey sonic, but how Sonic LOOKS or even the way he’s animated is in NO WAY a deal breaker.

The only thing that has got me even SLIGHTLY worried is the homing attack, but it’s not like it will be mandatory. As long as you can pull off the same stuff without using it, I’m happy.

Thank you Sega, I’ve waited 16 years for this!

Posted by Porl on February 4th, 2010 at 9:07 am

Comment # 398

Sega, CHANGE THE RUNNING ANIMATION!!! It’s choppy and awkward!

If you f*** up this Sonic you will have killed the series once and for all. No Sonic fan will ever put faith in any more Sonic games… EVER!

Posted by Pedro on February 4th, 2010 at 9:08 am

Comment # 400

You know the best part of all this?

It’s 2D Sonic on a CONSOLE!

Finally reviewers have NO REASON to overlook this title, as they did with the gems that was the Sonic Advance trilogy in the GBA! The reason I was most worried about the eyes and animation is because I’m sure reviewers will use that to bring the game down. >=( They’re always particularly harsh with Sonic games… even the last 2D ones.

Posted by Shihe on February 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am

Comment # 402

Z-Man FTW too.

Posted by Kirs on February 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am

Comment # 404

YES!! YAY! I’m so excited to hear this news I got up and logged on straightaway to check!

And for all you people whinging about Sonic’s look, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. This is not the 90′s! Sonic looks better this way anyway and besides it doesn’t even matter, what matters is the gameplay! You fans will find anything to moan about I swear.

Anyway Sega, this looks fantastic can’t wait!

Posted by Topaz on February 4th, 2010 at 9:11 am

Comment # 406

To make a HD 2D game the only way is using 3D graphics setting the perspective to only use x, y axis.The will be perfect I would buy a super pc spec but this game did I decide to buy a xbox 360 or other…

Posted by Gil Braz on February 4th, 2010 at 9:13 am

Comment # 408

Looks aweasome, though I would of preferred it to have complete 2d graphics like in Wario Land: Shake it!. The running animation looks kind of bad as well. Though I prefer the old school sonic look instead of the new school, he still doesn’t look that bad. I think I’m gonna have something to play over the summer… hopefully it isn’t really short since it’s downloadable. D:

Posted by William on February 4th, 2010 at 9:23 am

Comment # 410

Whats wrong with homing attack?! This move was included in Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, and even in Sonic Advance 2!
And the previous games not bad at all! So stop talking bad about homing attack because I relly love that’s move!

Posted by MH MD on February 4th, 2010 at 9:26 am

Comment # 412

If you go to the official website, it says that it will be on the 3 platforms and a mystery “???” platform. This could either be pc or sega’s new console/arcade hardware (ringedge). Although having the ??? as pc is not really exciting enough to have it as ???.

-hope they do release a pc version though, coz i aint got any other console.

Posted by Nikesh on February 4th, 2010 at 9:27 am

Comment # 414

Yes! So excited about this! Though, I wish it was DLC but instead an actual hard-copy sold in stores. But, regardless, I will be purchasing this title!

Posted by blury17 on February 4th, 2010 at 9:33 am

Comment # 416

@willis88

Why would SEGA have to listen to me when I’m not demanding anything of them. XD

Posted by Gryphon on February 4th, 2010 at 9:34 am

Comment # 418

Note to people having a nerdgasm thinking there will be a new SEGA console:
Not happening. A couple controller patents does not a new console make.
My guess is those are for the PS3 for retro SEGA games on PSN or the mysterious Anniversary project. For example, the Saturn-like pad might be for Sonic Jam or maybe a “Sonic Team Collection” disc with Burning Rangers and the NiGHTS games.

Posted by nobody on February 4th, 2010 at 9:39 am

Comment # 420

EPIC WIN by SEGA \o/

People let’s calm down, this is a conceptual trailer meant to show the general look and feel of the game AND THERE IS NO GAMEPLAY IN IT, so let’s calm the nerves down a bit and stop complaining about changes, THIS IS NOT A GAME TARGETING ONLY OLD SCHOOL FANS, this is simply a new game with the mechanics we’ve always wanted
I’m 25 Years old, always loved the classic Genesis Sonic Games and i’am REAAAALLLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE,

WAY TO GO SEGA \o/

Posted by Frapsxiv on February 4th, 2010 at 9:41 am

Comment # 422

So far it looks good and I will get it. (Yes I am a old school fan of sonic) I just dont understand how people get so worked up over 3 seconds of gameplay when it was probably just a demo or early testing for the game. Eitherway welcome back Sonic I have missed you!!

Posted by Sonic4life on February 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am

Comment # 424

Comment 36 typo it should be: Sega, do what you want with this game and keep 2.5D Sonic I like it and no matter how it turns out I’m Getting this for Wii-ware. you can even add the
Were-Hog and i’ll still get it. Sonic FTW!

Posted by Kevin on February 4th, 2010 at 9:45 am

Comment # 426

Funny… I posted something and didn’t come through.

I was saying it’d be really epic if the new Special Stages were something akin to Sonic CD’s special stages (imagine with new-gen hardware) instead of Sonic 2′s special stages which have been redone to death.

And hopefully… >_> hopefully, oldschool fans and newschool fans can finally start getting along better after this game. Some of us actually do (my little cousin and I for example).

I’m going to have to agree to just THAT little graphical nitpick, though. A blur of the red shoes is the only thing I ask for. It’s not a big issue, but they did it in Brawl, so surely it’s nothing too complicated, right? ^^; (besides, it’s always made Sonic look cooler)

Posted by Shihe on February 4th, 2010 at 9:45 am

Comment # 428

By the way people from sega,would you please release some WALLPAPERS with the game logo? it would be awesome to have a high res wallpaper on my desktop backgroud while i wait for the game to be released \o/

WALLPAPERS PLEEEEASE

Posted by Frapsxiv on February 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am

Comment # 430

This looks lovely! :3

My only criticism is that I personally would prefer a physical disc, with boxart and manual! Call me oldschool, but yeah – I’m a child of the ’80s!

Posted by MamboCat on February 4th, 2010 at 9:51 am

Comment # 432

Blurred running sounds potentially nice to me

Posted by Drainage64 on February 4th, 2010 at 9:53 am

Comment # 434

Looking great. Videogamers are annoying. Nothing but whiney bitches.

Posted by James on February 4th, 2010 at 9:56 am

Comment # 436

Also… I am certainly NOT afraid to admit this in front of EVERYBODY on this blog…

When I saw the trailer, at long LAST Sonic brought actual tears to my eyes… TEARS MAN!!! I haven’t cried like I did about that trailer in AGES and yes, I AM a GUY. An 18 year old guy that cried his eyes out over the game we have all waited 16 years for…

Thank you SEGA… Thank you. I can now cry and be proud of doing so.

Screw america… GOD BLESS SEGA!!!!!!

Posted by Chris K. on February 4th, 2010 at 9:58 am

Comment # 438

And if you ask me… EVERY person that complains about Sonic’s eyes and/or body is
clearly a lover of bestiality. NOBODY pays that much attention to an animal unless
they have some weird animal character fetish… Get over his eye’s and legs man. Dang. -_-

Posted by Chris K. on February 4th, 2010 at 10:02 am

Comment # 440

@ #335

It’s the mystery character right next to Sonic on the official Sonic 4 website dude! ^^

Posted by Chris K. on February 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am

Comment # 442

@ #337

Don’t say that man! I want the most AWESOME cut scenes EVER to be in this game!!! Don’t you remember in Sonic Unleashed how they had those unlockable Sonic and Chip cut scenes where they just acted around and didn’t talk? I want cut scenes like THAT to be used in this game! Awesome scenes, just no actual dialogue. However, I won’t mind subtitles.

Think about it, the non dialogue, subtitle formula worked for Banjo-Kazooie! The same formula can work for Sonic!

Posted by Chris K. on February 4th, 2010 at 10:06 am

Comment # 444

COME ON people, let’s show some support!

http://imgur.com/zppIt.png

(Forgive my crappy artwork)

Posted by Porl on February 4th, 2010 at 10:06 am

Comment # 446

Change the run animation please comeback to old or build a new mixed sonic model and running, jump, walk animations similar to sonic 2 or 3 thanks.

Posted by Arcan0ne on February 4th, 2010 at 10:08 am

Comment # 448

@ChaotixFox: Hell yeah! Or a digital booklet! And no gods burrowed in the earth. D=
The story should unfold from stage to stage transitions (like in S3&K) that’d be amazing.

@Chris K.: I must really be blind, man. X_x Can’t see any mystery character, though I DID notice those question-marked locks look a LOT like the ? blocks from Mario! LOL just a funny coincidence I guess, hahaha

Nostalgia Critic: …OR IS IT!!? O_O

Posted by Shihe on February 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am

Comment # 450

All right, Sega, let’s you and me chat. I don’t know who reads these things, but whoever does, I hope it gets to somebody important.

I’m not going to complain about the design, you’ve already heard enough of that. I’m a little disappointed, but I’ll live, I suppose. I’d REALLY like it if you fixed the running, at least. Of course, I’ve been thinking this is just a mock-up animation, anyway, so maybe the real game will look completely different.

The homing attack… eh. Just please try not to overuse it, and please be careful not to put in bottomless pits. MAYBE a couple until you get to the… 4th zone, we’ll say, than a little more. Challenge is good, but being afraid to move too fast because of the gaping pit that stretches across the level isn’t. Don’t forget those alternate paths!

Anyway, I don’t really know how to feel yet. I want to believe, you know? I’ll probably buy this no matter what when it comes out, I just don’t want to feel like I wasted my money. As long as it’s not a trainwreck like ’06 or a hold-right speedfest like Rush/Advance 2&3, I guess I’ll be happy.

Keep an ear on your fans, by the way. All of them, even the more… vocal ones.
Good luck, hope somebody gets this.

TLDR: Just make a fun game that plays like the Genesis games. And fix the run animation.

Posted by Bobinator on February 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am

Comment # 452

Well, that coulda turned out worse. I guess this may actually well serve to fill the gap between S3&K and Sonic Adventure, in some regards.

Of course, every single one of those fans that hate everything new was already heard complaining by the end of the trailer, but I personally am glad to see Eggman and Sonic in their current designs, hence my comment about bridging the gap.

To everyone complaining about homing attack, calm the heck down. It’s not automatically bad just ‘cuz it’s in, they might very well be able to implement it in a sensible fashion in 2D, who knows?

Posted by Patrick S. on February 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am

Comment # 454

LETS JUST HOPE THIS COMES WITH THE NEW SEGA SYSTEM “SEGA ZONE” OR ETHER THE SEGA RINGEDGE

Posted by yoyo on February 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am

Comment # 456

@339
Maybe a select option of classic sonic or “upgraded” sonic.
Also, some stuff could be done this way, so that fans could decide how to play the game… (sorry, I’m just obsessed with the Home Attack )
Seriously: Could be a “classic mode” and a “All New like-you-never-imagined-2010 Sonic”

Posted by LehonardEuler on February 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am

Comment # 458

Please fix the animation of Sonic’s legs. It was the only problem I saw with the trailer and many people have already mentioned it. As someone who grew up playing a Sega Genesis, my request was purely formal. I DEMAND you fix his legs…. Please?

Posted by Hobok on February 4th, 2010 at 10:20 am

Comment # 460

Cheers sega! This is not what I was expecting to see ( really HD classic style with hand drawn sprites and backgrounds, braid style), But this looks really good so far! You only need fixing that running animation, and maybe adding a few more scroll layers in the background. And this will be perfect!

Good job sega! and THANKS for adding Homing attack! From what I played in fan games and hack roms like Sonic Megamix, it fits perfectly the classic 2D gameplay, I love it. I love this is incluided here too!

Posted by Ash the dragon on February 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am

Comment # 462

I gotta say that I’m really excited for this game. As a few others have pointed out, the running animation does look a bit off, but, unlike them, that doesn’t matter too much to me.

As for the homing attack, I am a bit worried about that: In this fan hack of the first Sonic game known as Sonic Megamix, the homing attack had this nasty habit of being counterproductive, especially in even numbered zones, which were less speed based and had many more hazards. This hack had two other characters, one of whom played exactly like Sonic in the old games, save some cool new abilities. Anyway, my point is the homing attack affected me in a negative enough way in that hack that I refused to use Sonic altogether in favor of the character who played like he used to. I hope that Sonic 4 can implement it in a way that’ll make me love it or, at the very least, not hate it. From the days of the Genesis and Advance games, I’ve developed a habit of using Sonic’s Insta-Shield when near enemies, so if the homing attack turns out to be bad, I fear that it may mess me up.

As for everything else, people, please shut up. Why does it even matter if the graphics have been improved and that Sonic’s newer appearance is being used? I didn’t hear anybody acting that way when the two New Super Mario Bros. games came out. Yes, we were promised a retro Sonic game and that’s exactly what we’re getting. The graphics may not be retro (and what little we’ve seen so far appears to be nice), but the gameplay is and that’s what matters most. Yes, graphics do matter, but only to an extent. You don’t like that they aren’t using 2D spites? Deal with it.

I do have to admit that I am a bit worried about the game being released in episodes, though I’m not gonna whine about it like a lot of these other guys. As long as we’re getting at least as many two-act zones as we did in Sonic 3 (which was 6, by the way) per episode and/or the stages are longer, I’ll be satisfied. Also, as long as stages aren’t shortened as a result, I think it’d be cool to see a return of the third act. Whether they’re in the game in the same way as the first (Eggman at the end of the act) or Sonic Advance 3 (Eggman has his own act), I care not.

Posted by Gamer-e on February 4th, 2010 at 10:24 am

Comment # 464

This is really huge news! Rejoice! I believe the game will focus on Sonic and take place after the storyline of Sonic And Knuckles and will be available on PSN Network, Xbox Live, and Wii Ware. Fantastic!

Posted by aion database on February 4th, 2010 at 10:24 am

Comment # 466

PSST – the mystery character is actually Sonic, who is confirmed to be the only playable character; It’s just an alternate model (classic sonic!). Thus all the oldschool whiners will be pacified and then the playerbase will whine about how it wasn’t Robotnik.

Posted by poop on February 4th, 2010 at 10:29 am

Comment # 468

Hey. I just want to thank you guys for everything you’ve been doing! I’m an old school Sonic fan and a 2D platformer was everything I have ever wanted to experience in this generation of gaming! Just saw the video with the gameplay and I’ve missed one little thing from the classic Genesis/Mega Drive era… That “spinning” effect on his legs, from when Sonic is at full speed! Again, thank you guys, for the effort! I really appreciate it!

Posted by Capiroto on February 4th, 2010 at 10:31 am

Comment # 470

Although I’m happy that it actually turned out to be Sonic 4, but I have to give you my complaints so far, because I hope that you will read, understand and then take care of the things

1.) Homing Attack
- I don’t have a problem with the HA itself. Sonic always learned something new in the trilogy (spindash, insta shield [btw please bring the insta shield into Sonic 4!]) so it’s just natural that he learns something new in the fourth installment. BUT there is one VERY important thing about the homing attack. It MUSTN’T be the base for the level and boss design. Deadly pits wich can only be passed by a couple of homing attacks doesn’t belong in this kind of game because they absoluteley ruin it! Bosses get very easy with the homing attack if they aren’t adjusted to it. But if they are adjustes the aren’t classic and probably will become annoying with stupid attack patterns and what not (btw, please simple 8 hits and no energy bar!). Think about this! Think about the spindash. It was awesome but it was never required in the games. Also, the homing attack was invented because it was hard to jump on the head of an enemay in 3D but we have 2D here so it’s not a problem. In 2D all you have to do is give us good control over Sonic, thats all. I certanly hope that the homing attack wasn’t brought into the game to compensate bad controlls

2.) Running Animation
- While only about 3 seconds of actual game play footage were given, it’s not hard to say that Sonics running animation is just wrong. Sonics legs should fly and spin around like a tornado but they aren’t. It’s just like in Sonic Rush and it look out of place and too slow. If the legs would at least move faster at the same speed, it would feel faster and more like it!
Well you actually used the Sonic 2 BETA running animation in the trailer where the legs really twist! So spin them like crazy in Sonic 4 aswell!

3.) The Dust
- The trail of dust that Sonic drags behing himself all the time is also odd and totaly overdone. While it is a pretty nice effect, it should only happen when Sonic stops oder spindashes. Not every single footstep should create a big cloud of dust. It would be much better if those clouds would at least become much smaller, althought the are absolutely not nessecary for Sonics plain running. Look at all the other 2D games, Sonic just doesn’t do that!

4.) The HUD
- Okay, this is just a very minor thing and also a very easy thing for you to change.
The HUD looks okay but it’s way to far away from the borders of the screen. PLEASE just push them further to the edges so they don’t block so much of the screen. It actually makes you feel as if it narrow the screen down and tightens everything up!

5.) A “classic” classic Sonic
- Now this is only a little wish that I have, as I don’t have real problems with the modern age green-eyed Sonic, even in this game.
However, it would be really nice to add “Classic Sonic” as a second character, say an alternative version of Sonic with everything in classic shape. From the belly, to the legs, to the eyes.
Make him an unlockable or even downloadable bonus for all those classic lovers. And while your at it, give Eggman his classic design for this package / bonus aswell!

After all, this game is supposed to be a REAL classic styled Sonic game. I don’t flame everything new that you put in but (some of) these points are very important to actually maintain the feel and spirit of the classic games. Ken said it on Gamespot, that our reaction will create and form the perfect classic sonic game over time, at least with Episode II. There is still enough time for you guys left to get these changes done before the first part of the game gets released so PLEASE PLEASE do so and take care of these things to make THE PERFECT SONIC GAME!

Thanks for reading this! I hope that this is read by / given to the ones who actually work on Sonic 4. Please, let this game be for the fans!

Posted by a fan since 1991 on February 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am

Comment # 472

darn forgot to say something in my last post… anyway…

i hope they end up doing a repeat of the old games. like.. having episode 2 bring in tails, episode 3 bring in knuckles, etc…. that’d rock

Posted by superespeo on February 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am

Comment # 474

Nice theory Nikesh!

Posted by Kirs on February 4th, 2010 at 11:06 am

Comment # 476

thanks Kirs but I think that it’s very very likely that my theory is a fact.

Posted by Nikesh on February 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am

Comment # 478

I am a bit disappointed by this trailer, It’s not totally 2D, it’s pre-rendered 3D graphics with more 3D sprites, I hoped for “anime” sprite, the animation of sonic doesn’t looks right too.
I have already a bad feeling, I hope I’m wrong and the game will be good….

Posted by geo34 on February 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am

Comment # 480

I think we as fans should be very glad. We are getting almost everything we asked for. It appears to play like the old Sonic games and the levels designs are very retro thus far. I am sure there is cool stuff in the game in store but it cannot be grasped from a couple of seconds of gameplay… We should not judge until the game comes out.

I would have like to see the chubbier Sonic from Sonic 2 but it does not really matter, they are staying with the Sonic Adventure Sonic. This is a useless argument like the Zelda fans had when Wind Waker came out with cartoony graphics. Based on the early screens fans were writing the game off but then Famitsu gave it a 40/40 and most the useless chatter ceased. What I’m saying is that we need to wait to see and hear more. It is too early to determine HOW GOOD this game will be (at the very least it will be good).

Posted by Sonic the werehog on February 4th, 2010 at 11:18 am

Comment # 482

Is it possible for this game to actually use the classic sound effects from the Genesis/Mega Drive days instead of using any of the “new sounds” from the recent games? Also why not include the animals (the squirrels, the walruses, the flickies, etc.) that pop out of the Badniks after Sonic destroys them?

From the videos I’ve seen, New Super Mario Bros. Wii has many sound effects from their first games. So to me, there is no reason Sonic should not have the classic sounds in this game. I would love to hear the classic jumping sound again, along with the classic skidding sound (when Sonic tries to stop). Sega, you did say this game is meant for the old school fans so why not give the old schoolers what they want? How hard could it be?

Posted by Derek on February 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am

Comment # 484

huh I completely forgot about Robotnik (eggman). I guess he’s the scond character then

Posted by Nikesh on February 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am

Comment # 486

Some info on the update dates on the Sonic 4 site:
Feb 09 – Characters (Retro Sonic revealed?)
Feb 11 – Concept Art
Feb 18 – Multimedia
Feb 24 – Game info

Posted by LehonardEuler on February 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am

Comment # 488

*NOTE ABOUT THE RUNNING ANIMATION*

As the Sonic sprite accellerates to running speed, it goes through a series of animation cycles. There’s the slow walk, jog, slow run, wheel-like run, and then a faster wheel-like run (at least in Sonic 3). The longer you hold down on the D-pad, the faster he goes through these cycles until he gets to the wheel-run, after which he needs to get some sort of boost in order to get the super-fast running animation (like a spring, chute, steep downhill slope, anything that would act upon him to increase his speed).

You may need to play those 2 seconds of gameplay footage over and over to notice (which you’ve probably already done by now), but you’d notice that the run there is different from the jog shown a moment earlier. The jog is only one stage in the series of cycles that leads up to the fast run, and personally I prefer it over the simply slowed-down run cycle that the games used to have at the start of the run (IMHO it made him look like he was suffering from lethargy, though since we’ve all adapted to looking at it and accepting it the way it was, we often don’t see it as such).

Personally I’m hoping for a smoother transition from standing to running, and some sort of transition between each of the cycles of movement. At the end you see the jogging Sonic suddenly stop stock-still, then turn and start moving again. I WOULDN’T MIND IT IF THIS IS HOW IT TURNS OUT TO BE. It’s already like the way it used to be, with no transitions in the movement. I liked it that way and I wouldn’t mind if it remained that way.

yeah yeah, tl;dr.

Posted by Gryphon on February 4th, 2010 at 11:30 am

Comment # 490

Im thinking the fotage may not be from the version they are working on now, it might be a previous version like before or after the first teaser, or maybe even earlyer kinda like the concept art said it was uploaded in march of 09 (if that was true) but lets just hope they are reading the comments and are going to fix his animations. Some of the trailer actually seemed more like an animation mock-up, ited be nice if SEGA would tell us alittle more so we can al try to agree on some things, or release some screen shots of him running like he should be, and hopefully he still has a waiting animation.

Posted by Chuck on February 4th, 2010 at 11:38 am

Comment # 492

Sega, please.

PLEASE put in the REAL Sonic full-speed animation – where he runs making is legs spin like Road Runner used to do in the Gold Days.

Isn’t Sonic 4 supposed to be about speed? Why is he just WALKING? I want to see Sonic run like he used to.

Think about it. If he doesn’t run in full-speed like he used to, there’s no point in making this adventure going on.

Posted by Cotti on February 4th, 2010 at 11:45 am

Comment # 494

Although I’m happy that it actually turned out to be Sonic 4, but I have to give you my complaints so far, because I hope that you will read, understand and then take care of the things

1.) Homing Attack
- I don’t have a problem with the HA itself. Sonic always learned something new in the trilogy (spindash, insta shield [btw please bring the insta shield into Sonic 4!]) so it’s just natural that he learns something new in the fourth installment. BUT there is one VERY important thing about the homing attack. It MUSTN’T be the base for the level and boss design. Deadly pits wich can only be passed by a couple of homing attacks doesn’t belong in this kind of game because they absoluteley ruin it! Bosses get very easy with the homing attack if they aren’t adjusted to it. But if they are adjustes the aren’t classic and probably will become annoying with stupid attack patterns and what not (btw, please simple 8 hits and no energy bar!). Think about this! Think about the spindash. It was awesome but it was never required in the games. Also, the homing attack was invented because it was hard to jump on the head of an enemay in 3D but we have 2D here so it’s not a problem. In 2D all you have to do is give us good control over Sonic, thats all. I certanly hope that the homing attack wasn’t brought into the game to compensate bad controlls

2.) Running Animation
- While only about 3 seconds of actual game play footage were given, it’s not hard to say that Sonics running animation is just wrong. Sonics legs should fly and spin around like a tornado but they aren’t. It’s just like in Sonic Rush and it look out of place and too slow. If the legs would at least move faster at the same speed, it would feel faster and more like it!
Well you actually used the Sonic 2 BETA running animation in the trailer where the legs really twist! So spin them like crazy in Sonic 4 aswell!

3.) The Dust
- The trail of dust that Sonic drags behing himself all the time is also odd and totaly overdone. While it is a pretty nice effect, it should only happen when Sonic stops oder spindashes. Not every single footstep should create a big cloud of dust. It would be much better if those clouds would at least become much smaller, althought the are absolutely not nessecary for Sonics plain running. Look at all the other 2D games, Sonic just doesn’t do that!

4.) The HUD
- Okay, this is just a very minor thing and also a very easy thing for you to change.
The HUD looks okay but it’s way to far away from the borders of the screen. PLEASE just push them further to the edges so they don’t block so much of the screen. It actually makes you feel as if it narrow the screen down and tightens everything up!

5.) A “classic” classic Sonic
- Now this is only a little wish that I have, as I don’t have real problems with the modern age green-eyed Sonic, even in this game.
However, it would be really nice to add “Classic Sonic” as a second character, say an alternative version of Sonic with everything in classic shape. From the belly, to the legs, to the eyes.
Make him an unlockable or even downloadable bonus for all those classic lovers. And while your at it, give Eggman his classic design for this package / bonus aswell!

After all, this game is supposed to be a REAL classic styled Sonic game. I don’t flame everything new that you put in but (some of) these points are very important to actually maintain the feel and spirit of the classic games. Ken said it on Gamespot, that our reaction will create and form the perfect classic sonic game over time, at least with Episode II. There is still enough time for you guys left to get these changes done before the first part of the game gets released so PLEASE PLEASE do so and take care of these things to make THE PERFECT SONIC GAME!

Thanks for reading this! I hope that this is read by / given to the ones who actually work on Sonic 4. Please, let this game be for the fans!

Posted by a real sonicfan on February 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am

Comment # 496

Same as Redblaze27 just said. If we are going to be satiated from level to level, this had better be a LONG sidescroller, or else I’ll just download ‘em all in the last week. Even then, if there’s, like, ten episodes for 10 bucks apiece, I’m jumping ship and plugging in the old Sonic Mega Collection.

That said, Sonic 4 looks like it will really kick. Sonic Team has always found a way to screw up any project with promise, but I will devote my last shred of optimism to the hope that they don’t screw up this one.

Posted by JetDog on February 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am

Comment # 498

Lets all be hopefull that SEGA wont give us another Sonic 06, no matter what 06 is the worst pile of diarea passed of as a game i have ever played, and ive played alot of bad games.

Posted by Chuck on February 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am

Comment # 500

hmm, don’t know what to think yet. Frankly i like the 3D games much more, so a 2D game kinda has me worried.
(i haven’t been able to load the video yet, so i don’t know what exactly i’m looking foward to yet)
i would have preferred “Sonic Adventure 3″ that would have made my day

Posted by Mirage the Hedgehog on February 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

Comment # 502

gryphon understands what im seeing u can judge the run speed by just 3 seconds of gameplay u need at least 15 seconds of a straight away + loops

Posted by mark on February 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

Comment # 504

Also, please ignore ignorant flamers like KingScourge!! and oldschool sonic fan. they are idiots and if they get their way they will KILL the Sonic franchise.

i think the new, green-eyed Sonic looks much better than that old, plush-toy-looking design.
really, think about it- in the newer games, who would take the black-eyed Sonic seriously?!? not me.
Black-eyed Sonic vs. Perfect Chaos… HA!!! what a joke.

Posted by Mirage the Hedgehog on February 4th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

Comment # 506

Please, Sega. You need to fix the terrible running animation. Just give him the doggone wheel legs like the old games to give that illusion of speed again. It’s really jarring and obvious when you see the old Sonic sprites and then your new one. It’s terrible and needs some serious fixing.

I’m also suprised you didn’t at least go with the Sonic Unleashed character model instead of the Sonic Rush one. That one looked a lot better, honestly. Please, Sega. Don’t mess this up Sega. You’re already falling back into the “Sonic Cycle.”

Posted by Genki-JAM on February 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

Comment # 508

I think it’s funny how everyone is complaining about the homing attack. Listen, IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, DON’T USE IT!

Posted by Laxturtle on February 4th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

Comment # 510

The animation of Sonic running this failure seems that the movement of his top speed is missing runs like Sonic Unleashed and it’s nothing Well you modify the animations of Sonic for the style of Sonic Mega Drive please

Take away the effect of dust coming out of the race it was strange

Posted by milesprower on February 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

Comment # 512

To all the people telling sega not to listen to the complaints, do you want the game to fail? Because the game will be download only that severely limits their target audience. Only about 60 percent of console owners even go online. Sonic 4 also will lose the benefit of padded sales due to parents buying the game for their young children because they see it in the store, not knowing if the game is good or not. Therefore, this game is being sold to a niche audience: hardcore gamers and sonic fans. And contrary to popular belief, its a smaller base than most people think. Therefore, sega should take the comments and criticisms of the fans very seriously, as the fans are the target audience for this downloadable game.

Posted by Exen on February 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

Comment # 514

WIIWAAAAAAARRRRREEEE!!! YES YES YES YES YES YES!! I take back everything I’ve said about you lately Sega!

Posted by Anonymous on February 4th, 2010 at 12:41 pm

Comment # 516

And they call US stupid trolls. =7 Some of us are giving valid points on why Classic Sonic should be used for the direct sequel to Sonic 3. This may sound either like a nitpick or a “whine” to most fans of the new order, but using current gen Sonic for Sonic 4, breaks the continuity with games such as (e.g.) Sonic Triple Trouble which chronologically comes after Sonic 3 as well.

I hope they give us an option, though it’s no biggie. But newschool fans, the ones who are giving valid points aren’t whining… some of YOU are whining about us giving these points. -_- We don’t have “a bigger say”.

Like I mentioned before. What if you were awaiting a Twilight Princess sequel, and it features TOON LINK instead? I’m pretty sure people would also be “whining” then. This game is a direct sequel for Sonic 3, so it’s only NATURAL it should use the same designs.

Of course, to me it’s no biggie, but it still would’ve been best. (Not to mention a lot of people were probably misguided).
An unlockable/downloadable Classic Sonic cast could do the trick, though.

Other than this nitpicks, I’m extremely excited for this game.
Just my 2 cents.

Posted by Tearror on February 4th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

Comment # 518

I must admit the level scenery looks good, the layered background is definately retro style, I like, but I’ve still got a horrible feeling the animations won’t look good at all, the running looks awful atm, that Robotnik at the end looks awful and the controls/movement will not be spot on..

Posted by Snowy10r on February 4th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

Comment # 520

I think they should scale Sonic down a bit, he seemed to big for the level or atleast the part we saw, or at least scale the rings dow, they are to big. but still i only have small problems with the game so far and i cant wait to see more of it.

Posted by Chuck on February 4th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

Comment # 522

@Gryphon

I get what you mean about the story and such-like making it a sequel, but to me and others, it just doesn’t -feel- like a sequel when Sonic looks totally different. To me, green-eyed Sonic will always be associated with the new style of games, classic Sonic with the old style of games. I don’t dislike the new Sonic particularly (although it must be said that I vastly prefer the original design – has a timeless charm about it which is sadly lacking in the new design), but to put new Sonic in Sonic 4 seems to break the continuity entirely. It just seemed natural that it would be classic Sonic in this, it really did – let’s face it, that’s what it looked like, it WAS classic Sonic who was shown in Sonic 4′s first teaser picture all that time ago, that’s just plain misleading if you ask me.

At any rate, this will have a heck of a lot to live up to if it’s being called Sonic 4, seeing as Sonic 3 & Knuckles is one of the finest games in the franchise…

Posted by Jen on February 4th, 2010 at 1:08 pm

Comment # 524

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SEGA, You Guys Did Him All Wrong!

http://nurboy.deviantart.com/art/Official-vs-Fan-Improvement-152890217
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There is no escuse to release a DLC. REPLACE HIM!!!!

Posted by NurBoy on February 4th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

Comment # 526

@Mirage the Hedgehog: Sonic went too “GRIMDARK, EVIL MONSTERS” since Sonic Adventure, and left no place for Eggman. They don’t fit with classic Sonic, of course. Classic Eggman fits with classic Sonic – Because we couldn’t take him completely seriously, and that was the fun behind those battles against him (and his robots with cartoon-ish designs).
–

Dear SEGA, if you want to keep those “New Sonic” 3D models, then with all my heart, I ask to, please, abandon the Sonic 4 title. This is not “Sonic 4″, it is at best, “Sonic Advance 4″. If you want to do a sequel to the classics, then keep the designs of the classic games. Take a look at Sonic World’s 3D sonic model from Sonic Jam (saturn). It’d be great to have something similar – But New Sonic is completely not retro. Same with Eggman. It was great when he had a simple design. An special mention is the Sonic Movie, the feeling of the designs are great.

Sonic 1-2-3 and CD- Not a single one had homming attack. Not a single one had any of those gimmicks that kill the simple yet fun platforming feel. Getting to difficult places was very joyful, as if you had achieved a great thing on the game. Getting on different paths also gave you extra replay value. Why do you think Sonic 1-3 is still played by many fans? Because of their simplicity and replay value. Better yet – Because its -FUN-.

Most of the new sonic fans love the new sonic, calling us “haters” because we prefer the old one. But think: At who are you trying to get attention from? The old school ones of the new ones?

If it was from old school ones.. That as a slap on our face.

Posted by Hayate on February 4th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

Comment # 528

@K.Chaotix

Not very good? What are you, DEAD?

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

Comment # 530

Simple:
- I don’t want new model.
- I don’t want homing attack.
- I want wheel feets when sonic runs.
- I have same physic of SONIC 1,2,3 !!! …
- I don’t want any stupid think new, only a little little little change like was sonic 1 to sonic 2 …. or sonic 2 to sonic 3 …. could be
Nothing More ….

Posted by David on February 4th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

Comment # 532

I would like to point out that in the trailer, when we see the Sonic 1 version of Sonic his legs can be seen fully. Unlike in the Sonic 2 and 3 versions where they are spinning. So this “Leg Animation” that everyone is complaining about look quite similar to Sonic 1.

I, also, don’t see where people are getting that he isn’t moving “fast”. He looks plenty fast to me. It looks like he slows down in the Sonic 4 version. And if you can recall, it takes some time for Sonic to get up to speed and to slow down.

As far as the eyes goes… you can’t see them while you are playing. So what does it matter during game play? As far as the cut scenes go, I would image they would be done in the same vein as the originals did it. Either taking control from the character for a bit but keep the perspective or allow the player to move, but just not effect the things going on around him (like when the bomber airplane shows up in 2 – poor Tails for never getting out of the way of the bombs).

I will admit, like someone else posted, that I teared up a bit when I saw everything this morning. Sonic was a huge part of my life when I was young (21 now, 22 Sunday). This has been the Sonic game I’ve waited 15 years for, having not liked the non-original styles the other games took nor the cast of characters they decided to put in there. Though I will say I was pleasantly surprised by “Sonic: Unleashed”, I find it enjoyable.

Thank you SEGA, thank you for, what appears to be, you figuring out what Sonic does best.

Posted by Christopher on February 4th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

Comment # 534

@ SonicSALES

Your absolute right. Way too drastic, its depressing.

Posted by NurBoy on February 4th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

Comment # 536

WHAT IS EVERYONE’S PROBLEM.

One minute, Old School Sonic fans are asking for 2D Gameplay.
SEGA delivers.

Then, they want a trailer.
SEGA delivers.

And then people COMPLAIN. Listen guys, go play some Sonic and the Black Knight (if you dare to own it) then get back to here. THINK CLEARLY.

Sonic has green eyes. So what? Mario had full brown eyes, now they are blue.
Sonic has one modern move. So what? Mario preforms so many new moves.

I understand where you guys are coming from, but this is ridiculous! SEGA are doing their best to give you what you want, and your still not happy? STOP BEING SPOILT LITTLE BRATS. GO WITH IT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT’S 2010, IT ISN’T MEGAMAN, AND IT WANTS TO BE A GAME WITH IT’S OWN CLASS OF ORIGINALITY. Listen, if people don’t accept this as Sonic the Hedgehog 4, your not gonna get it. Or any other decent Sonic game. You can go watch as SEGA bring out a decent 2D Sonic game and say no to it because of his eye colour and homing attack, or accept it and go with the flow. I’m not saying this is an instant success either; SEGA will have to work hard to make it’s fanbase believe that we can finally rest easy knowing Sonic has some kind of future. Now, people who are saying Sonic’s dead because of his eye colour and single modern move, get the hell out. Your not old school Sonic fans; your just moody people on the other side of the internet ranting like a child at anything.

Posted by Brad on February 4th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

Comment # 538

I’ve watched this since the announcement, sat through months, came up to the point where I watched for this to happen, and now, it’s my time to step into this nonsense.
@ ALL PEOPLE COMPLAINING
Wow.
You people asked for this, and you got it. BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GOT ALREADY
You begged and begged for “omglolz i want classic awnik lol” and SEGA gives you it, but what now? You hate it.
Who CARES if homing attack is in the game? Want them to remove spindash too? Oh oh, or maybe even take away your jump since you want things to leave so much. Would you be happy with that? Enjoy what you got and stop being so damn selfish about it.

Those complaining about his eye color, GROW UP ALREADY. I could hardly care if his eyes were a stupid huge light red color for all I care. If you SERIOUSLY don’t like this because of his eye color, you have serious issues for real. Also “spinning legs animation” does not make the game go back to classic at all, it’s just an animation. Thats all.

I am ‘REALLY’ disappointed with the sonic fanbase at this point, and how ungrateful you guys are when you actually get what you want.

“tl;dr but im rite and your wrong” if you want, but right now this is completely at the point where people will believe believe this now.

And to SEGA.
Don’t let these comments get in the way of this game at all, I’m really expecting to get this soon. Don’t let these ungrateful idiots ruin your time to make this a good game.

Also, I’d love to see someone hate me over this post, because it will prove my point even further.

Posted by YellowThunder1712(aka pac) on February 4th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

Comment # 540

you jst know it wen people want a game it comes out and they say it SUCK BUT THEY JUST SAY IT TO MAKE THE COMP. FEEL BAD BECAUSE F WAT THEY DID TO THERE MASCOT!!!!!

Posted by koedan on February 4th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

Comment # 542

Oh. My. God.
After soooo long SEGA….
I finally have a need to stay updated.

Posted by Kenji_Baionoto on February 4th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

Comment # 544

RubyEclipse, I want you to read this comment, respond, and relay this to Sega:

Add Classic-styled Sonic and Eggman/Robotnik into the game. Is that too much to ask? You hype Classic Sonic, and then give us the old bait-and-switch again like always.

Why Modern Sonic? Give us a Classic Sonic and Classic Eggman model for crying out loud! It’s Sonic 4! A sequel to Classic Sonic games!

Modern Sonic looks butt-ugly.

Posted by Rockman Zero on February 4th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

Comment # 546

The game should start with a short flashback that Doomsday zone and what happened afterwards

Posted by Shadic on February 4th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

Comment # 548

@Mirage the Hedgehog: Sonic went too “GRIMDARK, EVIL MONSTERS” since Sonic Adventure, and left no place for Eggman. They don’t fit with classic Sonic, of course. Classic Eggman fits with classic Sonic – Because we couldn’t take him completely seriously, and that was the fun behind those battles against him (and his robots, with cartoon-ish designs).
–

SEGA, if you want to keep those “New Sonic” 3D models, then with all my heart, I ask to, please, abandon the Sonic 4 title. This is not “Sonic 4″, it is at best, “Sonic Advance 4″. If you want to do a sequel to the classics, then keep the designs of the classic games. Take a look at Sonic World’s 3D sonic model from Sonic Jam (saturn). It’d be great to have something similar – But New Sonic is completely not retro. Same with Eggman. It was great when he had a simple design. An special mention is the Sonic Movie, the feeling of the designs are great.

Sonic 1-2-3 and CD- Not a single one had homming attack. Not a single one had any of those gimmicks that kill the simple yet fun platforming feel. Getting to difficult places was very joyful, as if you had achieved a great thing on the game. Getting on different paths also gave you extra replay value. Why do you think Sonic 1-3 is still played by many fans? Because of their simplicity and replay value. Better yet – Because its -FUN-.

Most of the new sonic fans love the new sonic, calling us “haters” because we prefer the old one. But think: At who are you trying to get attention from? The old school ones of the new ones?

If it was from old school ones.. That as a slap on our face.

Posted by Hayate on February 4th, 2010 at 2:21 pm

Comment # 550

I’m quite disappointed due to all the hype you gave to us on it being in a new classic style and being “2D” as when we heard 2D, I thought you meant it 100% and that it could have been in HD like how Super Street Fighter II HD Remix was. It’s not a 2D sidescroller, it’s a 3D sidescroller. It looks no different then Sonic Rush or Rivals, so I don’t see the point all the hype, calling the a game with the same style as Sonic Rush by the title of Sonic the Hedgehog 4 as well as using the current ugly neo designs for something that is supposed to be both before Sonic Adventure and after Sonic 3 & Knuckles as well as promoting it as the next installment in the Genesis/Mega Drive series.

I also don’t like how Sonic isn’t moving that fast. Sega, do you even REMEMBER playing Sonic the Hedgehog 2? Play Chemical Plant Zone Act 1, in certain parts of that zone, Sonic ran SO fast that he almost outran the screen, he was too fast for even the “Blast Processing”, THAT is Sonic Speed. If this meant to be the next “Mega Drive” Sonic game then it has to have Sonic JUST as fast.

Hopefully the game will be good and I welcome a new Sonic sidescroller, but I feel lied too from all this misleading hype.

Posted by Spax on February 4th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

Comment # 552

^
Blah blah blah, I’m b****ing because instead of 2D images, I’m getting real 3D graphics. Bleh bleh blah bleh.

stfu and enjoy it

Posted by Stonk on February 4th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Comment # 554

warm fuzzies all over, sonic team/sega of america, you have earned my 50 bucks for pre-order. also, pleaseee tell me sonic has a faster “running” animation

Posted by Champagon on February 4th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

Comment # 556

Whooooooaaaaaa…. :O
This is a moment of pure glory. Definitely a day-1 buy for me.

I can’t believe some of the thing people are whining about though. You haven’t got a clue! Tell you what – you make us a game and we’ll see if you can simultaneously please several million people with different Sonic experiences. Eh? You’ve seen what? 5 seconds of footage of a game in early stages. And your opinion, while you’re entitled to it, is just an opinion. It’s doesn’t mean you’re right. If you don’t like it, can you at least stop complaining about it and let those of us who are ecstatic enjoy the moment please?

SEGA, I love you once again.

Posted by Zink120 on February 4th, 2010 at 2:38 pm

Comment # 558

Basically, it’s a reuse of the Sonic Unleashed engine with the Werehog and 3d Daytime parts removed. As a developer I understand how useful the reuse of preexisting code is, but really, if you wanted to appeal to the hardcore gamers, going back to the old 2d style was the best way.
There’s nothing that says that 2d graphics have to be bad, as games like the recently released BlazBlue and the indie game Braid have proven that 2d is still amazing.
Also, I’m fairly certain the physics system will follow the Unleashed physics, since translating the old 2d physics to a 3d environment would be something else entirely.
But I think the worst of it is hanging on to that homing attack. For a 3d game, it does sort of make sense to use, but for a 2d game where the player has more control over the character’s exact movements, a homing attack is unnecessary and, I think, detrimental to the gameplay. Again, it’s probably because the Unleashed engine is being used.
And no, I don’t care for Sonic’s new looks either.

Posted by Sylvester Ink on February 4th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

Comment # 560

If this game fails I’ll just IMAGINE this is the true Sonic 4 http://slaviknenych.webs.com/ (at the very bottom)

Posted by MarioFanBoy on February 4th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

Comment # 562

@ everyone complaining about the New vs. old look

Video Game Characters age too!!! while it never specifies how long it is between games, it always states that some time has passed. in Sonic 1, he was 13. by sonic 4, he should be around 16.

what does this have to do with the whole look thing? compare your 13 year old self to your 16 year old self. you’re taller, stronger, and hopefully leaner. it’s natural that the character would shift design by age alone.

However, take into account how much he runs and fights. he runs almost 24/7 and fights the same if Robotnik is around he’s burned off his pudginess with his natural running and fighting.

and the eye? they just couldn’t add coloration back then. it’s not that big a deal.

Anyway, that’s all i have to say on the subject

Posted by Boyo on February 4th, 2010 at 2:48 pm

Comment # 564

No no no….Sonic looks so fast in Sonic 1, 2,3. Then get to sonic 4 and he looks slow and his animation looks choppy. PLEASE fix this before release.

Posted by G.ary on February 4th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

Comment # 566

@Zink120 why don’t you look up the Sonic 2 HD project and see how a sonic game should be made in 2010

Posted by Exen on February 4th, 2010 at 2:53 pm

Comment # 568

Hahaha… SEGA must think I am one of the employees now giving off information like this… ^^

Posted by Chris K. on February 4th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

Comment # 570

So, it’s a downloadable game eh? And it’s on wiiware as well. Sweet. I’m looking forward to it. The only thing I’d suggest though, like others have mentioned, is allowing sonic’s legs to spin like they did in the old days, to really give the simulation of speed, without making the environment move unplayably fast.

Posted by Damion Lionheart on February 4th, 2010 at 2:59 pm

Comment # 572

Nice idea, Continuing where they let the 2D series
Sonic The Hedgehog 1, 2, 3 and now the forth serie. Really cleaver SEGA

Posted by BP G@mer on February 4th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Comment # 574

***********************
SEGA, You Did HimAll Wrong!

http://nurboy.deviantart.com/art/Official-vs-Fan-Improvement-152890217
***********************

And make no escuses to release a DLC. Change his looks NOW!!!!!

Posted by NurBoy on February 4th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

Comment # 576

YAHOO!!!!!!

Gonna download this on every platform that I can. I’ve got high hopes for this, perhaps the highest ever, so be please be careful sega. But I’ve got faith in you, so good luck and may the summer race here faster than the blue blur himself!!

Posted by Goodman on February 4th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

Comment # 578

@nurboy: they know how to draw sonic!

Posted by # 1 sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

Comment # 580

what is the price ?

Posted by john on February 4th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

Comment # 582

@ old school sonic fan
two words- shut it
I totally get that everyone has an opinion, that’s cool. If you don’t like the game, ok. Your opinion, not mine. But please stop filling up the board with your negative comments… it’s considered rude.

Posted by Crystal on February 4th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

Comment # 584

@#1 Sonic Fan : and I know how to make him look right.

Posted by NurBoy on February 4th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

Comment # 586

I’m looking forward to this game.

One thing I find funny is that every other retro revival from every other company gets welcomed with open arms. Whether its an overall redesign or brand new mechanics that doesn’t ruin the game for the “hardcore” gamers, people find it refreshing. Sega finally joins in on the party (if they weren’t the first to do it with Sonic Advance/Rush) and fans STILL aren’t happy. There’s still gripe over how he looks, though he’s had that new look since ’98? Really?

People complained that Sonic Rush was too easy and too fast, so they slowed it down here. And I LOVED Sonic Rush! Now there’s complaints that he looks like he’s running too slow. I don’t want to speculate too much, but in the cut scene, he just got out of a spin dash and ran a loop up a hill. I can bet you he’ll have a peak speed animation when its time. He always had, he always will.

If I had to complain about anything, I miss being able to play as Tails and Knuckles back in the S2/S3/S3K days. I wonder what’s the odds of that kind of downloadable content later on?

I give my condolences to Sonic Team and Sega’s PR department right now if they’re hearing their “beloved fans” right now. But more power toward the official release, guys!

Posted by DT-Fox on February 4th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

Comment # 588

Re: previous assumption on game plot

LOL! that really is the plot… though, just without Tails. And this time Eggman’s just gunning for Sonic rather than try to take over the world right off the bat.

New Sonic with shiny black eyes looks like an alien. no rly. You have to account for the change in the shade of blue that was made to balance out the brilliance of his eyes. Plus, what’s going to compliment the red in his shoes?

And Sonic has never looked like a real hedgehog. XD

Posted by Gryphon on February 4th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

Comment # 590

to all the nit pickers that first bashed newer games and now complain because hes not chubby, has green eyes, and has a homing attack wtf is wrong with you? this game looks good bessides the running, and it will most likly be fixed later on. man some of you cant stop complaining unless its perfect(which nothing is). i think its a good blen, plus you have to account for the other things like an entire comic searies that needs to follow the games(not directly but as far as sonic’s look goes). so stop complaining and enjoy it my goodness.

Posted by axel on February 4th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

Comment # 592

So if this game is episodic, maybe they’re going to put Tails in episode 2, Knuckles in episode 3, and Big in episode 4.

As for comment 467, why is Sonic trying to bleach his fur? And emptying out his eyes? And never evolving in form in any way whatsoever because the way something starts is always the best even if the way it starts is pretty mediocre?

And I’ll be honest here, I grew up with Sonic. Well, sort of. I was introduced to Sonic early on and it was basically the only series I knew of until about 1997 (that’d be a few years of Sonic). Then I drifted away until 2002. And I’d have to say I like his newer design more.

Posted by Topmonhit on February 4th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

Comment # 594

OK SEGA now is your chance to redeem yourself! DON’T **** THIS ONE UP!

Posted by vicviper on February 4th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

Comment # 596

i have to say this, anyone who dosent agree with the nagers and complainers to them becomes a fan boy, aparently. you guys should take your genisis cable and chock yourself, for gods sakes its a 2d game (there is no 2.5d just a 2d platformer with 3d graphics). we have the badniks, runing(needs to be fixed but we will have it), and we have a basic classic sonic with some new abilities and look. we also will most likly have little to no dialog (what i mean maby sub text at the bottom that you wouldnt really pay attention to anyway), and its similer to the original plot! seriously go jump off this forum and kill yourself. look who has become stubburn and ignorent now. you complainers are the ruiners of the franchise. it has to be the way you want it and no one else has taste but you, and if it isnt well were gunna sit and complain and not do anything about it, complain without having knowlege of some of the hard choices that go into this, complain even though we cant make anything close to it if we tried (talking about programing). really just buy it and try it. your no better than a fanboy, your an anti fanboy in that you wont buy anything or tryit unless its your way, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. oldschoolsonicfan and andre this very much applies to you from what i’ve been reading on the older and newer posts of yours. so dont complain because at least the fanboys give things a try while you spend your time crtizizing every little thing you idiots.

Posted by Emerald master on February 4th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

Comment # 598

Beautiful! Brought tears to my eyes!
Getting Xbox live just to download this!!!!!!!!

Posted by Essie on February 4th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

Comment # 600

Everything about this video/reveal so far has had me smiling madly, but, to keep the majority of the fans super happy I think they should just change the run animation to the figure of 8 run animation, i’m not saying it isnt in the game, but, since that seems to be peoples main thing they complain about so far, it shouldnt be difficult to change that animation just to keep everyone happy, but in my opinion everythings great so far ;D

Posted by Gary on February 4th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

Comment # 602

@484 im actuall majoring in programing. so you might get your wish. sonic inspiered me to be a programer.

Posted by Emerald master on February 4th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

Comment # 604

I thought you guys were gonna give us classic Sonic Why did you use all those “hints” with the logos and the sprites on the website if that wasn’t the case?
I got sad. I thought we’d get a chance to see that iconic design again.

Posted by Hedgehogger on February 4th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

Comment # 606

Oh, and I’m also happy that they’re using Sonic’s new design instead of his old one.

Posted by Kirk on February 4th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

Comment # 608

All I Can Say Is This. Please Don’t Mass This Up SEGA!!!

Posted by Roy 9000 on February 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

Comment # 610

oh no, sonic has his homing attack in this game!!

Posted by Ryan on February 4th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

Comment # 612

wait, he didn’t even do a homing attack in that trailer?
what is everyone whining about?
really though, his running looks a bit… off. like he’s jogging or speedwalking.
I hope it doesn’t look like that in game.
heh. this is like new super mario bros for sonic.
I am worried about the “episode” thing. how long is each episode, and how many will there be?

Posted by ummm... on February 4th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

Comment # 614

Sega and Sonic Team – I hope you realize that you have set the bar so high by picking the name Sonic the Hedgehog 4 you’ll have to land on the moon to meet them….I sincerely hope that you aren’t trying to use the name to con the old-school fanbase into loving it.

side note – make a genesis controller that can work on the consoles! that’s the only way this thing should be played if you’re really wanting to make it sonic 4

Posted by Sirsonik on February 4th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

Comment # 616

To all the “Sonic’s run and jump look sluggish” comments, I thought that too… At first
Pay attention to the slight gameplay and the running actually looks pretty good for the speed he’s going. That might not even be the top speed animation, you never know. The reason it looks so sluggish is that they animated the parts where it looks that way.

Also, they aren’t going back to the original design. I can’t believe there are some people who wont buy the game because of that. Get over yourselves.

One more thing, Homing Attack isn’t really a bad thing. I rarely used it in the Rush series, I doubt I’ll use it now. Besides, if it was introduced in one of the old games, (apparently Sonic 3D Blast doesn’t count) you would be all for it.

There. I’m glad I got all that out in the open. Enough of the complaining comments, jeez.

Posted by Spencer Hannon on February 4th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

Comment # 618

Spencer: Nice to see someone using some common sense on here. This fanbase is absolutely goddamn awful if some of the comments here are anything to go by.

I get the impression that Sonic’s legs *will* spin in the game. The bit where he’s jumping on the Badnik’s clearly isn’t gameplay, and he’s clearly not moving at full stop in the bare three seconds of actual gameplay we get to see.

This is only meant to be a teaser. Lets wait for an actual gameplay video before we start jumping to misinformed conclusions.

Posted by Michael O'Connor on February 4th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

Comment # 620

WHAT HOMING ATTACK? I see nothing in the trailer or the post that indicates a homing attack that thing he did in the trailer where he killed the enemies is just called JUMPING.
Sega, this looks great (aside from the running animation, which I’m pretty sure is just beta right now… right?)

Posted by ummm... on February 4th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

Comment # 622

I can’t wait to see more of this game.

Posted by KnucklesFan26 on February 4th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

Comment # 624

I’m crying right now.I wanted Old -Skool Sonic in it.Not the ugly lookind awful evil Sonic.I hate the new Sonic.Please change it to old -skool Sonic.Please get rid of that ugly looking one that gave me nightmares.Please I,m begging to do it.I am really really really upset.Please bring back old skool Sonic back.You really upset me.

Posted by Noah Agrios on February 4th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

Comment # 626

Awwwwwwwwwwwessssoooome!

I can only hope there can be later add on you can purchase for extra characters?

The only thing I can point out is…the animation. Looks really stiff and I don’t think you are utilizing Sonic to his full potential speed here. THINK about it. Exaggeration can be your friend. In all honesty, he looks like he’s out taking a brisk stroll here rather than going all out super fast! And I don’t think it can be fixed by speeding up the run cycle…There is something about cartoony leg spin vs. two feet on the ground sprint that fools the brain into thinking he is going faster. I mean…cartoony leg spin? That’s CRAZY FAST!

You guys are freakin’ SEGA! You are not held in bound by the laws of PHYSICS! It’s SONIC THE HEDGEHOG we are talking about here. Don’t be afraid to shoot out of the box in your animation department!!!

From: Tigsie the Ringling Animation Grad

Posted by Tigsie on February 4th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

Comment # 628

First things first, good job Sonic Team. You’re definitely on the right track. It’s good to know that there aren’t going to be any new stupid characters or gimmicks in this game. The graphics do look crisp and wonderful and I’m actually quite happy that Sonic’s eyes are green. However, I do have to publicize the negative feedback that’s been wandering through my head all day. This criticism is about the comment you guys posted earlier. That whole “speed is earned” speech was total crap, sorry. I watched the video and was disappointed when I saw Sonic practically crawling across the screen and a snails pace. I mean, come on! MARIO could run faster than that! I just want the speed to be increased, if at all possible, and no I don’t think it’s more exhilarating when you have to wait forever to get it. However, keep up the good work. I’ll be waiting impatiently for the game’s arrival.

Posted by Zaneme on February 4th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

Comment # 630

Please Sega Team, fix the running animations

Posted by 678 on February 4th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

Comment # 632

@To everyone who wants classic Sonic: Aw, come on, don’t make him go through the pain of going back!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/SSJshadowX/needsmoarretro-1.png?t=1265333402
(Not drawn by me)

Posted by Randy on February 4th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

Comment # 634

Man I really think SEGA is starting to rival MArio again
- Sonic & SEGA All-Stars to rival Mario Kart
- Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to rival New Super Mario Bros. Wii
-Sonic Unleashed to rival Super Mario Galaxy (Unleashed is awesome, at-least 40% of it)
-Sonic PC Collection
-Sonic Classic Collection
And lately there were no BAD Sonic games…. Sonic & the Black Knight was OK for a spin-off and yeah, Sonic Rush games rocked…. The last bad game that was released was probably Sonic & the Secret Rings or Sonic 06…. SEGA is slowly coming back! Now theres need to be Sonic Game featuring Naruto!!!!!!! for the lulz

Posted by MarioFanBoy on February 4th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

Comment # 636

SEGA I am begging you please have the original Sonic. The trailer left me getting hyped and hyped to see Sonic process from the first through the years until now in Sonic 4 Episode 1. I was so excited to see how the animation on Sonic in the 90s will look like. But it was the 3D version of Sonic.This really put a awful taste in my mouth and turned off my nostalgia in a second. I was baffled about the fact that you guys had payed so much attention to a flower in the background and a tree but you didn’t even think to put the original Sonic all the “retro” gamers knew. This Sonic just gave me bad flashbacks and turned me off. Other than that it was great of course the running animation to the classics. I can’t wait to play the game but I feel you can’t call it Sonic the Hedgehog 4 without that series Sonic. After I seen the trailer I thought it looked morel like a Sonic Advance 4 or Sonic Rush sequel and nothing like the originals at all. As far as the homing attack goes I would say remove it just because it will be closer to the original games but I don’t have much of a problem with it as others. Bottom line is please give us the original black eyes smaller sonic from the first few games. After all you are directing this to the “old school” players. Thanks guys and still looking forward to it.

Posted by Anthony on February 4th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

Comment # 638

everyone is an idort

Posted by Sawnik on February 4th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

Comment # 640

I can’t wait to play this new game, I hope they do edit Sonic’s running!
Lovely Graphics! Go Sonic, goooo!

Posted by chicaramirez on February 4th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

Comment # 642

The example for Sonic 2 they used is from Sonic 2 beta. And all of you saying “he runs like ass” Why would they show Sonic 1,2, and 3 running with the spiral feet and then Sonic 4 NOT have it. I am sure they will put it in.

Posted by Frank Homolka on February 4th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

Comment # 644

I wish somebody would tell me if I’ve constantly refreshing the blog all day for nothing. I’d like to know if the contest is winners are still going to be named today, as planned.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

Comment # 646

HEY SEGA LISTEN UP! [& @chicaramirez I agree] I can’t wait for this game, but one little artistic critique: Sonic running at full-speed REALLY should look like it did in his original hay day -ya know: “Windmill style”, circular, Wheel-like “cartoony”!! Sure, it’s not really anatomically realistic but heck, this is SONIC, not a hedgehog simulator. LOL I’m 27 and grew up with Sonic from his 1st day available to the public on the original Sega Genesis and today I’m a digital artist, in tiny part thanks to Sonic’s influence! =) The wheel-look of his legs and feet just really gives a MUCH better look and complete feel of movement and speed to the game that the “realistic/humanoid” “scissor-like” movement just doesn’t convey AT ALL. Just change that back to the way it was in yesteryear and all will be right in the world of Sonic!! =)

Thank you for all your efforts, time and talent SEGA/SONIC TEAM!!!!
Summer 2010 can’t come soon enough!!
Very Sincerely, your forever faithful fan,
Daniel E. D.

Posted by Glyph2040 on February 4th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

Comment # 648

One word. EPIC.

Posted by DarkSonicM97 on February 4th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Comment # 650

HISTORY HAS BEEN MADE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS DO IT TO IT SONIC!!!

Posted by ryan.m on February 4th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

Comment # 652

What you guys at sega should do is have 2 modes, classic and modern. that way, you can play as sonic in modern style or classic style. that way you satisfy both old school and new school fans, so they won’t have to complain about sonic’s eyes.

Posted by BlueLightning on February 4th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

Comment # 654

Yay Sega is bring the old style of game play back, and to all of those who are whining about the new Sonic being in the game please… SHUT THE HELL UP? OMG So what if it is the new Sonic style what matters is the game play, It makes me sad how people complain even when then get what they want I like both then new and old style of Sonic. Be gratefully they are making it and even taking fan input at all. :/ If I had something to say about this game I’d like to see Blaze appear in it but I’m fine with good old Sonic new or old style. GWAD. I bet someones going to rage about me posting this comment.

Posted by Pikachu20 on February 4th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

Comment # 656

@John:why r u even here ok just leave u’ll see sonic is making a come back.

Posted by # 1 sonic fan on February 4th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

Comment # 658

The game runs in 1080p on PS3 and Xbox 360 and 480p on Wii, and will offer motion control via Wiimote or PS3 Sixaxis, along with online leaderboards for speed-running enthusiasts.

Posted by cheap r4 card on February 4th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

Comment # 660

I’ll get news by 12pm tomorrow. CAN’T WAIT!

Wonder what kind of info we’ll get. Ugh.. July can’t come soon enough… Problem with being a gamer is, you’re always looking forward to something, and before you know it, time’s passed you by.

Posted by ShiHe on February 4th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Comment # 662

SEGA fails at being a company.

Thats why they don’t have a console, and why the CD/32x/Saturn/Dreamcast failed.

Posted by Dante on February 4th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

Comment # 664

Jeez, I can’t believe how immature you guys are acting about this. SEGA finally gives you a game that you have been whining for years for, and how do you thank them? You go around shouting “OMG SEGA’S DEAD!!1″ and “TEH GAEM IZ RUINED!!1!1″. You guys are acting like a bunch of spoiled 5 year olds.

Despite the fact that we only saw 3 seconds of gameplay footage (that looked good) and that Ruby himself comfirmed that this game will have momentum-based gameplay just like the classics, you’re ready to throw SEGA into a fire pit simply because of one small detail. Honetly people, grow up.

Also, I’d just like to point out thst there are people who actually like Sonic’s current design, so thinking that the game should cater 100% to you and completely ignore them isn’t really helping your maturity.

Posted by Ruan on February 4th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

Comment # 666

Also, @John: What exactly is such a drastic change that you feel you should completely give up on this game. Sonic’s design? Which hasn’t even changed THAT much?

I can understand if you like classic Sonic more (we all have our opinions), but missing out on an entire game because of that one tiny detail seems REALLY stupid.

Posted by Ruan on February 4th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

Comment # 668

Really, give Sega a break guys they are trying to give you what they want and you all blow them over about them having the old Sonic back….. now that will cause another problem cause I can hear the new Sonic fans going… “WTH Sonic is all fat and crap now Sega fails” T_T This is why I don’t hang out with other Sonic fans. :/

Posted by Pikachu20 on February 4th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

Comment # 670

This has got to be a joke…no classic looking Sonic? or Robotnik? What the Hell Sega.

Dissapointed, How can any of you take this and like it? Its practically Golden cover s*** getting thrown at you!

Posted by Cleetus on February 4th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

Comment # 672

Holy crap people. This just officially proves that all of you are ungrateful. Sega finally gives BOTH fan sides a game we ALL wanted and you STILL bitch about it. They could remake the old game and people would still complain. Heck people said they wanted an HD sonic collection and with Sega Genesis Collection people COMPLAINED because apparently it wasn’t a perfect port of the classics. I find this ridiculous and stupid. Complaints about eye color etc? Why don’t you stop being whiny and just wait. If you HATE Sonic SO much and if they old games were SUCH classics, then you would be happy to JUST play those. So SHUT UP and WAIT and stop whining about insignificant things. Retards

Posted by Jared on February 4th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

Comment # 674

Uh…the entire point of this game was to be retro, hence why alot of the old school fans were anxious about this game. Mega Man 9 told the kiddies out there who enjoyed Mega Man Battle Network to take a back seat and let the grown ups have their fun for once cause its been over a decade. Same should’ve applied with Sonic. Sega was on the right track when they displayed concept art and the classic Sonic design on their banners, but they caved in to the newer fans and completely screwed up the nostalgia factor. Thats like if Capcom showed us the 8-bit Mega Man sprites to hype up Mega Man 9 and gave us the Battle Network design. Its false advertising, incredibly deceiving, and a mockery of the original games.

Now If this new Sonic game didn’t have the 4 marque, I would respect it as a new addition to the NEW Sonic games with a retro twist. That’s fine. But the fact that Sega had the balls to call this Sonic the Hedgehog 4, implementing the newer design doesn’t mesh with me. If they claim this is the long awaited installment to Sonic 3 & Knuckles, then the designs should remain consistent with that particular series and sadly it doesn’t.

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 4th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

Comment # 676

@Knothole:

“blah blah blah, I’m a whiny crybaby bitch”

S-T-F-U. I saw your “video” earlier today and you are one of the single most obnoxious people I have ever had the displeasure of hearing speak.

The kind of attitude you have toward this is repulsive in every sense of the word. Don’t act like you have a god damn clue what you’re talking about. The new design elements have absolutely nothing to do with catering to new fans. It was their choice and their choice alone, and it was made because they felt it was the most visually appealing way to present the new content.

THE NEW CONTENT THAT MAKES UP THE GAME. The part of the game that MATTERS. Not the fucking color of his god damned eyes.

I swear to GOD, you people are so picky you’d probably boycott and riot in front of Sega if the OLD games if they were repackaged and presented to you with a single pixel of discoloration somewhere.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 11:07 pm

Comment # 678

And now I eagerly await some furious elitist reply that will “set me straight” and probably just make me even more ashamed to be a part of the same fanbase.

Sigh. If only I could just pretend you didn’t exist.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 4th, 2010 at 11:19 pm

Comment # 680

who cares if they use the new sonic model. heh, crybabies. graphics aren’t important, gameplay is the only thing that matters. in fact. sega should just make sonic a big blue rectangle and change all the graphics to follow suite. then all u whiners can go cry in a corner while i enjoy sonics triumphant return.

Posted by A COOL GUY on February 4th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

Comment # 682

thanks for this ferrari sega but it’s the wrong color. also the paint is scratched

Posted by AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA on February 4th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

Comment # 684

O_o people are still arguing about the retro vs the new style? I personally believe that SEGA should just put sonic in any style they want. Its their creation after all, but since they are aiming for the old school audience with this game and bringing back the classic elements of sonic then its likely that the retro style can be in the game. I’m ok with any style as long as the game play is the way it used to be in the classic games and from seeing the trailer I’m glad to see that sonic finally proven that he can still live on as the way past cool character that got me hooked to games in the first place.

ChaoticFox, thanks for pointing that out…

Posted by 123Omega on February 4th, 2010 at 11:44 pm

Comment # 686

originally, I was bothered by the use of the DC+ model… but I still can’t frown on a sonic game without a boost button…

come on, SEGA, you’re still better than the last decade or so! >_>

Posted by Aitamen on February 5th, 2010 at 12:10 am

Comment # 688

Same here Chaoticfox

Posted by Sora on February 5th, 2010 at 12:39 am

Comment # 690

Boy with all these crybabies whining about minor things in this game, it makes me wish every gaming company followed Sonic Teams’ formula just for lulz(And that includes Independant and Homebrew)

Posted by udx on February 5th, 2010 at 1:19 am

Comment # 692

I think it’s an awesome game they are working on. I for one don’t care if they are using new-school or old-school character design (for real, ya are crying about the color of Sonic eyes, or the name of Robotnik and Eggman?).

I do think they should make his running animation a bit more speedy, but I can live with what he got right now. I’m not going to die if they don’t change it, like some of these morons!

Posted by CKT-INC on February 5th, 2010 at 1:41 am

Comment # 694

Yikes, looks like you really can’t please everyone! Me included, apparently.

With the return to the old days, I was really hoping that SEGA would revert the name to Dr Robotnik. Eggman sounds like the insult a 5 year old would come up with for him. Most of us grew up fighting off Robotnik, PLEASE think about changing the name back, even if only for the 2D installments!

Posted by flakmagnet on February 5th, 2010 at 2:17 am

Comment # 696

Those among you with completely unconditional and blind support are doing nothing to help this game, and are in fact hurting it’s development.

What Sega needs is constructive feedback from the fanbase it is supposedly targeting with this game. We are letting Sega know exactly what we feel works and what does not. If nobody speaks up, it’s impossible for them to make it as great as it can be.

If you want Sonic to be anorexic and have anime eyes, by all means, speak up, but don’t discourage the comments that other people have to make. You act as if we are going to hurt Sega’s feelings so badly that they will stop making the game altogether. This is not even remotely possible.

There are two possible outcomes from complaining about aspects of the game we feel are poorly thought out:
1)They listen to the ideas and change the game for the better.
2)They reject the ideas, and it is as if we never said anything at all.

Compare this to the option of not complaining about anything. The only possible outcome is that the game is shipped without out input one way or the other, and fails to address potentially crucial concerns. Criticism is the strongest tool for improvement.
Sega will not simply get an A for effort, they need to make this game count.

As it is aimed at the older fans of the game and a return to the old style of Sonic, the primary focus should be pleasing that audience. I doubt newer fans of the game would care if Sonic put on a few pounds, shrunk down a bit, and took out his green contact lenses. This is, however, a concern to the more fickle audience that this game is geared towards.

There is no need to compromise. If you want to make a retro Sonic game, do it right. 3D is acceptable as long as you stick to the original designs, although sprite artwork would score big bonus points. If you try to strike a balance between both groups of fans, you will end up pleasing neither.

So, here’s a reasonable evaluation:

+Background art looks good, and true to the originals even if it is fully 3D.
+The badnik designs capture the classic feel well.
+It’s all 2D movement.

-3D detracts from the retro feel
-The running animation looks awkward, unfinished, and slow. Like a 3D student’s first run cycle.
-The updated Sonic design creates a disconnect from the previous 2D games in the series. It does not feel seamless.
-Homing attack removes a large amount of the skill from the game, such as speeding through acts by carefully positioning your bounces off enemies. This was not only never used in any other 2D sonic game, but it eliminates the insta-shield ability, and potentially items such as the fire/water/electric shield.

The best move from Sega would be to keep the original style of the original games for this 2D revival, and keep all of the updated designs and extraneous gameplay elements limited to the 3D series.
I fully support Sega and the release of this game, but I want it to be as great as it has the potential to be.
Remember, Sega may produce the game, but it’s the opinion of the fans that sells it. Turning a deaf ear to them would be foolish.

Posted by Spring Yard on February 5th, 2010 at 2:27 am

Comment # 698

@Blue Emerald your statement couldn’t be more factual and your post on Sonic Retro was dead accurate to my reaction.

Titling this game Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is setting the bar pretty high and it fails immediately by using modern designs in the classic series. The consistency is now screwed up and its degrading the history of the 90s games. If this didn’t hold the “4″ title, I wouldn’t have an issue with it. It would just be another chapter in the Next Gen series. The game play looks good, no problems there. But since Sega is going backwards, and hyped this game to be a return to the classics, I feel that they are altering the past by shoehorning the modern designs into an established numbered series and that doesn’t sit right with me.

Sega remember this. The game follows directly after Sonic 3 & Knuckles so there needs to be some type of story to tie everything together. Like I said, if the green eyes were the byproduct on the Hyper Emeralds, I can buy into that theory. Going further, how about Robotnik’s defeat caused him to adapt a new look since according to the leaked story, hes more furious and vengeful. Meaning if hes redesigning his old badniks, that would mean a wardrobe change as well (ie his modern Eggman appearance) to correlate to this agenda.

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 5th, 2010 at 2:36 am

Comment # 700

Must …have.. it .. on .. PC!!!!

Posted by Kopacha on February 5th, 2010 at 2:54 am

Comment # 702

Yeaahh!!Finally the game what everybody it’s waiting for!!! Sega, Thanks a lot for make this game!!

Posted by YordiC on February 5th, 2010 at 3:00 am

Comment # 704

So guys, I noticed that it mentions Sonic has homing attack in his profile, and I really hope that it’s more of a communication error rather than something really in the game. Because we’re being promised something that hasn’t been seen since Sonic & Knuckles. And if there’s homing attack, it’s just a regular 2D sonic game, because it’s not like we were lacking 2D sonic games. It’s not so special anymore to just make a regular 2D sonic game.

But, I think it would be an amazing addition to put new shields in the game. Sonic 3 & knuckles brought about 3 new shield power ups, it would be great to see new ones in Sonic 4.

Posted by Ryan on February 5th, 2010 at 3:43 am

Comment # 706

SEGA said that announced this game as being developed for the oldschool fans.

You can read it many, many times on the blog.
Just ctrl+F and type oldschool..

This game is for us, old school fans.
Then sonic should be oldschool style too.
You can’t deny that.

If you are a next-gen fan, then play you next-gen games.
You probably won’t wait 15 years for another next-gen game.

But we are waiting 15 years since the last old school game.

Please, just this time let us play our oldschool game with our chubby hero.
Please.

Posted by Slow the Snail on February 5th, 2010 at 4:28 am

Comment # 708

Oldschool Sonic as optional would be better than nothing, but is just not fair.

It’s like having megaman X as the main character on megaman 9 and the classic megaman as optional.

Better than nothing, but really weird.

Posted by Slow the Snail on February 5th, 2010 at 4:38 am

Comment # 710

when I watched the trailor im like “this is it hes returning in his own series’ but nope heres prokipine man we even gave him a gay running animation and we arnt going to make sence and stamp it sonic 4 as a classic I mean wtf……

Posted by John on February 5th, 2010 at 4:45 am

Comment # 712

The Trailer was good till 2010 if you cant fix these consistencys and ruing animation then screw this game even sonic runs through a badnick glitches already wtf JUST ONE GAME WITH THE CARTOONY CLASSICS we suffered for 11 years just to see prokipine man make it in the classics title this is bull shit

Posted by John on February 5th, 2010 at 4:47 am

Comment # 714

classic sonic is ftw i dont want modern sonic to take over the whole series I mean come o this is so gay

Posted by John on February 5th, 2010 at 5:06 am

Comment # 716

Had anyone else noticed that the running sprite used in the trailer when showing Sonic 2 was the swirling leg sprite that was used in the prototype and never used in the retail release!

Wonder if SEGA realised they’d used the wrong sprite! Lol

Posted by MaGNeTiX on February 5th, 2010 at 5:13 am

Comment # 718

are they calling him Dr Robotnik or Dr Eggman. Old school fans know his as ROBOTNIK

Posted by Frank Homolka on February 5th, 2010 at 5:24 am

Comment # 720

Also Sega, please clarify this. Is this a reboot or a legit return to the classics? Cause if its latter, its out of place cause the overall character presentation needs retooling to the style of the Genesis games.

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 5th, 2010 at 5:40 am

Comment # 722

A Homing Attack.
I don’t believe it.
Why couldn’t you just keep your mouths shut, Sega? I was looking forward to this game, then you had to come and ruin it.
Momentum based physics? Yeah right. This Homing Attack will break the game and you know it.

Why did you lie to us?
You promised classic gameplay!
I guess I shouldn’t have gotten my hopes up. This is going to become another Unleashed, another Shadow the Hedgehog, another 2006.

How can you not understand the slightest bit of what made the old games good?

Posted by Dix on February 5th, 2010 at 5:51 am

Comment # 724

@Ricky

I just played through S3K with every character, and I still enjoyed Sonic’s playthrough the most. Insta-shield is a vastly underrated ability in terms of destroying enemies, preventing damage, and taking on bosses.

Knuckles and Tails may have the advantage when it comes to exploration, but utilizing these abilities creates a dramatic drop in speed. Certain levels MAY be completed in a shorter amount of time by taking advantage of this, but the thrilling sense of momentum is completely lost in doing so. While you may have a point about Sonic lacking natural abilities, the shield abilities are a lot more fun than flying and gliding around at a snail’s pace, and add a whole new layer of depth to the simple run-and-jump formula. They’re also a lot more useful in some cases, and every single one of them is capable of helping keep the breakneck momentum of a skilled player.

His Hyper form’s special ability (which is essentially the homing attack, minus the homing part) is by far the most useful, and the most fun.

All in all, I think Sonic has the upper hand in every department. On paper, he may look gimped in comparison, but in practice he is every bit as superior as one would hope from the title character.

Some of your other complaints could possibly be addressed with the next taste of gameplay footage. The people (like me) who are jumping down the throats of the naysayers are mostly just saying “Look, we’ve seen like two seconds of gameplay, and have had very little said about what will and will not be included”.

People are saying this game is fail before they even know what it looks like. All we saw was a teaser. Not even a trailer, but a freaking TEASER. The point was not to showcase the “wheel run”, the physics, or the gameplay. It was more or less to show off the gorgeous visuals (whether you are a fan of the style or not), and give us a TASTE, a mere taste, of what the game is shaping up to look like.

For all we know at this point, the game could be terrible, or it could be the miracle we’ve all prayed for. It may not be the 16-bit fanservice dick-suck that some people assumed “a return to the roots” would entail, but it’s still far too early to be written off so easily. That’s what upsets people like me, seeing so-called Sonic fans treating Sega (and Sonic) with such ignorant disrespect.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 6:09 am

Comment # 726

Some things are not what we all were expecting.
I didn’t expect 3D models, I expected HD sprites, much like a project on DeviantArt, Sonic Beyond. The models are not that bad, though. On the levels it actually looks cel-shaded, translated, like the old-school sprites.
His running animation is weird, but it still doesn’t leave anything clear about the gameplay. Anything may come next. I’d like to see Sonic’s feet spinning like a wheel, but if that doesn’t appear, I’ll naturally have to look at the other things I’m actually glad for in Sonic 4.
There is homing attack, but I kinda like it in Sonic Rush, except it would be cooler if the button was the same as the jump. Hyper Sonic had a similar move, as ChaoticFox said, so I think adding the homing attack is actually pretty good. If it is used in some parts of the level where it’s really necessary, and put to good use, it will serve to make the run-through feel more rewarding. And, if I’m not wrong, there’s no boost! I like it in Sonic Rush, but want it to be only there and in Unleashed. For Sonic 4, I’d like to be able to accelerate only by running and using the jump-dash. Thanks for not adding the boost, SEGA.

Posted by Tiago J7 Monteiro on February 5th, 2010 at 6:48 am

Comment # 728

What if the other character IS classic Sonic?

Just thought I’d throw it out there.

Posted by Starlight Rage Zone on February 5th, 2010 at 7:00 am

Comment # 730

How SONIC 4 came to be.

Sega Employee – “So uh…yeah…whats with Capcom and Nintendo lately? Remaking their classic titles and all. They seem to be pleasing the fans! Maybe we could do that with Sonic!”

Sega CEO – “Hmm youre right! But I wonder what Sonic fans like! Lets start a viral marketing campaign to get user input!”

SE – “Sounds good to me!”

Months pass.

SE – “So it turns out fans actually want to see Sonic from 1991-1994! They love the old school Sonic games! Can you believe it!?”

CEO- “Really?! No way! Its settled! We will make a game similar to Sonic Advance/Rush with ugly 3d models and terrible running animation! Don’t forget the extra long dreadlocks and green eyes!”

SE – “Did you hear a word I just said? They love old scho—”

CEO- “What? Do you think we here at SEGA give a fuck what fans think? Youre fired.”

Posted by Dante on February 5th, 2010 at 7:13 am

Comment # 732

I was really hoping for a perfect match to the needlemouse logo. Oh well….
What I really wish for is for homing attack to be an elemental shield (magnet shield) or mapped to a different button to the jump.
That, and this game releasing for the PC.

Posted by RADEON on February 5th, 2010 at 7:52 am

Comment # 734

Why are my comments are being censored and not published?
Sonic game since 1992 then I have a basis to comment here all the games I had the Sonic games was a card to buy a video game

The staff group production are reading the opinions of those who follow the games of the character if it is to not do anything about another game that Sonic fans can let their best to abandon the project in a drawer in the office of Sega

It’s so simple you two series based on the Mega Drive and put stress not rely on good ideas so it is difficult to have a good Sonic game again in years

I hope that you have the humility to publish all comments positive and negative character who accompanies the more than 16 years

Posted by David on February 5th, 2010 at 8:19 am

Comment # 736

Okay first off:
All of you whiney little babies just SHUT UP about wanting CLASSIC SONIC BACK.
Sonic can’t go back in time and be ‘young’ again as he was over 10 years ago.
GROW UP.
At least SEGA is making a Sonic the Hedgehog 4, and not some Sonic 06-based game again.
At least SEGA actually thought about us old-school Sonic fans.

Stop being butthurt and MOVE ON. I’m sure they will fix the running animation.
IT’S NOT EVEN OUT YET.

Posted by PyrokineticFeline on February 5th, 2010 at 8:25 am

Comment # 738

@Chaoticfan:

I take your point about a few things. In Sonic 3&K, Sonic would probably still be the character of choice for the experts (although I still feel he’s lacking in natural abilities, seeing as he’s the main character of the series), and for me, his Hyper form is much better than those of the other characters, I agree.

I also realize that I’ve only seen two seconds of the game.

But my criticisms of Sonic 4 still stand. However, I will see what Sega does and try to judge them by their final product, which I hope improves significantly over these two seconds I’ve seen so far.

This will most definitely not be the game I’ve been hoping for for well over a decade (which will probably never come), but I guess I do have hope that it could at least be a good game.

Posted by Ricky on February 5th, 2010 at 8:39 am

Comment # 740

i would just like to say a few things i agree on people saying about the running animation that is pretty bad, we have seen 2 seconds of the game we cant judge it yet so stop moaning we cant have old school sonic, sonic grew up it wouldnt make sence also sonic has had a homeing attack since 1999 so getting rid of that would be getting rid of a part of sonic him self keep the homeing attack the game is great everything about it is great sega has done everything we asked for as the fan community so cant you all just be happy for once, im not trying to moan aboat it but it is annoying all sega are trying to do is make us happy so be happy =D GOOD WORK SEGA!!!!

Posted by blue streak on February 5th, 2010 at 8:59 am

Comment # 742

cuz newschoolers dont have a brai theyjust want to jack off to moremodern soic porno

Posted by John on February 5th, 2010 at 9:10 am

Comment # 744

There’s a big mistake in the “Intro” section of sonicthehedgehog4.com.

Knuckles’ story in Sonic 3 & Knuckles takes place after Sonic’s. In Sonic’s story the island is in the sea until the ending.

In Knuckles’ story the island is in the sky – the ocean in the background of Angel Island Zone Act 1 has been replaced with just blue sky, and it’s clearly in the sky (though slowly falling) in Sky Sanctuary Zone. The Death Egg is absent as a level and has also been completely removed from the background of Launch Base Zone, Lava Reef Zone and Hidden Palace Zone.

When Mecha Sonic is defeated in Sonic’s story he just collapses. It isn’t until Knuckles defeats Mecha Sonic that he explodes into pieces.

And finally, when you complete Sonic & Knuckles with Sonic and all 7 Chaos Emeralds after the credits you see one lone Egg Robo rising from the wreckage. When you complete Knuckles’ story with all 7 Chaos Emeralds there is no such counterpart: http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/genesis/b/s&k.htm

Posted by Lee H on February 5th, 2010 at 9:17 am

Comment # 746

Man, if the original Sonic the Hedgehog were released today had been released today instead of 19 years ago, I bet people would have been bored to tears by the lack of speed.

If Sonic 2 had been released as a sequel, there would be mass outrage because of the addition of Spin Dash.

When Sonic 3 came along, people would be threatening suicide because the model changed.

After Sonic & Knuckles, people would be calling it episodic bullshit and fail marketing. Too many characters!!!

If Sonic CD were released today, people would have murdered babies because the true Spin Dash animation was removed, started riots over the changed soundtrack (as well as the fact that it was no longer 16-bit music in the first place), and proclaimed the death of Sonic and the downfall of Sega for the unnecessary and unwarranted time travel “gimmick”.

Don’t even get me started about Spinball and Mean Bean Machine.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 9:24 am

Comment # 748

Damn me for not editing that first sentence properly XD

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am

Comment # 750

@ChaoticFox

I wonder why none of that happened?

Perhaps back then, although the Internet existed and people were able to use it the same way we do now, they didn’t see their ability to express their opinion to others as an invitation to look a gift horse in the mouth and rant about everything they personally saw wrong about it.

That, or they still understood that Sonic was just a game, that gameplay is the heart of a game, and that the time they spent having fun was worth more than how the game *looked*. Fans back then were assured of their worth as fans simply because they each found their individual niche in how they enjoyed the games.

People nowadays are extremely judgemental and prejudiced and for no good reason, other than to make themselves sound more important in order to feel more important. They make hateful comments and rude remarks because it gets them more attention than if they talk about what they like about something. Perhaps they feel like they might as well flame rather than just be flamed. In the end, half the fandom feels made like idiots, feels rejected and hurt, and the Sonic egregor dies a little on the inside, just because of a few zealots.

Posted by Gryphon on February 5th, 2010 at 9:49 am

Comment # 752

Let’s be honest, you need a new running animation, but Sonic’s model looks great!
WARNING! NITPICKING UP NEXT!
Sonic looked slow when it said 2010. But a braking animation would be nice.

Looking forward to it yadda yadda yadda. Good Luck!

Posted by Dan on February 5th, 2010 at 9:55 am

Comment # 754

The phrase “spoiled rotten” comes to mind.

Not by Sonic Team, of course, but by the media industry in general.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 9:57 am

Comment # 756

@Dante
I agree
At the end of the day this game is gonna play like Sonic Rush, which was ok-ish, but it still wasn’t the same as the old games, the level design wasn’t as good, controls not quite as tight, bosses awful, no super sonic in levels, wrong music…etc
People defending the game may well be dissapointed

Posted by Snowy10r on February 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am

Comment # 758

@Snowy.

I still don’t see where people are comparing this game to Rush, apart from featuring a similar graphical style.

Rush’s gameplay is ENTIRELY about the boost feature (and to a lesser extent, the dual screens), both of which will be absent from this release – suck or not.

You’re right in that the people defending this game may very well be disappointed. But the reason we’re defending it right now is because we’ve been offered so little information that the people who are crying foul over a model change in a teaser still in it’s beta stages could just as likely be SURPRISED with how good the game has a chance of being.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, just because this isn’t the fanservice wet dream some people were hoping for doesn’t mean it won’t be a great game and couldn’t potentially be a worthy successor to the classic Sonic line.

Citing graphical differences as the primary reason that the game cannot be a “true sequel” is just plain ridiculous!

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 10:06 am

Comment # 760

@Gryphon.

Maybe because they didn’t say “Hey Sonic Adventure picks up right off where 3D Blast left!”

Sonic Adventure was the beginning of a whole new generation of Sonic. It was the first REAL 3D Sonic adventure… do I even NEED to explain this to you?

And changes between the sprites is NOT the issue here, and you know it. I haven’t implied that people are stupid, only that they IGNORE SOLID FACTS.

It’s funny how you don’t go back to the perfect comparisons of Megaman Classic and Megaman X, yet you nitpick about Sonic 1 sprite change to Sonic 2 which is nowhere near bad because the reference model is still the same. (Classic Sonic).

In other words… keep New-Sonic in his OWN timeline. And it’s not about the appearance, it’s about the whole attitude. The whole CAST’s attitude has been completely altered, and that’s what some of us don’t want to see… in a game which has classic EVERYTHING except the characters.

Posted by Tearror on February 5th, 2010 at 10:07 am

Comment # 762

If you prople are gonna sit here and say you hate it, it suckes and all that just stop being a sonic fan, im sick and tierd of hearing you people complain when we havent seen enouph to know what it will be like.

Posted by Chuck on February 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am

Comment # 764

And if they do I hope they don’t over do somethings you know what I’m saying.

Posted by Sora on February 5th, 2010 at 10:53 am

Comment # 766

Part II:

Our disappointment comes from the fact that Sega doesn’t listen to us and makes the same mistakes over and over again. If they do take what we say somewhat seriously, they find a way to water it down. Whoever is happy with the admittedly 2 seconds of Sonic 4 they’ve seen can be happy. And I’m happy for you. But at the same time, I’m fully aware that a REAL 2D HD Sonic would be loads better.
http://www.teamteabag.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-hd.jpg

And those who don’t ever criticize Sega are making sure that the perfect Sonic game never comes. For those who say things are “good enough”, then I’m glad that your deepest desires can be so easily satiated. But you should know that there is more that’s possible. And what is possible will never come true if you fawn over lazy “good enough” stuff.

Even the fact that Sonic 4 (even as it is now) is being made in the first place is testament to the power of complainers. To all those who are really looking forward to Sonic 4, make sure to thank those who have complained about the 3D games. And if Sega ever makes a true 2D Sonic game again with classic Sonic, make sure to thank us again – for without us, these would probably never be made.

Posted by Ricky on February 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am

Comment # 768

@Chuck: Agreed I think this is why most people don’t get in to Sonic cause of stuff like this.

Posted by Sora on February 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am

Comment # 770

@Ricky: Well I do have many dislikes of what Sega has done to Sonic in the past, and I do know that they can do much much better than they have but some helpful criticism would be nice intend of just bashing them about how much they screw up, hell I have high hopes for this game and I want them to get it right but I’m seeing more complaints than suggestions. :/

Posted by Sora on February 5th, 2010 at 11:14 am

Comment # 772

my god, are you newbs actually saying sega dosent listen to us? its your fault sonic got messed up in the first place! all the pissy pants fanboys were screaming out for a shadow the emo hedgehog game they got it. they were screaming out for more and more new characters they got it. so newbs shut up. sonic 4 is exactly what the franchise needs. well that and to quit listening to you stupid newbs.

Posted by sonichedgehog45 on February 5th, 2010 at 11:21 am

Comment # 774

If anything, They should stick with Sonic, Tails and Knuk for now if they are going to keep doing the old Sonic style.

Posted by Sora on February 5th, 2010 at 11:30 am

Comment # 776

And what I meant by old Sonic style is just the characters and game play with the homing attack in as well just make sure it isn’t like broken like It was in Shadow the hedgehog XD;
And I’m not saying I like all Sonic game trust me Sonic 06….. I almost cried cause I thought Sega was going to really going down hill like that but Sonic and the Secret rings gave me hope, it was a bit off but they got the scene of speed right in that game and Sonic Unleaded, just one thing with me was the Wearhog and that was it. I really hope they read these.

Posted by Sora on February 5th, 2010 at 11:43 am

Comment # 778

@ChoticFox:
“But maybe it’ll be a great deal of fun, and THAT is what Sonic is about.”
*slow claps*

Posted by Jaysonic on February 5th, 2010 at 11:59 am

Comment # 780

Whys everyone complaining that this isnt the sonic they used to know!? Im happy with this,this is probably gonna be as close as we can get to it for appealing to both old school and new sonic fans.

Posted by Patience on February 5th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

Comment # 782

@ChaotixFox
Maybe it will surprise us all, but the look of it (brief yes) suggests it’s going to play and feel like the modern titles, which all lack te charm and playability of the originals.
I mean come on that eggman appearance at the end looked truely awful, where’s the design flair gone?

Posted by Snowy10r on February 5th, 2010 at 12:40 pm

Comment # 784

I wonder if SEGA is still taking fan-art.

In that case, I give you Classic Sonic’s little nitpick.

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/i/2010/036/c/1/90__s_Sonic_snaps_by_Diegichigo.jpg

I made it for fun. <3

Posted by Tearror on February 5th, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Comment # 786

@Snowy.
I probably hate the Eggman design more than anyone, so I know what you mean. Even if this game is great (which I still expect it to be), it IS true that it will probably not truly compare to the original Genesis games. Although that is quite possibly at least partly the fault of permanently fastened nostalgia goggles.

After playing the original series all week this week, I don’t really think we’ll ever see games like that again. Just like we’ll probably never see another Casa Blanca or (dare I say it?) Citizen Kane. The entire market and industry have changed, for better or worse, and no amount of foot-stomping is going to bring it back.

Granted, this game probably could have been better if it HAD been a 16-bit re-creation of the classic style, but that doesn’t mean ALL the playability and charm is lost. It looks as though it’s shaping up to be a faithful return to a great deal of the “playability and charm” we’ve been missing, even if it has been somewhat updated to match a newer visual style.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

Comment # 788

Something like this would be great for Sonic 4

Posted by Alviataylor on February 5th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Comment # 790

@Everyone acting like SEGA isn;t listening because they choose modern Sonic: You have to realise how split this fanbase is. Sure, there are a ton of people who want old school Sonic back, but there are also just as many people (if not, more) who want hime to keep his newer design. Hell, I know a ton of old school fans who prefer his newer design. No matter what SEGA chose, there would have been complaining. They probably choose to stick with his newer design because it’s his most modern design that’s well known among people and also because they just want to keep his design consistant for once (instead of changing in every game).

But we’re all Sonic fans here. We all love us some good old school Sonic gameplay, which this game promises to deliever. Why can’t we all just rejoice that they’re FINALLY making Sonic 4? Everywhere I look, the general gaming media is loving how this game is coming out (including sites that have generally hated the recent games, such as GameSpot and Kotaku). Why can’t we, a bunch of Sonic fans, do the same?

Posted by Ruan on February 5th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

Comment # 792

@All the people in here simply telling the old fans to ‘get over it’:

Uh, perhaps the reason people want the oldskool Sonic is that this game is supposed to be a return to Sonic’s roots. Y’know, Sonic 4. As in, the game after Sonic 3/Sonic & Knuckles. As in, sequel to the classic games which featured classic Sonic. Really not that hard to grasp why people are a bit dissapointed, is it?

Instead of telling people to ‘get over it’, why don’t you try and post something constructive instead of acting like shallow trolls (I know a small amount of people are being constructive about this, but this is aimed at the stupid ‘JUST GET OVER IT YOU CRYBABIES’ majority crowd)? The people wanting the old Sonic have, for the most part, posted constructive reasons for this. Reasons such as ‘it messes up the continuity’, which it blatantly DOES. Most people just want the OPTION to play as the classic Sonic, not the complete removal of the new Sonic from the game. So answer me this – why would that offend you new fans so much?

Posted by Bad Wolf on February 5th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

Comment # 794

@ Eric

Don’t call it Sonic The Hedgehog 4 then.

What Sega should have done was as it’s Sonic’s third decade now and with this release (the biggest in years for Sega) they could have combined old Sonic with new at the very least.

But no we’re stuck with surfer Sonic he looks so out of place and it looks like he’s farting as well lol

Posted by SonicSALES on February 5th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

Comment # 796

I don’t have to see 3 seconds of game footage to automatically know it fails in execution, since this game was targeted to the old schools fans and using a Next Gen Sonic in the original universe doesn’t gel. When a game titled Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is released, we expect it to go back to its Genesis roots in the vein of that same style. If this had a totally different name, I wouldn’t have an issue it with it, but the fact is that Sega originally marketed this game to the Genesis fans and they ALMOST had it. I feel that the next gen Sonic is invading Sonic’s past and he just doesn’t belong in the same category as the original numbered games.

For fun, heres my version of how the Sonic 4 logo should look:

http://i50.tinypic.com/oqhf7n.jpg

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 5th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

Comment # 798

@ A Knothole Resident not bad – I’d like to know why his hand is sooooo big ????!!!

Posted by SonicSALES on February 5th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

Comment # 800

@ Gryphon

“badgered the hell out of SEGA demanding that they make it.”

I doubt that is the real reason………..a little plumber has been doing well of late in this genre!

Posted by SonicSALES on February 5th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

Comment # 802

About what old school fans (me included) don’t like: I guess sega didn’t have that much time to make the video, and they also wanted to see our reaction.
The sonic model is the same form recent 3D games, so there’s no innovation here, where really should be -I think they won’t be making Sonic 4 out of a well-known, over-exploited 3D model. Also, the physics look pretty basic, the dirt thing is exaggerated. The image and feel is quite overlooked.
Those details we’ve seen, make us think that it won’t be up the series. But I expect them to deliver something better in time. I hope so, since my expectations on the game are very high!

Posted by LehonardEuler on February 5th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

Comment # 804

I’ve been a fan following Sonic since Sonic 1 and when Sonic Adventure rolled around with the new designs for ALL characters, I accepted it. It’s been over 10 years and honestly, people who are still complaining about it can’t be fans, they have to be people who haven’t played Sonic since the genesis and are stuck up about their nostalgia for that design/era. There’s nothing wrong with that, but give it up. If this game of all games in the last 10 years isn’t going to change his design back to the way it was it never will change back. Face it.

Robotnik instead of Eggman? That’s at the very least possible since it won’t be affecting the Japanese releases (ever think about how they and the rest of the world want Sonic to look like?) so keep hoping for that if you want, but changing Sonic’s design along with everyone else’s isn’t happening. Yeah all you “fans”, what about changing Robotnik/Eggman’s design back too? What about Amy, Tails and Knuckles? Changing all those back after 10 years of the new designs? Not happening. So stop bitching about trivial eye colours and give feedback on how you want the game to PLAY which will actually impact enjoyment and sales. If you were a fan of Sonic at all you’d want his games to be more popular and his modern design vs classic isn’t going to matter, what matters is how the game plays. If this game turned out better than Sonic3&Knuckles or Sonic CD but you won’t buy it because it’s not the design from over 10 years ago then you’re not even remotely a fan and SEGA would be making a mistake giving a damn what you think.

An option to change between classic and modern designs for all the characters? That’s possible! Except for the fact that it’s going to take time away from making the game better, along with the fact that if they do it for this game they’ll have to do it for the next one. And the next one. And the next one. And the next one.
I’d rather have a better game than pander to people who haven’t given a damn about Sonic and have probably sworn off him for years now so they can have some nostalgia for the design when it should be the GAMEPLAY that’s supposed to give them nostalgia.

And now on to the actual trailer of all things:
The Sonic 2 beta sprite and badly animated Sonic 3 sprite put me off initially, can’t deny it, it’s a small nitpick but it took me out of the experience somewhat. Was hoping for more than 3 seconds of footage but nevertheless I got to see the direction Sonic 4 was heading and I couldn’t have been more pleased with what I saw. I haven’t been thinking in my head too much about what a Sonic 4 would look like but I had a general idea based on previous games of what I hoped to see. You guys completely nailed it. And I’m not talking about the Green Hill Zone checkered ground and whatnot giving me nostalgia. I’m talking about how everything looks shiny just like the old Sonic games and it looking pre-rendered was a good way to do that. How the backround scrolls and looks oldschool, but looking up close you can see the insane detail in the trees and clouds. Sonic being cellshaded to top it off. I’m convinced you guys have nailed it, you’ve got a perfect mix of 16 bit style and modern graphics. I love it, it couldn’t look better in my eyes and I can’t wait to see more of this zone and others.

As for gameplay and level design, I haven’t really seen anything to give me any impressions about either so I obviously can’t comment yet. Homing attack? As long as you keep it optional and not required to get across gaps it should be fine. As for Sonic’s running animation, I know he wasn’t running at full speed in the trailer but I’m hoping when he does he runs spinning his legs like in Sonic 1-3&K, Sonic CD and Sonic Advance (although I didn’t like Advance’s run as much.) If Brawl could do Sonic’s run in 3D I’m hoping Sonic 4 can too.

Posted by Beefood on February 5th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

Comment # 806

I’m still not remotely excited about that game. All SEGA has done so far is hype and hype and hype and tease us with the following facts:

1. It’s in 2D (OMG! Just what we wanted!)
2. Only Sonic is playable (OMG! Just what we wanted!)
3. It will recycle the classic badniks (OMG! Just what we wanted!)
4. TADA! It’s called Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (OMG! Just what we wanted!)

Me: That’s all fine and well, SEGA. But what does the game actually look like?
SEGA: Oh… er… Well, here’s 2 seconds of gameplay…
Me: What was that? I didn’t see it! Play it again…

Honestly! Everybody thinks it’s going to be awesome just because of that. How do we know the game won’t turn out to be a broken piece of dung like Sonic GBA?

Simply having it called Sonic 4 isn’t going to make it a good game!
Simply having it 2D isn’t going to make it a good game!
Wait until you’ve played it or seen a substantial amount of gameplay first!

Right, I’m done moaning…

Posted by sphereballs on February 5th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

Comment # 808

I hope Sega update the model inspired with old and new for Sonic’s 20th!

Posted by SonicSALES on February 5th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Comment # 810

Yeah… I just sense there are OTHER kinds of crybabies dominating this blog now. XD

LehonardEuler is on something here. I also believe the teaser was nothing but a mock up with recycled content from other games, and was made just to show us… well, just the spiraling path actually.

I’m also confident that the game content will change dramatically later on, when there’s ACTUAL content to show.

As long as it FEELS like a S3&K sequel. I’m game. (But it WOULD be the appropiate thing to do, to have the classic characters, since there’s about classic everything else).

Posted by Shihe on February 5th, 2010 at 2:28 pm

Comment # 812

Never anywhere did SEGA ever say this was for old school fans. I’m assuming people got that vibe because of the return to classic gameplay,and the project needlemouse logo etc.but no, they NEVER once said that.and i’m not a new age sonic fan either. I’ve played all of them from Sonic 1 – SA2(All of the good ones) I personally didn’t care which model they used but all of this whining and bickering is just too much for something so little,I know it’s been said already but look at Mario? does he look the exact same in new super mario bros wii as he did in the original super mario bros? no, is the gameplay like the original? yes, is it 2.5d? yes is it a good game? yes.enough of that now. THIS IS SONIC 4. this as a reply to SonicSALES mario doesn’t look the same way he did in Mario 2 or Mario 3 or Super Mario World, But they’re all apart of the same series. so just because sonic doesn’t look like he did in the 90′s doesn’t mean this isn’t Sonic 4

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

Comment # 814

I’m rolling my eyes so hard they’re going to fall out.

It’s funny… I remember someone posting on the contest thread (the one that broke the blogs) that once Needlemouse was revealed, we would probably break the entire internet.

I know this blog didn’t get nearly the same amount of traffic (go figure, no free stuff!), but in some ways I feel like that person was more right than he knew. Something definitely feels broken right now…

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 2:33 pm

Comment # 816

Typo, i meant to say isn’t catered to one crowd, not is

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

Comment # 818

@ Eric

You’ve counted 3 so far……………

Anymore and then fans like myself won’t even give this the time of day. Sega shouts old school 2D game………we listen……..but not for long…………

Posted by SonicSALES on February 5th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

Comment # 820

Oh my… I want to… oh my oh my I shouldn’t…. Many more will cry…

Japan Official Site

No video, no content, only untasty information. But…
You can here what will probably be the Title Screen theme.

Enjoy, or continue complaining. ^_^

Posted by Hikari on February 5th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

Comment # 822

I Hope This Is On Two Playres Sega.

Posted by Shawndell Rivers on February 5th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

Comment # 824

Petition signed!!!
Evendough current design is cool, I must admit that a retro sonic dessign would be really awesome!!! PLz!! -.-

Posted by Kirs on February 5th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

Comment # 826

I already new eggman was his original japanese name, i’m counting 3 errors as far as the complaints from alot of the people here, there not problems in my opinion.

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

Comment # 828

well i like the like the old design as much as the next guy but i mean there really i sent that much of a thing to argue over i prefer the newer one because it looks better and i mean this is 2010 you ppl are whining about the old look being better forget it go build a shrine if you want take a picture too Sega is trying to move forward. they have already went back to there roots in this game whats the difference if there’s a short chubby headghog or a taller skinny one.

Posted by Shadonic on February 5th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

Comment # 830

@Hikari

I love that the Japanese website is so much more stylish and fluid. It feels more well designed in literally every way.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

Comment # 832

@SALES

4 PLAYER MAYHEM!

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

Comment # 834

@ sonicSALES none of that stuff is even important. i’m really starting to hate the majority of the sonic fanbase more and more, they finally give all of you what you’ve been whining for classic gameplay sonic, for so long, and you tear it apart with little knowledge of how the game is going to play out, since it says it’s coming out this summer meaning atleast another 3-4 months of development. comparing this to other recent sonic games everyone should be rejoicing, but now i see alot of you are just whiny brats and idiots that cry and complain when they don’t get what they want exactly how they want it down to the last minuscule unimportant detail.I really don’t understand how after seeing 3 seconds of what’s much more than likely beta gameplay. so many people throw fits. That’s pretty damn ungrateful.

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

Comment # 836

aside from that i have nothing more to say and doubt i changed any minds but i felt i had to say it and on another note . why would sonic be multiplayer beyond 2? now that would be something to complain about, it would slow the gameplay down considerably.

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

Comment # 838

i am just saying in the 4 player thing it would be kind of cool in a different game
like in a 2D sonic battle similar to the one on the GB but in the classic sonic style
with machinics similar to the download game dishwasher on the 360 i played the demo it was epic with the slow motion attack effects.

Posted by Shadonic on February 5th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

Comment # 840

For the record: I’m pretty sure he was kidding about 3 players, and I know for a fact that I was XD

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Comment # 842

It’s not the playable character they don’t like it’s how he looks ITS STILL SONIC people can delude themselves all they want but the fact is as of late this is how sonic looks.and there isn’t even anything wrong with how he looks now,

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

Comment # 844

@ Eric

It isn’t…… to so many people this isn’t even close to the Sonic they fell in love with all those years ago. Mario has changed over the years but nothing compared to this. Sonic looks like a cross between Nights and Knuckles……..

Posted by SonicSALES on February 5th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

Comment # 846

@chaotic fox; agree with you there, don’t think new games can match the nostalga factor, but i think most ppl would say sega aren’t doing as good a job with their flagship franchise as they should be

Posted by snowy10r on February 5th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

Comment # 848

THE REAL SONIC 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3-I_PMf5-c

AND THE REAL LOGO :
http://i50.tinypic.com/oqhf7n.jpg

Posted by George on February 5th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

Comment # 850

no…… no he doesn’t. if you wanna go that way mario now looks NOTHING like his original counterpart and there’s no way around that everyone can plainly see that’s a fact

I’m gonna be blunt and straight forward with this.Aiming this towards people complaining in general not anyone in particular. all of you saying you want the original sonic model, stop living in the past you will most likely NEVER.. EVER see that used in a main stream sonic game as the main model(note i said main, maybe as alternate or something i don’t know) from here on out. all you old school fans are being selfish. VERY VERY F***ING selfish.what you want isn’t all that matters. just because you grew up with the original sonic games doesn’t mean you get more say over what goes in the game than anyone else, heck to be honesst none of us has control over that no matter how much of a fan we are, that’s sega’s decision.Just think about it like this. you had the sonic in your child hood, kids now have sonic for their childhood.the gameplay you all wanted so badly is back again and sonic is making his comeback now.do people just completely disregard gameplay now? does that not matter? i remember in back when we played games for FUN not how they looked.and we didn’t nitpick either(lol, i sound old when i’m not).

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

Comment # 852

Sonic and a platform game simple and fast and it good because it is so classic not matter how old he has what would seem that this will be a Sonic 4 Sonic Advance + Sonic Rush

And much to ask follow the base of the season winning the Mega Drive? so simple and so practical

Posted by David on February 5th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

Comment # 854

@ George people like you are exactly who i’m referring to. if you hate this game so much, and are saying crap like this isn’t the real sonic 4 instead of crapping your pants for what you’ll never get, and don’t deserve anyway go play the originals and enjoy those, and leave the REAL SONIC 4 and all the people who actually care about it alone.

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

Comment # 856

I’m sorry, SEGA, but Blue Emerald has a point. It can’t be called Sonic 4 without the running-wheel animation. You have to give Sonic that animation when he runs. You have to add that little detail while you still can.
Also, please, no voice-acting. If you really want to call this game Sonic 4, and start the story after the events of Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and since the codename was Project Needlemouse, there has to be no voice-acting and Sonic’s feet must move like wheels again.
You have to live up to the expectation you gave us right when you said “Project Needlemouse”.

Posted by Tiago J7 Monteiro on February 5th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

Comment # 858

and by the way they already said the story events start after sonic 4

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

Comment # 860

what’s with all my typos lately >_> i mean they start after sonic 3 and knuckles

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

Comment # 862

I gotta say this guy knows what hes talking about.

Comment # 846

Well well, Sonic 4 is actully comming out!!!! So flipping happy. Tho, I find alot of critisism. Like Sonic’s eyes being green

or the 2.5D/3D thing.and the episode 1 thing. Crazy stuff.

First off, I would like to say that eye color has nothing to do on how a game is played. nethier will the look of his size or

weight. It’s still sonic man.

And the 2.5D/3D stuff is just how the game looks. its not a 3D game. it’s played like the Sega Gen games. so whats the

problem.

Look at these pics:

“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/Sonicseyes2D.png”

“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/sonicrun2D.png”

“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/greeneyesoverblk1.png”

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/greeneyesoverblk2.png

Tho I would like to have a 50 stage- 2 acts each (not short stages) long game. becuz these short games are killing me. hoping

the episode thing is not for that. but if it is, then I hope to have 20 episodes XD

Also, there were people saying the would settle for sonic HD remakes. look at this:

“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/sonic2HDremakesmall.png small”

“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/sonic2HDremakebig.png big ”

When I saw the trailer, sonic did look a bit sluggish. But is still too soon to know anything. only 2-3 secs of gameplay. and

they are deffinitly not done. the windmill run is possible. but ethier way, as long as the gameplay is good I’m game. take at

look at these:

“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/sonicrun2D.png”
“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/screensnew.png”

Guys if this was just another sonic rush it would be this:

“http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/27027_sonic_rushwii.png”

ITS SONIC 4 GUys! BE HAPPY!!

2D sprites are good. but I think I automaticlly say that because Im a artist. I started drawing because of sonic. I really

wanted to create a games when I was little (specificly sonic games. which my plan was to get good and take the current artist

place or just kill the current artist at sonic team and take over….. tho that plan was a lil too much. so I decided to

create my own games)and the first thing that came to mind on how to build a game up was to draw eveything out first. I’ve

been with sonic since 1991 and I personaly like the modern sonic design. but its just another way he is drawn.

They could do a redesign again, but It might make the whole new sonic old sonic thing worst with fans by bringing a new 3rd

generation of sonic fans.

But I stress on this again, gameplay. gameplay. It’s gotta be good. With awesome bosses like:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/darkshortyoreo/greeneyesoverblk2.png”

He looks very awesome. but we could use some different attacks.

The sheilds could come into play really well. and someone said the idea of homming attack being a power up or with the

invicnable power up. homming attack can be useful. like making sonic do wall jumps up a wall, or just homming on enemies

upwards. and thats just thinking of stuff off the top of my head. its not a bad move. the flame sheild was like the first

homming attack type. i see no complaints there.

Please have water levels!!!!! I miss them soooooooooooo much!!!!!!!! The new games are horrible for water. in some games if

you touch water you die. not cool.

Super Sonic should return and be playable in every level. I miss that. Hyper sonic could make a comeback too. I really miss

him. plus, it could be cool to have Super sonic in a speacial zone.

homming attack
wall jumping
hops and dodging
slides
power ups

could add in some free running/parkour things in with abilitys. I always seen sonic as one of them since he runs. and it

would be twice as cool since he is uber fast. just crazy stuff

Seems like the xtra character might just be old school sonic.

WEll, all in all, it comes down to fun gameplay sega. Don’t forget that.

You have a HAPPY CUSTOMER HERE XD

@ChaoticFox, Agreed.

Gabe again,

I completely agree with this guy.. I Loved playing Sonic when I was little but I was always Tails lol.

Posted by Gabe on February 5th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

Comment # 864

Since the storyline follows Sonic 3 & Knuckles, a game from Sonic’s past, then the character models need to maintain their original design from that era. That was the whole purpose of this game when it was being marketed as a classic return. Using a character model that hasnt been seen in years, which could’ve been a refreshing comeback with its HD graphical upgrade. It doesn’t make sense why Sonic is all of sudden a few feet taller with green pupils in the same timeline as the Death Egg saga. If Sonic’s appearance was the byproduct of using the Hyper Emeralds, then Id like to see that incorporated somehow cause that would be a feasible explanation. Not only that, it would bridge the gap between the Classic Series and the Next Gen series, and provide some interesting backstory behind the character changes.

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 5th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

Comment # 866

It is becaus of retro fans sonic exists stilll today if the fans of the 90s didnt support the gam so much it would prob be canceled so eric your the one being selfish here the only thing u new skool feggits did to succss sonic is buy sheety games but people in the 90s they actually made sonic what he is today so stfu and eric btw your an anel ess feggit just like shadnic shadow fan loving p3rv3rted nerd go do ur shadow plushes in the butt more please?

Posted by John on February 5th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

Comment # 868

I’m not passing any final judgment of Sonic 4 until it comes out.

HOWEVER, this is just about the first time in a long time that Sega’s given us something that is legitimately a complete attempt at really bringing Sonic back to his roots. Instead of complaining about minute details, try to be somewhat appreciative. I can only imagine the people from Sega who announced a direct sequel to the original Genesis games reading the posts of people who are whining because of minute details despite the blatant aim at truly going back to Sonic’s roots for once.

I’m not saying we automatically have to like it just because of the attempt, but at LEAST try to avoid complaining about the game before it comes out.

Posted by Firus on February 5th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

Comment # 870

@ChaoticFox Actually, I wouldn’t complain. I’m all for graphical upgrades or even downgrades, ie Mega Man 9. So if Sonic 4 implemented the classic style of Sonic (short/black eyes), in either 2D, 16-bit HD, pixelated or 3D, it would be a perfect addition to the classic games cause his old design would be reflective of the previous Genesis games, which is what this game was originally advertised as. Again, CONSISTENCY, STRUCTURE, COHERENCY. I fail to comprehend why this argument is lost on most of you.

Its deceptive when Sega uses the classic Sonic design in conjunction with their viral marketing for the past 6 months, to reveal that its nothing as they lead us old school fans to believe. That is a cop out and I’m calling them out on it.

Plus Sega already announced that its the direct sequel to Sonic 3 & Knuckles. This indicates, that the game takes place shortly after the events of the Death Egg saga. A time when Sonic was small and beady eyed. So why screw up the timeline by throwing in a modern Sonic design?

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 5th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

Comment # 872

what i’m talking about starts at about 1:05

Posted by Eric on February 5th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Comment # 874

Dude. I get it. He looks better in the old style. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY admit that. I too hoped it would be classic Genesis era sprites. It WOULD have been the perfect addition to the series, NO QUESTION. But that’s just not how it’s gonna do down. And as cool as it would have been, it’s NOT a big deal.

Was it deceptive of Sega? Sure, I guess. Is it partially our own fault for superimposing our own fantasies on Sega’s vague teaser statements that never explicitly said “FEATURING THE OLD 16-BIT GRAPHICS YOU RETROFAGS HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET OVER”? Absolutely. I fell for it, same as you. The difference is that I can live with it. Because I know that graphics don’t make gameplay. I didn’t fall in love with Sonic because he had black beady eyes or because he was fat. I fell in love with his games because they was FUN, and I fell in love with his character because of the way it was developed by, ironically, non-canonical CARTOONS.

Saying that Sonic4 is NOTHING like they lead us to believe is bullshit. Graphical “consistency” is not a REQUIREMENT for a direct sequel, no matter at what point the events take place. Did you bitch and moan like this about Dark Knight just because Rachel Dawes was played by a different actress? Did they have to use a stupid storyline gimmick to explain the new look? No! That would have been retarded on every level.

Sega has delivered every one of it’s promises, even if that isn’t exactly in line with what we had wished said promises would entail. Again, maybe this isn’t the absolute best course of action for them to take, but at this point, throwing a tantrum about it isn’t going to do anything but make you look like a great big child.

It doesn’t screw up any timelines, all it does is shatter your fanboy fantasies. I understand why that can be upsetting, but crying foul and saying that the game isn’t “worthy” of being a sequel simply because it took a different artistic direction is… ugh. It’s literally just whiny, dude. I wish there were a better way of putting it, but there really isn’t.

Posted by ChaoticFox on February 5th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

Comment # 876

Everything will be forgiven if they make this game more epic than Sonic 3 & Knuckles. ;D

Can you top that SEGA?

Nah J/K, but do try to make this game as awesome as it’s prequel as possible. If there are THREE episodes in the works, I call ULTRA SONIC for Super Sonic’s third stage (Hyper Emeralds). ;D

Posted by Shihe on February 5th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

Comment # 878

i heard somethings from a video that that is not his running animation that is when he starts running ok and have any of you heard of the petition to change sonics model to the original like the ones shown in those pictures that just sounds stupid why is every one just nitpicking can’t they wait until they try it to start complaining about it they barley have seen any of the game.i mean your complaining about his eyes not being green seriously YOUR COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COLOR OF HIS EYES!come on people can’t you just enjoy it for once!

Posted by danny on February 5th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Comment # 880

eric oldschoolers dealt with new sonic for 11 years they arnt selfih they are sick of him they dont get a chance so stop being a sleifish hippocrate anyways sonic 4 is unplayable because modern sonics head is too big and hell fall over and all the glitches we wont be able to get past zone one and if retro fans didnt like sonic in the 90s new sonic wouldnt exist so if u dont admit that your an idiot

Posted by John on February 5th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

Comment # 882

i just want to say, sega, do NOT listen to all theses idiots complaining when all theve seen is 2 secs, of gameplay. keep doing what your doing and we will be happy that you make something classic

Posted by ninjaboyz101 on February 5th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

Comment # 884

Haha, that your response? XD
Just shows you ran out of things to say.

Posted by Ruan on February 5th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

Comment # 886

Sonic labyrinth is the best game anyways retard ur sucha freaking moron

Posted by John on February 5th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

Comment # 888

Something is seriously wrong here if Sega expects us to accept this as a legitimate title to follow directly after Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I’ve read similar comments on a number of sites who share my concern so I know I’m not alone on this. I know I may seem overly passionate about this franchise, but its because it symbolizes my childhood and its awesome that it still exists today. There’s alot of potential in this franchise and its depressing that its never well utilized as it was in the golden years. Sure I have my issues with the newer games, but so does everyone. No biggie. I brush it off cause I know its aimed for the newer fans.

However, when someone butters me up about a long awaited sequel to a game Ive waited 16 years for, that promises the same elements of its 90s counterparts (with subtle graphical enhancements/downgrades), then yeah, I expect that game to live up to the same quality and style of that period. Fact of the matter, is that it didn’t and that’s why I hold such grudge on this. Its been over a decade since I actually lavished so much attention on a Sonic game. Ever since that Project Needlemouse teaser was revealed, it had my attention due to the constant allusions of 2D comeback, usage of the Sonic 1 emblem silhouette, and classic Sonic sprites posted on Sega’s forum headers. The entire hype surrounding Sonic 4 was a major tease and I see it for how it really is. This was supposed to be the Sonic for us adults and it fails visually just by looking at that logo. We haven’t seen the classic Sonic since the 90s and I think its time surferquill finally sit this one out and let us retro fans have our fill for once…especially in a game entitled Sonic the Hedgehog 4.

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 6th, 2010 at 2:21 am

Comment # 890

i can’t fking wait

Posted by shigs on February 6th, 2010 at 5:29 am

Comment # 892

HEY SEGA? WAKE UP SONIC CYCLE AGAIN?
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/146/originalsd.jpg

Would love to work at Sega and tell them that everything simple and fun and makes success! other classic games like Outrun 2 and After Burner Climax show that.

Most expected a Sonic sprites in HD ok this is not necessarily required but we hope that the idea of classics such as Sonic 3 & Knuckles is fully trasport

Posted by Segapass on February 6th, 2010 at 5:56 am

Comment # 894

@ Shadic nice one

@ Eric and everyone else read this…………………

http://sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic-4-whats-in-a-name

Posted by SonicSALES on February 6th, 2010 at 6:31 am

Comment # 896

I know people will disagree with me but Sega, why not try a retro design for Sonic? One that will please BOTH the old & new fans at the same time? Can’t be that hard right? Like the Unleashed model but with a slightly larger belly (not too big) that is a little more sphere shape, legs that aren’t as short, & the quills a little shorter. Just saying in case the Unleashed model is NOT the final version of the sprite that we will see in the game.

Posted by Derek on February 6th, 2010 at 6:54 am

Comment # 898

great work b.t.w. sonic retro says the game is going to the i phone
please make it ds
but great so far

Posted by good work on February 6th, 2010 at 7:19 am

Comment # 900

i read the top sentences and stopped right there.you’re not changing your opinion, and neither am i, because this is just going to keep going in circles

Posted by Eric on February 6th, 2010 at 7:57 am

Comment # 902

eric ur a moron go play sonic labyrinth and see what i mean u loser

Posted by John on February 6th, 2010 at 8:26 am

Comment # 904

And sonic labyrinth is the worst POS to bare the sonic name i’ve ever seen out of the 90′s especially if you want to compare it to the good classic sonic games.classic sonic’s not perfect.

Posted by Eric on February 6th, 2010 at 8:34 am

Comment # 906

eric fuck u man sonic labyrinth was 3d had awsome puzzles gameplay and good controls and no glitchs its the best soic game out there and the boss battles are the most epic ur sucha freakig moron u need to play this game but u didnt sinc u listen to all the shitty reviews on utube they need to make sonic labyrinth 2 instead of sonic 4 ur sucha peice of shit

Posted by John on February 6th, 2010 at 8:58 am

Comment # 908

Peaople, there’s been 8bit Sonic, 16bit Sonic, 3D Sonic Adventures, 3D Sonic Heroes, Multiple portable Sonics, New generetion of 3D Sonics, and so on.
Why can’t we see that there are so many different Sonics, and if there’s a new game that goes “back to the roots”, it should stick to the older game styles?
There are plenty of series to satisfy the different fans. If this is focused to the old fans, then let it be like that -they’ve been waiting for 16 years!
Maybe, developing the game with an specific audience in mind will attract the new fans as well. But I doubt that making something for everyone would please anyone…

Posted by LehonardEuler on February 6th, 2010 at 9:01 am

Comment # 910

Super Sonic in normal stages please like in sonic 3 & knuckles, don’t mess the game by not including it sega, please…

Posted by David on February 6th, 2010 at 9:37 am

Comment # 912

That’s the thing. it’s not focused to the old fans solely. they said everyone was crying(not literally) for a new 2d game so they decided to make one. they never once said this was specifically for old school fans. that’s. If this game were intended entirely for the old fans then they would’ve used sonics older model. he’d have his original running animation( he still might. you don’t even know if that was him running at full speed in that 3 seconds of gameplay)and they would call eggman. robotnik. even though his original name was always eggman in japan…….

Posted by Eric on February 6th, 2010 at 9:53 am

Comment # 914

and I completely agree with #898

Posted by Eric on February 6th, 2010 at 9:57 am

Comment # 916

to also continue your arguments is that hes not a fat, blackeyed hedgehog running as super speeds. we already have a fat pluber we dont need a fat hedgehog. be a real gamer and accept it for what it is instead of crying faul. they never said it would be sonic regenisis, its 2010 for gods sakes. even the yunger fan base is being more mature than you. if you discredit it for only the appearence of sonic and the fact that its 2.5d then you cant even call yourself a true fan. your not being cunstructive, your flaming sonic because its not the way you want it to be. anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a fan boy, ever thing your just ignorant and hard to please. what ever happened to the days were you played a game because you enjoyed the content of it and graphics werent as big so long as it was fun. you people make me sick, if you cant program then jump off this blog because you cant even come close to reallizing the work and effort that is trully placed in making even a simple game. look at the code for a simple teteris game and see how long it is. were talking sonic. mario went back to basics but it kept marios new look and added charecters that could be playable. sonic is taking the same type of step. we got sonic back to the way it was ment to be 2d!!! similer game play and everything but your still not happy. sega doesnt have to do anything for us. so long as they secure the next gen thell be good for a time. once our gen gets too old we will no longer be in segas sights and those newbs will be there focus. sega is trying to max out its profits as any other buissness would do.
so read the facts
1.its not regenisis they never said it would be compleat retro sonic do-over
2. if you look at every little thing that you dont like and complain then your not a true harted gamer. your not being constructive your just being rood and ignorant (@john,king scourge,willy88)
3.if your not even going to try it then jump off aswell. your disregarding it for silly reasons. mario didnt go back to pixleation for its new appearence, he eturned as the modern mario with some more powerups and abillities.
conclusion: thoughs of you who are constant flamers of sonic should quit all together, you’ll never be happy with anything they present you. even if i were to make somthing similer to sonic 1 megamix and have sega publish it you still wouldent be happy no mater what. keep going sega your doing a great job, pay no attention to your flamers but listen to thoughs fans that maintain a level head and present there concerns but are not baligerent about it. thoughs who fought for a new sonic thats the way it was meant to be(side scrolrer) and will actually give sega a chance and are supporting segas start in a new and good direction. these are your true fands, not the ones that have claimed sonics death( because if thats the case than mario died a long time ag, as a mater of fact he died a few times). so keep going sega. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4!!!!!!!!!

Posted by axel on February 6th, 2010 at 10:23 am

Comment # 918

ps thoughs of you who are saying its not sonic are wrong. its like saying i wasent myself when i was yunger cuz i was shorter. seriously you try and do better

Posted by axel on February 6th, 2010 at 10:26 am

Comment # 920

also to adress the new sonic look, i like the old sonic just as much as the next of us but if again this is inbetween sonic 2d – 3d then maby we will find out why sonic chainged. ps. mario doesnt have much consistancy in that one day hes in the olylimpics then hes in outer space. things chainge, they didnt say its 2 seconds after the death egg saga. tere could have been a pritty long amount of time in between. you execces of myrid complaints give sonic a bad name, your mentallity is stubborn and unwilling to chainge and enjoy things the way they are in the present. its your type of mental stubbornnesss that is compairibe to alot of groupes out there(dareisaykkk). not that your like that but to an extent you must be willing to enjoy life and the things in life without being stuck in your ways(ie chainge a bit and see how things are, you may actually like it if you tryit).

Posted by axel on February 6th, 2010 at 10:40 am

Comment # 922

I don’t care what any of you say, you can complain about his model, running animation(that probably isn’t even full speed), and their choice for robotniks name all you want. but as long as the gameplay i liked so much ai back i’m set. you’re not sonic fans anymore you’re just obsessed fanboys

Posted by Reggie on February 6th, 2010 at 10:43 am

Comment # 924

if you look closely inside the words IN 2010 THE ADVENTURE CONTINUES in the teaser you can see sonic in the original special stage from sonic 1. or a revampedversion of it i can’t tell

Posted by Lazyknux on February 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am

Comment # 926

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=312594

if you want a source

Posted by Eric on February 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am

Comment # 928

You really should port that to the Dreamcast!!

Posted by Intourette on February 6th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

Comment # 930

mmm sega i like the game very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!but theres a problem why in sonic 4 sonic is going “running”,,,HE IS WALKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!you dont understand????why sonic is walking!!but well the game will be great

ooo yes waths the??????in the sonic 4 page its a new console or wath??

Posted by Sonicx17 on February 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

Comment # 932

HATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Sega Keep up the good work! don’t let the haters stop you from making a great sonic game!

Posted by Supakirb on February 6th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Comment # 934

want to play this

Posted by Sonic4Ever10 on February 6th, 2010 at 4:25 pm

Comment # 936

Something I found on a link provided above.

BY A FAN – NOT ME

The following is the opinion of a man who is conflicted and about a company that chose the wrong name. If you don’t want to read any negativity about Sonic 4 (or you don’t like to read), turn back now. If you’re going to read on, you’re going to read parts that you might agree with and parts that you might not agree with. So is the nature of opinion.

My first Sonic forum was Sonic Fan Games HQ and it is where I rose to the community status that I have today. My first administration job was there and it is also where I met a lot of people to get me in the position that I’m in today. SFGHQ is where I began development on Sonic Nexus, a project that I began because I did not think SEGA would provide another classic romp ever again. When college allows me to work on it, Nexus is my only gateway to an “all-new adventure.”

SFGHQ is also the home of many “Sonic 4″ fangames that have come and gone over the years. People have always dreamed of making the direct sequel to Sonic 3 & Knuckles and have either given up, lost interest, or have changed the name of their game to rid themselves of the high expectations that they have set for themselves.

SEGA is now guilty of setting their own bar too high.

I kid you not, there is a Sonic Retro wiki article for every pixel of this screenshot.

Before you stop reading the article to comment on how 3-seconds of gameplay cannot justify an opinion as critical as mine, I’ll remind you that classic Sonic fans only need a little to break down anything and everything within a single frame. Sites like Sonic Retro, SFGHQ, and Zone:0 exist for a reason. We have perfected analyzing every pixel, color, and motion in the classic Sonic games. If anybody’s going to not fall prey to the hype monster… it’s us.

You might say that we’re ungrateful for not being completely sold or hating what we have seen thus far of a project that Ken Ballough, SEGA’s brand manager, said is finally intended for us. In reality, are we really unappreciative for dogging on it?

The game is called Sonic the Hedgehog 4, a direct sequel to a trilogy made famous on perfection. We do not have ridiculously high expectations. When you name the game Sonic 4, it has to be perfection. If it’s not, you might as well piss all over my Genesis. SEGA PR giving reasons as to why I’m not pleased is making excuses for something undeserving of a title that they gave it. It’s not us… it’s them.

Isn’t “concept art” supposed to help conceive new ideas? I saw this spinning flower 19 years ago.

The original games are also built on creativity. Where one game came up short, the other expanded upon and surprised you with more. Sonic 2 introduced a spindash, another character, and Super Sonic. Sonic 3 had a “tropical green trope” zone to begin the game, but broke precedent and set it on fire almost immediately. Sonic & Knuckles introduced a playable Knuckles and lock-on technology, which even breathed new life into Sonic 2. The bar was raised whether you were prepared for it or not. With 3-seconds of a Green Hill rip-off and an Emerald Hill corkscrew, along with old badniks, Green Hill palmtrees and flowers, Sonic 4 currently does not surprise or rise above the three games before it.

The blatant rehashing of old materials is fangame quality at best. Even the story admits that this game will be bringing back “Eggman’s finest creations.”

Yes, “official fangame” is an oxymoron, but that’s what Sonic 4 looks like thus far: an average bit of fan-service that ultimately does not live up to its choice of name. Aside from the aforementioned “fangame n00b mistake” of a name, the game is rehashing old stuff and updating their looks to make it all seem “new.” For most of fangame creators, that is all we really do to make level art and badniks, since we lack the skill to sprite original things ourselves. Observe:

The art style of the classics is there in the trailer, but we saw Green Hill nearly two decades ago.

With the talk of art style also comes Sonic’s appearance and where the train really comes off the tracks. The pudgy, short-spined, black-eyed original doesn’t return. What a sequel to the Genesis games gets is the lanky, floppy-spined, green-eyed wannabe that has been romping around King Arthur’s court as a werehog with Shadow, Cream, Marine, Silver and the ruffles. I do not care about confusing the children and being consistent with Sonic’s modern design. The Sonic I knew has a spirit attached to him that no other character can match. Even a re-design of Sonic would have sufficed because, hey, we are rebooting, right? If the game was called something else, modern Sonic wouldn’t be an issue. However, the game is called “Sonic 4.”

The face of failure… or someone who just farted.

“Modern” Sonic’s appearance hit me the hardest. SEGA had lied to us.

They invoked the winged ring back on 9.9.09. They made a whole forum skin around the Genesis sprites. The “Hedgehog Day” flash ditty was classic Sonic coming out of a hole. Classic Sonic was coming back. Even the trailer had a classic Sonic retrospective! My hopes were dashed when the face of an underwhelming decade faded up at the end of the trailer. SEGA’s commitment to finally pleasing its original fanbase after sixteen years was a front.

Ken Ballough said it himself: Sonic 4 is our game. When a new Sonic game came out with 10 new characters and laser guns, we clamored for a return to form and SEGA has finally obliged. The kids have had their games and they were mediocre at best, most being the butt of jokes across gaming websites.

If Capcom can commit to classic Mega Man to the point of fully embracing its past by making awesomely bad box-art, then so can you, SEGA.

Here’s a fan’s altered “Sonic 4″ model. Looks like a winner to me.

Last week, I had chastised a few people at SFGHQ for an absurd amount of complaining over the Needlemouse contests and the eventual recycling of old badniks. My posts were along the lines of, “Shut up, you guys. Classic Sonic is returning. This is what we want! Can’t you be happy?”

Unfortunately, now I’m the one doing the complaining. What Sonic 4 appears to be isn’t what I want.

SEGA, you owe it to your legions of 20-something and older fans to make a change. Our commitment to you when we were still wetting beds in tacky windbreakers is why you are still around today. We defended you on the playground against those Mario-loving, Super Nintendo owning sons of bitches. We followed you to consoles that were complete failures.

Either change the name and respect what are still Sonic’s best games or fix what I saw in that trailer. I will not settle for anything less than perfection. We’ve been settling for a decade now. Provide throwbacks while expanding and innovating.

The time is now. The choice is yours, SEGA.

You might think I’m overreacting (hell, I think I am, too), but that is just how close the name “Sonic 4″ is to me. Again, if the name wasn’t “Sonic 4,” I would be completely sunshine smiles right now, but that’s not the case. There is a weight so heavy tied to “Sonic 4″ that I doubt anybody will ever be able to pick it up.

FROM ANOTHER FAN – NOT BY ME

I think that worrying about the looks and living up to expectations is something that never really happens. If this was going to be a perfect Sonic 4, then they would have to please only one part of the fans. What about the people who like the 3D games now-a-days? They would have to cater to the fans and they would have to listen to every detail. Besides, i think if how much ranting has gone on with barely any footage of the game itself, I think that SEGA should stop production on this game and make a squeal to Sonic ‘06 because people are assuming things from what we know, could be the greatest game ever made. But now, SEGA just might make this game even WORSE than Sonic ‘06 because they can’t have any freedom with Sonic at ALL. Seriously, I’ve played the classics, the 3D games, the GBA and DS games and what I can see is that the 3D games are for new age players and are too different from game to game to be coming from ideas from just the team themselves. The GBA and DS games are 2D and are great games and good games that have feelings of the classics. Yet, no one cares about those games as it seems. I see the appeal of the older games and I like them, but they are not my favorite because they are older games that don’t have the same game play feel of the GBA and DS games. The feeling of the crisp backgrounds makes me feel like I am actually in that area. This is just my opinion, but I just needed to get it out somewhere.

FROM YET ANOTHER FAN – NOT BY ME

I think that when people read the Sega was coming back with classic adventure, they expected a Sonic with 16 bits graphic, 16 bits music, maybe they we’re expecting a GENESIS game.

When I read they were coming back with the classic adventure, I was expecting a totally new game BASED on the old ones, that feels like an old one, that PLAYS like an old one. Just this. And I’m a player of the series since Sonic 1.

I don’t care if they put homing attack instead of Insta-Shield, we never, EVER, complained about it when they released Sonic 3. “Sonic 2 didn’t have Insta-shield, so why they had to put this crap here”, I never saw anyone saying that. If the homing attack is made good and right, I don’t see WHY it should be left out of the game, since it can add good things to the game too (like alternative paths, etc).

I don’t care it they use a new or old style artwork, what I care is if the game feels and plays like the old ones. “Oh, he have green eyes, when he should have black eyes…”. Seriously, WTF!? I’ll not even comment on this, because it’s too much childish.

“Eggman should be called Robotinik”. JUST CALL HIM Robotinik. Even now, when SEGA america has decided to use this name for the newer games, I still call him Robotinik. Hell, we still even don’t know if the game will have voices (probably NOT), this does not affect the gameplay after all.

I don’t want to play with a FAT Old-School Sonic. If I wanted that, I would play through the old ones. But I don’t care if they have an option to play with an old and the newer Sonic on the game, it would please everyone, and that’s one of the best suggestions right now. I think SEGA is already considering this.

About the Sonic animation running, SEGA already said thats not the final animation, so let’s wait to see first. Yeah, by just those 3 seconds, it’s really stiff, but there’s still space to make it better, they can add the “screech” animation later, etc. Anyway, I like how he runs on Advance and Rush series, but they said alread that his legs will spin on his fatest speed, so rest assured.

NOW IT IS ME TALKING

I have to agree with HALF of these fan points. And HALF not.

Posted by Chris K. on February 6th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

Comment # 938

Ok, I’m confused. I heard this game would have 3d graphics, in a side scrolling world. This looks like Sonic is the only 3d thing in the game, while the back grounds are just solid paintings, like a DS game. Not to mention, Sonic’s run animation looks really odd and slow. His spikes are also getting out of control, but I can live with that. Why all the hype about a 3d HD sonic game if it just looks like a DS title? Are you guys possibly not finished with the animation or the backgrounds? I am still trying to keep my hopes high regardless.

Posted by Keira on February 6th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

Comment # 940

I have signed the petition for Classic Sonic. You should too:

http://www.gopetition.com/online/33896.html

Posted by Andre on February 6th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Comment # 942

guys what do you think about THIS character design? Read the description too

http://nicochi.deviantart.com/art/concept-art-Sonic-s-future-153198118

Posted by nicochi on February 7th, 2010 at 1:19 am

Comment # 944

wtf….. i’m not even going to consider taking you seriously for that.

Posted by Sonic4Ever10 on February 7th, 2010 at 8:09 am

Comment # 946

Put Tails And Knuckles In This Game And Please Make Them Playable And Metal Sonic TOO SEGA!

Posted by Shawndell Rivers on February 7th, 2010 at 9:23 am

Comment # 948

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WLii90ijnM

sonic agrees

Posted by John on February 7th, 2010 at 10:04 am

Comment # 950

axel shut up your gay lOL

Posted by John on February 7th, 2010 at 10:26 am

Comment # 952

dude axel like a said stfu ur gay LOL

Posted by John on February 7th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

Comment # 954

Dude for the 3rd time axel stfu ur gay

Posted by John on February 7th, 2010 at 1:20 pm

Comment # 956

hoping ist more than 4-5 zones, this issue is key. 4-5 zones is like 10-15 minits of play & at most its mabey 30min of play(if you explore every inch of the levels). does anyone have any information on this.

Posted by axel on February 7th, 2010 at 1:21 pm

Comment # 958

I think this game is looking great. But I want to see a sequal to my all time favorite sonic game. SONIC HEROES ( It deserves to be in CAPS.) SEGA please don’t give up on sonic heroes. as far as I read u only had a few easy to solve problems that can be sorted easily. U could make a beast sonic game if u put ideas and “imagination” into it. I hope some agree with me when I say if Sonic Heroes had better graphics, improved backgrounds, more “into” and more levels to specific teams (not every single team does the same levels but different), have missions where use specific caharacters (knuckles looks for emeralds, Espio sneak pass guard to open door, control cheese to sneak through tiny areas to open something), be creative U have the control to make something awesome. give teams their own specific missions (Team Sonic, Mission 1, Sonic (alone) search for Tails or stop Eggman, something like tht ~ catch my drift.) Also there was a problem with the view not contributing to the game, easy for EX: xbox 360, omega, click in the RS to zoom in and while zoomed press X to shoot missiles, and click the RS to zoom out, Easy. I just needed to speak my opinion. Can’t wait till Summer.

Posted by SonicH2 on February 7th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

Comment # 960

axel o1 cares because your gay LOL

Posted by John on February 7th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

Comment # 962

keep typeing behing your safe computer gaynerd , if we ment in person you’d be in the hospital

Posted by axel on February 7th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

Comment # 964

I can’t wait for this to come out. Completely made my week. I only wish it was on a hard copy as I have never downloaded anything and much less can’t figure it out most the time. =\

I’m one of the rare few ‘old skool’ (1991-2010) that loves both the old and the new design and games. To me ether way he’s still Sonic, and as such a treasured and warm nostalgic memory of a time long ago when things were much more simple.

I’m 30 now,older and more jaded toward the world but have followed Sonic and SEGA though many a console (still working and treasured) and yet I’m still in love with a series and a hedgie that has inspired me and encouraged me more then anyone can know. No matter what happens I’m going to stick with ol True Blue/SEGA till the end!

Posted by Sonikkus Mah Baby on February 7th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

Comment # 966

Classic Sonic is cool yet innocent, while the Next Gen is ugly and intimidating. The Next Gen Sonic doesn’t belong in the same time line/series as the Death Egg saga.

Plus don’t you think its misleading how the official Sonic 4 website uses the classic Sonic design as the loading screen but yet the site itself shows the newer Sonic from the current games? That is deceitful marketing as the “hints” you were dropping for 6 months doesn’t correlate to what you promised. We older fans knew that this game was targeted for us, just like how Mega Man 9 and 10 was.

Please do the right thing and correct this mistake or least provide the option to a play as Classic Sonic while the kiddies can play as the Next Gen Sonic. Its a fair balance and everyone would win. The classic designs are really simple so this really shouldn’t take much time or effort to achieve.

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 7th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

Comment # 968

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4417/seega.jpg
^ SEGA, listen to this.

Posted by Kirk on February 7th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

Comment # 970

@AKnotholeResident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WQNOZ5iQwc

Posted by SFan on February 7th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

Comment # 972

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7348/sawnikdahedgehog4.jpg

My god man, just, imagine, if the reveal had been this instead?
I think I would have actually cried tears of joy (even more so than if Shenmue 3 was announced, which is saying a hell of a lot), rather than tears of rage like I nearly did.

This game is a real bitch slap to all classic fans. YES, it matters that Classic Sonic isn’t in. I wanted a Sonic game, where I can play as Sonic, not his freakish mutant clone. And if you look at Sega’s past comments about Needlemouse, it was HIGHLY implied that we were gonna get something like that.
But NO! Instead we got a big fat ugly head invading the classic logo, giving us a sh*t eating grin, and making a hand gesture that says “NUH HUH! not THIS time, SUCKERS!”, and might as well have been his middle finger.

Sega, ignore the morons that are trying to make this pass as “whining” or “nitpicking”, this is important, a lot more important than you can imagine. See all the fighting that’s going on? Do you REALLY think this would have happened if the game had been like that awesome picture instead? EVERYONE would have been happy! Notice how even most people who don’t care, say they would have prefered the original Sonic instead.

It’s a Sonic game.
We wanna play a Sonic. Not some ugly tall furry called Sonic, no, the REAL SONIC.
Simple as that.

It’s not that we’re never happy. It’s that you NEVER give us anything to be happy about. Think about that for a change.

Posted by nicochi on February 8th, 2010 at 2:18 am

Comment # 974

Sometimes I feel that people are set to bash the game the instant they get the tiniest of things to complain about. Is the modern sonic such an ugly guy? Does it even matter!? And many complain about 3D graphics for this game? Funny, where were such complaints for the bionic commando remake, the castle vania dracula x remake and many similar examples where 2d sprites were replaced by 3d. I realise people have the right to thier own opinion but sometimes it just seems that people hate this game just because they can, could we all at least cool down before the game actually comes out, not long now. I myself will get it as soon as its released and am excited about it.

Posted by Paddyman on February 8th, 2010 at 7:49 am

Comment # 976

Someone brought up in a forum that they should add the classic looking sonic as an unlockable, that would be nice but im hopeing more for stuff like tails and knuckles being playable, not in the story just in the levels, and maybe a lock-on ability so you can start in episode 1 and go through the rest of the episodes, and heres what i really want them to do… SUPER SONIC IN NORMAL LEVELS like in sonic 3, oh and a save screen like in sonic 3.

Posted by Chuck on February 8th, 2010 at 10:18 am

Comment # 978

I must admit that I’m totally with you, guys. we need a CLASSIC Sonic…. the new one was kinda cool in 1999… But this look only works with kids that don’t look past the style and the graphics… they don’t seem to care about the core of what a Sonic game should be: A good platformer. And the 1990 Sonic had plenty of attitude anyway… why try to make him “X-TREME” or something like that? Stick to this kind of Sonic please!

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7348/sawnikdahedgehog4.jpg

And like some people said, give us the choise of two Sonic Models

Anyway, Thanks for Sonic4, SEGA!

Posted by Philippe on February 8th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

Comment # 980

I will agree having classic sonic would be nice, but I can not shake the feeling that people will still seek another flaw in the game and blow it out of proportion. Without resorting to the simple “He is ugly” and other similar comments, could someone tell me why the modern sonic is apparently so horrible that its a huge flaw in the game? Not agreeing or disagreeing here, I just want to know the motive behind the hatred many have towards the newer sonic.

Posted by Paddyman on February 8th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

Comment # 982

These comments piss me off. Sega tries their hardest to make people happy and then you got ****heads like scourge and everyone who complains about the design and what version of sonic they’re using and even something minor as Homing attack!

They need to burn. Sega, do what you gotta do to make the game great, you guys were off to a bad start with 2006 but improved again with Sonic Rush and Sonic Unleashed, I’ve always been a fan of you guys and now it seems you’re coming back alive again, good luck!!

Posted by Bravehearts.Exe on February 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

Comment # 984

I changed my catridge this day here is part of the end of Sonic The Hedgehog for Master System version!

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2691/sonic1ms.jpg

The great classics are never forgotten!

Posted by David on February 8th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

Comment # 986

look good change the nature is not a plastic nature please

Posted by David on February 8th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

Comment # 988

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WLii90ijnM

this video is true its an interview with sonic

Posted by John on February 8th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Comment # 990

And I hope Knuckles drops by in Episode 2 to repay Sonic the favor of saving Floating Island in Sonic & Knuckles!

Posted by Tearror on February 8th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

Comment # 992

@ 993
It’s supposed to be revealed in 35 min…

Posted by LehonardEuler on February 9th, 2010 at 6:25 am

Comment # 994

Now it’s time… The counter went off, but that’s all. What happened?

Posted by LehonardEuler on February 9th, 2010 at 7:03 am

Comment # 996

From this post, we have an hour and 20 min…

Posted by Jaysonicfan on February 9th, 2010 at 7:39 am

Comment # 998

I just wanted to say: #1000

Posted by a fan since 1991 on February 9th, 2010 at 8:19 am

Comment # 1000

…yeah.
It does look a little better.
BUT
Graphics don’t make the game. They never did.

Posted by Ninja-Hedgy on February 9th, 2010 at 10:42 am

Comment # 1002

yo sega whats up the countdown is gone and there is nothing to take its place.. come on i wanrt to see it

Posted by Aj on February 9th, 2010 at 11:36 am

Comment # 1004

Yay the countdown is fixed, and the intro section is finaly working for me, but sega really needs to go through it and fix some of the wierd stuff like “but now this mysterious island are dropping down to the ocean surface because the Death Egg had been falling on this island.” that sounds helarious but wrong.

Posted by Chuck on February 9th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

Comment # 1006

sega what’s up with with the Sonic 4 website? I came home from school and went to the computer and the countdown revealed nothing? since that was in the “character” box I am begging you please please please fix the problem on the site.

Posted by sonicfan on February 9th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

Comment # 1008

sega please reply

Posted by sonicfan on February 9th, 2010 at 4:34 pm

Comment # 1010

Hey Sega, just wanted to say thank you for all the Sonic the Hedgehog games you have created so far. I love every one of them and I’m looking forward to Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 ^ ^

Posted by Kent on February 9th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

Comment # 1012

We’ve all seen the altered title screen, now lets take a look at the box art (if it had one since its a downloadable title. Then again, Mega Man 9-10 have box art.) http://i49.tinypic.com/24g10eo.jpg

Posted by A Knothole Resident on February 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

Comment # 1014

so SEGA when will u reveal the other featured character i just hope the other feature is to play as classic sonic and beat the crap out of classic robotnik or i will not buy this game

Posted by DAMN on February 10th, 2010 at 10:51 am

Comment # 1016

You know what makes the old sonic games classics and the new ones get mixed reviews? Its not only the game mechanics, which Sega continuously worsens, though I like the fact that they EXPRERIMENT with new ideas.

Sega, It is the levels and the overall atmosphere of the game. OK let me describe what i mean:

Old beloved sonic games:

The CHARACTERS don’t talk, they act. Story is depicted by what happens on the screen and not by some lame-ass voice actors/huge sprites. The dialogues in new sonic games are childish and boring, they totally ruin the atmosphere of the game. Sonic rpg was a disaster if you ask me.

The LEVELS are not straightforward run zones- there are obstacles that present interesting new challenges with each level. The real sonic 4 game, which btw was called Sonic and knuckles (dont try to hide that please) had lots of those challenges and they gave each level some uniqueness. While I do appreciate dolphins, and sprinkles and that crap, its just not enough to make me remember the game. First level of s4 was a forest and the challenge was wind+vines… second level- the air base- moving platforms that want to kill the player-the fact that its in the sky… third level- deserd- the sand, piramid traps, the lights that the player had to turn on… I can just go on and on. Its SO OBVIOUS, why dont you get it? Good level designs. Thats what sonic is all about. Mysterious and interesting characters and places, actual good mecha/cyber designs. I also liked the fact that the game could have alternative endings and extra levels.

Sonic 1,2,3 and sonic and knuckles (4) all had good level designs. In sonic 4 , the eggman base level had zero gravity zones, teleports and even one of the bosses was a fight in space with a giant robot.
Back then the developers gave a shit about that game being unique and defining. It wasn’t all sales and merchandising.

Sega’s game dev staff should just sit down and play the old games throughly and write down on a piece of paper what was interesting and unique in every level of the games. Just take take and take all that and use it for gods sake

Posted by Theodore Imre on February 10th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

Comment # 1018

WOW i cant wait 4 this game 2 come out sega did a good job again

Posted by sonicfan on February 10th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

Comment # 1020

@everyone complaining.
for the love of god why do you persist. its just the first game and already your blasting sega, been blasting sega. games are exactly about what the name states, they are games that are ment to be fun. you guys sound like a bunch of 5 year olds. sonic ends up getting older overtime as did other charicters. now game characters never get old but they reach a pinicle age and after that they never get older. the new sonic from what i can see is the pinicle aged sonic. there is nothing wrong with a game character growing up. you see mario chainging all the time and his fan base is all right and dandy, graphics and look are a good portion of what makes up a game but in the end its the game play that dictates weather the game is good or not. people should lear to read in that they didnt say sonic retro or re-genisis. they said it would be a game like the classics with a modern look(as if made in 2010). the next thing is that the old sonic was just as fool hardy and over confident as the old one( ova and satam and under ground).sonic and level headedness dont go together, same goes for politness. so buy and judge on the play of the game and not because you hate the new look because thats what games are about.

Posted by axel on February 11th, 2010 at 8:00 am

Comment # 1022

I can’t stop laughing about all those fanboys and fangirls, who are crying that they don’t get their stupid old Sonic back. Get a live, it’s 2010. Sonic got older and so should you. Sega, don’t change anything at him. He is cool like he is ^^

Posted by Rocketmaus on February 11th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

Comment # 1024

the end of Tails in Sonic Chaos for Sega Master System
an excellent game worth not having a final height

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4845/pict0006vh.jpg

Posted by David on February 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm

Comment # 1026

owned axel i had more reason than u i wo and u should just shut up cuz ur gay LOL go jack off to sonic werehog cuz u like them furry

Posted by John on February 12th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

Comment # 1028

and the way you respond show’s you’re beyond immature John…….Fail 12 year old troll is Fail

Posted by Eric on February 13th, 2010 at 8:04 am

Comment # 1030

eric ur axels but buddy so stfu cuz ur gay LOL

Posted by John on February 13th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

Comment # 1032

john stfu your gay lol

Posted by axel on February 14th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

Comment # 1034

Axel stfu you gay Lol get you own combacks gay LOL

Posted by John on February 15th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

Comment # 1036

I saw the leaked video and really liked it suggest that only improve handling of Sonic in a ball at the time of jump drive and still running at the maximum it is getting good until reminded me of Sonic CD but to add more details

The Press Start screen was beautiful

Posted by David on February 16th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

Comment # 1038

BTW Sega besides the online leaderboards, I’m perfectly fine with the rest of the game and is eagerly anticipating it this summer!
I really hope @ GDC, E3, etc. you also reveal you’re working on a new 3D Sonic game!

Posted by G-MAN on February 17th, 2010 at 1:36 am

Comment # 1040

@john readng your earlier posts u said sonic fans of the 90s made it is today… dose that mean we made it crap. i was playing and buying sonic games in the 90s. what you dont under stand is that sega failed to transition to 3d in time, so when n64 and ps1 came out they blew segas graphics out of the water. sega then rushed with the dream cast and its sonic searies which then began segas trend of not so good 3d games. its not the new sonic, its the gameplay that didnt transition from 2d to 3d.

Posted by axel on February 17th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

Comment # 1042

wow good come back, dont really care about what you say anymore, the fact is that your a homo retro fanboy with blind loyalty to the old sonic style whos ruining the franchise and isnt helping with his ignorance. so dont care go **** off

Posted by axel on February 18th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

Comment # 1044

i own u axel good fight u gay LOL

Posted by John on February 18th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

Comment # 1046

the fights over when hell freezes. we can both agree that we like the classic sonic. we can agree that a searies using classic sonic would be great but we dissagree on sonic 4. granted an intermidiate designe would be better but i so far like the way it shaped out. for me i dont mind the design as much. its the play that counts for me most.

Posted by axel on February 19th, 2010 at 2:12 pm

Comment # 1048

Wow John, over one game? huh?

Posted by Justyn688 on February 19th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

Comment # 1050

not gunna adress you much john, you’re not a programer from what i can tell so you’ll never truly affect the game or the franchise. as for me im majoring in it so i could have a chance at chainging it. youre not geting anything done. segas stopted listening anyway, im done and its, been lame arguing with a hypocritical, ignorant, retro fanboy. i like a normal gamer am just a fan. so bye im done. lets go sonic!

Posted by axel on February 20th, 2010 at 10:22 am

Comment # 1052

Why isn’t Sonic in this game all i see is an ugly tall skinny thing with green eyes that looks like crash bandicoot! Where is Sonic!

Posted by Noah Agrios on February 21st, 2010 at 12:42 am

Comment # 1054

tha the end of Sonic Blast – G Sonic the saga of 8-ended

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1188/pict0001w.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2572/pict0002hl.jpg

Posted by David on February 21st, 2010 at 7:23 am

Comment # 1056

This is a TRAILER NOT THE ACTUAL GAME YOU IDIOTS.

Posted by Eternalblaze9 on February 21st, 2010 at 8:38 am

Comment # 1058

wow… i come back and read the new posts and i become sick to my stomach. theres too much n00bism for me to handle. for those with blined loyalty, your not helping, for those who trash and dont write anything constructive, your not helping. i agree with some of knotholes points and chaoticfox’s points. i cant judge this on whats been given. all i can say is time will tell.

Posted by emeral master on February 21st, 2010 at 5:11 pm

Comment # 1060

Sega you need to fix so much on this game,

http://tinypic.com/r/judefn/6

or that will happen….

Posted by Faceless on February 24th, 2010 at 7:05 am

Comment # 1062

@1062, i do have to say that in some aspects its like rush, but its really not. rush was all about instant boost. this is a sonic 1 style run. in part its rehashed, most likly to generate buzz and attract us because its a classic like stage. it dose follow all the 2d structure types, first is a forest/grass area, next is some sort of mountainis rock like zone and then it goes down the line. in a way all the 2d games followed a similer zone patern. so this could be expected. and how dose it being 2.5d make it rush3. the entier storyline and principle is different. i have to say though that i do hope its not a rehash. i dont mind the whole zone pattern( because it wouldnt be a classic without a cassino type zone [fav]) but i dont want it to be sonic 1 2 3 remake crumbled into sonic 4.

Posted by axel on February 24th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

Comment # 1064

the only problem that I have is the clock,timer, and ring gage at the top left of the screen. If that gage could reflect and look like the old school sonic games instead of seeming out of place I’m sure FANS would be happy about that. Please consider my 2 cents Sega

thank you for your amazing work so far.

Posted by ctouchclown on February 26th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

Comment # 1066

@1067, thats what iv been trying to get across. people need to try it to see if they like it, if its truly good then sega made it, else sega faild and needs to try again. im only saying in simple terms, give it a chance and see if its good rather than arguing over charecter skins. yes presentation maters but not to a point that if the game runs good your still gunna hate it for a slight chainge in charecter skin.

Posted by axel on March 1st, 2010 at 3:51 pm

Comment # 1068

@1069 we know how you fell, but dont count it out yet it can still be a good game, later we’ll pull for a sonic retro regenisis type game but for now classic console play is good for me.

Posted by axel on March 4th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

Comment # 1070

hello fellow sonic fan’s!

Posted by # 1 sonic fan on March 5th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

Comment # 1072

what’s goin’ on here?

Posted by # 1 sonic fan on March 6th, 2010 at 9:35 am

Comment # 1074

leaked info that your gay LOL but we knew that axel you gay LOL

Posted by John on March 8th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

Comment # 1076

axel sorry I dont have what you hav I got a penis duh ow stfu cuz your gay LOL

Posted by John on March 11th, 2010 at 7:10 am

Comment # 1078

PK I see where you are coming from, but do you honestly think that SEGA is going to change everything about what sonic is today just for you? just change everything they’ve done? everything they’ve worked for so some immature, self-centered, late-generation sonic “fan” can be satisfied? i”m pretty sure even if they had changed the model to his old form, you’d still find something to complain about! ex: this spines are too long. UGH! all you who are complaining about the upcoming game because he isn’t running or his eyes are green or he’s doing the homing attack or his spines are too droopy…..do all of us and SEGA a HUGE favor and STOP WHINING!!! I personally liked the old sonic as well but that’s time-locked people! The new sonic is just as cool! the new sonic game is going to be amazing!! I can’t wait!! but people. why do you complain when SEGA makes the closest thing to the original sonic games they’ve been since sonic Advance. this is history in the making! they’re listening to us and doing this just for us true sonic fans. but people are still complaining!!!! thats like your dad giving you a really expensive house and you complaining because it wasn’t like the other house you had. why do you continue to whine and complain about 3 SECONDS OF BLOODY FOOTAGE???!! we can’t possibly know how good this game is going to be based on an advertising!! SEGA keep up the good work and don’t listen to anyone I like the new direction sonic is taking. and that is up:)

Posted by Brandonthehedgehog on March 14th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

Comment # 1080

some dissapointing news. a rumer states that sonic 4 may feature a mine cart stage. i want classic platforming not dk mine cart bs. sega plz stick to basics, new sonic is ok, only so long as game play stays oldskool. time will tell though. (im a bit dissapointed, its shaping into sonic adv 4). i do belive there was a mine cart like stage in the sega game gear sonic2. well again time will tell.

Posted by emerald master on March 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

Comment # 1082

@ John: Can you please stop talking like this. There are kids that are young and blog on here and we don’t want them to talk like you are. So please stop.

Posted by Segafan on March 20th, 2010 at 8:14 am

Comment # 1084

john shut up. no one wants u here.

Posted by # 1 sonic fan on March 21st, 2010 at 4:14 pm

Comment # 1086

the music is still 16 bit in nature, all in all its not bad

Posted by axel on April 1st, 2010 at 5:32 pm

Comment # 1088

mine cart… cant sega stick with the compleat classic model rather than adding random stuff.

Posted by axel on April 27th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

Comment # 1090

stfu axel ur gay LOL

Posted by john on April 30th, 2010 at 9:08 am

Comment # 1092

the only thing you can do is call people gay. wow you big time troll, your the biggest fag ive seen in years, go back and crawl out of the anus you came from.

Posted by axel on May 15th, 2010 at 11:43 am

Comment # 1094

Yeah I have to complain about the running animation. We know he’s fast but having the background zoom past us at over a hundred miles per hour and watching Sonic jogging just won’t cut it. I really think he needs to run a bit faster.

Posted by Super Sonic on May 31st, 2010 at 9:49 pm

Comment # 1096

I am so stoked about this!

Posted by Sonic Fan on June 15th, 2010 at 11:41 am

Comment # 1098

Awesome!!!!! I cant wait!!!!!!

Posted by Daijah Smith on July 2nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm

Comment # 1100

Jason Sonic: The f**k just happened? I’m Sonic Knight of the Wind!

Ryan Sonic: I pwned your ass! The fans love me. I’ll play with you some other time.

Junichi Sonic: Oh what a great view.

Jaleel Sonic: Kids there’s nothing more cool than being hugged by someone you like. But if someone try’s to touch you in a place you don’t feel comfortable that’s NO GOOD!

Martin Sonic: STRANGE ISN’T IT?!
XD

Posted by Truesonic on September 7th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

Comment # 1102

sonic 4 is remake of sonic 1, but updated version
sonic 4 episode 2 might be remake of part 2

Posted by 1104 on October 19th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

Comment # 1104

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEd6s5S4hJI

Posted by Phil on October 22nd, 2010 at 4:12 am

Comment # 1106

the games been out and all i have to say is in your face, best sonic game in 10 years. even though the levels are done in a very similer fashion to 1 its worth every cent. the final battle is also great, its like boss battle mode. and then surprise surprise metal sonic will be up next in sonic 4 ep 2

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Comment # 1108

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