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Wednesday Feb 24, 2010
What’s up with Yakuza 3?Hey everyone, Today’s blog is a little different than most for us, but it’s something that our community teams are very passionate about, and we want to make sure gets out there. While it’s already been rumored in a couple places, we wanted to confirm that there is some content in the Japanese version of Yakuza 3 that didn’t make it over to upcoming Western version, mostly involving the Hostess Clubs and the Japanese History trivia sections. At the same time, we also want to explain part of the reasoning behind that, and be up front with you guys, our fans, about that fact. Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia. That said, our teams also understand that many of you guys love games like Yakuza because of that experience, and rest assured that we’ll continue fighting on your behalf to make sure that going forward, we can provide as close to the full experience as possible – no matter how foreign. Even so, Yakuza 3 is still a game packed to the brim with things to do, places to see, and people to fight – offering a massive amount of options for fans of the series and new players alike. In addition, the western versions of the game will come pre-packaged with codes for the DLC, already localized and ready to be enjoyed. With gameplay that you truly won’t find anywhere else, we think that Yakuza 3 is genuinely one of the PS3’s best titles, and we hope you’ll think so too when you play it. As Yakuza 3 nears ship, we’ll have lots more on the massive amount of things to do, see, and experience in the game – and truly, you’re in for one awesome ride. Until then!
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Comment # 1
Nope. Not buying a censored version.
Posted by Velsper on February 24th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Comment # 2
No buy for me as well.
Posted by Justin on February 24th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Comment # 3
You guys better put the hostesses back into the game or I’m not buying it.
Posted by blizzardjesus on February 24th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Comment # 4
I don’t support censoring and cutting content, so no buy for me as well. There’s not any good reason to cut anything from this game. I’m going to vote with my wallet and advise others to do the same here and on other sites. Maybe you guys at Sega will eventually learn that pissing on your customers doesn’t really fly.
Posted by Syvere on February 24th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Comment # 5
DONT REMOVE THE GOD DAMN HOSTESS BARS
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS?
ARE
YOU
OUT
OF
YOUR
GOD
DAMN
MINDS?
I AM NOT BUYING THIS GAME WITHOUT HOSTESS BARS
YOU HAVE ALSO CRIPPLED CURRENCY IN THE GAME BECAUSE ITEMS YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BUY HOSTESS WOMEN ARE USELESS
HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE
Posted by YOU IDIOTS on February 24th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Comment # 6
I think much of this could be averted by simply comitting to bringing this content back into the game. Even if its DLC, at least it would give hope that the game will one day be complete.
Fight Harder, Aaron!
Posted by Minh Nguyen on February 24th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Comment # 7
Isn’t the idea of bringing Yakuza 3 overseas partly to share Japanese culture?
I loved the hostess part in the demo, but now I’m waiting to get this at a cheaper price. I don’t support cut content unless it originally didn’t flow with the game’s pacing.
Posted by Ohsoroful on February 24th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Comment # 8
No deal. The days of censoring and removing content should have been gone long ago. I planned to pick this up on day one, but you can bet I’m not going anywhere near this version now. It’s not like Yakuza 2 was censored/had content removed.
Thanks a lot, Sega.
Posted by Jarsh on February 24th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Comment # 9
I advise Sega to read some gaming news sites while there’s still time:
http://kotaku.com/5478862/sega-you-are-once-again-making-a-giant-mistake
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1071367p1.html
http://www.destructoid.com/yakuza-3-hostess-bars-cut-out-of-western-version–164765.phtml
Read the comments particularly. My guess is that you managed alienate 30-60% of the potential sales with this decision, so good going there Sega. It’s like you don’t even want us to buy the game.
Posted by Syvere on February 24th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Comment # 10
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
How about, less trivia, no hostess bar and rumoured no mah-jong or shogi? Isn’t that what you’re giving us? With all these cuts, shouldn’t there also be a price cut? Why should Canadians have to drop $69.99+tax on an incomplete product? Steam has shown that discounts boost sales, so there would likely be more people to buy it to compensate for the price reduction.
However, being the tight-ass that I am, I cannot support a localization that cuts content. That should have died in the PS1 era. I would like to say, that being the internet age, people are smarter and have more knowledge, but it’s obvious that most people that buy games don’t read anything and have no idea they’re getting the shaft.
Atlus doesn’t cut content, N1 doesn’t cut content, albeit not always providing 100% english voice overs, what’s your excuse? Perhaps your marketing team needs to take a lesson from them and learn how to make a profit off niche titles without having to cut things.
I know it’s going to work out for you in the end though, due to the fact that the gamers of today have no self control.
Posted by fobad on February 24th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Comment # 11
Please put it back in to stop the whining.
Posted by GTC0 on February 24th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Comment # 12
Looks like I’ll be waiting for bargain bin prices on this game. I just love how non Japanese players are getting treated like second class citizens. It’s 2010 ffs, and you cut content? Fuck you Sega.
Posted by Tom on February 24th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Comment # 13
Will not be buying it. Will wait when it hits the bargain bin. I won’t support content being removed.
Posted by arthas on February 24th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Comment # 14
More hyperbole to cover up you own failings and lack of honesty with fans. Sega can continue to underwhelm their western fanbase and scratch their heads as their presence in the western market becomes ever more eroded.
“At the same time, we also want to explain part of the reasoning behind that, and be up front with you guys, our fans, about that fact.”
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
Sorry but this just doesn’t wash. Sega knew they were cutting this way back when the rumour surfaced on the spanish website (the name eludes me right now.) Sega chose not to comment on this issue till now and even then seemingly ONLY because it came up in an interview with IGN. That is not open and honest, it’s all smoke and mirrors Sega.
Keep on cutting content, putting out poor ports, cutting corners et al, and see how many fans you have left in a few years time.
Posted by Terra_EX on February 24th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Comment # 15
Free DLC with the cut content later down the road would be great! Cutting it completely stinks especially after playing Y1 and Y2 with no cut content!
Posted by chifanpoe on February 24th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Comment # 16
OK so you explained why there is no trivia. But why is there no hostess bar?
Posted by SenseMakingMan on February 24th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Comment # 17
No hostesses no buy. It’s not that hard to understand Sega. I’m not paying full price for a half game and many other fans too.
Posted by Ryu on February 24th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Comment # 18
So you are saying us ” buy the game as it is because you won’t have it any ther way” ? Then i prefer not to play the game ( as much as i want to ) and stop companies for doing this censorship/cuts in future games.
Posted by YakuzaNIS on February 24th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Comment # 19
At least you finally came out.
If it’s just the Hostess stuff and Quiz. I can deal with that (but I do understand people who are disappointed about this). For example, if Mahjong was removed from this game, that would really piss me off. Not because I wouldn’t be able to play Mahjong (I do that every day, anyway), but because I want the main character, Kazuma Kiryu, to play it. I want him to walk into a shady Mahjong Parlor and be a boss. Some other people might want Kazuma to experience Hostess Clubs.
I might just add that I wouldn’t know to miss Mahjong if it wasn’t part of the earlier games and the original Japanese version. The same way people will miss Hostess Clubs because they have always been a part of the Yakuza game series.
Posted by KKiryu on February 24th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Comment # 20
No sale
I don’t aprove of content cuts.
The cut was made because you guys are just lazy and wanted to spend as little money as possible on localising it. If that’s your attitude then I’m not supporting your company.
Sega have failed to properly market yakuza3 and are releasing it between FF13 and GOW3, too huge titles.
This game is going to fail big time and we can kiss goodbye to yakuza4
My advice sega, license the localisation of to another company who will take the time and care to do a good job of localising the game properly and marketting it. You guys aren’t fit to be trusted, especially after the bayonetta fiasco.
Posted by arse on February 24th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Comment # 21
SEGA, please, please, pleaseeeee give back the hosstess mini-game!!!! i had a lot of fun with this part, even this mini-game doesn’t have anything to do with the main story T_T
This is the last chance, i’m still buy this, so u can translate Yakuza Kenzan and 4 in future. Be sure u not cutting content again with those 2!
Posted by Joe_Musashi on February 24th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Comment # 22
I am very disappointed by this decision. I was looking forward for Yakuza 3, as I enjoyed the previous two a lot. What I cannot understand and makes no sense to me is why is it that the previous titles had hostess bars, and now, all of a sudden, these are gone?!?
Something tells me that its not just the quizzes and the hostess bars that are gone
– What about Mah Jong and the rest of the mini games?
Posted by Conrad on February 24th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Comment # 23
Yeah this is not good Sega, you admit you did wrong. I don’t think many of us really cared for the quiz, but a VERY large part of Yakuza series is based around the hostess clubs. Fact, a large part of the story in Yakuza 1 + 2 is the hostess/host clubs. If it was edited out for nudity or profanity I understand that but then again you left the strip club in it (fail) AND there’s nothing bad in the hostess mode!!
So GO BACK in a meeting and get people to unlock what you locked and capped. I’m assuming you left the data on the disc you just capped it off. Get out and announce that you’re going to fix it at a much later date. Even if it was 2+ months from now you would solve this situation and all of us will buy the game. And it can’t be that much to translate..because it’s all answer and question like the rest of the game!
Flip, fly me out there and i’ll do it. I need a job..
Posted by matt on February 24th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Comment # 24
I can’t believe this. Why are you taking out something that fans have been looking forward to? Trivia I can understand since there’s translation issues, but hostess club? It was basically in all the trailers I’v seen of the game since the first trailer was released.
Not to mention, you guys didn’t even give a real actual reason on why it’s being removed. Thanks sega, for trying to kill off the few fans you have left in the west. Unneeded censorship is just plain bad for the players and your PR. Don’t expect too much support in the future from us.
Posted by Nyawu on February 24th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Comment # 25
On one hand I sympathize, I am happy to see Yakuza 3 make it to NA (even if it is incomplete). I also WILL still be buying Yakuza 3. However, a lot of people will not be now. You really should have made this public knowledge months ago; it would have minimized the negative press. Releasing this info two weeks from the time the game hits the shelves was, in my opinion, far from an intelligent decision. However, all is not lost. Commit to DLC in the future and you will minimize the damage this news has caused. Either way you need to make sure to avoid this in the future.
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Comment # 26
The excuse given simply isn’t good enough. Hostess bars were in the first two games and were a big part of the experience of being in Kamurocho. I don’t understand why now that it is too Japanese an experience for us. The hostess bars were even featured on the 1up Show’s review of Yakuza 2 when it first came out. So this is a feature people know about and liked.
The whole point of Yakazua is, like shenmue, to emerse yourself in this town/city and learn about all the intricacies of the local culture.
At this point, Yakuza really only appeals to fans of the previous titles or fans of Japanese culture in general. To take out something that appeals to the primary audience is a good way to anger the people who will support and talk about this game to other gamers.
-Make this right Sega, release it as DLC.
Posted by Manny on February 24th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Comment # 27
I’ve been a staunch supporter of Yakuza 1 and 2 for the PS2- bought both on launch days, and have talked it up to all my friends. I was extremely excited to hear about the Yakuza 3 making it to the US.
But with this move, I’m canceling my preorder for Yakuza 3. Removing parts of the game is a huge disincentive for me to buy.
I hope you guys realize what you’ve done to alienate your loyal base.
Posted by Will on February 24th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Comment # 28
Sorry Sega, I refuse to purchase this product while the hostess stuff is missing. I can’t see why you couldn’t wait another month or two to release this game without any cuts, its stupid as it is to release it on the same day as Final Fantasy XIII, so why not hold off and make it perfect? It seems like you want this game to fail, the fans were the ones who really pushed for this game and many have been promoting it to their friends. Now as I have seen on some of the boards, people are taking back those reccomendations and cancelling their pre-orders. As Sega seems to be doing very little to promote this product, the fans are needed. I always realy enjoyed those side missions, and unless they are put back in, I will not touch this crippled western version.
Posted by sonnycorinthos on February 24th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Comment # 29
It’s amazing that SEGA is always complaining the Yakuza games never sell very much in the US but I’m guessing now you’re shooting to make sure it sells at least half of that. Who do you think BUYS Yakuza in the US?? THE FANS! and by cutting the cotent guess who you’ve just alienated?? THE FANS It makes no sense how you guys were talking about all of the real life idols were going to be in the game for the hostess clubs and now you’re taking them OUT??
And who’s idea was it to choose a release date to go against FF XIII AND GoW3? FIRE who made that decision IMMEDIATELY!!
I can’t support such bad practices. Was really looking forward to this game but at this point, I honestly can’t say I’m going to buy it and I’ll definitely recommend my friends to do the same. I’m voting with my wallet. VERY disappointed Sega…
Posted by thundr on February 24th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Comment # 30
You need to confirm that Mahjong and Shogi are still in the game. At this point everyone is assuming the worst. If you HAVE cut Mahjong and Shogi then may god have mercy on your soul. My pre-order is on shaky ground as it is, my pre-order is gone if Mahjong and Shogi have been cut.
Posted by Garth G on February 24th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Comment # 31
I was going to buy a PS3 just to play Yakuza 3, but not anymore. Thanks for saving me $360, Sega.
Posted by Anonymous on February 24th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Comment # 32
Nope, not good enough, all content or no buy.
Posted by Bogard on February 24th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Comment # 33
This just doesn’t pass the sniff test. It seems that the DLC is being pushed as a superior replacement for the loss of the hostess club. To there point where it sounds like the localization of the game and the DLC precluded localization of the hostess club and history trivia. But wouldn’t it make more financial sense to take some of the time that went into the DLC and use it on including the hostess club, so that Sega could make money on the DLC later?
Regardless, I don’t think anyone’s buying this statement. If it were just the history trivia, I think we could accept that. But this feels like a forced corporate misdirection covering up some sort of internal issues with bringing over the hostess bar.
Oh well, at least
Posted by Chris Privitere on February 24th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Comment # 34
While I’m happy that we’re getting the game in translated to English at all, it is disappointing to see content being removed from the game — especially when it is content that played a large part in the first two titles.
I’m sure the fans would be pleased if this could be added back into the game through DLC — even if we had to pay for it.
Posted by Disappointed on February 24th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Comment # 35
I hope you guys realise how much you have angered your community of fans. Especially by the “remarks” you made like “The parts we ended up taking out were parts that we felt wouldn’t make sense (like a Japanese history quiz game) or wouldn’t resonate as much (such as the concept of a hostess club),” SEGA told website IGN. This almost sounds like we’re too “dumb” to get the idea of what a hostess club actually is. Most of us have played Yakuza 1 and 2 so we know what they are.
Also if you expect us to pay full price for a product you are cutting things from, give me a break. That type of thing will not go over well here.
Also I think you should take a look at what some of your “fans” are now saying. You are losing a lot of sales by this move. I have cancelled my pre-order and will wait to see if you decide to put this removed content back in as DLC before I even reconsider purchasing it.
http://kotaku.com/5478862/sega-you-are-once-again-making-a-giant-mistake#comments
Posted by Bevvie on February 24th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Comment # 36
Well, it’s at least a better reason than cutting it to hit a ship date that puts it up against FFXIII.
But seriously, “almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”? A little less trivia, no host clubs, no hostess training mini-game, and if the trophies are accurate, there’s no mahjong, shogi or massage parlors also.
That also means several of the in-game stores are mostly useless, and kills several side missions. The really sad thing is the extra developer time spent to make the game work without the hostess clubs probably cost Sega as a whole more than just translating it all and leaving it in.
Posted by androvsky on February 24th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Comment # 37
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
For myself, I also have to choose whether to pay full price for a year-old INCOMPLETE game, or buying the game when it ends up in the bargain bin.
I was going to support Sega and buy it when it’s released. But now, I am getting it used or when it’s at bargain price.
Don’t say there is no one supporting your products ,Sega. We like the Yakuza franchise but you just made the wrong decision to deliver something incomplete in the hope that we would just live with it.
Posted by JennaN on February 24th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Comment # 38
This sounds like a lie. I still think the spin that this was all or nothing is totally untrue. You have to go OUT of your way to remove content, instead of translate the content and cut a large portion of the game’s inventory items.
Posted by Also on February 24th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Comment # 39
I’ll NEVER pay full price for not complete game.
I’m very disappointed with Sega, especially when I look to other publishers like Atlus.
Posted by Hitokiri03 on February 24th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Comment # 40
Oh, and just so you know, we DO understand the concepts of the hostess clubs. We understood it in Yakuza 1, and in Yakuza 2. Actually look at the kind of people that’s going to buy this game instead of assuming. Look at every single message board on the internet. We are buying this game because we understand, and we like the yakuza and japanese culture settings.
Go back and change this decision, or else you’ll lose alot of what little support you have left, especially after the bayonetta port stunt.
Posted by Nyawu on February 24th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Comment # 41
Hostess clubs were fully available in the previous two games and were quite fun to boot. Removing these places shrinks the game by a fair amount. Where once there were 8 night life spots, as you put them, in Yakuza 2 there are now only 2 in Yakuza 3? Why even keep that MEB store in the game? The very point of it is to get information on hostesses which, well, you can’t do so now.
As for the the history trivia you could have changed the questions and answers to stuff about the first two Yakuza games. That would’ve been a nice treat for us fans and something for the bandwagon hoppers to scratch their heads over and wish they’d supported the series to begin with. :p
Posted by megamixer on February 24th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Comment # 42
I will still buy this game but I am very displeased with the content that you removed the trivia I can live without but the hostess clubs actually looked like fun I hope you can take the displeasure of several loyal fans into consideration in the futur
Posted by Kyle on February 24th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Comment # 43
I was very much excited for this game, until I heard about the ‘censorship’ taking place in the US/EU version. In this day and age I find it odd. Sega knows it has a very loyal fanbase and those of us who played the previous games were all on board when the US release was announced. But now again, we see that $ matters over what the fans truly want. I think I will now wait on this purchase, or maybe will find more interesting things to play instead.
Posted by Hiryu on February 24th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Comment # 44
What a kick in the nuts SEGA this close to release date and you reveal you cut content!!! hell with this neutered version im going for the original Japanese release even if i dont understand the language will find a way to decipher Japanese text. At least i will have the satisfaction that it is a 100% complete game!!! I supported the Yakuza franchise have 1 and 2 was looking so forward to 3 but i cancelled my pre order and ordering the Japanese one has way better box art and all content!!!!!!! Sega and then you wonder why the games you butcher(box art,content cut,etc….) doesnt sell you did it to yourselves this game will not sell. The true fans will not pick up this version you lost a purchase here and many others.
Posted by Travis Touchdown on February 24th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Comment # 45
As everyone else has said, this seems like censorship just for the hell of it. There’s barely any coherent reasoning behind it.
To quote from elsewhere:
“Hey let’s take this game set in Japan starring Japanese people with Japanese lives who speak Japanese with subtitles.
But cut out that part. It’s too Japanese. ”
When did you lose your minds, Sega? When?
Posted by Dominic White on February 24th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Comment # 46
Thanks for even acknowledging this as a problem, but you still won’t get any money from me until this content is put back in, I don’t care how.
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
That is very lame, how can that have possibly been the choice? “You can release the game, but only if bits are missing”. That won’t wash with me!
Posted by Adam on February 24th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Comment # 47
Pre-order cancelled, thanks for ruining a game I was looking foward to.
Posted by Richard on February 24th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Comment # 48
LOL at all the little children.
DAY ONE BUY FOR ME.
THANK YOU FOR LOCALIZING THIS GAME AND BRINGING IT TO THE WEST SEGA.
Your efforts do not go unnoticed.
-a TRUE Yakuza fan.
Posted by reson8er on February 24th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Comment # 49
I’d also like to point out that if you’re afraid of offending American sensibilities, Dante’s Inferno was just released, and that’s pretty much nothing but a non-stop parade of gore-soaked titties and ass wrapped up in Christian mythology. And if that isn’t shocking people, then hostess clubs sure as well won’t either.
As others have said: No sale.
Posted by Dominic White on February 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Comment # 50
@reson8er
“THANK YOU FOR LOCALIZING PORTIONS OF THIS GAME”
Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by megamixer on February 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Comment # 51
I’ll be canceling my preorder now.
I understand the removal of the quiz games, but hostess clubs are part of what made the yakuza’s series character. For such a niche title you can’t expect to get away with taking away something like that.
Delay the game and put hostess clubs back in or promise DLC later to get them back in, otherwise no preorder and I think lots of preorders feel the same way.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_22do7qTIAKw/SP2Kk4ye-nI/AAAAAAAAJIc/sdESxWr3Iac/s640/DSC04420.JPG
nuff said
Posted by zoglog on February 24th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Comment # 52
I’ll NEVER pay full price for incomplete game.
I’m very disappointed with Sega.
Posted by Hitokiri03 on February 24th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Comment # 53
I was dissapointed to hear about these cuts, however Sega this can still be rectified via DLC, please make it happen, even if it’s a month down the road, just look into getting it as DLC for us fans. I will still be buying on day one but I don’t understand why you’d cut out such a fan aspect of the game
Posted by Tee Ryze on February 24th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Comment # 54
I bought a Playstation 3 based solely on whether or not Yakuza 3 would be brought overseas. That is how much I love the Yakuza series, I bought the first two and they’re now among my absolute favorite games. I really want to support Yakuza 3 in hopes that we can also get future titles in the series such as Yakuza 4, and hopefully even the spin-off Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan!.
But it is really unfair to expect customers to pay full price for a game that’s been out for a year already in Japan and with content cut from it, not to mention that the bonus DLC being offered is something that was already available for free in Japan anyway. It’s not like we’re getting something in trade for the cut content.
Honestly, it just seems like Sega of America wants this game to fail. Putting it up against the likes of Final Fantasy XIII and God of War III, cutting content with one of reasons claiming to be because some of us Western folk might not understand the cut content (which is insulting, especially to people already fans of the series), making DLC that’s free and available to the public in Japan a pre-order bonus, and then charging full price for it. It’s just doesn’t look good and seems to make Sega look like they just don’t care about the fans. When things like this are done and people don’t buy the game, the fans are always to blame despite the mistake being on Sega’s part, especially when they fail to properly advertise some of their most overlooked games (i.e. Yakuza, Yakuza 2, Valkyria Chronicles, etc.).
Also, it’s rumored that along with the Hostess and Japanese History trivia (Ans X Ans) sections being cut the Shogi and Mahjong mini-games may have been cut as well based on the trophy list differences between the Japanese version and the English version. If so this also confuses me as all of these activities were available in the previous games released in the US.
I’m still not sure whether or not I will buy the game now, I still have it pre-ordered but I am on the razor’s edge contemplating canceling my pre-order and not picking the game up. However, whether I get the game or not, this incident will greatly reduce the chances of me doing business with Sega again in the future, even if it is a game I really want. It’s lousy because either way the fans who want the full and true experience are practically being forced to sabotage their chances of getting future titles in the series because of these unnecessary cuts.
I just don’t see why these cuts were even thought to be necessary. The game is only being translated into English, other than that nothing else was really needed to be done. No English dubbing, so you’re saving time and money there. It’s just not rational to remove anything from the game and doing so because “Western audiences don’t get it” is just insulting. The cut content may not interfere with the overall story and such, but it’s the principle of the matter.
Please reconsider cutting the content or restoring it before release. If you have to do it via DLC a little later then that may be acceptable, but only if it is free and we’re not forced to pay extra for something that shoud have already be available to us. Thank you.
Posted by TheRob on February 24th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Comment # 55
I believe you’re just attempting to do poor damage control and not really giving us reasoning behind the cut. Saying it’s “either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia” is not giving us reasoning behind it. Is it that black and white?
The trivia cut is understandable. But cutting the hostess bars seems ridiculous. Yakuza fans are familiar with the concept of hostess bars, especially after playing Yakuza 1 and 2.
And SEGA hasn’t commented on other aspects. Your fans have noticed the difference of 5 less trophies than the Japanese version. This has led us to believe that more than hostess bars and trivia were cut. Many fans believe that things like Mahjong, shogi, and massage parlors will not be in the US release. Whether or not they are in the game is something that should really be commented on.
With the release date of Yakuza 3 right around the corner, I understand that the game probably cannot be pushed back. But if you were to make statement about putting hostess clubs back in via DLC, you would remedy the angry fan backlash.
I’m one of the die hard Yakuza fans that will no longer be purchasing this game on day one or at full price. I will wait until I can find it cheap in a bargain bin.
Posted by Paul T on February 24th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Comment # 56
Yeah, sorry this is a deal breaker. Yakuza 3 might as well as not even come out anymore if this is the case.
Unless there’s a DLC announcement with this feature added, no sale.
Posted by Persona on February 24th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Comment # 57
I was considering buying this but between this and the pre-order DLC it looks like I won’t be buying it any time soon. I’ll consider buying it if the missing content comes in a reasonably priced DLC pack (free is probably unrealistic, though that is what it should be) sometime down the road, but for now? Not buying.
Posted by DeBurgo on February 24th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Comment # 58
I’m sorry. I understand you are trying to provide a little damage control here, but some of the comments present both in this recent blog post and in yesterdays IGN article are a complete insult. Did anyone think to announce these cuts from moment a localization was decided upon? The timing of this announcement is absolutely horrible
I’ll post here what I have posted elsewhere:
“I have always maintained there are two subsets of fans for the Yakuza series – at least in the West. There are those of us that really enjoy old school beat’em ups and feel that Yakuza is the spiritual successor to these types of games, and then there are others that are attracted to Yakuza more so for the minigames and cultural elements. By dividing groups up I am certainly not suggest that someone can’t be interested in both, just that it appears that someone falls into one or the other many times.
My point in all of this is that from my experience, the majority of people that have purchased Yakuza 1&2 in the West fall into the second grouping – those that were more attracted to the mini games and cultural elements. That again is why this decision to cut content illustrates that SoA does not understand the fanbase of their games.”
Posted by Kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Comment # 59
The moderator approved my previous post :O
Posted by Hitokiri03 on February 24th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Comment # 60
@reson8er
Cool No True Scotsman fallacy, bro. Any fan should prefer a complete version as opposed to an incomplete version.
Posted by Jarsh on February 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Comment # 61
The point is not whether you can localize this game or not.. the point is that the fanbase is very small, very dedicated, and has not asked you of anything.
I own Ryugagotoku3, but it’s difficult to play because I don’t understand Japanese.
The file size of the demo is the same as that of the JP version, which means the hostess clubs are still in the game, just inaccessible.
I’m not prepared to pay full price for a game which can now be purchased for $25 USD in Japan, when I know that there’s content on the disc which can never be accessed.
Sega, you should already be aware that people believe the following content is cut:
- “Loser” song
- Mahjong and Shogi (missing trophies from US version)
- Hostess club
- Japanese quiz shows
There were Japanese related questions in Persona 3 and 4, those were both localized.. do you think westerners are too dumb to play a game SET IN JAPAN
WITH JAPANESE PEOPLE
WHO DO JAPANESE RELATED ACTIVITIES
WHO SPEAK JAPANESE?
But no, hostess clubs? Let’s cut that part out. Mahjong? White people are too stupid for mahjong. Sega; this is just silly, this game’s fanbase didn’t even realize the game was being released in English until late last year. What kind of “time restraints” are you really on? Is it going to really matter if you release it now, or a little later? If you release it a little later, with all content, at least the fanbase will be happy.
There’s also another thing I want to address…
Releasing this on the same day as Final Fantasy XIII is not a good idea. If people are going to have to choose, people will choose FF13, that’s just how popularity works in this industry. I think it would be both wise and conservative if you delayed the game to another date and made ABSOLUTELY SURE that the content westerners receive is the same as the content the JP version received.
In any case, I will probably not end up purchasing this in the current state it’s presented in. It would be nice if you can listen to your Yakuza fans and give them the full game.. but I’m not holding out for it.
Thanks for reading.
Posted by Anonymous on February 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Comment # 62
Go ahead and ignore the nutjobs, Sega. Most people will be enjoying the remaining 99% of the game while these weeaboos cry in a corner.
Posted by Schwarztee on February 24th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Comment # 63
I should also mention that I purchased a PS3 solely due to the Western release of Yakuza 3. To say I am disappointed is an understatement.
Posted by Kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Comment # 64
I must admit this has even got me questioning whether I ever get this game as well now and this was the one game I wanted more than any other this year. Poor Show. @44 if you were a TRUE fan then you’d realise how big a cut this is for the game when compared to 1 and 2.
Posted by ShogunDarius on February 24th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Comment # 65
By the way guys this isn’t censorship. Its called being very cheap. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they had hired Backbone that did the localization…
Posted by megamixer on February 24th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Comment # 66
I was really looking forward to Yakzua 3 ever since I heard it was getting a Western Release (I kept track of it since it was released in Japan, just praying one day I could get a chance to play it). However, it seems that all you guys seem to think about is screwing over the fans, and claim you’re doing it for our “benefit” (what a lame response to IGN!).
I was just thinking the other day that Sega couldn’t disappoint their fans as much as they already have, and low and behold, you guys just did the impossible. Congratulations.
Posted by Shaun on February 24th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Comment # 67
This is a poor excuse, SEGA you really disappoint me, I just canceled my Preorder with Amazon, not going to buy Yakuza 3 until I hear some news that you added all of the content you guys cut out as DLC for free.
Posted by John Woo on February 24th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Comment # 68
Not buying. Thanks Sega. Voting with my wallet this time.
Posted by Lawrens on February 24th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Comment # 69
I want to give the moderator who ever this person is kudos for letting us at least vent about it… i’m very suprised. Maybe the moderator actually agrees with us and is just doing his job posting this PR damage.
But still all is NOT LOST.. FIX IT, you can fix it in an hour eve..just make an announcement that you hear the cries of fans and you’re going to fix this at a later date PROBLEM SOLVED.
Thank you.
Posted by matt on February 24th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Comment # 70
Another proof that you guys don’t understand your market at all…
The people who are interested in the Yakuza series are japanophiles.
I guess the actual reason is plain censorship so that the games gets a lower ESRB rating.
While I appreciate the effort put into porting the title, I’ve just cancelled my amazon pre-order.
Posted by SilentBomb on February 24th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Comment # 71
I think at this point the only way Sega has to win back the Yakuza fans is by releasing an English version of Yakuza with EVERYTHING intact. But probably the don’t care.
Posted by Conrad on February 24th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Comment # 72
@Schwarztee
I don’t think you understand what a weeaboo is. If you did, using it to address YAKUZA FANS is only the worst way to use it.
Posted by Jarsh on February 24th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Comment # 73
btw I hope we have hundreds of people post on here how upsetting this is..
I don’t care about the trophies, I’ll live another day without the quiz.. the massage parlor rumor ticks me off, the mahjong rumor ticks me off because I did play that, shoji game ticks me off..losing the “loser” song irritates me..
but the hostess clubs c’mon!?!! What are you guys doing?? I spent hours working on that section in Yakuza 2!! DUMB. FIX IT.
Posted by matt on February 24th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Comment # 74
RubyEclipse, by now I think you have some idea how people think about this cut of content from the US release. I recommend you go to other major gaming forum and take a look. If you work in the gaming business, you should know which forums I am talking about.
The general consensus of Yakuza fans is that we want the hostess bar to remain when the game comes to America. I don’t know about other people but I am willing to waiting a bit long if Sega needs more time, 1 or 2 months that’s OK. And if that will be done, I will still support Sega and buy the game when it’s first released.
Please reflect our wishes to your Yakuza 3 localizing team. Most potential buyers of this game want the COMPLETE experience by having a little help from the subtitles. Don’t let anyone ruin it for us.
Posted by JennaN on February 24th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Comment # 75
As a customers, I am not buying it and I have a few reasons.
Sega you suck!
1) After 2 years wait of Yakuza 2 many people lost hope to this series already.
2) You charge customers full price for a one year old game.
3) You cut contents off the game and blame not having enough time. (Are you ten year old or what???)
4) You let your loyal customers down by telling them 2 weeks before the release that you gonna get half of the game.
5) Don’t blame us for not buying your product in which you can not satisfy your customers in the first place.
6) Many of your customers are either looking for Hostess Club as one of the main reason buying it ,a full Japanese experience of the game and new customers to the Yakuza series where they hope to get full aspect of the game.
7) Don’t think that we gonna thank you for bringing half of the game after a year of release and expect us to pay full price.
9) If you can not make Yakuza 3 right, should I care about 4. No, if I don’t get 3 there is not point of playing it or even think buying one.
10) For those of you that say why are we complaining or we should thanks Sega for bringing it to the West??
Are you stupid or what, charging us full price for half of the game and expect us not saying a words where you release the news like 2 week before the release. If you are are an american, you know that in the USA you got to speak out so that other will see and know whats the problem.
Posted by you suck on February 24th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Comment # 76
Ok, I appreciate a response on this matter, so please do not mistake the tone of my post as disrespect.
But you’re not being clear, here.
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
Why exactly was this ultimatum established?
It doesn’t make sense at all.
And let’s be honest here, this isn’t just “a little less trivia”, this is hours of content that Sega hoped we wouldn’t notice.
I could understand if you had to cut the hostess clubs because of licensing fees or something, but even then the women still remain, and they’re based on real women. Instead of actually going and meeting them in a realistic manner, if the demo is any indication, they’ll just call you out of nowhere. How does that make sense?
Answer X Answer would also have added to the experience. I may never go to Japan, so I relish the opportunity to learn anything about it that I can. The game takes place in Japan, so why not just leave the Japanese trivia in there?
Mahjong and Shogi are rumored to be missing from the english version of this game. Sega’s silence on the matter pretty much confirms it. Why would you remove these table games? They further immerse us into Yakuza’s world, and they were both available in Yakuza 2.
The massage parlor was also available in both the previous modern day Yakuza games, yet is not highlighted in the english demo for Yakuza 3. This has lead most of us to believe that it’s been taken out. Sega is also quiet about this. Not good.
The opinion of most fans of the series, myself included, is that Sega is trying to kill interest in this series outside of Japan. You establish some imaginary deadline for a game that already has a limited audience, and use that deadline as an excuse to remove important content, which you then claim won’t “resonate” with Western audiences.
Yet you now admit that you know your audience wanted that part of the game all along.
It doesn’t work. You’ve got two stories going against each other.
And to top it all off, you release Yakuza 3, a game that should be more than good enough to stand on it’s own with all of its content included, without key components of the experience, amongst a sea of beast games that are more well known and would have probably outsold it anyway.
Final Fantasy XIII, God of War III, Battlefield Bad Company 2.
Are you seriously going to say you think people on the fence are going to go with Yakuza 3 in its neutered state over any of these?
By cutting that content, you screwed yourself and your most loyal fans over.
You’re making me want to wait six months for Yakuza 3 to hit the used bin, and that makes me sick to my stomach.
Posted by king_ruckus on February 24th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Comment # 77
Just adding my voice to the chorus of people cancelling their preorders on the heels of this news.
I may still get this game, but it won’t be ‘Day One’ and it won’t be without renting it first to see what’s left of the game after they’ve apparently excised half of the minigames.
I certainly won’t be paying full price for a game with cut content. If you had added content to compensate for what you’ve taken out, this might be forgivable, but to simply shortchange people without dropping the price? Shame on you, SEGA. Shame.
Posted by Shadowchasers on February 24th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Comment # 78
I bought a copy of the japanese version off ebay this morning. I would have done it a lot sooner had I known this would have happened, I could have played it a year ago!
Posted by Adam on February 24th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Comment # 79
Agreed with the rest. We dont mind waiting longer but we will not buy a neutered version of the game.
I had EB Credit + pre order for this set aside for Day 1. I was looking forward to this game the most out of this quarter. You guys are going to take a sales hit for this
Posted by Munly Leong on February 24th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Comment # 80
I will not buy without hostess bars.
Posted by Chris on February 24th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Comment # 81
Sorry, lost another sale here aswell with your absurd, nonsensical cuts. Not going to support a neutered version.
Posted by Lone Yakuza on February 24th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Comment # 82
You’re making a huge mistake, Sega. Yakuza is not, and never will be a mainstream series. Chances are very high that most of the people planning on buying this game are interested in Japanese culture in the first place, thus they would most likely already know what a hostess club is. Hell, they were in the first two games and you WORK as a male host in the second one. Just put a brief explanation in the manual if you really feel the need to explain what they are. It’s very likely that I’m going to cancel my pre-order and just pick up the game used.
Posted by Sudo on February 24th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Comment # 83
smart move adam I might have to do that as well if they don’t announce something before the release date. This ruins so much in the game.
One user commented about currency in the game – how true.. took me a while to play yakuza 2 because i was spending mass money and gifts keeping the girls happy in the marietta club mission. now that won’t be the case in Yakuza 3..the game will actually be much easier (which is WORSE..) and the play time will be much shorter in so many ways.
Sega you really screwed this up.
Posted by matt on February 24th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Comment # 84
Please don’t cut content, I WILL cancel my preorder. I want to love you Sega, I want to so bad, please do the right thing!
Posted by CB on February 24th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Comment # 85
Another customer lost right here.
I was really looking forward to this too. I was just about to pre-order it and I never pre-order anything. I guess I should be happy we’re finding out now.
I can handle delays, I can’t handle a gimped out game. If it was between not bringing it to the West and bringing over a gimped out game, it should’ve just been dropped. I may import the original but I’m definitely not buying this.
And that’s a really hack PR job there: you’ll have a hard time getting your customers more angry than this.
Posted by Guy on February 24th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Comment # 86
As a customers, I am not buying it and I have a few reasons.
Sega you suck!
1) After 2 years wait of Yakuza 2 many people lost hope to this series already.
2) You charge customers full price for a one year old game.
3) You cut contents off the game and blame not having enough time. (Are you ten year old or what???)
4) You let your loyal customers down by telling them 2 weeks before the release that you gonna get half of the game.
5) Don’t blame us for not buying your product in which you can not satisfy your customers in the first place.
6) Many of your customers are either looking for Hostess Club as one of the main reason buying it ,a full Japanese experience of the game and new customers to the Yakuza series where they hope to get full aspect of the game.
7) Don’t think that we gonna thank you for bringing half of the game after a year of release and expect us to pay full price.
9) If you can not make Yakuza 3 right, should I care about 4. No, if I don’t get 3 there is not point of playing it or even think buying one.
10) For those of you that say why are we complaining or we should thanks Sega for bringing it to the West??
Are you stupid or what, charging us full price for half of the game and expect us not saying a words where you release the news like 2 week before the release. If you are are an american, you know that in the USA you got to speak out so that other will see and know whats the problem.
Posted by doris on February 24th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Comment # 87
Options that Sega has to include the missing content back.
1.) Release the content as DLC (maybe as pieces I dont care)
2.) Release another version Yakuza 3 Complete Collectors edition: This will have EVERYTHING that the Japanese version has, ONLY thing that will be changed is Subtitles Sega You can make it a limited production, charge premium… Just get this done and release it to the States.
Posted by Terry on February 24th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Comment # 88
I’m truly disappointed at Sega’s decision to remove content . I played both us ver yakuza. Really dont see why is there a need to westernize such oriental game. Does gta easternize to suit Asia fan?
If you really had to make a choice. I rather not see the game comin over than a reduced content incompleted piece of game. And please dont tell it wont affect my gamin experience.
Posted by aless on February 24th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Comment # 89
This is an OUTRAGE! I am done with sega. Please don’t release any games ever again.
Posted by noxxa on February 24th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Comment # 90
I too am extremely dissapointed in the decision to cut content. Sega seems to be making one ridiculous marketing error after another. I work in marketing and I am astounded on haw much they are damaging their projective sales figures.
The Yakuza series has proven in the past to be a very niche market game. Releasing on the same day as a major competitor (FF13) and alienating its niche fanbase jsut weeks before the sales date is, to be blunt, retarded.
I game release was going to be enough to push me over the edge and buy a PS3. And I still probably will get this game and a PS3 eventually. But I no longer feel rushed, I too will probably wait for when the price drops significantly, which will probably one be a couple of months after release.
Posted by Andrick on February 24th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Comment # 91
I was really looking forward to enjoying every part of the game, from the cool fights, to the mahjong, to the hostess clubs, and all of it. I’m saddened, not so much by WHAT was cut, but rather by the fact that anything was cut at all. I mean, I’m sure we’ve all been looking forward to all of it.
I’m not angry at Sega… just disappointed I guess.
There’s still time, please fix it?
Posted by Jimbo on February 24th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Comment # 92
I was going to buy it day one expecting it to be simply an English translation of this game, not a butchered one.
Sorry, SEGA, I’m afraid I have to cancel my preorder and save my money on other games I know that will not get its content cut (Hint: Don’t worry, its not Final Fantasy XIII).
Posted by Revid on February 24th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Comment # 93
Please put that content back in. it’s not right to take a hacksaw to the original release and then start cutting away.
What’s the point of releasing this game in the U.S. if Sega’s going to start pulling this nonsense?
Posted by Jason on February 24th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Comment # 94
I was really starting getting excited about the possibility of picking this game up for all the things we could do in Yakuza 3, but with the confirmation of the cuts, I’ve definitely changed my mind. I’ll wait for a DLC release or a price drop to pick up this game now.
Posted by framaoao on February 24th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Comment # 95
I hate you Sega, I hate you so much!!!!!!!!!
You know what? I’m not buying the game without the hostess clubs either. Even after all the fighting for it. You’re the worst publisher ever!!!! If you can f**k prostitutes in GTA IV, why couldn’t you TALK to the hostesses in Yakuza 3?? You’re out of your minds! Keep your damn DLCs, keep your soundtrack and keep the entire TERRIBLE LOOKING BOX!!!
Posted by Dexter158 on February 24th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Comment # 96
I’m just chiming in to let you folks at Sega know how excited I was for this game to be released.
Unfortunately, that excitement has been replaced by utter disappointment. If Sega refuses to include the cut content in the localized release, I will NOT be purchasing Yakuza 3. Let me simplify this.
CUT CONTENT = ME NOT BUYING YAKUZA 3
How about trying to make some good business decisions for once Sega.
Posted by SegasGoingDownhill on February 24th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Comment # 97
Good day gentlemen. Let’s all try to keep this as civil as possible.
The main reason why I’m here is because I would like to hear a valid explanation (that will satisfy most of us) from Sega as to why there was content cut out of the Western version of Yakuza 3. Please allow me to make clear that I, Homeslice, do not demand that said content should be put in the game again. I am sure that I speak for many other people that we appreciate Sega being open to their fanbase about this issue.
From what I gather in the article, I can’t see a valid explanation; all I see is a conclusion — “Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.” –. What led to that conclusion? Who made the decisions? Why was the content cut?
All we can do now is speculating and the longer it takes for Sega to give us an honest answer, the more angry the gamers will get. That’s a realistic expectation and just by looking at all of the comments on this very website, a quick and honest response by Sega would be beneficial for all of us.
Posted by Homeslice on February 24th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Comment # 98
I am sorry, this is STUPID, why they had to be removed? Because it wouldnt fit in the western audiciende? COMMON YOU ARE BUYING A JAPANESE GAME OF JAPANESE MAFIA
Goddamit, I really wanted this, I won’t buy a censured version
and many people agree with me.
Too bad sega, you’re falling more low and low
Posted by Joseph Edward on February 24th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Comment # 99
Add me to the list of disappointed. As others have said, the problem isn’t so much what was cut, but the questionable excuses given. Those of us who like the Yakuza games like them BECAUSE they’re so Japanese! For many of us, it’s a way to experience a culture in a way we’d never be able to. It’s disappointing to see parts of the game cut.
The worst thing is no matter what you think, this DOES alienate the very people you’re relying on to buy the game. The “you get this or nothing” attitude is a slap in the face of everyone who wanted the game, because we wanted the game we saw hyped in Japan, not the “We know what’s best for you” version that was arbitrarily cut/tweaked/etc.
At least some real honesty would’ve helped soften the blow instead of lame excuses. Count me as another pre-orderer who’s now waiting for this to drop to $19.99 (or less) before buying.
Posted by Buzz on February 24th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Comment # 100
At least 70 people who’ve commented won’t be purchasing Yakuza 3. That’s over 4 grand in lost revenue. Not very much, but this is still pretty hot of the press, and just imagine how many other people out there aren’t gonna touch this thing.
Posted by SegasGoingDownhill on February 24th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Comment # 101
Why the heck is there no hostess bars?! Yakuza 2 had them! Come on! Put them back in! This is insane that you would censor this game! Ugh, this sucks…
Posted by TheRootBeerKing on February 24th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Comment # 102
WHY!!!?
I have been looking forward to getting this game for a long time and i was so excited to find out that an English version with subtitles was going to come out, now i have found out that things are going to be missing in the game i am having second thoughts on purchasing it!
It is a Japanese game based in Japan about a Japanese gangs therefore it should be the same as the Japanese version, it should not be changed.
In the west there are not so many yakuza fans so why would you make your target audience smaller?
A majority of people want the game the same as the original but just subtitles in English.
- “Loser” song
- Mahjong and Shogi
- Hostess club
- Japanese quiz shows
All these things make up the game even if just a small part, I will not purchase this game unless you decide to fix the problem and leave everything in the game as it is!
I do not hate sega as they have made so many great games such as the Bleach ones, sonic, Madworld etc. I just hope you realise the mistake you are making and i hope you can fix it
Posted by Rav on February 24th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Comment # 103
You guys at SEGA really wanted to push this out this fiscal quarter, didn’t you? I don’t see myself buying the game this way. The Yakuza fanbase is pretty hardcore and now you have upset them. Oh well it’s not like you wanted this title to succeed in the first place right? Why else would you position it the way you did in March?
Posted by Sergol on February 24th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Comment # 104
Oh my god. Why even bother porting it in the first place…this is so disappointing. Should have know Sega would screw it up.
Posted by Ryan on February 24th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Comment # 105
I’ll repeat my comments here.
Saying “Look, this is a niche product with low anticipated sales. The only way we can do it and make money at that level is to cut some content that isn’t central to the story.” is one thing. I don’t like it, it does make me less likely to pay full boat for the game, but I understand it.
The problem is that you didn’t. That crack about not making sense, or not ‘resonating’ is a cheap shot at fans of the series. This is not a game marketed to, created for, or wanted by the GTA/HALO set. The people that have been begging for Yak3 to come to the West pretty much know what we’re getting into with the series, and it’s a safe bet that the things SEGA says don’t ‘resonate’ are the REASON we’re asking for it, not a hindrance.
If we wanted another game that was 100% familiar and filled with western tropes, we have lots of them available. We don’t have to BOTHER asking for something from Japan to be localized to fulfill that desire.
The thing that most chaps my hide about the whole situation is the no win scenario it presents us with.
If we don’t buy Yakuza 3, because we wanted the full experience, you may take the lack of sales as evidence that there is no interest in the Yakuza series in the west. That means there simply won’t be enough demand to localize Yakuza 4 when the time comes.
If we do buy it, just to show our support for the series, then you’ll decide it’s O.K. to ‘westernize’ the game and leave out whatever you feel doesn’t ‘resonate’ with us. After all, the change was made and people still bought it.
I really hope SEGA is paying attention to fans, and realizing we WANT the Yakuza games, not a westernized VERSION of the Yakuza games.
Posted by SDallas on February 24th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Comment # 106
@megamixer
This is censorship — the quote from IGN states: “The parts we ended up taking out were parts that we felt wouldn’t make sense (like a Japanese history quiz game) or wouldn’t resonate as much (such as the concept of a hostess club)”
So, we have complete work that some determines we shouldn’t receive based on their own values — i.e. what THEY felt would resonate with us. So, we didn’t have the option to decide for ourselves, rather they just eliminated it.
Posted by jayntampa on February 24th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Comment # 107
just canceled my pre-order. I was very interested in this game, but i will not spend my money on a version edited for my enjoyment. I don’t want a western version, chopped so SEGA can bleed money from me later with DLC.
I don’t care how about your reasons for the cuts or the “massive amount of things to do, see, and experience in the game”. I want the full Yakuza 3. If you want my money, then you better deliver the full product.
Posted by jester on February 24th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Comment # 108
I was really looking forward to this game, I even urged most of my friends to buy this game too but now I am really pissed. Why did they decide to cut this content, I am pretty sure they also cut the Shogi and Mahjong mini games as they aren’t mentioned anywhere in english previews.
Please add all this content back through DLC, then I am sure most of the nay sayers will buy it.
PLEASE SEGA announce this as DLC.
Posted by Onimusha on February 24th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Comment # 109
Good f*cking going Sega. You just lost my pre-order purchase and all my friends pre-order purchases. You also lost any future purchases for this game or any others. Time and time again, you f*cking fail as a company. Enough is enough, goodbye. I’m sick and tired of your bullsh*t Sega.
Posted by GFGSega on February 24th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Comment # 110
Basically nearly everyone said what I wanted to say when I heard the news. I am deeply disappointed with SEGA and their commitment to bring us the full experience of Yakuza 3. I had this pre-ordered even though God of War III and Final Fantasy XIII were coming out in march to show my apprecition and support for this series. I have cancelled my pre-order but will be waiting for a price cut which will be about a couple months time or get it pre-owned. I shall not be paying full price for a game that has content cut for no real reason. If you don’t have enough time, I would have waited longer since I waited for over a year and I don’t mind if it’s a few months more.
Posted by maru on February 24th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Comment # 111
I’m pretty disappointed with the cuts but not surprised. For Yakuza 2, Sega of America reduced the game from two discs to one by using DVD9 encoding. This probably saved money but made the game unplayable on half of the PS2s out there.
When some western gamers are alienated by the lack of dubbing, why alienate “weeaboo’s” by cutting content? On the bright side, I can at least put purchasing one game in March, which already has a crowded release schedule.
I can only hope that what should be free content will be added back in as overpriced DLC. Otherwise, I see no reason not to import the game from Japan, or better yet, import the sequel that is also coming out in March.
Posted by Inactive on February 24th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Comment # 112
Announce that the cut content will be released as DLC and you might be able to save this trainwreck, Sega.
Posted by Ex on February 24th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Comment # 113
Bayonetta was supposed to be a day 1 buy for me but I didn’t buy it anymore after playing the demo and learning about how sloppy the port was.
Yakuza 3 was also supposed to be a day 1 buy for me but at this rate I probably won’t touch it anymore either. I don’t care about the trivias but the other stuff that was cut made my very disappointed.
Posted by jirom on February 24th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Comment # 114
This game was what got me to finally pick up a PS3, even a HDTV.
Really upset that your cutting a great part from the game,
will NOT be buying this game now.
I really wish you could have told us sooner too,
shove your company up your ass, SIDEWAYS!
Posted by Masamune on February 24th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Comment # 115
I can’t say anything that hasn’t already been said, but this line from the blog post:
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
…is absolutely BS. You might as well have have said, “Just shut up and accept what you get cause we could have totally left Yakuza 3 unlocalized.”
And “a little less trivia”? Where does that leave the hostess club content? That was just a simple matter of sitting down and translating lines of Japanese text… hell, I could have done that with the help one of my Japanese buddies and a Eng/JPN dictionary.
Posted by Josh kramer on February 24th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Comment # 116
I don’t understand why this would be excised from the game if it was in the PS2 games before.
I can’t say I’ll miss the Japanese history quiz game, but I don’t really think it’s cool that something more substantive is being cut, and for the reason provided.
I preordered the game a couple of weeks ago, but I’m having second thoughts. I don’t mind waiting longer for the game if it means that we get the full game, especially if y’all are removing other side activities.
Posted by Michael L. on February 24th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Comment # 117
How can Sega slap the Yakuza fanbase in the face like this? If it werent for them, you guys would not have been able to publish and sell Yakuza 2 or even consider bringing over 3.
You guys are making a pretty big mistake, but it’s not too late. The removed content could be included as DLC at a later date, cant it?
Posted by Gabriel on February 24th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Comment # 118
We do NOT salute FAILS Sega and you failed hard!
Posted by Naked_Snake on February 24th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Comment # 119
No buy.
I’m not paying a premium price for a sub-standard product.
Keep cutting those corners Sega! It’s what you do best.
Posted by Adam on February 24th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Comment # 120
Dear Sega,
I was planning on buying this game on release date. Note, I already own a JPN copy of Yakuza 3 that I picked up while travelling in Japan (due to knowing that a localized version would most likely never be released based on the poor sales performance of the earlier Yakuza titles abroad). I was very happy to hear last year that you decided to release a localized version of this title abroad due to a vocal & loyal fanbase and I was planning on supporting this business decision as I am also a fan of the series.
Now after hearing that (already existing) content will be cut or “censored” due to very bad or obscure reasons about “timing constraints regarding translations” and “catering to western tastes/understanding”, “either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia” I will be postponing my purchase until there will be a decision to include these cut portions via DLC, preferably for free. I do not condone releasing a “cut” game, removing content or downplaying your customers, which is effectively turning your back on the fanbase that have long supported your company and bought your products.
Please see gaming sites such as Kotaku that effectively detail why this decision to cut content or modifying your game in such a way is not a good business move and will undoubtedly hurt the sales of this title, rather then increase them.
http://kotaku.com/5478862/sega-you-a…-giant-mistake
I hope we see some more official communication from SEGA regarding this situation and that the necessary steps are taken to correct this. Thank you.
Posted by Tequilazen on February 24th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Comment # 121
I am disappointed the hostess part of the game is cut. Yakuza 1 and 2 also have it, so why cut it for the english yakuza 3 version? I already own the Japanese version of the game and enjoyed the minigame already with the language barrier. I was really looking forward to play it again in english and thought the game is a must-buy. The hostesses part is definitely a main feature of the game as it increases the life span considerably. You also market it as such in commercials. So why cut it for us europeans and americans. Now I am not sure anymore if I should bu the english version due to these content cuts.
Posted by SOLO on February 24th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Comment # 122
I was looking forward to the game but when you cut content then you won’t get my money. It’s as simple as that. What makes it even more insulting is that you will continue to charge $59.99 + tax for a crippled version of the game. I also wager that you will sell it as DLC and charge another 20 bucks for content that was originally in the game.
I feel bad for the people who fall for this crap.
Posted by thomas on February 24th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Comment # 123
It is very sad to hear that any company having an attitude like this towards its clientele, THIS is how SEGA treats its supporters by blackmailing them cause what you said in your post sounds like “take it or leave it” and believe me that is the worst possible way to make a sale, I had this game reserved the second it was available to reserve it at gamestop but have just canceled it as I type this blog in disgusts of the corporate practices being done at SEGA and sadly finally have lost all hope in Sega, I have been a long time Sega fan but this is unacceptable if Sega had decided to cut content they should have let the consumers know about it earlier and let them decide if they wanted the mutilated edition or not instead they wait till 2 weeks before the launch, and also I no longer care for Yakuza 4 since it will most likely not come to USA and even if it does it will be cut/edited too, now there is a way to SEGA to redeem itself to its customers by giving back the cut content from Yakuza 3 as FREE DLC and it must be free cause if they try to sell it for money that would be border line extortion, so sadly till Sega announces and DLC solution to Yakuza 3 I personally will not buy it because as a consumer it is my right to buy or not buy a product. Thank you for all the good games from the past.
Posted by iorikyo on February 24th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Comment # 124
I am very disappoint at sega…I want spend my $60 on full game..i have to cancel order for the game. Sega get your act together or lose it..don’t try this bull shit trick..i don’t release the game when it not full version of the game…YOU WILL FAIL ……
Posted by navin on February 24th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Comment # 125
Damn.
Posted by Shugo on February 24th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Comment # 126
Today is Feb 24; release date is Mar 9. There’s no way to turn this around, right? The discs are being pressed as we type?
I liked the PSN demo enough to add it to my “buy” list. Now, however, I wouldn’t be interested in combat without the other dialogue-heavy cultural elements to complement it.
As others have pointed out, using development resources to cut content established in the prequels while matching a street date with undesirable competition doesn’t pass the sniff test. You’re not being totally forthcoming, Ruby.
Posted by RedCoKid on February 24th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Comment # 127
delaying the game with over a year, then announce 2 week before release you cut content – GJ SEGA!!
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Posted by quezcotl on February 24th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Comment # 128
Whoaa SEGA, I can’t believe you’re this dumb. Every PS3 owner wants to go to a hostess bar. Was it too hard to translate? Also you’re releasing it the same day as FF13, completely marginalizing your audience in a big way. Way to phone it in and not understand your fans.
Posted by Mike Fitz on February 24th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Comment # 129
This is still insulting and a slap in the face of the US/UK Yakuza fan base.
You made a terrible decision that will only alienate fans and result in lost sales.
Posted by Sad on February 24th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Comment # 130
Sega, you’re making a big mistake. I advise you to take a look at some gaming forums or even your own and you’ll see that _a lot_ of gamers are very disappointed. There’s NO excuse to cencoring the game, that’s just wrong.
http://kotaku.com/5478862/sega-you-are-once-again-making-a-giant-mistake
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1071367p1.html
http://www.destructoid.com/yakuza-3-hostess-bars-cut-out-of-western-version–164765.phtml
You’re only hurting the game itself, sadly.
Posted by Disappointed gamer on February 24th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Comment # 131
well I’m going to cancel my pre-order at gamestop. I just bought a PS3 for this game too. I dont’ really care about host clubs but I don’t support the idea of you cutting out content for us non curious westerners… I rather wish you didn’t waste time on the release day DLC and instead focus on working on making a complete port of your game to the US audience.
I’ll just rent this game and play it for the story I guess. No reason to keep it around longer if this and other things got neutered.
Posted by icedog on February 24th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Comment # 132
Absolutely not spending my hard earned money in an inferior version of the game! Thanks sega! Or put back the content or no buying it!
Posted by Bullets on February 24th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Comment # 133
Horny cry babies want virtual women.
That should be the headline here.
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Comment # 134
oh and who was the idiot that thought of releasing yakuza the same day as FF13? good way to ask for failure.
Posted by icedog on February 24th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Comment # 135
Sorry Sega. I was going to buy Yakuza 3 as soon as it hit the stores, but it seems like my money is going elsewhere. There’s no way in hell that I will support you with that behavior towards your customers. It’s disrespectful. You do understand that a game such as Yakuza is targeted towards the hardcore gamer, and when you cut content, you will fail.
How do we know that you haven’t cut more content? Please, do every single fan a favor and delay the relase, insert the cut content and release it later.
Posted by adam on February 24th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Comment # 136
Posted by RubyEclipse in Yakuza 3 on 11:03:17AM Feb 24, 2010
Last posted on February 24th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
After three hours and over a hundred messages, Sega you should know what we want. Do the right.
Posted by JennaN on February 24th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Comment # 137
Just to clarify, hostess clubs (or snack bars) are HUGE parts of Japanese culture. I’ve lived 1/4th of my life in the country, and everyone from teachers to salarymen… 18 year-olds to 90 year-olds go to hostess bars.
In the town I lived in, there were about 3 “western” style pubs, and about 40 hostess bars. It’s that big.
Don’t fool yourself thinking this is just a small part of Japanese culture that they did us the favor of snipping from the game.
Posted by Josh on February 24th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Comment # 138
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
Seriously SEGA, are you thinking we are stupid?! Almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia. That’s nonsense and ridiculous. Because a half full glas is NOT full.
“and rest assured that we’ll continue fighting on your behalf to make sure that going forward, we can provide as close to the full experience as possible – no matter how foreign.”
A totally fail. Because the full experience has the following things:
- The Quiz
- Club (Dating)
- Hostess Club (Kazuma Kiryu as a Club Manager)
- Mahjong
- Shogi
- Massage Minigame
Read this! You cut of 6 original contents from the fantastic original version. Do you really think the game would be a huge succuss without this “Ryu Ga Gotoku-Trademarks”?
And yes, Shogi and the Hostess Club was in the western Yakuza 2.
“we can provide as close to the full experience as possible – no matter how foreign.”
Look, Yakuza 3 is a jap. game, with jap. voiceover and jap. locations. Like part 2. Now you are saying to us we are not worthy enough to expierence the full version because we are not japanese or the original game is too japanese?! Are you out of your mind?
This alienation is a scandal.
Not to mention the sidequests/sideevents that come along with some of the minigames. Plus about 10 – 15 hours fun (managing a club take some time). And yes, I know the great japanese version.
As many people mention here, you want to rip us off with a non-complete game and sell it to full price. But without me SEGA because I already cancel my preorder. And I’m not the only one here.
“In addition, the western versions of the game will come pre-packaged with codes for the DLC, already localized and ready to be enjoyed. With gameplay that you truly won’t find anywhere else, we think that Yakuza 3 is genuinely one of the PS3’s best titles, and we hope you’ll think so too when you play it.”
Very funny statement to the DLCs to cover up the lost contents. First of all, our japanese friends got all of this contents via the updatesystem and not via DLC.
And yes, the “Yakuza-Franchise” ist great and the games are truly awesome. But your actual step with the western version of Yakuza 3 ist very disappointing and absolutely not tolerable.
Why?
One: You put the release of Yakuza 3 in March among the big titles like Final Fantasy and God of War.
Second: You cut off 6 goddamn original contents.
Third: You tried to cover up this whole mess!
Actually it looks for me, you don’t want the third installment of Yakuza to be a huge succes in the western region.
Last but not least, I’m a big fan of your Yakuza Series. But your treatment of the US/EU version of part 3 is crazy like hell.
I don’t mind if I have to wait for other months to get the original version of this awesome game. Or you put the stuff later right back via a update or DLC.
Because I won’t buy this “half full” version and I won’t support your rip off politics.
So please think about it what you (SEGA) have done with a great game in your portfolio, and in the name of the fans and in your sake, fix this disaster.
There’s still time.
Posted by Dragoon on February 24th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Comment # 139
Come on SEGA. Give yourselves a chance!
I’ll be buying this game, I have it on preorder in fact. Now…..
Your way of doing business is taking a loser attitude, I can’t believe it. Yakuza 1 is released, and sells some relatively weak numbers after doing very little advertising. After this, you assumed no one liked your game, and decide to wing Yakuza 2′s release.
For Yakuza 2 you totally failed. You do zero advertising of a game coming out of at the very end of a console’s life cycle, in the middle of the buzz of a new console and rumors of a sequel already underway. Needless to say the game doesn’t sell well, OBVIOUSLY.
Now when you have a chance to actually give this game a chance you come up with this decision. Once again you are failing at advertising, it’s nowhere to be seen at my local games retailer, no ‘coming soon’ box, nothing, nothing online other than rehashed trailers, etc. Then you decide to destroy the boxart, and make it look like a C game even though this is far from that. If you worry about casuals being scared off from the hostess stuff, do you expect any sort of appeal from that boxart? Seriously?
And now this, you cut the hostess portion of the game because you assumed it wasn’t going to be liked. Wow, I’ve never seen a company try to so hard to fail. What kind of people do you have making these decisions? Do you really think they are doing a fine job? Where is common sense in all of this?
Posted by OTABEL on February 24th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Comment # 140
@comment 43- a TRUE yakuza fan like me want the complete version of the game!
Posted by Bullets on February 24th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Comment # 141
I meant comment 48.
Posted by Bullets on February 24th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Comment # 142
Thanks for removing the parts that may offend my western sensibilities. Oh, also thanks for saving me $59
Posted by malrock on February 24th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Comment # 143
James, despite the fact that you’re an obvious troll, there’s a couple things you should no:
1) When we spend $60 for a full game, it had better be a full fucking game the way it was intended to be played, with nothing missing.
2) I’m ASSUMING most of us are mature adults that take an interest in Japanese culture. SEGA is spitting in our faces by removing this content and simultaneously deeming our whole country incapable of appreciating the content that had been removed.
3) Your pointless, juvenile message lets everyone here know that you probably get laid the least so please shut the fuck up and troll somewhere else.
Posted by Troll_Slayer on February 24th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Comment # 144
Along with most people reading this blog, I am extremely disappointed as well… I was looking to having the total Yakuza 3 experience as gamers in Japan did. If I could read/understand japanese, I would import the japanese version to play it the way it was ment… Now I’m torn in my decision to purchase this game. Unless Sega America adds this back into the game via disc or free DLC, I’m in the strong belief they lost tens of thousands in sales.
Posted by Mark on February 24th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Comment # 145
James, despite the fact that you’re an obvious troll, there’s a couple things you should no:
1) When we spend $60 for a full game, it had better be a full game the way it was intended to be played, with nothing missing.
2) I’m ASSUMING most of us are mature adults that take an interest in Japanese culture. SEGA is spitting in our faces by removing this content and simultaneously deeming our whole country incapable of appreciating the content that had been removed.
3) Your pointless, juvenile message lets everyone here know that you probably get laid the least so please take your troll @ss somewhere else.
Posted by Troll_Slayer on February 24th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Comment # 146
When you next update the Yakuza info, how about you go down the list as to what specifically was cut? There are still a lot of rumors, and most likely there are people mad because they think they believe the content cuts were huge.
If they are relatively minor, you may be able to tone this down. But it is still pretty obvious that you have shot yourself in the foot on this one, Sega.
Don’t worry though, I’m still buying it.
Posted by N/A on February 24th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Comment # 147
Sorry Sega no buy from me. When i first saw the trailers over a year ago the appeal of this game to me was the minigames. I didn’t care about the main story, i just wanted to get lost in a city of Japanese culture.
Your decision to cut content has forced me from 100% day 1 buy to 100% no buy at all. You guys have seriously lost touch with your fans this generation, and its decisions like this that made you quit the console manufacturing business 10 years ago.
Bravo Sega, Bravo. I hope this game bombs at retail to teach you a lesson.
Posted by Gezbox on February 24th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Comment # 148
Highly disappointing Sega, First a terrible port of Bayonetta to the PS3 and now cutting content on a niche game. Why would you do that? Were you that so short in time that you needed to cut content in order to release the game the same week as Final Fantasy XIII? This game just went from a must own to a maybe I will buy it when it hits the bargain bin
Posted by Teknobo on February 24th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Comment # 149
As someone who has never been a supporter of cutting content out of games, even back in the SNES/Genesis days, this is a huge disappointment. This is the type of practice you would expect 15 years ago, not today.
I held off on importing because I was hoping you guys would localize it, and now that you’re going to localize a cut version of the game I’m not interested. Please reconsider SEGA, especially since you’re planning on releasing on the same day as FFXIII. That’s just asking for the game to tank. Take some extra time to get everything worked out.
Posted by Polt on February 24th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Comment # 150
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
-the hostess bars were a huge part of the yakuza experience. it’s like cutting the biggest sidequest from a game. this isn’t just a ‘little less trivia’.
-i would rather have NO version of yakuza 3 rather than a butchered version.
-canceled my preorder.
Posted by kevin on February 24th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Comment # 151
shame on you SEGA!!!
it s many year that here in the west we enjoy videogame, anime, manga and movie from the east… we do understand japanese culture a bit…and we like it!
yours it s only PATHETIC EXCUSES!
Posted by masaru on February 24th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Comment # 152
First Bayonetta PS3 port and now this?
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Posted by Ryan on February 24th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Comment # 153
I like many others are not purchasing Yakuza 3 due to this travesty. Release the cut content as free DLC, it’s never a wise business decision to aggravate your loyal customers.
Posted by Deifitrec on February 24th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Comment # 154
I just saved this web page with ALL the messages intact.
Just in case some Sales executive at Sega wonder why this game does poorly in the west and somehow this page got deleted, perhaps I could have something to show them why people are not buying.
Posted by JennaN on February 24th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Comment # 155
Hi Sega.
Why not rename Tokyo to New York and Okinawa to Los Angeles while you’re at it? Oh, and you better give all the character western-looking faces, or else someone might suspect that this game has something to do with Japan in any way.
Jesus Christ, this unparalleled stupidity of yours just blows my mind. Preorder cancelled, I hope you choke on a chopstick.
Posted by Hurring and Durring on February 24th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Comment # 156
They can’t add the content back since the game is in mass production, unless they release dlc that “unlocks” the blocked content.
Whoever the project manager was on this game should be fired. You’re already releasing a game in japanese with subtitles, why wouldn’t you want to include aspects of japanese culture? The hostess club would have been a big draw as relationship and dating aspects are hugely popular in other games like Mass Effect. Also the decision to release on the release date of final fantasy was a boneheaded decision.
Posted by smiley o'brien on February 24th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Comment # 157
this… is unforgivable. even though im new to the yakuza franchise, the demo had me pumped and i was looking forward to this game. but now i wont buy it for the simple reason that it will leave a bad taste in my mouth because i KNOW we are playing a crippled version.
Oh yeah… it seems you fucked up the cover as well.
This bullshit reminds me of Persona 1. only difference is that you cant get away with it in this day and age. so consider me another lost sale.
Posted by Jasper on February 24th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Comment # 158
Me and my friends spent the last week playing the demo getting excited about this. As a matter of fact I pre-ordered the game this morning when I bought another SEGA game sonic racing. If a SEGA employee contact me I will gladly send a copy of my receipt. Sadly, Now I have to go back and cancel my pre-order because you had to give us a censored copy.
Thank god for region unlocked PS3′s.
Congratulations SEGA USA now no one will buy this copy they’ll buy the UK. Especially for a niche game.
” Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia. ”
That doesn’t cut it.
What makes it especially ridiculous is that when you go to the hostess bar in the Demo it just teases you and says wait for the full game. But wait the full game doesn’t have it. I hope ya’ll get sued for false advertisement.
I really hope ya’ll pull a switcharoo and just give us the UK copy before it goes gold. Otherwise it looks like my money will go squarely towards FFXIII and these dollars can go to a UK import shop.
Posted by William Tyrrell on February 24th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Comment # 159
SEGA, you’re making it very very difficult for me.
On one hand I know this game isn’t gonna be a big blockbuster since it’s so niche… so I can’t blame you for putting limited resources on the localization, hence the cuts.
On the other hand I wanted to support the effort. Poor sales of Yakuza3 means no Yakuza4 in the West and everyone loses.
I certainly hope that this is not a twisted DLC scheme that we often see from japanese publishers (e.g. Ace Combat 6 or SoulCalibur4 with “DLC” that’s already on the disc).
I guess I’ll still get the game, but damn, that’s sad.
Posted by GlassFrog on February 24th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Comment # 160
from germany:
i looked sooooo much forward to this game…it was my personal game of the year 2010 (yeah that early i knew it already!)…i had buyed…star ocean for ps3, bioshock 2, god of war 3, megaman 10, gta episodes from liberty AND Yakuza 3…but now…iam NOT going to buy it anymore! Sorry but there is nothing else left but hate for you…
1 Year of waiting for nothing!
today me and my friends cancelled the pre order!!! and we alone were 4 guys, means 4 sure sells for you SEGA…but now, no ones going to buy this game anymore:( i would rather play the japanese version and don,t get anything of the story instead of this butchered piece of crap:(
Please give us a lil hope and tell us, all content will be brought back in form of free dlc!
Posted by His0ka on February 24th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Comment # 161
Not trolling. You people are all just wastes of life.
You’re honestly getting this upset?
When did the population get so soft and worthless?
Sorry they took away your virtual tits.
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Comment # 162
Oh dear. I hope we get some satisfactory response soon (and hopefully a solution for this issue). I will wait few days whether or not I cancel my pre-order. I really wanted to get this game but as of now, I cannot support the decisions Sega has made.
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
*sigh* If it comes down to this, I have to vote “no” for the western release. This is a sad day for Yakuza fans.
Posted by KKiryu on February 24th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Comment # 163
Thanks Sega, you just saved me from spending ~300€ on a new PS3. Guess my gaming PC will be updated after all.
Seriously though -Yakuza 3 caters to a rather small niche in the west…and you just took a pretty big du*p on that very core audience. It’s like you actually *want* Y3 to fail…seriously it would have been better if you hadn’t even bothered. Better no Y3 as a cut, half-assed, westernized Y3…
Posted by Noodles on February 24th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Comment # 164
james they took away a good 5-15 hours of gameplay and also multiple minigames for no reason. If this happened to your favorite series (like a whole level or chapter being deleted) you would be ok with that?
sega announce a fix asap please!
Posted by Matt on February 24th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Comment # 165
@James
They didn’t take out the virtual tits, you uncouth jackanape. You can still date, they just took out the hostess club MANAGEMENT. It’s the fact that Sega took ANYTHING out that’s a huge disappointment.
But keep on trolling, bro.
Posted by Jarsh on February 24th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Comment # 166
How is it better for the audience to cut content? How does that please fans? Does it appear that folks are happy about you cutting content from the US/UK?
To whomever made this decision, you are a fool and you don’t understand why we enjoy the Yakuza series: because it lets us step into another country and social society that is unlike our own.
When I walk down the streets of Yakuza 1 & 2, I have fond memories of my time in Japan. I even recognized the giant crab from Shinjuku. While I didn’t go to a hostess club, seeing it in a video game is my only opportunity to enter one as they’re not open to foriegners in Japan. Clearly, this racial stigmata is extended from Sega to the fans in the US/UK and what I consider to be a grave insult to your English speaking audience.
In addition, if you cut Mahjong, Shogi, and other mini-games you are further hindering the sales of your game with every cut made from the first release of the Japanese game.
Posted by Me on February 24th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Comment # 167
Terrible, absolutely terrible decision. If the hostess club wasn’t in the original game, I’m sure most people wouldn’t care. However, the product that is going to be shipped out to stores is an incomplete product when compared to the one in Japan. Not only that but it is full price. Furthermore, SEGA waited till two weeks before the game is released to reveal this information. I’m also sure that they would not have revealed it if they were not questioned by IGN in regards to cut content. Do they think their customers are stupid?
Conclusion: As hard as this is, it is a no buy for me. I wouldn’t want to give money to a company who treats their loyal fans and customers like trash.
Posted by MKDWolf on February 24th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Comment # 168
Poor move SEGA, was quite looking forward to this but I don’t think I could enjoy it knowing so much has been cut out. Maybe I’ll wait for it to hit bargin prices, but even then it leaves a bad taste.
Hostess Bars are one of the cool quirky japanese features people are buying this game for!
Posted by PaperFace on February 24th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Comment # 169
If the guys at Sega put themselves in the position of a hardcore fan who has supported this series they would understand the need to make sure every bit of content made it over. It’s not like it requires voice work, it’s just text and where as I was going to get this in-between Heavy Rain and GOWIII I will pass it up, no excuse to cut content, none.
Posted by Doesn'tmakesense on February 24th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Comment # 170
>Your comment is awaiting moderation.
REALLY now? You can keep the truth from these people all you want, I will let them know.
You WILL feel my wrath, Sega, I promise you that, so run while you still can.
Oh, and to the guy reading this: You will be the first to suffer for withholding my wise words from the public. I’m done playing your silly games.
Posted by Hurring and Durring on February 24th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Comment # 171
You know what, Sega? I have been a longtime fan of your games and consoles. Why do you ALWAYS have to give us that extra slap in the face? The hostess bars are optional, why remove them? Do not lie to us and say release time. This game came out in Japan years ago. You bring games to the US expecting them not to do too well…this is why things were cut. Save money, no budget, less work. The biggest mistake is then angering the small population of people who WERE DEFINITELY going to buy the game. Sega, you never fail to blow my mind.
Posted by Mike on February 24th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Comment # 172
I am very disappointed. Why was it necessary to remove content? To release a niche game in the busiest month of the year? Sega, it seems like you are trying to destroy any chance of the Yakuza series being successful in the west.
At least add this stuff as DLC if it was a budget issue. Although I doubt people will be happy with that too…
Posted by Pharaoh_88 on February 24th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Comment # 173
waah sniffle
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Comment # 174
I’m torn between picking up a used version, or import it. I’m really hoping that a patch is announced to fix the censoring. It was going to be a day 1 purchase for me, but now I’m not so sure. SEGA, please listen to your fans!!
Posted by J.T. on February 24th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Comment # 175
OH NO, SEGA WHY DID YOU REMOVE MY VIRTUAL DATING? HOW WILL I EVER FULFIL MY DREAM OF MARRYING A BEATUFUL JAPANESE MAIDEN WITHOUT THE HOSTESS SEGMENTS WHICH I NATURALLY JUST PULL OUT FAQS TO ACE WITHOUT ANY POINTLESS TRIAL AND ERROR. EVEN IF THIS COULD BE UNDONE WITH DLC, PRE-ORDER CANCELED.
Posted by Derkus on February 24th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Comment # 176
This decision really is confusing now the more think about it, isn’t Stardust a major part of the Yakuza franchise?
It’s a host club as well and that hasn’t been cut, how does it “resonate” anymore with the western market than the hostess ones?
What about all the items, shops and locker keys that revolve around this content? They are now broken …
As for removal of the trivia game Atlus has shown twice that it can be done smartly with the Persona series.
Rushing this niche product out just to knock heads with Final fantasy XIII and then cutting content to appease the stereotypical fps junkies of this gen (who won’t even buy the game anyway) was a terrible decision (true fans would of waited longer for the complete game if given the choice), very disappointing.
Posted by Shuya on February 24th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Comment # 177
@ James…
You claim that everyone has no lives for caring about this game, yet you have spent quite some time replying to our posts. Hypocrisy is always good for a laugh…
That being said I haven’t completely given up on Sega. They could still do the right thing!
Posted by James (the one from post #25) on February 24th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Comment # 178
I mean SEGA never treats us TRUE FANS with proper respect. Remember when we complained about the English translation in the original western Yakuza? WHAT DID THEY DO? THEY GAVE US A FULL JAPANESE VERSION WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES. HOW WERE WE SUPPOSED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING?! OF COURSE WE DIDN’T BUY YAKUZA 2. AND NOW WHEN THEY FINALLY THINK WE CAN HANDLE YAKUZA 3 WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY SLAP ON A LESS COOL BOX ART AND TAKE OUT ACTIONLESS PARTS OF AN ACTION ADVENTURE GAME.
Why are you so heartless SEGA?!
Posted by Derkus on February 24th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Comment # 179
your are increasing the comment count so I thank you derkus…more people comment, the more pressure for a fix
you are also one of the 1 or 2 defending sega. Very much in the minority here
Posted by Matt007b on February 24th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Comment # 180
Yup, this was going to be the month I get a PS3, too. Y3 was the game that tipped me over the edge. It was in my budget. This news made me reassess that, and I’ll be waiting awhile and digging into my gaming backlog instead.
Posted by Sam. on February 24th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Comment # 181
@comment 177,
So wait, you are trying to be clever and rip on fans yet you reference Yakuza 2? A game that was severely delayed and under marketed. Clever indeed.
Posted by kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Comment # 182
Sorry but no sale for me as well. There is just too much content for me to buy an inferior product due to edit/cut content. I have canceled my preorder and if I do ever buy this it will be from the bargain used bins or an import of the Asia/JP Best version. This was a game I was looking forward to and had high hopes… alas that is no longer the case. Maybe you guys should just build in English language support into your Asia released games and then I could import those right off the bat and not have to worry about gutted localizations.
Posted by Rhodes on February 24th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Comment # 183
I purchased Yakuza 2 new when it was released (which you got RIGHT) and this is how you thank the fans? We can only hope you don’t cut content from Yakuza 4.
Posted by Me on February 24th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Comment # 184
@William Tyrrell
I’m pretty sure the UK copy will be effectively censored as well, this same blog post is on the Sega european blog, though things are silent over there.
Posted by JumboMan on February 24th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Comment # 185
All things considered, I’ll probably still get the game. But it’s not a Day-1 game anymore. It’s not like March isn’t chock full of day-one titles anyway. Most likely I’ll be waiting until the price drops (which, I imagine, won’t be too long, given how it’s competing against much bigger titles and how the core audience is turning their back on the game).
Sega, delay the game if you must. Y3 is a niche game. There is no reason why it HAS to be released in March. Know your audience.
Posted by Tivor on February 24th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Comment # 186
AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? PUT TAKE OUT MINIGAMES THAT WERE ESSENTUAL TO THE VERY PLOT, THE TRUE ESSENSE OF THE YAKUZA EXPERIENCE. MAHJONG? Do you not remember SEGA when you had Kazuma go to a Mahjong Bar that one time? HOW COULD YOU REMOVE IT AFTER ALL THAT HISTORY? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF YOUR TRUE FANS KNOW HOW TO PLAY THAT GAME?!!!!
And in its place what are we supposed to do? Listen to Kazuma sing at a karaoke bar?! PLAY GOLF? GO FISHING?! THOSE WERE NOT IN THE ORIGNAL TWO YAKUZAS SEGA! HOW DARE YOU CHANGE ANYTHING!
Posted by Derkus on February 24th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Comment # 187
Cancelled my pre-order today, which was paid in full by the way. I might pick up the import version later on and play with a guide, but probably not. There’s so many other games coming out over the course of the next several months that I’m not paying for a gimped version of this game.
Sorry guys. Yakuza 2 is still one of my favorite PS2 titles but you fucked up on this one.
Posted by Daniel on February 24th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Comment # 188
Not buying now, I cancelled my pre-order. I’ll only buy the game when you (sega) provides the cut content via DLC. Thanks a ton, as I have been excited over the release since it was announced. Now I feel cheated.
Posted by Matthew on February 24th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Comment # 189
Good on you being up front with the fans, sega. Unfortunately you’ve not understood that many of us buy the Yakuza games specifically because we find other cultures interesting and appealing.
If I want a game geared towards a western audience I will buy a western game. If it comes down to cutting content or not localizing a game at all, I say keep your censored version off my store shelves.
I hope you acquire enough sales from a larger market to make up for the loss from the fans of the series, because I will not be buying Yakuza 3 as I originally intended.
Posted by creath carter on February 24th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Comment # 190
No purchase from me. This is coming from a person who bought multiple copies of the first and second installment on day one. Short of Nagoshi-san saying, “NO you are not allowed to include this content in the US version” there is simply no excuse you can give that will be satisfactory. Another boneheaded move by Sega of America. You guys really just don’t get it do you?
Posted by Johnny on February 24th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Comment # 191
I’m just mad that my life is so trivial.
I guess I’ll just rant on the internet about these pointless trivialities in an effort to prescribe meaning to my otherwise meaningless existence.
Thank god the internet exists, or only like, 7 people in the world would ever hear my bitching.
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Comment # 192
Not buying your game because your removal of content is pig disgusting.
Posted by asdafsafas on February 24th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Comment # 193
Complain that someone is wasting their time complaining on the internet by complaining about them? Irony or stupidity? You decide.
Posted by kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Comment # 194
I fully expect to see the French cut from Napoleon as Americans can’t resonate with that.
Not to mention the dolphins in Ecco, cause land mammals can’t resonate with that.
Posted by Velsper on February 24th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Comment # 195
Sega, thank you for bringing this game to the US. Don’t let the haters get to you and definitely don’t let them dissuade you from considering other games such as Yakuza 4 and others for the US audience. I swear some people just like to complain. I pre-ordered this game the moment I heard it was coming to the US and cannot wait to play it.
Posted by Neil on February 24th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Comment # 196
Sorry Kakizaki (stupid name), but every crying baby needs to be slapped every now and then.
Wake up. You were having a nightmare that the world was ending, but then you realized that game you wanted was missing some content that you wouldn’t like anyway. Omg it wasn’t a nightmare! The world IS ending!
Done. Later.
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Comment # 197
Congratulations Sega, you took what was a guaranteed sale from me and turned it into a no sale.
Way to bugger things up.
Once again, game companies nannying gamers because they think we’re not mature enough to handle certain types of content.
Kiss my @$$ Sega.
Posted by Lard on February 24th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Comment # 198
Everyone, just buy the JP version for cheap and use thepatrick’s walkthrough on GameFAQS. Don’t bother buying the retarded chopped up US version. I know my preorder is cancelled.
Posted by Anonymous on February 24th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Comment # 199
I can’t wait to play this game. This will probably be the last game I buy, because videogames and the people who love them are pointless.
Posted by Malphy on February 24th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Comment # 200
I paid my pre-order in full when I first heard Yakuza 3 would be coming stateside.
I will be cancelling my pre-order. Hell, I’m not even interested in FFXIII, BF:BC2, or GoW3. I guess I won’t have a reason to fire up my PS3 for anything for a while. I expect End of Eternity will also be given a terrible localization.
Posted by Channing on February 24th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Comment # 201
Well, I was on the fence after Europe got extra content that NA had to pre-order to get, but after this, I’m out.
Sega, you just don’t get your customers. No wonder you’re just a software developer now.
And with bungles like this, it won’t be for much longer either.
Posted by Lard on February 24th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Comment # 202
SEGA FAILS AGAIN.
HAHA
And to think, I actually like the series!
Posted by Dante on February 24th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Comment # 203
But I never knew the depth of your betrayal, the void within your collective souls until you cut content from a video game. THIS KIND OF ATROCITY HAS NEVER BEEN COMMITED BEFORE. YOU THINK OPENLY ADMITING IT BEFORE THE GAME IS RELEASED AND NOT LISTENING TO OUR JUSTIFIED OUTCRY WILL PLACATE US? NAMCO BANDAI FREQUENTLY HORDES WHATEVER TALES OF SERIES THEY DEEM IS UNSUITABLE FOR NON JAPANESE EVEN WHEN IT IS PROVEN UNPLAYABLE AFTER A MARKET CYCLE OF ITS CLOSED RELEASE, EA WILL NOT THINK TWICE ABOUT DROPPING A DEVELOPER AFTER THEY’VE MADE THEIR LAST GAME BUT YOU SEGA, there is a special place in hell that is reserved only for you. This is why you have fallen from grace; this is why you’re nothing more than a slave to console owning companies and former rivals.
You have destroyed your own game and removed content that is in the Japanese version. I hope are satisfied with whatever sick joy you got out of doing this. BECAUSE I WILL NEVER EVER TRUST YOU AGAIN AFTER THIS UNFORGIVABLE SIN YOU HAVE COMMITED!
Posted by Derkus on February 24th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Comment # 204
Nice insult James. Sorry, but I find your response more pathetic than painful. I highly doubt that was the end of your comments. Your comments in the response column are far more “stupid” than any name.
Say what you want about people complaining about cut content, Sega’s timing was horrible no matter what type of spin you put on the situation.
Posted by kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Comment # 205
Well great job Sega, you just lost 3 preorders for Yakuza 3 mine and 2 friends and if this is how youre going to be doing the games in the future, thanks for all the great games thru the years but this is it, i´m done with sega games unfortuantly that means missing some great titles but i can´t support things like this and a clear message needs to be sent, hopefully Sega will realise their mistakes and really do somthing to better themself, let´s just hope it´s not to late.
Posted by AngerdX on February 24th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Comment # 206
Don’t shoot yourself in the foot. How about a FREE DLC to address this issue. Then, I’ll throw down $60.
Posted by EveryonePoops on February 24th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Comment # 207
No Hostess
No Mahjong
No thanks
Just went to Gamestop and cancelled my preorder. Much rather use my money on a game that isn’t censored.
Posted by mister bigger on February 24th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Comment # 208
Is it possible to release the hostess club experience as DLC?
Posted by Mikael Berg on February 24th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Comment # 209
Hey Sega,
Ever heard of Fans translation project? I don’t condone piracy but stuff like this pushing us, as real fans who happened don’t understand japanese language to follow that path.
Posted by shinz on February 24th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Comment # 210
Gotta get a kick out of trolls who only elicit more activity in a thread instead of dissuading people that their point of view is incorrect. Counter intuitive anybody?
Posted by kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Comment # 211
What SEGA did is disgusting. I can cry. They better watch the upcoming videos. SEGAm you should be ashamed of what you have done!!
GIVE US THE WHOLE GAME!!! ITS A RIP OFF!!! WHY SHOULD I LET YOU HAVE MY YAKUZA 3 PLAQUE!! YOU DON’T DESERVE IT!!!
Posted by dragonofdojima17 on February 24th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Comment # 212
You know… for someone who claims to want to be upfront about things you are surprisingly vague about what’s been cut. What are you hiding? Massages, Shogi, Mahjong, Loser, what else?
If you actually are upfront about it let’s see the full list of things you shafted and the reason behind it.
Posted by Velsper on February 24th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Comment # 213
SEGA, I BEG OF YOU!!! DON’T DO THIS!!! PLEASE!!
Posted by dragonofdojima17 on February 24th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Comment # 214
Wow. I was really excited about the Hostess Bars. Its one of the games main attractions.
This makes me very uncertain.
Posted by ShenmueAxm on February 24th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Comment # 215
What an absolutely mindblowing decision. How can you guys be so dense? The only people who are buying Yakuza 3 to begin with are the ones who’ve been with the series from the beginning… and you just pissed them all off. Congratulations. Announce free DLC plans to give us the complete game or else I’ll be seeing you in the bargain bin, I guess.
Posted by Jacky on February 24th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Comment # 216
I’m disappointed again by Sega… lock-on cut from Sonic’s Ultimate Genesis Collection because of “time constraints” and now this. Thanks, Sega!
On a positive note, your racing game looks good. If you release some more characters as DLC, I’ll probably buy it.
Posted by Ryan on February 24th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Comment # 217
With this revelation and no other information about what is missing from this game, I’ll take no chances. No buy. What yakuza world would lack host/hostess clubs, mahjong or shogi?
You guys had better be quick with the damage control on this, or a game that only ever had a slim level of profitability will certainly be a loss.
Posted by xdy on February 24th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Comment # 218
Preorder cancelled. You just lost another sale, Sega.
Posted by rev on February 24th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Comment # 219
I’m sorry, but like many others here I will now not be buying this game. The Yakuza franchise was fun because it held onto the Japanese cultural references and allowed me to see things about Japan that I could only otherwise do with a plane ticket and few spare weeks.
SEGA, you *really* screwed the pooch on this one.
Posted by Kurt on February 24th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Comment # 220
For those that are upset with Sega for cutting out content. I say just for the Japanese version at http://www.play-Asia.com. I am going to by the Japanese version and follow a walkthrough that has everything translated.
Posted by Carlos on February 24th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Comment # 221
“mostly involving the Hostess Clubs and the Japanese History trivia sections. ”
“Mostly”? Do you mean that there’s more?
What exactly, since you’re being “upfront”?
It all boils down to a very simple concept. It’s 2010, Sega sunshines. We live in a globalized world. It’s not acceptable, nowadays, to see part of a culture cut out of a game because (according to an absolutely clueless publisher) it would not “resonate” with the local fanbase. And please, don’t come to us telling that giving the entire experience would have meant “no yakuza 3 in the west”, because we all know that this has to do with cutting corners, and not with “resonance” between the japanese culture and the western fanbase.
Who took the decision? What are the exact causes? Since you’re going to be “upfront” let’s hear it all.
Want to give us DLC? Give us the parts you cut as DLC. And I mean free DLC. You think some of us wouldn’t “resonate” with some areas of Japanese culture? Great. Let us chose if we resonate or not. I, for one, think can resonate with it very well, and most gamers i know would as well.
If you want to read my complete opinion, you can find it here:
http://classygamer.blogspot.com/2010/02/sega-cutting-hostess-clubs-from-euus.html
Posted by Abriael on February 24th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Comment # 222
Sure, take out the history quizzes, but to remove the hostess bars which were so much a part of the first two games is ridiculous.
Posted by Knaylomo on February 24th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Comment # 223
CUT CONTENT SELLING AT FULL PRICE
MAKE $10 HOSTESS CLUB DLC
NO MAHJONG!
NO SHOGI!
NO CHESS!
FINAL DESTINATION
Posted by Enjoy Ur Aids on February 24th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Comment # 224
Went from a buy to a no-buy, enjoy losing money.
Posted by Flip on February 24th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Comment # 225
Pre-order canceled. Seriously, this is an amazingly dimwitted decision. The demographic most likely to buy this does not want edited stuff, ever. This game was never going to be a mass market seller, and now you’ve hurt its niche sales. I’d sell my Sega stock while I was at it, but at only $3.02 a share, it’s not worth the commission fee to do it.
“Sega, you just don’t get your customers. No wonder you’re just a software developer now.” Truer words were never spoken.
Posted by Aaron on February 24th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Comment # 226
As someone who purchased and enjoyed Yakuza 1 and 2 i unfortunately will NOT be purchasing the 3rd after hearing of cuts that have been made.
You Sega are making a huge mistake in doing this since the vast majority of the buyers of this game were going to be fans of the previous games and not players new to the series. We’ve been waiting for a very long time for a localization of this game so you can bet almost all of us have read a ton about the Japanese release and all it contained. Saying you’ve removed content as you hopefully can tell is not something that sits well w/ the fans of the previous games.
Disappointing news for fans but its going to be far more disappointing for you when this niche game does even worse w/out a large part of its fanbase to support it.
Posted by Michael on February 24th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Comment # 227
Sega you got owned agian. I was never going to buy this game. I just want to make one thing clear, We are for the majority Americans. You do not censor stuff in America, we thrive on freedom of speech. Taking away things that you think Americans can not handle has always pissed me off from every major japans gaming company(Square). They do not do that anymore. There is no way for you to censor things and get away with it anymore. Good job pissing off the remaining fan base for your games.
P.S Valkyria Chronicles is still bad ass. I <3 it
Posted by CloudStrife on February 24th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Comment # 228
That’s really lame Sega.
You’re supposed to add things not take them away.
Was it really too much effort to make subtitles for the hostesses?
Thank god I was procrastinating on that pre-order.
Consider yourself lucky I’m still renting it.
Posted by Artemis on February 24th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Comment # 229
Cancelled my pre-order
I wouldn’t want to give money to a company who treats their loyal fans and customers like idiots
Posted by Akira on February 24th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Comment # 230
@James
“Horny cry babies want virtual women. ”
You…. you do realize not only males are protesting these changes, right?
Posted by megamixer on February 24th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Comment # 231
Hello SEGA, just wanted to chime in as someone else that was getting the game and is now not. Plenty of stuff coming out this spring so I don’t have time to waste on half-assed products.
Posted by nyoron on February 24th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Comment # 232
lol cutting out content and then saying the western fans will be enjoying these free dlc codes in their release, where as in japan it was all free, no matter if you bought a used version or not. smooth move sega.
also i highly doubt time restrains are a reason for cutting out hostess, you guys would’ve only had to translate 100 or so lines of text. Coming from a proud owner of Ryu ga Gotoku 3, I will be picking up Ryu ga Gotoku 4 in March instead of your shoddy release.
Posted by feetbattler on February 24th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Comment # 233
If SEGA is ever going to release Yakuza 4 in the west, they better release it without content cut and release it faster than Yakuza 3 was released in the west after the original Japanese launch.
I will skip Yakuza 3 and I hope you will make a better job with Yakuza 4.
Posted by Whatever on February 24th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Comment # 234
Way to go Sega! Yakuza is going down the way Sonic went! Thanks for killing off your franchises one by one! You’ll have more time to concentrate on NEW IPs! /sarcasm
Posted by JJ on February 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Comment # 235
So you made a choice for the fans that many fans wouldn’t like? That doesn’t make sense.
Posted by Saintdante on February 24th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Comment # 236
Well I’m disapointed, not with the Trivia I can live without the Trivia, but the Hostess bars why? They were in the first two games, so why cut them out of the third game….
Thanks Sega, thanks for screwing us over some more…either put it back in through DLC or delay it a little longer and listen to the FANS who are going to sink their MONEY into this game….
Posted by Daniel on February 24th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Comment # 237
For gods sake… You tripped on the finish line Sega. By removing stuff, you have guarantee I won’t be buying the game.
Posted by Rezel on February 24th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Comment # 238
Not sure if anyone at Sega is actually reading all these flames, but I should speak up anyway.
I am disappointed and have cancelled my preorder. I will probably wait until it hits $30 or sega releases all the cut content as DLC.
Shame, but I have plenty of other games to play and Sega made the decision easier for me.
Posted by Ykf on February 24th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Comment # 239
I just wanted to say that I hope those that push for it, can win the fight with Yakuza 4 and release the game translated and uncut.
I’m also crossing my fingers for a DLC release that returns the removed content. While I, personally, don’t care for the hostess client gameplay, I did have fun playing the host missions where you ran the club. That was really well done in Yakuza 2 and it’s a major disappointment that we don’t get to see it in the English release. I was hoping for a the same gameplay experience but we sadly won’t get that. You’ve let a lot of people down and you’re going to see less revenue because of it, I’m certain.
Posted by Killrig on February 24th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Comment # 240
Come on sega! Just put the hostess clubs back in the game. I mean its really stupid that you game them to us in the first two games but not this one. Thats just totally unfair to the fans.
Posted by Cortez on February 24th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Comment # 241
Seriously…?
You guys just went a stop down in my book… this isn’t cool, there is absolutely no need for cutting content, if anything more should be added.
Isn’t half the fun of bringing a game like this so we can someone get an idea of what their culture is like?
I know it’s not huge but you’re taking out content of a game that was released a year ago…
Posted by Noctis on February 24th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Comment # 242
This is really disappointing. This is now a no buy for me as well, and I was really enthused about it coming out too.
Posted by Ash on February 24th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Comment # 243
i am a huge yakuza fan and i preordered yakuza 3 from amazon, but after reading at kotaku.com that u guys cut the hostess clubs content (even though this was in yakuza 1 and 2) and other things, guess what sega? i cancelled my preorder from amazon and am not buying this game anymore. gg for ruining yakuza 3.
Posted by ganner on February 24th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Comment # 244
I preordered Yakuza 3 because I love japanese culture. I even planned to buy a PS3 just for this game because I don’t own one.
With these cuts made I’m CANCELLING my PREORDER. Sorry SEGA you once again let me down.
The hostess club is a very Yakuza-like-thing that is very common in yakuza cinema. And to cut that part away is ridiculous.
The trivia I can understand but not the hostess club
NO BUY!!
Posted by a Swedish guy on February 24th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Comment # 245
Well that settles that, I will also be cancelling my pre-order. Hostess bars are a big part of the series, and a big part of what makes Yakuza.
And I completely disagree with Sega being ‘upfront’ with the fans. This decision and cuts were made months and months ago. The only reason Sega is saying anything now at all, is because the reviews will soon be coming out and Sega wanted to beat them to the punch.
I actually find the timing of this announcement underhanded and sleazy, as Sega waited until the last possible moment to announce this, with the hopes and intentions that a lot of our dollars were already tied to pre-orders. Sega could care less what the “sell through” numbers are, they are concerned with how many they sell to the stores. And at this stage the stores have already had to place their orders primarily based off pre order numbers.
As far as I am concerned this is a complete bait and switch and Sega will no longer be getting any money from me.
Posted by Curry Udon on February 24th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Comment # 246
Just wanted to say that I will no longer pick up this game. Why does SEGA think they need to cut out the content for US release? Do you think we are that stupid to not recognize a cultural difference between Japan and USA? I hope Yakuza 4 will arrive in USA without any dumbing down since you clearly think we are too stupid to understand it. Please stop looking down on USA gamers, we are just as smart as Japanese counterparts.
Posted by Akira on February 24th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Comment # 247
Oh just one other note to Sega, if you’re going to release a niche game take a page from a company that only releases niche games and THRIVES, Atlus. They bring every game over 100% uncut and have a tremendous fan following for the quality work they do w/ their localizations. They know what their fans want and actually give it to them, a novel concept really.
Posted by Michael on February 24th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Comment # 248
Bad move Sega, bad move. The japanese stuff in the game is what makes it so damn unique and special. Release that content via DLC at least. You’re stabbing in the back many Yakuza fans out here in Europe and USA!
Posted by VeNoM on February 24th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Comment # 249
I will still be buying the game and supporting it, but I was looking forward to the hostess bars. Thought that stuff was pretty cool in the japanese demo.
Posted by Nerv_001 on February 24th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Comment # 250
sniffle
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Comment # 251
Nice work Sega. I switched my pre-order over to God of War III. I can count on those devs to deliver a complete and polished experience but you have shown many times in the past you put out halfassed, unfinished products. Keep the Yakuza series over in Japan. Don’t expect me to feel lucky that it’s coming over because frankly, Most Japanese devs can’t hold a candle to the West anymore. I only want Japanese games that take risks and don’t underestimate it’s audience, like Demon’s Souls.
The corporate speak in this article is amazing. “In addition, the western versions of the game will come pre-packaged with codes for the DLC, already localized and ready to be enjoyed.” Oh, don’t do me any favors here considering this same content was available in the Japanese market for FREE. Don’t try and gloss over the fact by saying these aren’t significant portions of gameplay. These affect everything from atmosphere, experience, side missions, and money in the game. Gamers, especially Yakuza’s target audience, are savvy, informed people. Try to learn from this experience and improve your pathetic company.
One last thing, if by some miracle Yakuza 4 gets a Western release just give it to Atlus. They know their audience, you obviously don’t.
Really the last comment but to all the other posters, SOME YAKUZA FANS AREN’T OTAKUS/WEABOOS/WAPANESE/WHATEVER. Some of us just like organized crime, good stories, and brawling action games.
Posted by ThulsaDooom on February 24th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Comment # 252
Dear sega,
I am really annoyed that you are cutting the hostest clubs from yakuza 3 and cutting other content. I will still be buying yakuza 3 but here is an idea. Why not localize yakuza 4 at the same time as you are making the japanese version and include both lanuages on the one disk ie like demon souls? Then people can import the game and you get more sales with out the cost of releasing it in america/europe.
Posted by Carl on February 24th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Comment # 253
Are you guys taking stupid pills again. Do you really want this game to do well, if so why the hell would you cut out content that you know would make everyone on the internet throw a sh*t fit. First you release the game in an already saturated month and then you tell us its incomplete… that is unacceptable. I really hope this game does well, but SEGA, you are making it harder for that to happen. Do the right thing and release a PATCH and apologize for having the shortsightedness of not thinking your target demographic for this game would not miss or care about the ABORTED content. Thanks for your time and I hope you make a logical and swift decision regarding the content you cut from the game.
Posted by Matt on February 24th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Comment # 254
I don’t support cut content or censoring. So I will not be getting this game now.
Posted by James Earl Cash on February 24th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Comment # 255
Come on Sega you made us wait, we have part four just around the corner, please dont be a Capcom and start taking out things we want just to sale them later, I dont see why this is such a big deal considering its been on the other two games. You actions here will dictace how I deal with games your campany is involved with in the future.
Posted by King on February 24th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Comment # 256
Yeah, I was gonna buy this but not now.
I cancelled my preorder this morning. Don’t dictate to us what is and is nto relevant to Western audiences and don’t charge full price for watered down seconds.
Posted by Luke Davis on February 24th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Comment # 257
What are you doing?
I thought you were localizing this game because legions of Yakuza fans (myself included) were getting on your case to do it. I thought you were bringing this over here because you liked us. I really enjoyed the hell out of visiting hostesses in previous games, but not as much as I enjoyed running my own damn club! I was pissed to hear that you cut content for what appears to be no reason at all. I kind of understand cutting AnswerxAnswer– I do– not all of us are Asian Studies majors who would actually have some shot at answering the trivia. I also understand cutting “Loser”– Yazawa Eikichi is a hotshot singer, and licensing this music for the US release probably presented itself as costing more than it was worth.
But I do have a damn clue why you would’ve cut all the hostess stuff. It was in the previous games and was enjoyed tremendously by people who gave Yakuza a shot back on the PS2 (fans like myself– who once again– I assumed you were trying to please by bringing this game over here). Even after hearing the hostess clubs were cut, I was still willing to forgive. But now that there are these nasty rumours floating around that you’ve also cut Mahjong, Shogi, and the massage parlors, I’m seriously getting a little miffed here. You have cut HOURS of gameplay out of Yakuza 3.
And what about the rest of the goddamn game? Won’t this make all the items I was supposed to buy for hostesses totally useless? You just ruined all the stores in the game and flooded me with boatloads of currency I will NEVER HAVE A USE FOR. Why on earth did you even rush localization for this? Was it really that important to have Yakuza 3 out in time to be massacred by Final Fantasy XIII? Was it about money? If so, the sales you’re going to lose with this nonsense decision of yours are going to heavily outweigh what it would have cost for you to hunker down and finish translating the goddamn game.
I mean, I’m just so confused. Few other companies go out of their way to piss off their supporters as much as you guys do. I’m really sad and disappointed– I think that’s the main point here. You have succeeded in making Yakuza fans SAD that Yakuza 3 is being translated. Bravo?
Posted by TheTimelyHoward@gmail.com on February 24th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Comment # 258
Wow, playing the demo made me want to play the game but I can so fully understand the rage by the commentators in this blog. This is a ridiculous stupid decision in terms of commercial gains (due to its niche appeal), and my tethering on whether to play it first-day is over. No purchase.
Posted by Impz on February 24th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Comment # 259
This is by far one of the worst travesties SEGA OF AMERICA/SEGA EUROPE has ever done since replacing the original japanese music in 1993′s Sonic CD, and deletion of the gay mid boss & revising 1994′s Streets Of Rage III to play more “gender neutral”.
Once again, SEGA has managed to piss everyone off by removing the “hostess bars” in the upcoming North American/European release of Yakuza 3. Further proof that the game brand i once adored, is forever lost in the memoirs of the late 20th century (God i so miss the 90′s).
you better hear the cries of all the people here, you better work something out later down the road and provide a patch to reinstate this deleted content. We live in an age where such discrimination on gamers (wherever their home markets be) should not be tolerated.
You wonder on low sales and lack of support?, then why in the world would you take one of your parent company’s highly-priced-in-developing titles, make us wait OVER ONE YEAR, have virtually NO ADVERTISING for it, and at the 11th hour (as im sure this game has gone gold) announce to the world that us western gamers will get a trimmed version of this game.
lets not forget your senseless decision on releasing it on the same day as one of the most anticipated titles, Final Fantasy XIII. Take note on FFVII’s intelligent western marketing back in 1997, not only did it elevated the series, but kept it intact to its Japanese counterpart, and the PS1 outsold everyone in the market, catapuling the RPG genre in such a difficult market.
unfortunately you’ll never learn, you’ll continue to disappoint us all in a likely effort to dry yourself to the ground and hope that a “western” gaming powerhouse like EA Games buys you out.
Bottom line, SEGA! YOU FUCKED UP! There, I said it.
Posted by Nestor J Galeano on February 24th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Comment # 260
Seriously Sega, are you really trying to make this game a failure?
1. You gave it the worst possible release date.
2. You gave it some atrocious artwork.
3. You make the DLC codes exclusive to ONE retailer in North America, and make it available to all in the Europe.
4. This is already a niche title with a following from people who want to experience the different culture presented in the game. By cutting content you are essentially telling whatever following from the niche crowd not to buy the game. If you didn’t want to put the effort into doing a proper release, maybe you should have licensed it to another publisher who would have done the game justice.
No support from me. Buying this game as-is would be condoning that content cutting is acceptable – which I am against. It’s 2010 already and these acts of content cutting should stop.
Posted by karga on February 24th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Comment # 261
seriously sega..i’ve just pre-ordered the collector’s edition because the demo of yakuza 3 just made me automatically promote yakuza 3 as my favorite ps3 game of all time, just like yakuza 1 & 2 were my favorite ps2 games of all time. Sega i got support for you and this is how you repay me and the other fans? I beg you sega please deliver this deleted content as DLC. Even if you charge for it i will buy it because i love the Yakuza series that much
Posted by Chris Franston on February 24th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Comment # 262
What about price then, if you are cutting content I can only assume you are cutting prices too
Posted by King on February 24th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Comment # 263
I just put down a preorder the other day. Will be pulling it tomorrow. Awful.
Posted by Hizke on February 24th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Comment # 264
What About DLC for the Hostess club ?
and the Japanese Travia?
Posted by bicyclerepairman on February 24th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Comment # 265
Just a brief request. Please, please, please do not remove the hostess club. Did I say please?
Posted by astra on February 24th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Comment # 266
And what other content might be cut from the game I wonder?, Shogi, anything that isn’t “western” enough for the “localization team”?, One thing to ponder is that if Yakuza 1 and 2 were any indication some of the hostess minigames actually lead to obtaining particular items, how are the players supposed to get them now? And who thought of the monumentally idiotic idea of releasing this game on the same day as Final Fantasy XIII? Sega of America must really hate the Yakuza brand for making so many blunders and allienating the true fans of this game, let’s face it the mainstream gamers were never going to buy it, it’s a niche market and pissing off the fans is not a good way to recoup the investment. I would expect this shoddy dealings from smaller companies but not from SEGA. It seems that the company is starting to repeat the same mistakes of the Saturn and Dreamcast era, such a shame you were se high on gamers minds with Valkyria Chronicles and now you piss all over that reputation.
Posted by otarumx on February 24th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Comment # 267
Knew you wouldn’t be able to stay away James. What was it you said about wasting time? Pathetic.
Posted by kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Comment # 268
Over 250 games “not sold” in just so little time after the announcement (and that is not counting those complaining on other blogs and game pages), Bravo SEGA if there ever was a company that was a master of shooting themselves in the foot it is you. My guess is that people are also angry about being so shady with the cuts, announcing them at the last minute and downplaying it using dumb excuses as “to foreign” “doesn’t resonate in the west” and so on. One thing that you have to learn is to never piss off the fans, because in case you didn’t notice the fans are your source of income and for a “niche” game they are even more so.
Posted by otarumx on February 24th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Comment # 269
I have this game pre-ordered and 100% pre-paid for. I am giving some serious consideration to getting my money back. This is not the days of the PS1, when it was acceptable to cut content like this. I assume it is too late to just put the content back in the game in any manner but DLC. I am waiting until March 8th for such an announcement. In all likelihood, I will not purchase the game if the content is not put back in. This is a huge disappointment and I would’ve thought you would have known better than to have done this.
Posted by Charles Lupula on February 24th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Comment # 270
~~~~~~~~~~I’M NO LONGER BUYING YAKUZA 3~~~~~~~~~~
I’m a HUGE Saturn/Dreamcast/SEGA fan but Sega is truly showing how STUPID and irrational their business decisions are the last couple of years. Even more so than their screw ups during Sega of America’s Saturn/Dreamcast days!
The company needs to take a course on LOGIC 101.
I’M DONE WITH SEGA FOR GOOD!!! WHAT AN AWFUL COMPANY!!!!
Posted by Kyle on February 24th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Comment # 271
Knew you wouldn’t be able to stay away James. What was it you mentioned earlier about wasting time? Yeah…
Posted by kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Comment # 272
This is your third Yakuza in the West, you can no longer consider the series to be too niche to sell outside of Japan. If you want to avoid disappointing your customers, Yakuza 4 should already be in the works and there should be absolutely no time constraints in localising and no concern for cultural differences. Give us the next game in its entirety and give it to us in a reasonable amount of time.
Posted by Jerec on February 24th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Comment # 273
I’m still pumped for this game and will be purchasing it on day 1. Hopefully, we’ll get to see 4 and Kenzan in the US in the future as well.
Posted by Paul S on February 24th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Comment # 274
Whoever is in charge of bringing this game to the states should be fired and publicly ridiculed.
People think it’s a GTA-style sandbox game, which it’s not. Clearly the team has failed at getting potential customers to understand the product.
But while we’re on the subject of misunderstanding, SEGA clearly doesn’t understand their customers…the people interested in this game have an interest in Japanese culture. You could have easily made the hostess club available in an options menu or something. Hell, it could’ve been DLC.
You have made a HUGE mistake here that fans will NEVER forgive you for. Burn in hell!
Posted by FormerSEGACustomer on February 24th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Comment # 275
wait so becuase you dragged your feet and didnt decide until late that you watned to release the game we lost content…I also assume there will be a price cut to for us right?
Posted by King on February 24th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Comment # 276
I just want to say that I’m keeping my pre-orders (yes, I’m buying two — one will be a gift), but I’m still disappointed that cuts were made due to cultural differences. The backpeddle on claiming it was a budget or scoping issue seems a little silly after the first statement was made in terms of the cut content not “resonating” with English speaking audiences.
If it really was an issue of not releasing the game at all VS cutting content, you would’ve been much better off stating that in the first place and not hiding the cuts from your fans for so long.
Posted by Killrig on February 24th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Comment # 277
http://kotaku.com/5479525/sega-yakuza-3-cuts-were-necessary-for-western-release-%5Bupdate%5D
See the update. Again, I doubt anyone would have been that upset had Sega of America decided to delay Yakuza 3 to ensure there was no cut content.
Why rush it to make a March release date when March is an over saturated release month this year? Makes zero sense.
Posted by kakizaki on February 24th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Comment # 278
That is a terrible excuse. If you need time to translate the hostess club conversations then I CAN WAIT. The hostess clubs were probably the most fun mini game for me from the first 2 games just because the conversations with the girls were so funny.
How would going out on dates with them even work if you don’t talk with them in the first place in the bars?
Posted by Jayj on February 24th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Comment # 279
dear sega:
this is going to be 2 long weeks of mass chaos and frustration from yakuza fans. Do us all a favor (reading from the kotaku article) and add the 1% you took from the game. Put it back, and all these cancelled preorders will flow back. We want Yakuza to succeed, we want sega to do well..all you gotta do is officially comment you will give us a DLC at a later time. DO IT.
Posted by matt on February 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Comment # 280
Sorry Letting everyone I know not to buy becuase removal of hostess parts(my fav part of game)
Posted by Derek on February 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Comment # 281
I’m contemplating emailing someone at Sega as well, but I thought I would quickly say my piece here as well. I still plan on getting the game. That’s the first thing I should say. Second, this is bullshit, and I don’t buy the lame excuse of “cut it or don’t release the game at all” crap. Do you honestly expect anyone with half a mind to believe that? It makes absolutely no sense, and I’m going to be cautious with everything you guys at Sega say from now on. I think there are a lot of things you don’t understand about your western audience, and doing things this way only serves to make people like me wary of your products. The only reason I’m still getting the game is because I’m pretty sure it’s going to disappear relatively soon. But whatever, in the future I’d expect better.
Posted by Sir Phobos on February 24th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Comment # 282
canceled pre-order
you guys had more than a year… disappointing…
If time can rectify this… BY ALL MEANS Sega… DELAY it! Otherwise… better luck next time if you brave (and competent) enough.
Posted by Terry on February 24th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Comment # 283
What was the sudden rush after being a year late? Trying to write the game off before the tax man demands his paperwork? The latest from Kotaku states that you ran out of time to fit things in, why couldn’t you have just given it more time? Why were the deadlines so strict after all delay?
Telling us this 2 weeks before launch is such a snide move. If you had done this a few months ago, all this rage from the fans who don’t want a butchered game can now only be used to push for free DLC. If we had known back then what we know now, maybe our words would have persuaded you to keep the content in. Now, now it’s too late, the discs are probably already printing and things are stuck, you’ll lose (and have already lost) a lot sales from what i’ve seen across news sites and here.
I will only buy the western release if the content is reinstated somehow. For Free.
Posted by Adam on February 24th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Comment # 284
Dear Sega rep/ community manager:
Please let your production and sales team know we, the customers, are disappointed with the contents being cut.
I can tolerate a longer wait time if time is what you need to bring us 100% of the game. But I will not pay full price for an incomplete game.
You will win back a lot of goodwill if you announce the missing content will be available as a free DLC. I really want Yakuza 3 to be successful and I look forward to Yakuza 4. Please do the right thing.
Posted by JennaN on February 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Comment # 285
I heard they’re changing the title to “Japanese Mafia” since “Yakuza” doesn’t resonate with western audiences.
But seriously we’re getting a price cut on this right since the game’s incomplete?
Posted by Deekman on February 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Comment # 286
Canceled pre-order
disappointing…
If this can be fixed if allowed more time, please delay the game. Otherwise better luck next time.
Posted by Terry on February 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Comment # 287
So that was the response? All right then, now I’ve also officially canceled my pre-order. I might dig this game up from bargain bin in later time.
Posted by KKiryu on February 24th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Comment # 288
a day of shattered dreams….
please tell me i wake up soon
myself is not able to play or watch things when i know something is CUT!
dang…
Posted by Toguro on February 24th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Comment # 289
I think you have it backwards Sega. Your suppose to add content not take it content away. Just canceled my pre-order. I would never buy an incomplete game.
Posted by Dean on February 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Comment # 290
What the!? I was looking forward Yakuza 3, and actually the hostess bar! It was fun in Yakuza 1 & 2 and was expecting a bigger and better hostess sub-game!
Thanks for ruining this game for me!
Now I will definitely spend my money on God of War III Ultimate trilogy.
Posted by Mannen on February 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Comment # 291
I will still buy the game and I do hope you make money so that we can get the next one, but this is pretty messed up so at least let us know you are going to offer is as FREE DLC soon
Posted by King on February 24th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Comment # 292
I really do hope Sega add the cut content via DLC (for free or otherwise i’m still not buying), because at the moment its a no buy from me.
What where they thinking when they thought cutting content was a good idea? I guarantee you Sega you easily lost 20% sales at least because of this decision.
Fine i understand cutting triva questions by the other minigames? Seriously who runs things over there? Gez man you guys have being losing your marbles ever since the Dreamcast died.
Actually I take it back, instead of cutting trivia questions, why didn’t you just redo the questions to something more Western?
You guys are Lazy developers and deserve to go out of buisness. I hope you don’t stuff up End of Enternity aswell….Oh wait a minute looks like you did when you didn’t fully translate it….
For shame Sega, for shame.
Posted by Gezbox on February 24th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Comment # 293
Yeah, I pre-ordered both Yakuza 1 & 2 and bought them at launch. I am not paying full price for a game missing content, I will cancel my pre-order and buy a pre-owned copy if content is taken out.
Posted by Lu on February 24th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Comment # 294
I’m sorry SEGA, But i was absolutely excited about Yakuza 3 until i heard this. I don’t want things cut because it’s too cultural in a JAPANESE YAKUZA game. You just lost my first day buy. Congratulations! Maybe somebody worth their salt will port the 4th game and do it right IE: Not cutting content on a year old game.
Posted by kamikit on February 24th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Comment # 295
SEGA …. I am cancelling my-preorder. I will not be buying a censored game with cut content, becuase its is not “American/Western” enough.
Why do you think we want yakuza in the 1st place? Its not because we the consumers want a another watered down over saturated generic brawler like (the 1xxxxx FPS already out there) We want it because in essence it is art, that we appreciate. To cut the content is the very CENORSHIP of art itself. It is quite ignorant and almost obsecenely racist beause you think we “wont understand it”.
Seriously… you have till the realease to re-establish my trust in you again… I look forward to your QUIZ and HOST CLUB DLC CONTENT………. As of right now 2/24/2010 I am canecelling my pre-order.
Posted by KingGainer on February 24th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Comment # 296
*sigh*
You only removed them because you thought us Americans, and other non Japanese folks, wouldn’t understand? That’s what I’m getting at. rather dumb thing to do for, if my reason is correct, a stupid reason.
We wouldn’t learn if you don’t teach us. Let us experiance it. Though I already preordered, before this was announced, and I have to say, I’ll still get it, but DON’T DO THIS AGAIN WITH YAKUZA 4!!!
Hell, the game is finished right? Get this onto DLC pronto, and tell everyone about it so we can add it before starting the whole game.
Posted by Rsien hell fire on February 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Comment # 297
I’m sure it has been said through here, but there is no excuse that this should be a time constraint. As it has been said, it’s ony 1% of the game.
I’ll wait until these sections hit DLC for FREE. I don’t understand why Sega seems so determined to run this series into the ground outside of Japan.
Posted by Dom on February 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Comment # 298
Sorry Sega, you already made me buy this game in Japanese, I don’t think I can do it again in English if you can’t at least give me what I already have…
Posted by fei0x on February 24th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Comment # 299
Sega you have 2 weeks to fix that, Im not buy the game anymore, I’am not play a half game, this is discrimination!!! sega bankrupt in the west!!!
Posted by Riderblack on February 24th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Comment # 300
Although losing the Hostess Bar is pretty big I’m happy that Yakuza 3 made it here to the US. After not making any money on the previous two titles, I’m happy that it even made it here at all.
If Yakuza 4 makes it here I’m sure they won’t make the same mistake twice.
As for all the hate it’s not necessary I think SEGA already has taken a beating over the many years of failures. Let’s keep the company alive by supporting them now when they need us the most.
Otherwise you won’t get your shenmue, sonic, kiryu, bayonetta, vanquish, AVP, Valkyria Chronicles because SEGA won’t be around
Posted by JRL on February 24th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Comment # 301
Then the choice should have been no ‘Yakuza 3′ in the West. Are you really going to make a profit from this title over here? I don’t think so. I loved the first two games because they were unique in showing so much of Japan’s eye opening culture. It’s the fans, like myself, who would be willing to pay $60 for this title because of that fact. But now, what’s the point? Were you worried about controversy due to the hostess club mini-game? I don’t understand why, considering Y2 had the mini-game intact. The fact that you also changed the box art to a generic, close-up face shot was bad enough. (fans tend to notice these things) So what if it portrays the main character smoking a cigarette? That’s why this is an “M” rated title. ‘Yakuza 3′ was at the top of my list next month, ahead of the God of War and Final Fantasy titles. Sadly, Sega, it’s now dropped from the list. Give your hardcore fans some appreciation once in a while, instead of taking on the expected “greedy corporation” moniker.
Posted by Erick on February 24th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Comment # 302
They should of told us this information when they announced the game being localized for the West, and not waiting until there was only two weeks before the game comes out. You should just delay the game until you can add in the rest of the content, or at least make the rest of the content DLC.
Looks like I am going to cancel my preorder for now. If they announce that they are going to add the rest of the content later, i will pick it up.
Posted by Zeke233 on February 24th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Comment # 303
Pre-order canceled. Nice job SEGA! Saving $60.
Posted by Edge on February 24th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Comment # 304
I am torn now. I do not support censorship and butchered content. Yet, I want to support the series so maybe I can play Yakuza 4.
I can’t believe I am even considering not buying my most anticipated game of the year now.
Shame on you Sega.
Posted by Jeff on February 24th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Comment # 305
Had this pre-ordered, but have moved the pre-order to another game. I do not believe in purchasing sub-par or censored products. I will get it in the cheap bin one day, or craigslist
Posted by Brodie Bruce on February 24th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Comment # 306
You make it sound like you removed two things, when in fact the trophy situation and in game map situation is pointing more towards 5 things. So when are we going to get the whole story?
Have to get it out in time for March, ahaha, what a riot.
Posted by Fsho on February 24th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Comment # 307
WOW!!!
Not only does it lack english voice overs, it’s also cut!
Any more bad news on Yakuza? I’m not so sure if I even gonna purchase it anymore.
Posted by SkyFox on February 24th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Comment # 308
Then you shouldn’t have released in the first place if that’s the case. It would be one thing of the likeness of the hostess came into conflict but that’s not the issue. It’s a matter of getting the game out in a hurry. Let’s make the excellent choice of releasing an obscure fanbase game on the day Final Fantasy 13 comes out and week before God of War 3 comes out.
You removed aspects of a Japanese game, meant for Japanese enthusiasts, marketed toward people who had an interest in the culture. You might as well have just named the game “Japanese Mafia 3″ instead. No buy for me. Don’t support bull shit like this Sega. Don’t bother with Yakuza 4 being released in the west either now if we’re going to get other bull shit excuses.
Posted by Tiso on February 24th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Comment # 309
Sega,
Please announce DLC to unlock or put back the hostess club portion. This is an integral part of the Yakuza series and removal upsets the economy in the game. Many items will now be useless.
Even if the DLC comes later, announcing that DLC will be coming will appease fans. It will unify the divided fanbase and fans will come back to support you.
Posted by Jeff on February 24th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Comment # 310
What pathetic games company.
quote from the blog post:
“provide as close to the full experience as possible – no matter how foreign”
Then why has foreign content been cut?!
Yakuza is about Japanese gangsters, it is inherently foreign.
Tailoring your products to the lowest common denominator sure isn’t going to earn any respect or return customers.
Posted by Steelers 2010 on February 24th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Comment # 311
Do you guys try to fail?
Seriously, do you just sit around and look at all your good games and think, “Man, how can we totally screw ourselves with all these quality games!”
- Next to nothing advertising for good original games like Infinite Space and Valkyria Chronicles.
- Screwed up PS3 port of Bayonetta.
- Half-hearted localization of Resonance of Fate.
- Release date sabotage putting three quality though not terribly popular titles up against FFXIII and God of War (Resonance of Fate, Infinite Space, and Yakuza 3)
- And of course, cut content from Yakuza 3 after making western fans wait over a year.
I could easily go on. And people wonder how it is you managed to get crushed in the console wars and run the Sonic franchise into the ground so thoroughly that the former Nintendo-rivaling mascot is now Mario’s man-servant. It’s like you’re run by third-graders. Or worse: Insecure middle school kids. “Aww shucks, no one wants to buy our games anyway. Let’s do a half-assed localization, cut content, release them next to vastly more popular games, then go cry in our bedroom and listen to Linkin Park.”
And it wouldn’t annoy me if we were talking about crappy games. It’s because you make GOOD games that I’m flabbergasted. I’ve been your biggest cheerleader since the Genesis days, as a nerdy elementary school kid, an overweight English major, and now a journalist stuck in Tokyo with too much free time. Get a decent writer with a sense of humor, tweak the tutorials for context, and fricking leave the hostess club component in the game. Shit, I could translate it for you. Don’t even pay me: Just promise to run a commercial or two. You ought to have a GTA-kller in Ryu Ga Gotoku 3, but instead you’ll be lucky to crack 70k after this stunt.
A pox on you all. I fart in your general direction and say ‘bad form’ to all of you. Good day sirs.
Posted by James on February 24th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Comment # 312
One thing I want SEGA to confirm. Mahjong and Shogi. Are they in or out? I ask this because they have used words like “such as” which implies that there are more cuts than the ones mentioned.
At this point, this whole situation doesn’t look good.
Posted by Sonn on February 24th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Comment # 313
Perhaps, to save yourself from similar future troubles Sega, just put the option for the English subtitles/translation in while developing the game to begin with so that you can release it around the same time globally or at least so you can be ready for later when you do decide to release it to the Western audiences, which really shouldn’t be that long after if it’s already translated. It’ll save you the trouble of having to do it later.
I mean you’ll still be making most, if not all and more, of your money back. Any sales to Western audiences will just be extra profit and releasing it around the same time globally would probably helps sales even more due to titles release globally at the same time gets more attention from the gaming press.
Posted by TheRob on February 24th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Comment # 314
Another potential purchaser dropping off. No way am I buying a game with cut content. Delay this game, put back in the content, and we’ll talk.
Shame on you.
Posted by Trastan on February 24th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Comment # 315
I know that you probably won’t bring Yakuza 4 to the states if Yakuza 3 sells poorly, which is why I ordered 3 copies of Yakuza 3 – because I really want this excellent series to continue in the States.
However, you are guaranteeing failure with this title for the following reasons:
1. You took too long to put english subs on it.
2. You’re not advertising it very well.
3. You’re releasing it on the same day as Final Fantasy XIII, and just week(s) before games like God of War 3 and Resonance of Fate (another one of your games).
4. You’re cutting content from this version and not giving a good explanation of why.
As a fan of the first two games, I have to say that I am going to miss the hostess clubs a lot.
I’ve decided to cancel my pre-order(s) of this game… As much as I wish this franchise success outside of Japan, you are ruining the chances of that happening with your poor decisions.
Posted by Nathan on February 24th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Comment # 316
Editing media is a no deal!
I already had Yakuza 3 pre-ordered and paid in full at game stop and then I hear the hostess bar was cut even though the demo said to buy the full version to gain access.. what?!!!! isn’t that some kind of false advertising?
I thought that there were even a few trophies for the hostess bar, so those are cut as well?
Sega of America! edited media of any kind is unacceptable and taking such a staple out of the game is infuriating to me and with the added lack of release for kenzan and a butchered Yakuza 3 and to boot having a release date of all days the same as final fantasy XIII, is sega of america just trying to infuriate the cult community that “WAS GOING TO BUY Yakuza 3 stateside”
Go ahead and spit in my face why don’t you : (
Posted by John on February 24th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Comment # 317
No hostess bar, no buy, Yakuza 3 Premium Edition Pre Order cancelled. Try harder next time
Posted by Rod on February 24th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Comment # 318
I am no longer buying this game…unless SEGA decides to put the the content they’ve removed – either back onto the disk itself or via DLC.
As a longtime Genesis, 32X, Saturn, and Dreamcast SEGA FAN…I’m seriously disappointed in the lack of logical thinking from Sega of America.
This is the last straw.
Posted by Kajicat on February 24th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Comment # 319
Just easier not to buy it. I never played the first two but was ready to go with this one. Removing the hostesses from the game is removing a big part of the original marketing push behind the game in Japan, and hell it’s a critical part of the appeal there. What makes you think that the players in America are any Less fascinated by the Japanese modern culture than the actual Japanese residents? You should have known this decision would not be looked upon fondly by the niche gamers who might buy your niche game.
Posted by Brandon on February 24th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Comment # 320
You should have at least kept the Hostess Clubs. Maybe a patch would add this back into the game.
Posted by Mike on February 24th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Comment # 321
I would have purchased this game had there been no content cuts. I have trouble understanding the decision of the SEGA executive who decided it wasn’t worth the extra 200-400 hours it would take to completely translate the game. Even if I am drastically underestimating the time required, which I probably am, it would have been worth it. If this game was complete– if the game truly represented the Japanese vision that lead to its conception– then it would be a great release for America. Unfortunately SEGA, as usual, has failed to deliver. This is a message that I hope reaches the out of touch executives. You are making the wrong decisions. I won’t say that your job is easy, but you executives have lost touch with your customers.
Posted by ihappened on February 24th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Comment # 322
I think you have it backwards Sega. Your suppose to add content not take content away. Just canceled my pre-order. I would never buy an incomplete game.
Posted by Dean on February 24th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Comment # 323
I don’t see the point of removing the hostess clubs. The Japanese history trivia, sure, but the hostess clubs aren’t that difficult a concept to understand and their inclusion enhances the playing experience.
Posted by Myuki on February 24th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Comment # 324
Add me to the Pass list.
I have been looking forward to this game for a while now. Even pre-ordered it.
But now with the news of an edited version, I won’t be buying this game.
Sorry SEGA… another fail move. you guys just lost a fan.
Posted by jumpman23 on February 24th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Comment # 325
I was going to buy the game day 1, now I doubt I’ll ever get it, because even if I bought it cheap I don’t think I’ll enjoy it, because I’ll keep thinking about the missing parts.
Posted by Tomas on February 24th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Comment # 326
I had followed the tale of this game’s release with much interest. Unfortunately, I will not buy a censored version. I understand that your actions were taken in an attempt to increase the game’s market appeal, but I fear that in doing so you have chosen a market which excludes me.
I recall when this sort of thing used to be fairly commonplace. It was stupid then, and it’s stupid now.
Posted by minigendo on February 24th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Comment # 327
@SEGA
Cancelled pre-order…. and I had most of my friends interested in this game as well. I explain Japanese Concepts to them and have them try out the Demo (which they LOVED)
Thats 3 pre-orders that wll be cancelled…. Thanks SEGA tell you your product MANAGER and Marketing TEAM.. go back and learn how to properly advertise a great product.
Posted by Tristan_FIRE on February 24th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Comment # 328
yup srry wont be getting the game
Posted by Tristan_FIRE on February 24th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Comment # 329
Aaron why does this shit always happen with SEGA? If SoA marketed the game in the first place we wouldn’t need this cuts. WHY? then we hear excuses and then we get another excuse? PEOPLE won’t buy a game they don’t know about.
Now you pissed off the hardcore the only ones who were going to buy it? Aaron tell them to give us the FULL game.
So is there a price cut? I mean you cut the game right?
Posted by DeVeAn on February 24th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Comment # 330
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl11P__gN1Q
I decided to play the english Yakuza 3 demo one last time. I found this bit of dialogue to be very ironic.
Posted by king_ruckus on February 25th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Comment # 331
Canceled my preorder. Picking this game up when it hits the bargain bin.
Posted by Derek on February 25th, 2010 at 12:33 am
Comment # 332
Sega…have you guys gone completely insane?
Unless there’s something really, really objectionable to portions of the game, there’s no reason to cut content. Doing so in the current context reeks only of laziness and the desire not to even bother introducing elements of Japanese culture to gamers in the U.S. and elsewhere.
Isn’t that what Yakuza is all about? A small exposure to how some things are in Japan (aside from playing a game in the role of a gangster badass)?
For !@#$% sake, please allow consumers to download the cut content at least as DLC. Perhaps the content was cut for financial reasons, but surely if the public is willing to pay extra for these extra tidbits, then it’s possibly retainable?
I was excited about this game. This news…is just like rain on a parade.
Posted by Jason on February 25th, 2010 at 12:42 am
Comment # 333
Not buying this. Good luck.
Posted by BG on February 25th, 2010 at 12:52 am
Comment # 334
Sega,
thank you for helping me save $60. Your brilliant decision to cut an integral part of the Yakuza experience made me cancel my preorder. As it stands now, I’ll be playing the first 2 Yakuza games- games that are complete and faithfully translated over this half-baked attempt to localize Yakuza 3. Until you delay the release to translate the missing parts, I will not spend a single cent on it. And when your executives cry about how western fans are not buying Yakuza 3, it surely isn’t due to a lack of interest. You can be sure the internet as a collective entity will be here to set the record straight – it is because you folks continue to screw up proper localization processes.
Have a nice day.
Posted by Jack on February 25th, 2010 at 12:52 am
Comment # 335
I was going to post something a bit more though-provoking, then I realized the audience I was directing it towards. So here’s the revised version:
Sega, you’re a bunch of fucking morons.
You’ve managed to alienate the only population of consumers who were going to buy this game after the monumentally boneheaded decision to release a niche title on the same day as Final Fantasy 13.
What the fuck are you thinking? Is this some scheme like in the Producers…where you need a guaranteed flop to generate boatloads of cash?
Well, congratulations in that case. Because you may have just orchestrated the worst sales of any title released in 2010.
Posted by TowelFight on February 25th, 2010 at 12:54 am
Comment # 336
Sorry Sega I’ve canceled my preorder, my Yakuza 3 is too precious for it to be cut and crippled. Your excuse and reasons are not valid, the DLC don’t make up for the loss. I’ve been strong supporter of Yakuza and Sega as company for many years. But this time you made it personal and dishonored your loyal fans — your buyers
I’m gonna buy the Japanese UNCUT Yakuza 3 and its gonna be hard playing it when, because I cant read Japanese texts or understand dialogue but that rather that than having a CUT/tainted version of Yakuza 3.
Posted by Fredrik from Sweden on February 25th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Comment # 337
Sorry but I really had to cancle my pre-order. Won’t buy this game with all those things cut. I could have lived with an explanaiton like ‘small fanbase vs. high localization costs’. I’d probably bought the game anyway if that would have been the case.
But SEGA can’t tell me that they ‘just cut a little’ or that this were things I don’t care much about as a player. This is for me to decide!
Also, i find it pretty sneaky they only admited to it because of pressure of fans and media and only two weeks away from official release. They clearly didn’t want to tell us!
Out of these two reasons (cut content which was very valuable to me & the way SEGA treats it’s customers) I won’t buy this game.
Although i would buy the whole package if they couldn’t afford a 100% localization out of financial reasons and would sell the cut content as DLC.
Posted by Raffael on February 25th, 2010 at 1:11 am
Comment # 338
Commenting on the Sega Rep e-mail to Kotaku “Regarding Yakuza 3, we had a tight schedule to abide by for localizing and releasing Yakuza 3 in the west. Due to the limited time we were given we had to leave certain bits of the game out … We understand that this is not the optimum thing to do, but given the options of releasing the next chapter of a beloved game so that our fans can experience the story of Yakuza vs. not releasing it at all, we felt it was worth it to release it with 99% of the content intact.”
What’s the rush? If this was due to legal restrictions, licensing issues, lack of cash, pretty much anything but the above, this would make more sense. Why does it have to be either releasing 99% or not at all, it’s already been a year so it wouldn’t hurt to wait a few weeks/months more. All this will go away if you promise this will be fixed via DLC, do it SEGA, make us proud. You can still redeem yourself.
Posted by Tequilazen on February 25th, 2010 at 1:20 am
Comment # 339
This neckbreaking stunt of yours costs you a lot of money. Is this how to do business?
Sega loses money and customers even before release. You’re no competition. It’s pathethic.
Posted by Nova on February 25th, 2010 at 1:40 am
Comment # 340
I don’t believe for one second that 99% of the content is intact. It’s more like 92% of the content is intact and 8% (possible more) of the game has been taken out . If it was only 1% of content missing. Then I don’t see why you couldn’t put that 1% in. If it was 1% it wouldn’t take more then a day to put in.
Posted by James Earl Cash on February 25th, 2010 at 1:43 am
Comment # 341
While I understand the difficulties of localization and taking a chance on a title that has not sold well in North America, as a consumer I am finding it hard to fork out full price for a game with missing content. I will have to wait on this one, Sega. Thanks for your hard work and I hope to be buying your games again soon.
Posted by Anon on February 25th, 2010 at 1:49 am
Comment # 342
I’m really sad about this. The hostess bars were one of the things i was most looking forward to in this game. It really seems like you don’t understand your fanbase. With all the word of mouth support Yakuza 3 has been getting I’m sure sales of a complete game would have been huge.
Maybe you guys don’t realize it but Hostess Bars are a BIG deal.
Posted by Taylor on February 25th, 2010 at 1:50 am
Comment # 343
It’s upsetting, really. Just man up and let us know whether Sega has any intentions of adding the Hostess stuff through DLC. No one is upset about the history quiz. Let me repeat, no one really cared too much about the Japanese history quiz. The quiz is a minor thing, and it hasn’t been in any of the Yakuza games released in the states thus far.
The Hostess segments were in both Yakuza 1&2, completely translated in the US, and now you’re taking them away. You can’t just say “our bad” at the last possible moment, having lied to us previously about not taking out content, and expect the fans who have stuck with you to take this lying down. If you’re going to step on our toes, just come right out and say it. Just realize that refusing to fix this ultimately minor issue is a downright stupid decision. Why alienate the fanbase that has been waiting forever for this game? Do you want our money or not?
Posted by Concerned Fan on February 25th, 2010 at 2:05 am
Comment # 344
I’m not going to cut my nose off to spite my face. I’d still like to play it but I just don’t want to support Sega’s decision to do a piss poor censored port by giving them my money. So I’ll be buying it used. The only way I’ll buy a new copy is if the cut content comes out as free DLC.
I’d encourage people to do the same.
Posted by None of your business on February 25th, 2010 at 2:29 am
Comment # 345
My pre-order has just been cancelled. Way to ruin any chance of this great series having success outside of Japan.
Posted by Nathan on February 25th, 2010 at 2:38 am
Comment # 346
killing off the yakuza franchise outside japan is what sega wants to do anyway, so dont buy ANY sega game ever again to show them
as a gamer, by buying you decide what publishers may and may not do, so it is your responsibility to simply not buy any sega game from now on ever again
Posted by karacho on February 25th, 2010 at 2:54 am
Comment # 347
You failed again SEGA. BRAVO!!!!!!
Posted by samanas on February 25th, 2010 at 2:54 am
Comment # 348
This is really unacceptable, the hostess club play a huge part in the game and by taking it out, it is really spoiling the fun of the game.
Sega, if the game dun sell good this time round just like yakuza 2 dun blame anybody but yourself.
There are a lot of Yakuza fun out there who wan this game. And you are making a lot of fan angry becos of this decision.
“YOU HAVE ALSO CRIPPLED CURRENCY IN THE GAME BECAUSE ITEMS YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BUY HOSTESS WOMEN ARE USELESS” This statement is true and damn it is true. You go think about it.
LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF ANGRY FANS AND I AM ONE OF THEM.
Posted by Jason on February 25th, 2010 at 2:59 am
Comment # 349
SEGA this are all excuses. The more you trying to explain the more people you’ll piss.
You believe piss off people will up the sale ? Nice move very nice move!!
Posted by aless on February 25th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Comment # 350
My money does not resonate with Sega.
Pre-order cancelled.
Posted by Mr Delicious on February 25th, 2010 at 3:07 am
Comment # 351
Just lame sega, just lame.
I want either
a) you postpone the release to add the content
b) you gurantee the missing content as a patch/dlc
You have 11 days till I cancel my preorder.
Posted by dfgdf on February 25th, 2010 at 3:29 am
Comment # 352
All companies make mistakes. Your quick response and how you handle this issue will affect Sega’s company image. This issue spreads far beyond just this game.
Announce DLC to be released for the hostess portion of Yakuza 3 and fix this issue.
Posted by Jeff on February 25th, 2010 at 3:34 am
Comment # 353
You are really forcing us to chose between supporting something that is -wrong- and boosting the potential of Y4 getting localized. I’m not buying it, I’ll learn japanese before I support this kind of BS.
Posted by gutsack on February 25th, 2010 at 3:35 am
Comment # 354
SEGA: Sorry guys, we can’t bring Yakuza 3 to America.
US fans: Please SEGA, please, we really want this stuff!
SEGA: oookay, but we need to cut some things
US fans: WTF I HATE YOU FOREVER, NO SALE
Seriously guys? Come on. It’s not like the whole game was cut
Posted by anonymous on February 25th, 2010 at 3:37 am
Comment # 355
Regardless of the reasoning, Sega needs to make clear what has been removed, and if anything, what will be able to be unlocked at a later time. You must dispel the uncertainty about what has been removed “quiz and hostess club” we know, but it feels like more than that is gone.
Posted by xdy on February 25th, 2010 at 3:40 am
Comment # 356
im dissapointed with the lack of the hostest club, i’ll pick this up when this is added to dlc.. if its never added i’ll probably skip this game and wait for yakuza 4, and this time really hope sega doesnt cut out anything
Posted by clc88 on February 25th, 2010 at 3:47 am
Comment # 357
Good job, Sega! Cancelled my preorder. Better buy used japanese copy. I known japanese much worse than english, but still I will NEVER pay for even 99% of full game.
Posted by Voronezh on February 25th, 2010 at 4:03 am
Comment # 358
SEGA
I am so disappointed about this………
I love the cabaret club in Yakuza 1 & 2.
But after waiting, and waiting, and waiting of the English version for almost a year…
This is what I get???
* F A C E P A L M *
My anticipation of Yakuza 3 is -90%.
I’ll buy Yakuza 3 when it’s cheap enough… Not day 1 anymore… T___T
Posted by Cloudberry on February 25th, 2010 at 4:20 am
Comment # 359
What a shame!!
Sega you don´t spoil your fans like Atlus do
In fact, You are just the oposite of Atlus..you get angry your fans
WE WANT THE COMPLETE VERSION OF YAKUZA 3!!!!
Make us a favour:
Change the Box Art into the Japanese Version
And if it is a problem of time…just release yakuza 3 in summer..do not worry..we would rather to wait and play it complete instead of playing a censured version
SEGA listen to your fans if you want to have success in your future projects and sales
So….TRANSLATE THE COMPLETE VERSION OF YAKUZA 3 PLEASEEEEEE!!!!!!
Posted by RyugaGotoku3COMPLETE on February 25th, 2010 at 4:57 am
Comment # 360
Sega i love you guys but this is gotta be the most weak marketing strategy EVER for an already very old game i have ever seen…what about yakuza do you people dislike for totally sabotaging this series outside Japan like you so obviously do?
Posted by olivier on February 25th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Comment # 361
Comment # 12
“First things first, you refers not to the poster, but to the corporation or whoever did the decision.
Now, back then you announced it, made people feel happy and now close to it’s release you’re getting out with the information? How difficult is it to tell the people and fans that you’re not delivering the full package when you’re announcing the release? Are you hoping that people are not going to inform themselves and find it out later that the content is not in? Would you have told us beforehand, if people didn’t ask?
Then you’re selling the game at full price with some useless goodies like an extra CD, but you can’t bring the full gameplay package?
This is some questionable business practice here.
“Even so, Yakuza 3 is still a game packed to the brim with things to do, places to see, and people to fight – offering a massive amount of options for fans of the series and new players alike. In addition, the western versions of the game will come pre-packaged with codes for the DLC, already localized and ready to be enjoyed.”
When you order a hamburger at a restaurant and after some time he comes back and says”btw. you’ll only get the meat, but rest assured that we’ll continue fighting on your behalf to make sure that your critic is going forward, so we can provide…”. Do you think it’s okay?
Give me a break, “packed to the brim”, “little less trivia”? When a glass is half filled do you say it’s filled to the brim? Is 2+2 now 5? It’s a fact that you cut content worth hours of gameplay and story. There are 6(!) contents missing, at least 2 are tradition and again two of them are huge. The package that has been filled to the brim has been cut down and is now NOT FILLED TO THE BRIM anymore, because YOU decided to do so.
Seriously, the hostess clubs are and always have been an essential part of the Yakuza series. When the name Yakuza is on the package it has hostess clubs. That’s how it’s been and should be. Especially when the hostess club is the most improved part of this iteration(aside from graphics), not even the fighting has been improved that much.
It’s also obvious that it’s a significant cut, since some boutiques and items are specifically for that part of the game and this is one of the places where most of Kiryus money goes. Plus there are 10 hostess, each of them having little stories and big extra XP for each finished story as well as some extra items that goes with those little stories.
The much improved hostess club management is also a significant content. Where one can get some huge cash in and even have fun while only spending little time into it, since it’s something you do from time to time.
Even in one of your own Japanese 4 minute trailer you’ve shown them off as mini-game main events.
Also if it’s not apparent enough, slashing away 5 trophies says more than enough.
So what are we? Some kind of Second Class citizens? Do you think we’re not smart enough for things like Mahjong or Shogi, thus it isn’t worth it? Do you think we’re not interested in one of the main features of the series? Who gave you our consensus to think for us and determine what suits us and what not?
I as consumer cannot and will not endorse such practices. If people let you go through with it this, where will this stop? The next time you can cut even more, because you think people are going to tolerate it and buy something that is not complete, with the same excuse:”sorry guys, either you buy a this portion of the game at full price or nothing. But our team does everything to forward these critics, so we can provide as close to the full experience…”.
I love the Yakuza series, that’s why I will not sit down and do nothing while it’s getting butchered by decisions like these.
I will make sure that the message spreads and that people avoid this insulting localization/treatment, rip-off sham package, and I hope others will follow suit, because this is NOT ACCEPTABLE in any way. Neither for the fans and consumers nor the Yakuza series.”
*Posted by D on February 24th, 2010 at 9:27 pm*
Taken from the blog in EU.
http://blogs.sega.com/europe/2010/02/24/whats-up-with-yakuza-3/
This fan/consumer/gamer and other people around the world has told you SEGA, CLEARLY, we the REAL Yakuza fans will not tolerate this madness and crazy butchering of a awesome series.
Again, you guys rip of 10 – 15 hours (optionally) gameplay, minigames, sidestories, events and fun with Kazuma Kiryu and his society.
Whats next? Rip off all japanese things in your future games?! Come on SEGA, give me a break.
Btw, you lost another buyers, because my bro and so on will not buy this game anymore. Unless you bring the FULL original game to us.
And yes, we will spread the word of your incorrect decision for Yakuza 3.
So do yourself and your fans a big favour and bring the full game to the western audiences.
To all gamers and the fans of the Yakuza series, show SEGA they can’t to this kind of despicable things. Spread the word of truth in all direction like other blogs, forums, amazon, gaming mags, your social networks and so on.
Nobody gets fooled by them and save Kazuma Kiryu and Kamurocho in the western region!
Posted by Dragoon on February 25th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Comment # 362
Sega, come on. Put yourself in our shoes and ask whether or not you think we are asking too much. All we’ve heard about is time issues being the problem. If that’s the case, then release it as DLC. Not only do you relight a quickly diminishing flame with the fanbase, but you probably save face as a company. If it’s a money reason, call up Nagoshi and tell him what’s going on. I’m sure that he would prefer to see his game released here in the States as a COMPLETE game. I think you guys also might forget how much time is spent in these cut areas. For some people, the hostess clubs might have been one of the main reasons that people even got into the game. I don’t think this would be nearly as huge of a deal if they hadn’t been in the first two games in the first place. I have not yet cancelled my pre-order yet, but I am seriously considering doing so based on what comes of this.
Posted by DualEdge on February 25th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Comment # 363
Still don’t understand why Sega would remove hostess bar segments of the game. Was it due to some sort of regional rating restriction? I will still be purchasing the game, but the extra content of the hostess bars will be missed from the previous games. I am excited to be playing 3 in Japanese rather than dubbed English.
SEGA! WORK ON A SHENMUE NEXT GEN TITLE!
Posted by Joey Pellicone on February 25th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Comment # 364
I will not be buying this game new without full content. If you want support from serious fans of this series, delay the game and put the removed content in. I’ve been rushing through Yakuza 1 & 2 over past month or so with the plan to really take my time on 3. Luckily I haven’t finished 2 yet, so I can really take my time on what’s left of that instead since 3′s content won’t be worth it. I mean, really, it doesn’t make any sense to do this when 1 & 2 both had full content. This is just laziness on your part, SEGA, and it’s disappointing that you guys think Western gamers would stand for this kind of butchery.
Posted by cfb on February 25th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Comment # 365
I’ve grown up alongside the gaming industry and have watched it evolve from blocks and beeps to realistic and immersive. I’ve witnessed the censorship debate from the get-go, finding most of it to be silly. It’s time for the industry to actually grow up and grow a pair, rather than playing it safe with watered-down sequels and in-game advertising to keep their bottom line high.
It’s not just the censorship issue that makes this ridiculous. For decades, gamers have missed out on games, portions of their content, or else have suffered through terrible localizations because publishers feel that gamers can’t handle the cultural differences. What they fail to see is how it fosters interest in other cultures. A lot of gamers have taken the time to learn about Japan specifically because of Japanese games. They learn about the culture, the language, and travel there. For some, it’s also a gateway to international studies in general, Japan acting as their first stop in a lifetime of learning about the world. So what if people in America don’t know Japanese trivia? Leave it in the game. Those who don’t know can hit Wikipedia to find answers, possibly getting lost in a sea of information and gaining an interest that not only helps them to better understand Japan, but might actually improve the gaming experience for them. These butchered localizations and bits of censorship are an insult to both the gamer and the developer.
No more cut content. No more censorship. No replacing one country’s pop-culture references with another’s (Shannon Doherty jokes, anyone?).
Mature gamers, speak with your keyboard AND your wallet.
Posted by Shane Stramski on February 25th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Comment # 366
Guess nearly everyone said what i want to say: SEGA I CANCELED MY PRE-ORDER FOR THIS GAME.
I am not paying money for a game that is not even the full thing. Plus one of my reason that I’m getting this is the Japanese culture/themes surrounding it so your fucking not suitable for western audience is a load of bullshit to me.
I won’t buy any more games made by your retarded company anymore that makes fucking fabulous decisions/excuses like this.
Posted by Anon on February 25th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Comment # 367
Thanks Sega West. Will take it used.
Posted by Sharkone on February 25th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Comment # 368
I’m a french fan of the IP, and i’m very disappointed to learn that the hostess bar won’t be in the game. It’s a great feature of this game.
I’m just sad and angry.
Posted by Aalok on February 25th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Comment # 369
Wow, this was on top of my to buy list. Now I’m just waiting for this to hit $19.99 at Wal-Mart.
Nice one Sega, you f@#k up!
Posted by Leah C on February 25th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Comment # 370
you just killed a good game. why take the club out? no reason for that.
oh i know just because it was to expansive to translate.
Posted by Kick ass on February 25th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Comment # 371
JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF ANGRY FANS AND I AM ONE OF THEM.
Posted by Jason on February 25th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Comment # 372
This is fairly disappointing. Not so much that the content WAS cut, so much as WHY it was cut.
The understanding I have is that SEGA cut the content in order to localize the game in time to release it on 9 March 2010. This business about it being “too foreign” is clearly just a poorly-thought out excuse that is likely to do more harm than good. I’m more concerned with why SEGA thought it was a ~good~ idea to push this game out on the same day as FFXIII and GoW3. It seems like a very, very poor decision to me.
I will still support the franchise in the West by purchasing a copy on day 1, but mostly because I’m anxious to see Yakuza 4. In all honesty, it’s not like the Yakuza series requires too much localization. No need to waste money on a dub, all ya’ needed to do was translate all of the subtitles. Is that really so much effort that you have to cut? Yeesh.
Posted by Xof on February 25th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Comment # 373
Also, thanks for saving me some money. Now I can buy FFXIII and God of War 3, without straining too much of my wallet.
Posted by Leah C on February 25th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Comment # 374
NOOO! One of the best part has been deleted. I will not buy it at full price.
Posted by Yareku on February 25th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Comment # 375
I’m baffled over here.
I wanted this game because of all the quirky Japan-y stuff you could do on the side.
Can’t really justify the full price purchase now, I’ll grab it from the bargain bin…if I can find it.
Posted by Chad on February 25th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Comment # 376
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia”
That’s not really telling us anything you know. Was it time restraints placed by Sega of Japan, $$$ issues, or what I read about us “not understing it in the West”? Either way it’s a real shame, and it’s very very sad to see something like this happen. Content cut for any reason this day and age is just about unacceptable.
I plan on still picking up Yakuza 3, but I’m really at a loss if I’ll want to pick up future titles from your company or not. Full price for a game I feel like that I should’ve just imported now. Who’s to say future titles won’t feature cut content revealed to fans just weeks before release.
I doubt there’s anything that could really replace the faith I had in Sega that was shook due to this. Perhaps if you added the cut content as DLC or something later, but I highly doubt that’ll happen. A partial English voiceover for Resonace of Fate seems like such a minor complaint now, but this is just crazy. Either way I have to say I’m disappointed.
Posted by Dust on February 25th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Comment # 377
Sega:
-Releasing the game in a month of AAA titles (sup, Pokemon/Bad Company 2?) flooding
-Not dubbing the game for Americans that will NOT buy a subbed game (I’m not one, but this is common among the US kids)
-Cutting content because “Americans won’t get it!”
Will then:
-Cry and blame gamers for their own mistakes in Yakuza 3 flopping.
How does it feel to be sending the game out to die? Maybe if it was coming out in August like I stated elsewhere, I’d consider buying it. But: No.
And the cut content: Yeah, no. The Japanese version has an Engrish-y script, if I want Yakuza 3 I’ll import it and not give a dime to Sega US that can’t be assed to give fans that whined hard for this to come to the US what they want.
Posted by Name (required) on February 25th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Comment # 378
I preordered it, but now I may be shifting that credit elsewhere.
Posted by Tajomaru on February 25th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Comment # 379
on one hand i really want to play this game. on the other hand, i don’t want to pay for a watered down version of it.
re-posted from previous blog entry: altering the game content for western audiences kind of misses the point as to why the yakuza series was/is so great. the beauty of yakuza is that it allowed us to glimpse into a culture/world we wouldn’t otherwise have access to. hostess bars are part of that world. you are seriously underestimating your audience by cutting them from the north american release. if you read the comments on the ign, kotaku posts or even these contents, you’ll see that the majority of the fans who supported this series here in the west are at an uproar. there are a lot of people who have decided to drop their pre-orders because of this. please reconsider this. it’s a really bad move on your part to water the game down. the reason why it took so long, you say, for it to come to the west is due to poor sales of the first two installments. just imagine what this will do to the series at a whole; when all of the hardcore fans of the series start to walk away.
i have it pre-ordered at eb games here in canada, but i’m leaning towards canceling it like SO MANY of its fans.
also, it’s been mentioned before but removing it would also seriously upset the economy of the game. a bunch of those items you would spend your money on would be rendered moot. there is still time to put it back in. even if you have to delay its release.
Posted by Justin Woo on February 25th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Comment # 380
Horrible! any censorship is ruining the beauty of the original content, and most westerners need to start learning some of the eastern style as well.. i dont see why this is such a bad issue..
Posted by pookeye on February 25th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Comment # 381
I’m going to buy Yakuza 2 just to enjoy the heck out of the hostess part of the game.
Of course, I will be buying it used so you won’t be getting a single cent.
Cheers Sega.
Posted by Jake§ on February 25th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Comment # 382
As I wrote earlier, it would be much appreciated if you could release this content later as DLC… Then you will avoid whatever accusations from the media you might be afraid of, and still deliver the full experience to the hardcore fans of the Yakuza series.
Posted by mikaelberg on February 25th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Comment # 383
Good business decision. Lost customer here.
Posted by Paul on February 25th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Comment # 384
To those that say they “canceled pre-orders” or won’t be buying the game because of the sole omission of the cut features: I urge you to still buy the game.
I’m sure there are lots of folks at Sega that love this franchise more than many of you and they too would LOVE to see all features make it over for every game they work on and translate. By supporting the game, you can help Sega not make this cut for Yakuza 4.
This was probably a budget issue. I’m sure there is a massive volume of text involved in a project like this, and it could be possible that 25% of it or more is all dedicated to features like the host/hostess clubs. By cutting those features it may have made bringing Yakuza to us in English a possibility.
Now what I’d like to offer as a mere suggestion to Sega is to consider supporting all languages with a single release. This is done with many titles today, all over the world. Most US titles support English, French, Italian, and German in a single SKU. Still, Western and European languages are probably easier to translate and easier to apply different text since each language reads from the left to the right, so I can understand how a non-Japanese release would take a little more time.
I want to thank Sega for bringing us this game in English while encourage you as a company to consider a full-featured release for the next time. I really hope Yakuza 3 sells well. I’m looking forward to it.
Posted by Killrig on February 25th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Comment # 385
Sega
We, the fans want to make this franchise a success in the west. We were ready to open our wallets for this game after the enormous demand for the game to be released outside of Japan.
It took you 1 year for you to listen.
- We waited
You decided to release the game in the worst month of the year when games like Final Fantasy XIII, Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and GoW 3 comes.
- We decied to save Yakuza a spot
You more or less admit that the localization is a hack job.
- Where does that leave us?
You decide to give us a lobotomized version of the game as well, announcing the cuts just 2 weeks before it comes out. Not only that, there are rumours floating that you’ve cut more than you’re willing to admit.
If you instead focused on making the game 100%, and released the game on a dry month (May for example), you’d gain.
Anyway, I’m sad that this game will flop (because believe me, when you alienate the core demographics with such a niche title, it will fail hard), because that means that there won’t be seeing Yakuza 4 in the west anytime soon. Sega, you seriously dropped the ball on this though. You should engourage your customers by providing the content they desire if you want this game to sell, not disencourage everyone by hacking the game to pieces.
I’m sorry, this game has gone from 1st day buy to cancellation of my pre-order.
Posted by Jensen on February 25th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Comment # 386
Do you know what district is the Kamurocho setting base on? The District of Kabikicho. What’s so well-known about Kabukicho rather then the Theatre Square? The Red-light Night life! What is the essetial of red-light life? At least have lovely drink with ladies even to some people the dress is horrible
By removing the hostess side-mission like you already the core of Red-light night life. A Yakuza without night-life, even he is the former? Ha that’s so hilarious. Is that keeping the leadingman’s reputaion as Hero. That’s BOO~~~~ Really really BOO~~~~~~
Posted by Ancaryvan on February 25th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Comment # 387
@Killrig:
it can,t be more text than star ocean last hope for ps3 and this RPG was translated in 8 different languages…
iam not buying until i know every content is in yakuza 3 that was in the japanese…
Posted by Roger on February 25th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Comment # 388
I’m disappointed at the cuts. But I will still purchase the game to support the series and hope that Yakuza 4 is released over here with a FULL translation.
But after everything that has gone on, Yakuza 3 is no longer a day one purchase for me. I will patiently wait until the price drops to pick this one up. Now if SEGA announces that they will add hostess clubs, mahjong, shogi, and massage parlors back in as free DLC, then I will gladly purchase this game full price!
Please SEGA, don’t let down your fans. Put the content back in as free DLC
Posted by BentMyWookiee on February 25th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Comment # 389
A update from my site in regard to the known cut content:
- Quiz Minigame
- Club (Datingsim) –> included in part I and II
- The Hostess Club (Kiryu as Manager) –> included in II
- Shogi (jap. chess) –> included in II
- Mahjong –> included in II
- Massage Minigame –> included in I and II
Now there are coming and telling us, sorry it’s too japanese?!
Think about it folks, this 6 content are known there are cut. But there is still a possibility SEGA has cut off more things. Until today they didn’t release a official list with all removed content from the original.
Dear SEGA company, please fix this disaster. There is still time to save your image and get your core fans back.
We want the FULL version of the awesome game Yakuza 3. Not a rip off and a “half full” thing. Because this is beyond ridiculous and not tolerable.
Posted by Dragoon on February 25th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Comment # 390
Hey Sega, how about changing that “Beat the game on Extra Hard mode” trophy to “Beat the game on Normal mode”. That would RESONATE with the crowd that likes easy trophies (lol). Just throwing that out there so give it some thought. After all, you probably want this game to appeal to somebody, right?
Posted by megamixer on February 25th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Comment # 391
Bad move SEGA. Pre-order CANCELED!
Posted by MaikuBano on February 25th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Comment # 392
Oh, SEGA… Most of your sales of Yakuza 3 in the U.S. and Europe will come from fans of the franchise, not new customers, and this is how it goes?
I think you made these cuts not for a matter of time constraints, but to better appeal to new customers, those not familiar with the series.
Posted by Dave on February 25th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Comment # 393
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Posted by Alkaidapx on February 25th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Comment # 394
Just please release the missing content a bit later as DLC for a small fee like $5 and i think everybody would be happy.
Posted by Daniel on February 25th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Comment # 395
Does anyone at Sega America know the meaning of Yubitsume?
Posted by p1nguin on February 25th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Comment # 396
Yakuza 3: Coming Soon To A Bargain Bin Near You!
Seriously Sega:
• You’ve kicked your fanbase squarely in the nuts with the cut content.
• Said fanbase are the only people who buy Yakuza titles.
• You’ve decided to launch a niche title on the same day as Final Fantasy 13.
• This same release window also sees the launch of Heavy Rain, God of War 3, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, etc.
Why not just announce a launch price of $29.99 and save us all the trouble of waiting five weeks for your idiotic decisions to catch up with you?
Posted by TowelFight on February 25th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Comment # 397
Thanks for the heavily edited and now somewhat pointless release of Yakuza 3. The timing of the announcement and the speed of the localization always had me suspicious that Yakuza 3 was little more than an apology for the overall cruddiness of Bayonetta’s PlayStation 3 port. These newly announced cuts all but confirm that theory.
Quick tip Sega: THIS SERIES WILL NEVER RESONATE WITH MAINSTREAM AUDIENCES. At least not by making cuts that your average consumer would never be aware of in the first place. Maybe if you tried…oh, I don’t know…actually advertising the game. You know, that thing you never did with Yakuza 2…and instead chose to blame the fans for not stepping up (when the game was released so quietly that many weren’t even aware it had happened). Oh, and pricing the game at a more realistic $40 might help bring a few more people into the fold as well.
But no, instead you choose the lazy, disastrous route of removing much of the game’s quirky appeal and cultural relevancy. And in doing so you’ve only succeeded in alienating the people who were intending to purchase this game in the first place. And for what? Casual gamers whose purchasing dollars you still won’t get? An angry hardcore fan base that would’ve been more than willing to play Bayonetta for another month or two while you translate everything in Yakuza 3?
As someone that’s lived in Japan, I can say the biggest appeal Yakuza has always had for me is the “mini vacation” it offers with its uncanny accuracy regarding certain elements of the culture. For anyone else, the game still offers a wonderful glimpse into portions of Japanese culture that one might have difficulty discovering otherwise. Get out of this early nineties mentality that an American audience’s brain will melt the moment they’re confronted with something “too foreign”. It was insulting then, and in this age of Katamaris, Phoenix Wrights, and two previously released, uncut Yakuza titles it’s just ridiculous, needless, and infuriating.
But expecting well thought out decisions from Sega is clearly to much anymore. For over a decade all you’ve proven able to do time and again is make dumb choices and awful Sonic games. Perhaps once the hate mail piles up you’ll finally pull your head out of your *** and offer the omissions as DLC. Until then you owe us a complete game.
P.S.: Oh, and genius move with your Resonance of Fate release date. Let us know how launching a week after Final Fantasy 13 works out for you.
Morons.
Posted by TowelFight on February 25th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Comment # 398
Sega, I just wanted to say please bring the removed content to the U.S. It is because of the Japanese culture that I fell in love with this game. I would love to see every aspect of the Japanese culture intended for this game to come with the U.S. release.
Even if it comes as DLC, I would be purchasing it through the PSN network.
Thank you
Posted by Eric on February 25th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Comment # 399
No Hostess Club No BUY it’s as simple as that
Posted by jayakuma on February 25th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Comment # 400
I’m really disappointed with this news Sega, I’ve been waiting for a localization ever since the game came out in Japan and when all hope seems lost you guys announced that you would localize the game with subs with no content cuts, but now ? What a slap to the loyal fans of this series I probably won’t get this game on day one now.
Posted by Glenn on February 25th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Comment # 401
Each moment you make us wait without verifying ALL cut content and explaining how you’ll rectify the situation is a potential sale lost. Turn your company around and treat your consumers with more respect, please.
Posted by king_ruckus on February 25th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Comment # 402
Sorry, Killrig this isn’t how this rolls.
SEGA announced it beginning December buildung up hype and now 2 weeks before release they are telling you that you’re not worth the localization of the specific content. While hailing the great DLC to high heaven, when those are patched in now day one in the JPN version. Aren’t the official statements apparent enough for you? They aren’t even telling you the whole story, right now we don’t even know if there’s something else was cut.
Also they didn’t even made the effort to post this announcement on the Official Playstation Blogs. Which obviously shows they want it to sweep this whole issue under the table.
You’re being treated like an uninformed third class citizen, hoping that you don’t notice all this happening. Sorry, but I can’t reward such shady policies. This isn’t how the Yakuza franchise or consumers should be treated. What’s happening here is they dared to insult the great franchise, the intelligence of the fans and consumers.
The reasoning alone that one should support this piece of sham package so that Yakuza 4 gets released is more than flawed. It’s the peoples hard earned money where one invested blood, time and sweat and you urge them to pay full price for a GUTTED GAME plus some good for nothing goodies while getting this kind of treatment, do you think it is really okay? Do you like to be treated like a naive child who puts up with everything and hopes for everything to get better?
If we buckle down here they’ll see it’s a viable practice to RIP you OFF, because you seem to like to be “blackmailed” into buying, since you want the next iteration to get localized. Then the next one gets the same treatment and in the end you’ll be in a vicious circle.
The message that this game is cut needs to get spread every place/outlet where this game gets promoted, people have to be warned that they aren’t getting the treatment they should be and are going to pay for something incomplete. This whole issue is disgusting and how they are handling it is below the belt and despicable.
SEGA, we are more than happy to support you guys if you treat us with passion, but NOT LIKE THIS.
It can go both ways and we have to show them that they can’t get away with pulling a fast one on us, the consumers and fans.
There’s no next time. What you can fix now should be fixed SEGA and not in just in the next iteration.
Let’s get this straight. This isn’t only about Yakuza but about every future game out there. If we let them do THIS now, it’ll show how lenient people are and SEGA and others are going to push it further and further. We have to stop them right here, right now and send them a clear message.
Posted by Daruma on February 25th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Comment # 403
Well Sega, I’m disappointed. I do not understand your decision of cutting content. Yet, I’ll still buy this game. I really want Yakuza 4 to be released in the west, that’s why.
But be warned: With your latest (bad) move, you’re angering a lot of fans, fans that are your ‘core audience for this kind of games. Fix the situation, SEGA, you can do it.
Posted by LaLko on February 25th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Comment # 404
I don’t understand the logic behind this at all.
Why not just delay the game or release DLC? Its already an incredibly difficult release month as it is.
And to those that are happy about the DLC codes being included as pre-orders, thats nothing special. Thats all content that was released for FREE in Japan, only staggered over time.
Please fix this, SEGA, or at least promise to fix this and I’ll still be a day 1 buyer!
Posted by TheRealDragon on February 25th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Comment # 405
Way to go Sega. You guys really know how to fuck up a good thing. TONS of people, including myself play Yakuza games for the Japanese experience of it all, if we wanted something that “resonated” with the American gamers more then I’d go buy GTA4.
Don’t screw over the dedicated fans of the series by butchering parts of the game and expecting us to live with them. I’d pay full price for the game and like 5 bucks for the DLC. Just put the crap back in the game some way or another.
Posted by Kazahashi on February 25th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Comment # 406
I see 1 thing, SEGA say: is for down from “Mature Rating” to “All Rating”. but is a game Of Yakuza Mafia? the original Idea of this game is For Mature Gamers, Why cut The Hostess? I don’t understand the puritan people….(USA have the most Great Porno Industry and have the most great Weapon industry) Why cut a simple Hostess game?, and in the second term: the Trivia, may be not all the people can answer to all the trivia from SEGA, but that made me Investigate more about it…. and go inside of the old games of SEGA, Isn’t Logical?
Is incredible the japanese SEGA launch a version of American Shenmue “Shenmue USA”, but the SEGA of America can’t launch a Japanese version…. That sounds Very Medieval…..
I agreed with the some comments:”…. treat your consumers with more respect, please.”
Posted by Mic on February 25th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Comment # 407
to any SEGA exec reading this.. your company put out a bayonetta fix in like 2 weeks, that’s all we’re asking for is the fix on the way. ANY public word..just call up IGN or mention it here, just say “we got the message, we fixed it..patch on the way”
You can do it I have faith
Posted by matt on February 25th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Comment # 408
C’mon SEGA!!! GIVE US THE CUT CONTENT AS A DLC!!!
Posted by dragonofdojima17 on February 25th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Comment # 409
Dear Sega, I am extremely disappointed that Yakuza 3 has been cut because they (hostess bars) are great when you want to take a break from all the action and need to refresh yourself. I personally wanted to pick this title up over the big namers coming out the same day/month before learning that cuts were going to be made.
If time and money were to be the problem of this situation, I am willing to spent money on the missing content as DLC. I want a complete version and not a modified shortened version.
I am a Yakuza core fan and bought Yakuza 1 and 2 full priced and most likely I will support Yakuza 3 for the sake of Sega bringing over Yakuza 4 to the West. All I ask in return is to have faith in your fans to support your products.
Posted by Yakuza_fan16 on February 25th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Comment # 410
Cancel my pre-order, sorry Sega
Posted by Meteora Cedric on February 25th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Comment # 411
After what I did, sent you my plaque? C’mon. Its a punch to my face. Why should I let you hang my plaque up! Bring the cut content as a DLC, or please give me my plaque back ASAP. You don’t deserve it.
Posted by dragonofdojima17 on February 25th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Comment # 412
Please put the content back. You’re losing sales because of the cut. I don’t mind Answer x Answer getting cut but hostess club plays quite an important part of the game.
The first 2 Yakuza games had hostess clubs so I don’t see why it will be cut in the 3rd game.
Please Sega, you guys have done a great job with Sonic & All Stars Racing so please stop displeasing the fans.
Posted by cosmos89 on February 25th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Comment # 413
Doesn’t cut hostesses mean a lot of the game is actually screwed? A lot of my money spent in the last games went to shops for presents and hostess/host club. Wouldn’t removal of the hostess club actually screw with the game’s economy? Did you take out all the now irrelevant items and shops as well? Would it really taken that much longer to localize the hostess parts than to program the clubs, shops, and items out? Assuming you did anyway, and didn’t leave all hostess related things lingering!
Was it actually a licensing issue? Ageha didn’t want their girls in the US? Come on Sega, for “being upfront with us,” there’s obviously a lot more to this story than you’re telling us.
For now though, my preorder is canceled. Sorry, but I’m not playing a gimped game with some irrelevant excuse.
Posted by fhfhfh on February 25th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Comment # 414
SONY created the fix and patch for Bayonetta, S O N Y because Sega’s not capable of (worst port ever)
buy Yakuza 3 (or whats left of it) or not because Sega can’t handle it or doesn’t want to
pathetic but that’s the truth
Posted by Zero on February 25th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Comment # 415
Yeah, have fun keeping all those games in your storage and selling it to retail stores.
No buy for me. You messed up the Bayonetta game for the PS3. You put Valkyria Chronicles 2 on the PSP. You’re making crappy Sonic games and shenmue racing. Now you’re cutting content.
I predict your downfall soon. You will be closing down or be bought out cause YOU JUST LOST YOUR FAN’S SUPPORT.
It’s filled to the brim? Did it max 50GB dual layer for blu-ray? Not enough time? Delay it to avoid releasing it on FFXIII day. You started on Summer 2009? Do your work for once. If you’re paid to translate, then translate. You are not dubbing. You are just subbing. Are you retarded giving us this excuse?
Posted by Johnny Tremain on February 25th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Comment # 416
Ok, seriously. Why?! First you tell us that it wouldn’t resonate with us and now all of a sudden its either release it or not? Why the drastic change?
If you have a good reason for doing that than give it us. Not resonating with us is a downright lie and simply saying that it was either bring it to the west or not won’t make it work for us. I doubt that there was anything in those puzzles or hostess bars that would have made it a problem to bring it to the west. If it was a simple time problem than thers a good solution:
Delay it! We keep seeing developers delaying their games just to make sure that they give us the best product possible. Why can’t you do it? Its not like we couldn’t wait another month or two as long as its a complete game.
Sure it might be just some tiny content but its still content that we want. And I dare you to release it later as paid DLC.
If its just a financial problem than so what? I would be more than willing to donate some $ just to make sure that we get a complete game.
I’m sure that you tried your best to bring it over to the west but really.. we want this content and its pretty obvious by now. There are countless people around the globe who are upset by this.
So please, give us a complete game. If you start cutting content now then what about the games in the future? Will you cut even more content just so that you can shell out a English version in time?
Face it, people want quality products and in this case its a game.
Posted by ShadoX on February 25th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Comment # 417
@ 383
I’m not getting the game too because they is plenty to choose from in march, save FF13 cuz localization is FAIL like SEGA. Who knows what they pull in yakuza 4 release. They even managed to release a port as bad as hell for bayonetta with obvious flaws.
Honestly Sega your excuses are terribad, hostess was available in 2 and mahjong, shogi etc and time is not a excuse, consumers rather wait for a good game than get a game earlier full of flaws. For a company that doesn’t put consumers first won’t get my support. I am not getting this game period.
I want to experience the game the way its meant to be experienced not a inferior version. Whoever made that decision of either remove content or no release needs to get fired, seriously what a fail decision.
** if the excuse is something about pressure on Japan i.e. rapelay fiasco and bring a bad image on Japan. Seriously those faggots complaining need a reality check and worry more about the more serious fucking shit (rape, murder, etc) that is going wrong in their own fucked up country than the likes of others. Also it not like US is a PERFECT country. Oh and the stripper content is left in surely this is worse than hostess LOL Sega.
Posted by ross.harold on February 25th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Comment # 418
Oh and I bet if this game does bad your going to say of no yakuza 4 because lack of interest …… so think back to this page.
Seriously though the [people] that made this decision (no game or cut content) deserves to get fired since they are making SEGA lose money LOL
(edited slightly by kellie)
Posted by ross.harold on February 25th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Comment # 419
I’m very displeased with this announcement SEGA. I purchased both Yakuza games for PS2 and they are two of my all time favorite games. Hearing that content is being cut from Yakuza 3 when similar events were in the North American versions of the first 2, has made me rethink purchasing the game.
I urge you to please listen to your customers/fans and not cut content from the Western version. If this means another few months before the game is released, I’m sure the majority of your customers would not mind if this means receiving the complete game.
Posted by Kaioh Hokuto on February 25th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Comment # 420
@415
FF13 is a fail localization imo so not getting that too, wait for a price drop maybe.
The only games appealing to me if battlefield bad company 2 and god of war 3 =p
Posted by Anon on February 25th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Comment # 421
I do not support the cuts and i will not be buying this game
Posted by Alex on February 25th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Comment # 422
Ordered it as soon it was available, canceled it today because of the cuts.
I’m not buying this game when it is not clear what else is cut (Mahjong? Shobi?).
As soon as there is an official statement that the missing content will be released as a free DLC i’m more than willing to pre-order Yakuza 3 again! I’m confident so will plenty of the other disappointed Fans!
Just ask the big retailers how many pre-orders were canceled in the last few days!
So Sega, the Ball is on your court, pick it up and give the Fans what they want or you will face a financial disaster with this!!
Posted by Fendras on February 25th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Comment # 423
I posted once, but I’m still wondering. How the cuts don’t dig deep into the rest of the game? I don’t understand how ‘dates’ with the girls make sense anymore, or what purpose the shops and items that are exclusively for the girls are worth now? do they just get cut too? that’s seems to be too much.
Posted by fei0x on February 25th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Comment # 424
If you want to release a gold edition in a few months time with 100% of the content I’ll be happy to buy that. Until then you can peddle your game to that brick wall over there.
Posted by Fsho on February 25th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Comment # 425
@Meteora Cedric
Yeah many people here in Italy are cancelling their preorders:\
Posted by Sharkone on February 25th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Comment # 426
As a newcomer to the series, I am extremely disappointed to find out that content is being cut from Yakuza 3.
By releasing the game against such strong competition next month, (FFXIII and God of War III) you’re essensially shooting yourself in the foot by releasing an incomplete version of Yakuza 3. Will people buy the niche game with content cut from it, or will they instead stick with the two huge franchises that are offering a complete game?
You say you’re bringing over Yakuza for the fans, yet you’re letting them down by taking out features that were present in the japanese release, and the previous two Yakuza games.
This recent bad press is heavily damaging the games image before its release, and I think the sales will reflect that. It’s not that western gamers don’t want to buy games like Yakuza, it’s that they don’t want to buy games with cut content.
I urge you to listen to the countless fans that are speaking up in this blog, and find some way to fix this issue. Free DLC that restores the hostess content (and the mahjong, shoji, etc. minigames, if they have also been cut) will restore alot of peoples faith in the game.
Posted by Silly Skeleton on February 25th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Comment # 427
Seriously Sega, if this isn’t fixed by march 1st, I am switching my preorder to FF13. I played through Shenmue 1&2 and Yakuza 1&2…. I have been with you since Genesis and am currently 22 years old. This is the ONLY GAME I have ever preordered for any console!!!! I am really trying to believe in you guys but I losing hope.
Posted by Eddie on February 25th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Comment # 428
It’s pretty amazing that Yakuza has such a niche audience that loves this very esoteric cultural stuff and Sega decides to punch them in the gut by pulling the kind of things they love. This is a very niche product no matter how much Michael Madsen you put in it and turning off the hardcore fans ensures this will be another overlooked release.
I know the game is a few weeks away and the discs are already pressed so I suggest SEGA announce plans to restore the cut content in DLC if they don’t want it the game to be dead on arrival.
Posted by Nick on February 25th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Comment # 429
What a stupid decision. I consider myself a huge Yakuza fan, and even I am thinking of canceling my preorder on this. Getting all of that content cut, yet keeping the game at full price is inexcusable.
And the worst part about it is that this single decision pretty much cemented the future of the series, not that it hasn’t been butchered enough in the past installments.
At least have the decency of releasing the cut content as FREE dlc later on.
Posted by Sanctine on February 25th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Comment # 430
Press 1 if you’re not buying this now
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Posted by Sega_sux_bawls on February 25th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Comment # 431
Atlus wouldnt have cut anything
Posted by King on February 25th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Comment # 432
Maybe Sony/SE is looking at how crap FF13 sales and pre-orders are and they are forcing Sega to bork their superior game to get people to switch.
Or Sega could just be lazy. Either or.
Posted by bruce_billis on February 25th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Comment # 433
Oh and yeah, canceled my pre-order for this like everyone else, and I’m sure my wife’s father, the 2 guys at work that know about the game, and my brother will all cancel when I tell them. Now we both get to look like fools since I hyped the game to them, thanks again.
Good news though, I’m still getting RoF! Well, that is unless you guys decide to cut content on that too… I’ll keep watching for anyone “surprise announcements”.
Posted by bruce_billis on February 25th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Comment # 434
Sega! You don’t resonate with me anymore. so I can’t justify spending any more money on buying your games.
Thanks for the memories from the 90s.
Posted by ON99 on February 25th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Comment # 435
King, you’re absolutely right, and the sad part…..Atlus has less money and their titles are generally a LOT more niche than Sega’s.
So come on Sega, do the right thing, give us the content as DLC at the very least. If you’re dropping the game in March to meet your fiscal year crap, fine, whatever, but give us the content via DLC AT LEAST.
Hell, I’d PAY for it, though I think we shouldn’t have to.
Posted by Kazahashi on February 25th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Comment # 436
My preorder with Amazon has also been canceled.
I have no desire to support censorship nor do I want to be forced to shop at GameStop for an exclusive preorder bonus that’s on the disk and free to every other part of the world.
Posted by INMATEofARKHAM on February 25th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Comment # 437
Nope sega your going to earn $60 less from me, not getting an inferior version.
Was going to get this over other games in March but not anymore and probably won’t get anymore games from you. Bayonetta (PS3 Port) and now this, if this is how you treat your consumers then so be it.
# 422 – I personally wouldn’t pay for something that was originally there in the first place
Posted by lalalafail on February 25th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Comment # 438
I read your CYA update that sent you sent to Kotaku, and I reject your argument:
“Regarding Yakuza 3, we had a tight schedule to abide by for localizing and releasing Yakuza 3 in the west.”
That’s not the fault of customers. Someone should have communicated the importance of hostess clubs to management. It suggests you don’t understand the wants and desires of your (former) customers.
“Due to the limited time we were given we had to leave certain bits of the game out and we chose portions we felt didn’t resonate with western culture”
You keep acting like people are annoyed about trivia. It’s the hostess club. It absolutely resonates with western culture, and is extremely self-explanatory.
“given the options of releasing the next chapter of a beloved game so that our fans can experience the story of Yakuza vs. not releasing it at all”
False dichotomy. The third option is releasing Yakuza in its pure form. A fourth option would be to give us a discount for this shoddy excuse for a Yakuza game.
Sorry, no one is buying your sob story. Again, burn in hell!!
Posted by FormerSEGACustomer on February 25th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Comment # 439
I’m still going to buy it! since ryu ga gotokus or
Yakuza (here in europe) are heck of an game series..
I still don’t justify the removals of
- cabaret/host(ess) club visits / get-the-girls-to-like-you-sidegame
- train-the-best-hostess-sidegame
- massage palor minigame
- Shogi game
- Mah-jong game.
These things are essential in the game even outside Japan, one of the reasons why this game has succeed also in Europe, and in America is that the whole game is a like a virtual real life experience visit to japan. But when these are removed the feel disappears and the the touch of that realness in gone.. i hope Sega does hear, listen fans wishes and includes these even in down-loadable content through PlayStation Store in Europe/US… or postpones the release a little bit so that the game is 100% original and is like the original Japanese version.
Posted by Nekocatblackgrowl on February 25th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Comment # 440
I just have one question to Sega, why do you hate your fans? Actually, why do you hate your franchises? Why do you hate yourselfs? Sega is already out of the console business, i guess they also want to be out of the gaming business in general.
Posted by ShishidoJoe on February 25th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Comment # 441
How many copies have to sell so we can get a complete Yakuza 4?
Posted by Jason on February 25th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Comment # 442
Sega, you have heard all of us which think the same. if you’re goin to give it to us do it right.
Weather this will reach an executive eyes or not, I don’t know, but it should.. because we all think the same.
I hope this gets solved before the release date.
Posted by Joseph Edward on February 25th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Comment # 443
My Bro, lil Lui, is going to die…and his last wish was that he can play yakuza 3 to its fullest! and now he is dying without getting the full expirience…please give us the full game….Lil Lui is waiting for it!
Posted by Brother Que on February 25th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Comment # 444
http://www.petitiononline.com/Y3NACC/petition.html
Here’s a petition I started to get the content back in somehow….please sign guys so maybe we can get SEGA to give a damn.
Posted by Kazahashi on February 25th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Comment # 445
I am sadly disappointed in the decision to remove some of the content in Yakuza 3.
If the decision was to try to made the game more approachable for the enjoyment of the casual impluse purchaser then whoever made that decision need to be reasigned because it alienated a very large portion of the historical fan base. In addition that ill will is spreading on the net and it will further surpress the casual sales the descision maker wanted to expand.
Even if the descision was motivate to avoid the chance that a new outlet would make a show piece/witchhunt of Yakuza 3, that witchhunt would have spured additional sales. If you get the chance ask the descion maker why does he/she think that Rockstar puts such antisocial content and beating a prostitude to get your money back in a game. They do that because 1. its a game so it is something different and will attract controversy and atttention to help sell product and 2. to allow the player to do something that they wouldn’t do in reallife [let's all hope]. Note I am not advocating being that classless;)
If whomever made the decision was a person who believe the content would be bad from kids they should be fired for not relaizing the age demographics of the typical game buyer in the US. Even if it was on the hope to get a lower rating the ESRB it was a poor descion.
My wife and I took a vacation in Tokyo two years ago and we walked through Kabukicho just to see what it visually was like. It was a very interesting experience in that as an outsider it felt very safe. The touts obivously left the foreign couple alone but even that was an interest part of our relatively shallow experience there [since we just walked the area]. I was looking forward to seeing Yakuza 3′s story telling refined take on the expierence since as a non-native Japanese speakers we did not want to intrude.
Disappointed that we will not beable to relive that aspect of our vacation.
My pre-order with GameStop will be canceled this weekend.
Still, I wish you luck and success in future endevors but it will be difficult for me to get excited about future Sega products because of this descission. When considering games to buy in the future I am going to be very skeptical.
Posted by Sadly Disappointed on February 25th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Comment # 446
What do we want?
We want hostess.
What do we need?
We need trivia.
What does Sega need to do in order to not lose money?
Give us those content as free DLC or delay game to add those in.
Posted by Seijiro Hiko on February 25th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Comment # 447
I’m still buying it. :] Thanks for bringing it over, hoping for yakuza 4 as well.
Posted by Honkie on February 25th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Comment # 448
This is so stupid, even if I would want to support the western release of Yakuza 3 by pre-ordering, I wouldn’t dare to do it without seeing the first reviews that come in. Think about it, we haven’t really heard an “official” confirmation to the extent of the cuts. Could be that we are missing more than just the hostess clubs and a few mini-games? I very much doubt the 99% statement, could be more like 5-10% of content that has been left on the cutting room floor.
SEGA there is still time to fix this, make an effort. If you do nothing, you will most likely lose 10-30% of sales for this title on release day. I will not commit on purchasing a title that is not complete or I do not know what is missing from it.
Posted by Tequilazen on February 25th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Comment # 449
I just moved my preorder to another game a little while ago. Good job Sega. I’m not buying your games anymore. I honestly don’t know how you always manage to fuck up so badly.
Posted by James on February 26th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Comment # 450
WHHHHYYYY !!!!!
we want the whole package why cut things …. gezz the must treat your fans in good way ….
Posted by Applonee on February 26th, 2010 at 2:09 am
Comment # 451
I defend almost every things that considered to be bad in Yakuza 3 & SEGA.
1. 1 year gap from the Japanese version ->
As waiting for the English version, we, the fans, finally have the chance to enjoy Yakuza 3 in English.
And the English demo finally released several days before, thus complaints starts to pour in.
*Graphic = The graphic still fine to me.
*Game-play = I love the game-play.
*Last Gen Impressions = I don’t mid if it’s “PS2 game with 720p HD” & yes, I don’t mind text boxes.
*Price Tag = I don’t mind shelled out a full $60 for this game……… Yet.
2. The cover art ->
I have once told that I don’t care about the English version cover art. Well…
The English cover art is bad, in my opinion…
If it’s this consoling for SEGA / whoever design the cover art, my anticipated games such as Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, & God Of War 3 are also have average cover box-art.
The difference is, Yakuza 3 is niche compare to those 3 monster games.
So don’t expect anyone who would bought Yakuza 3 because of the “uninspiring” cover and rather choose Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and / or God Of War 3 because it’s more “famous”…
3. Release date ->
After Heavy Rain.
AT THE SAME TIME with FINAL FANTASY XIII.
And BEFORE GOD OF WAR 3.
………………………
4. Price tag ->
Like I said before, I don’t mind shelled out a full $60 for a 1 year old game as long it’s “100% complete” and the rumors are not true.
Alas the irony………
5. Contents cut ->
………………………
No.
I am not going to defend this.
I AM NOT GOING TO DEFEND THIS!!!
Anyone who still buying Yakuza 3 English version even with the contents cut, I pray & hope you still enjoy the game.
As for me…
Bargain bin.
SEGA, enjoy Yakuza 3 sales in the same day of Final Fantasy XIII & before God Of War 3.
Hopefully we would get Yakuza 4 and / or Kenzan in 5 years later + 75% contents cut.
/sarcasm.
Posted by Cloudberry on February 26th, 2010 at 2:58 am
Comment # 452
I was about to buy a PS3 just for this game. 300$ just to play Yakuza 3!
I’ve enjoyed so much branching conversation trees in hostess clubs in the previous 2 iterations.
But now, with drastic cuts like these, I guess you can play it yourselves.
Stripped down beatdowns, devoid of exotic distractions, may suffice to the ‘god of war 3′ pre-order crowd, but not here.
Enjoy my DISAPPOINTMENT added to the fray!
Posted by bernard on February 26th, 2010 at 5:04 am
Comment # 453
SEGA I feel sorry for you, you have the worst and most fickle fanbases out of any game company I know. You should just cancel Yakuza 3 and let all these wannabe Japanese cry in a closet.
Posted by anon on February 26th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Comment # 454
It’s like you’re going out of your way to ruin this, cut content, same release date as FF13 (what are you smoking for this to seem a good idea)
is this so you can throw your hands up and go “WELP WE TRIED” and abandon the thought of taking a risk on yakuza 4 and kenzan? sega why can you never do anything right, first sonic and now this you just have this amazing ability to fall on your face a metre from the finish line every single time.
Posted by Dano on February 26th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Comment # 455
Japanese publishers always seem to find a way to f**k us over. I’m giving up on you, it’s no just worth investing time and emotion in you when in the end, all you get is a truckload of sh*t poured over you.
Do the right thing, give us additional japanese original voice acting and don’t remove any parts of the game.
Posted by Green Tea on February 26th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Comment # 456
I don’t support any kinds of content cut from a “perfectly” working game
I wish also reps at sega would treat us more like a adult GAMERS than Americans, cultural differences? What a lame fucking excuse. Its already a Japanese orientated game and hostess parts are in yakuza 2, why not rename if it to gamgster 2 oh and change all to cities names to New York and LA and why not remodel Kazuma to Bradd Pitt too while your at it. Lol and strippers left in while hostess left out, whats so bad about hostesses. The reason I like this game is cuz of the differences in cultural and if I don’t know anything about the culture then educate me not treat me like a kid and leave it out.
I am not getting this game period and since Sega goes this far, I won’t be surprised about yakuza 4. Bayonetta PS#3 port already failed as it is.
Posted by ralph on February 26th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Comment # 457
The funny thing about all of this is that Yakuza 3 is basically a game that only fans of Yakuza & Yakuza 2 are interested in… so cutting content is a huge mistake. I know I won’t be buying Yakuza 3 as it stands right now. Thanks but no thanks. Speak with your dollars! (or lack of dollars as the case may be!)
Posted by Ujn Hunter on February 26th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Comment # 458
sega can you clarify what exactly you took out? Kotaku had a post saying you can still go into cabaret clubs and date the girls so I’m assuming the only thing hostess wise you took out was the management scenario? (that would be a quick fix DLC!)
Can you post a blog again about this? CLARIFY! IT MIGHT SAVE YOU $$SALES$$
*also the massage part of the game.. that was was..3 lines of text to translate? I don’t even care if you leave the button mapping the same..bring it back as well if you would please!
Posted by Matthew on February 26th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Comment # 459
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9tqQWagwO4 This video summarizes EVERYONE’S thought’s and feelings
Posted by Seven5 on February 26th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Comment # 460
At least its coming out at all, people should stop complaining about things being cut out, if they want the original experience with all the japanese culture intact then they should be playing an imported copy of it in japanese.
Posted by schuyler on February 26th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Comment # 461
I know that I am a voice drown in all of these voices that just screams they hate it. There are many points that some of them brought up.
1) Releasing this news a few days before launch? If you’ve already decided to do that from the start, then at least let the audience know. How did you think we would feel if you told us the day before?
2) A lot of companies really need to understand this: There isn’t much as a culture shock as say….the 1990s. What’s the point of bringing a game to the western hemisphere and then modifying it?
This reminds me of Nier where the company decided: HEY! ITS THE WESTERN. THEY WOULD WANT TO PLAY THIS OLD MAN.
I just wished companies would do polls and what not before deciding what they THINK we would want.
Posted by Davis on February 26th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Comment # 462
Maybe SEGA is putting this game out at a loss to it’s fans, because SEGA actually cares about them even if they do nothing but complain all the time. After all, Yakuza 1 and 2 sold so poorly that profit isn’t even an option anymore, if at the end of the day they can break even on Y3 and show a gesture of goodwill to the fans then they’ve done good.
So SEGA had to make some compromises to make this happen because in the real world there are deadlines and other little industry “pleasures” one has to deal with. So some of the lesser stuff got axed, big deal! SEGA’s not stupid, they know what their fans want. But they have to break even somewhere, otherwise it’s like whoring yourself for free. At the end of the day you have the game, and the fans should be thankful for that much.
Like I said, SEGA knows this game isn’t going to make much (they weren’t even going to localize it) and so they just did this one for the fans. After this little prepubescent outrage, they’re probably never going to listen to their fans again. Can you blame them? Whether it’s Sonic or Yakuza, SEGA’s fanbase has forgotten what it means to be a fan, and instead thinks they’re investors and are entitled to whatever they demand.
If I were SEGA, I’d put out a blog post that said “F*CK YOU THE GAME HAS BEEN CANCELLED” and cut my losses.
After all, if you really want the Japanese experience, import a copy.
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 26th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Comment # 463
* Censored cuts are a big let down.
Posted by Spectreman on February 26th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Comment # 464
I’d posted already. #310, I believe.
I just need to ad to the complaints, that I too was going to purchase a PS3 just for this game.
I have been looking forward to it, and saving money for months.
This news of an edited game is astonishing. Sega has burned their fan base numerous times in the past. Ass another incident to their idiocy.
As others have stated. I WILL NOT BE PURCHASING YAKUZA 3 anytime soon.
However the Yakuza games were some of my favorite from the last generation, and I desperately was looking forward to part 3, so I’m sure in a year or two I might spend $15-20 on a bargain bin copy.
Truly astonished that a game company has so little understanding nor respect for their fan base!
Posted by Steelers 2010 on February 26th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Comment # 465
I will not buy a censored game. PERIOD.
Posted by Subenu on February 26th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Comment # 466
Just to expand on my previous post and hopefully clarify why these features are so important to long time fans:
Yakuza is a unique beast, with its storyline & plethora of minigames both integral to the snapsnot of japanese culture. The game is very much the sum of its parts -
Sega’s statement that the storyline is unaffected is not good enough – the gameplay through diversity & storyline are equally important in the Yakuza franchise.
By removing expected aspects of japanese culture that were present in previous titles, they have gutted a key part of the series authenticity. You were so close Sega – if you’d just done your jobs properly and released the full game in 2 weeks, all your recent failings could’ve been forgiven, alas, this is just the latest in a litany of screwups and like many others, I’ve had enough. I do not need Sega to screen out content they think western audiences might not identify with/like – they are being paid to localise a product, not whichever parts of it they deem, in their infinite wisdom, to be important. In the case of Yakuza – the fanbase knows what it wants and this revelation at the eleventh hour is neither honest, nor upfront – indeed if the issue hadn’t been noted by keen eyed players of the Yakuza 3 demo – would Sega have even commented on it prior to release?
Two things would be nice at this point – absolute clarification on what exactly has been cut & given the general response from fans, does Sega intend to reinstate any of the cut content.
Posted by Terra_EX on February 26th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Comment # 467
Unfortunately, Sega, I also have a hard choice to make. That choice is now to stand by my principle that censoring a product is wrong, and i will not be purchasing this game. I will instead be picking up Battlefield Bad Company 2 along with my copy of Final Fantasy 13. (launching Yakuza 3 against that game already assured it would tank, of course, but I’m still going through with this)
Of course some of these things would not sell to western gamers in general, but if you think western gamers in general have any interest in a Japanese mafia game with Japanese voice acting, then you are completely out of your mind. This better part of the game audience over here are japanohpiles who want the whole genuine experience. Don’t give us that deadline excuse either, Yakuza 3 in NA isn’t going to make an impact on Sega’s quarterly earning, we all know that. IF it dos, it’ll be a negative one, because this move pissed off the niche group of people you were trying to sell it to.
Seriously, Yakuza 3 with censorship against FF13, and Resonance of Fate against God of War 3. It’s like you actively look for ways to sabotage your own goddamn company from the inside out. Are you people seriously not able to scrap together even a small amount of business savvy?
Posted by Steve on February 26th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Comment # 468
I’m still buying this game and very much looking forward to it, but hopefully SEGA will listen to this feedback and perhaps offer a download of the missing content at some point in the future. Totally boycotting the game is a bad idea that could make them re-think releasing future sequels in the U.S.
Posted by mark mcdowell on February 26th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Comment # 469
re: #466:
“By removing expected aspects of japanese culture that were present in previous titles, they have gutted a key part of the series authenticity.”
if you want the game to be authentically Japanese, buy a Japanese copy. Because playing a Japanese game with English subtitles isn’t really authentically Japanese.
“if you’d just done your jobs properly”
who are you to tell sega anything!? Your job (which you need to do properly) is to shut the hell up, give SEGA money and hope for the best.
“I’ve had enough. I do not need Sega to screen out content they think western audiences might not identify with/like – they are being paid to localise a product, not whichever parts of it they deem, in their infinite wisdom, to be important.”
You don’t even know the meaning of the words you use. To translate is to directly convert a game from one language into another with all content intact. Localization implies cutting content that may be too foreign for the region of release.
“In the case of Yakuza – the fanbase knows what it wants”
Then why don’t you all get off SEGA’s ass and make your own Yakuza game?
If I was SEGA, I’d be embarassed to have fans like you.
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 26th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Comment # 470
I wish I did pre-order (I was waiting to see what sega screwed up) just so I could cancel it and sega would see another lost sale from their incompetence.
Posted by noxxa on February 26th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Comment # 471
RubyEclipse:
Corporate plants like NinjaBinger aside, how does it feel to see a blog where posts normally don’t top twenty comments receive nearly five hundred replies…all negative?
Is this the reaction you wanted? The one you expected? Do you honestly expect Yakuza 3 to be anything but one of the biggest flops of 2010?
And finally, will Sega have the gall to blame anyone but themselves when this game has tanked?
Posted by TowelFight on February 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Comment # 472
i don’t usually bother commenting on blog sites, but i feel impelled to express my dissatisfaction with this culling of content from a great game. i cant believe that sega had no idea of the affection that the western audience had for the cabaret club mini games. what is yakuza game with the ability to romance hostesses! this is extraordinary. i am a shenmue fan so my suffering at the hands of sega is long standing, but this has really opened up the wounds again. sega you need to make an announcement about how you will remedy this and promise us that it will be included later as downloadable content. otherwise you will lose the sales from the hardcore fan base. i cant believe they give us this only announcement 2 weeks before launch! without inclusion of this missing content later via patch i am not buying until its cheap pre owned.
Posted by john on February 26th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Comment # 473
although im disappointed with sega’s decision to remove content, I understand if they had budgetary concerns. a version is better than no version, unfortunately. Wouldn’t it have made sense to release the game as download only, thus saving on packaging and physical products? also why is the game so text heavy. next gen consoles deserve more than text scrolls but japanese games seem to to love them (prof. layton is similar). GTA 4 a comparable game wtih driving also has more cutsecenes and very little text. i dont mind reading subtiltes if some one is talking but when im scrolling text and pushing x, well ill read a book….one can only wonder about yakuza 4….
p.s. i will be buying the game…at some point…..
Posted by potential customer on February 26th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Comment # 474
also why release the game between god of war 3 and final fantasy? big mistake. heavy rain is also out. three triple A titles….doom and gloom….
Posted by potential customer on February 26th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Comment # 475
This was unnecessary as you can see… Over 400+ posts and still growing.
Yakuza is not crappy game to be cut, people will get upset!
Sega why is it so hard to announce DLC and redeem yourself?? It is not too late
Posted by Jackal on February 26th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Comment # 476
I’m not a corporate plant. bro. I have no intentions of working for SEGA. I want to work for CAVE. <3 <3
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 26th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Comment # 477
Actually, being a corporate plant for SEGA might not be such a bad thing. Thanks for the idea, TowelFight!
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 26th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Comment # 478
Sorry Sega. Count me as one who doesn’t like the cuts. Not buying pre order canceled.
Posted by Moe on February 26th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Comment # 479
I’m still going to get it but I’d be lying if i said i wasn’t massively disappointed. The hostess bar segments were some of the funniest moments in the previous 2 games. You really got to see the sensitive side of Kazuma.
Posted by Jasper on February 26th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Comment # 480
I’m new to the Yakuza series. Didn’t know about it at all until a friend got me to play the demo. I was considering preordering it.. until i found out about this “cut content” thing. The whole reasons behind the cut content sounds a lot like “Western Gamers are too dumb to understand this… better cut it” to me which is a real slap in the face for someone who’s supported Sega ever since the genesis days. I’m not angry mind you just very disappointed that a company that i respected would give bad excuses for pulling a censorship that almost has an early 90′s mentality to it. I’m sorry to say that more then likely I’ll wait for a bargain bin copy of the game.. if i even get it at all.
Posted by WDN on February 26th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Comment # 481
“also why release the game between god of war 3 and final fantasy? big mistake. heavy rain is also out. three triple A titles….doom and gloom….”
Perhaps someone is trying to push it out before March 31 fiscal year hoping to get a bigger bonus. However, it seems that bonus is shrinking as the number of comments on this blog grows.
Posted by JennaN on February 26th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Comment # 482
Where were all of you, who are so enraged now by the cutting of a small portion of the game, when the first two titles were being released? Yakuza 2 was released just over two years ago and sold terribly. Maybe if you all had actually supported the first two titles and bought them day one, Sega would have had a clear signal that the games had a market in the US and spent more time and money bringing them over untouched.
As someone who has pre-ordered all three games, I have a hard time believing most of those complaining actually were planning to buy the game day one or even spent enough time with the hostess quests to truly feel so cheated at their being cut.
I think itd be interesting to actually get the pre-order figures for the Yakuza series and see how many people are actually canceling and how many people are just sending hollow threats for a game they werent going to buy day one in the first place.
Posted by Brian on February 26th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Comment # 483
“who are you to tell sega anything!? Your job (which you need to do properly) is to shut the hell up, give SEGA money and hope for the best.”
Ha ha, oh wow. It’d be embarrassing if anyone sincerely believed this is the case.
Posted by Jarsh on February 26th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Comment # 484
Jarsh, it’d be embarassing if you sincerely thought you were not a weeaboo faggot.
Also, now 75% of preorders have been cancelled according to GameRoom Blitz editor ManekiNeko. Are you happy for killing SEGA over some virtual Japanese tits, guys? I hope that one day you meet a real Yakuza, and decides to take a little more than your pinky off…
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 26th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Comment # 485
If we buy the censored release, we’re essentially telling SEGA it’s OK to cut stuff.
If we wait until it hits bargain bins, then we can say goodbye to Yakuza 4.
Damned if we buy, damned if we don’t.
PS: 7th Dragon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by denpanosekai on February 26th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Comment # 486
In response to comment #482:
“Maybe if you all had actually supported the first two titles and bought them day one, Sega would have had a clear signal that the games had a market in the US and spent more time and money bringing them over untouched.”
We did support the first two titles. Unfortunately, the majority of gamers in the West would rather play Modern Warfare or Madden. The Japanese gaming scene is eclectic and varied, whereas here, it’s mostly FPS fans.
I would rather send a message to Sega in not choosing to buy this game and have the worst sales figures of all time, than see a cut down, edited release.
Posted by Erick on February 26th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Comment # 487
“Jarsh, it’d be embarassing if you sincerely thought you were not a weeaboo faggot.
Also, now 75% of preorders have been cancelled according to GameRoom Blitz editor ManekiNeko. Are you happy for killing SEGA over some virtual Japanese tits, guys? I hope that one day you meet a real Yakuza, and decides to take a little more than your pinky off…”
This is some deserved good news, hopefully even more preorders get cancelled. Such despicable decisions must be answered by action and not only words.
Also this isn’t about your so called virtual sinuses. First, it’s fact that it’s a traditional feature in the Yakuza series and is even heavily advertised in Japan which shows the significance of the content.
Secondly the fact alone that they cut content and tried to withhold the information to the latest point trying to sell it at full price even though it’s in indeed not the full game.
To sum up what you’re defending right now and what they’ve done:
1. Cut content worth 5 trophies(10%).
2. Withheld the information and probably wouldn’t have told anyone till everybody has got their copies and wonders where the content is and notice that they were ripped off. Luckily, some good people noticed it and asked the questions.
Also they still have to specify the cut content.
3. Treating you like dirt, an uninformed lowlife citizen who they can fool as much as they want.
Let them off the hook now and they’ll do it again, because then they’ll know you’re docile.
Furthermore you should think about what you’re writing. Even as a joke it’s not funny that you wish people harm in any way.
Posted by Daruma on February 26th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Comment # 488
When will Sega US / Europe learn how not to waste everything they touch ?
Yakuza 3 : a no buy for me, as long as missing japanese content is not announced into a free DLC.
Posted by Baltros on February 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Comment # 489
No buy for me. I really wanted to buy this game too but I hate censorship and in this case “Cutting out” stuff. The game is already for 18+ , why not just leave it in? It is just being lazy. Just give us the full experience. Yakuza 3 is great, the Hostess part would be just for fun to have a break from all the fighting and do something else.
Now we will be stuck with all the Money in Yakuza 3 and have nothing to spend it on.
Enjoy your screw-up Sega. I don’t care if you bring over Yakuza 4 or not, since you will butcher it anyway.
Just take your time and postpone the release date of Yakuza 3. Translate all the stuff and give it to us. And great job competing with God of War III and FF13, nobody will buy Yakuza 3 and then you can whine about “how yakuza was unsuccesful”
Posted by BIG on February 26th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Comment # 490
i’m going to buy this game used or off ebay so sega wont get any profit. People we should start a petition to make sega bring back the edited content as DLC!!!! Or if you still want to buy the game just ebay it or buy it used. This is bull!!! Why would you remove something you had in your previous games that fans really enjoyed? sega is one of those people who dont listen to their fanbase, they rather bring out another horrible Sonic game than re-release shenmue on ps3 or 360. What the heck is wrong with sega?
Posted by darkseifer on February 26th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Comment # 491
wow sega u disappoint yet again
Posted by Seattle Washington on February 26th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Comment # 492
I’m still buying your game when it comes out sega, I really hope you add the missing content through Ps3 DLC. I think your sales will go up to if you promise people that. I’m too much of a fan of the Yakuza series to not get this game on release date. My preorder stands, hopefully the missing content will be downloadable in the near-future.
Posted by Achilles on February 26th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Comment # 493
Sega please repeat your blog and clarify.
ATTN everyone! If you go on wikipedia you’ll read about how they are reporting you CAN go into hostess clubs…the only thing taken out was the managing the hostess club.
I’m not defending Sega at all but if we don’t support yakuza 3, than yakuza 4 or kenzan will never come over here.
To RubyEclisp: I feel bad for ya, one small bit of typing you did brought preorder sales crashing, and everyone freaking out. Talk to your people and get the word out that hostess clubs ARE in the game..and your people are discussing what to put back in the game at a later DLC download. This would fix EVERYTHING. But if you don’t do it right away it’ll be a total disaster, time is everything… get the word out now!
Posted by matthew on February 26th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Comment # 494
Wow Sega >:( Way to go, way to alienate your loyal base. Even though, we appreciate the effort of bringing it over to the US, we want Yakuza 3 is all its glory.
I was willing to forgive the HORRENDOUS box art for the game and pay the full $59.99 price (which by the way is a 100% increase from the Yakuza 2 game). Since I’m a Yakuza fan, I’ll still buy the game, eventually, however my enthusiasm has DIED (killjoys). I’m not in a rush to play the game and will wait for a price drop instead (buy off ebay, used bin, etc…) instead of paying full price for missing content and crappy box art.
The host/hostess missions were very enjoyable to me and I spend many hours in Yakuza 2 managing the hostess club mission. That side mission along with some others(which some are rumored to have been dropped too) was a nice break from all the action of the main storyline and helped establish an authentic feel (if its just a little bit) of Tokyo/Osaka nightlife. The side activities like the hostess club/host club, along w/ the main story line helped make the Yakuza series what it is.
You might not think that Americans care about these cuts (quiz game cut I could understand)that you think are minuscule, but I do and apparently from reading hundreds of comments, tons of other fans do.
Anyways, I’ve given up all hope that Yakuza 4 will ever see these shores, This is based on your incompetence to properly localize Yakuza 3 (minimal marketing, bad release timing, crappy box art, cut content), thus insuring dismal sales. Remember sega, its not the fans fault this time around >:( Better start brushing up on my japanese…
Posted by raye on February 26th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Comment # 495
@492 N:matthew
Sorry, Wikipedia is not a viable source. Even I can manipulate it. The blogpost itself specifies pretty clearly that Hostess Clubs in general has been cut including the management.
What they have left inside is the possibility to “grab” one of the hostesses from the clubs and go eating or play minigames with them. You could say the minigames become a Player VS. CPU. That’s what they mean with dating.
Long story short: Dating = CPU opponent at minigames.
The hostess club itself plus the whole discussion at club thing + substories are most probably cut(see missing trophies).
I do understand your concern about Yakuza 4, but what you’re acutally doing is kinda like “blackmailing”.
The only thing you’re currently supporting is this shady policy of ripping people off with absolutely NO GUARANTEE that they are going to do ANYTHING.
On the contrary of what you believe, what you’re really saying is this:”Oh thank you SEGA for selling me an incomplete product. Please keep doing it!”
On top of that SEGA themselves is keeping this issue as good as they can on this blog. I see no warning at the official PS blog which makes it apparent that they only have ill intentions as it stands.
Yakuza 3 might not be the only victim of this practice. This whole issue can spread past Yakuza 3 that’s why we have to act and stop it right here. Support good treatment, resist bad treatment. It’s simple as that.
Posted by Daruma on February 26th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Comment # 496
Almost 500 posts and still no official word on what is exactly cut and or if it will be addressed through a DLC fix/patch….
Not looking good for the US/UK getting Yakuza 4 with all these pre-order cancels…
Posted by chifanpoe on February 26th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Comment # 497
@493
Totally understand where you are coming from.. I’m just worried about this franchise getting killed by Sega’s own stupid decisions. What gives me hope…is that it’s totally fixable by THEM. If it’s just 1% missing from the game, why not bring it back in or comment that they will in the future? *shrugs* nothing to lose.. could even charge it for those who really want it … I dunno.
It’s a double edge sword right now.. but fixable if SEGA wakes up and solves the problem. But I know where you’re coming from.. i’ve waited too long to play this game so i’m going to buy day 1 but I understand why you’re not for that.
Posted by Matthew on February 26th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Comment # 498
I’m buying it, but I’m definitely disappointed. Running a host club and acting as a host made up hours of gameplay for me in Y2. It’s a damn shame that the host stuff was cut (as well as Shogi and Mahjong, if these other posts are to be believed…)
Posted by TheCleaningGuy on February 26th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Comment # 499
Your order has been successfully canceled. For your reference, here’s a summary of your order:
You just canceled order #xxx-xxxxxxx-xxxxxxx placed on January 11, 2010.
Status: CANCELED
_____________________________________________________________________
1 of Yakuza 3
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC
Posted by zoglog on February 26th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Comment # 500
Not buying the whole “Westerners wont understand Hostess Bars” thing. I’ll forgive you for this move and buy the game if, and only if, you bring Ryū ga Gotoku Kenzan! complete and uncensored. Now SEGA, for Yakuza 4:
- No Dubbing
- No Removing content thinking we wont understand it, we are no living in a globalized world.
-YES: Just translate/localize and sub the game in English with original Japanese Audio
-YES: Any additional content, extras, bonuses or AAA quality DLC.
Thank YOU!
Posted by Yakuza Fan on February 26th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Comment # 501
I agree with matthew on this SEGA, SAY SOMETHING DAMNIT!!!! When there’s 500 posts about this, a petition, loss in preorders, and your forums look like the aftermath of an atomic bomb, it’s time to say something and put people’s minds at ease so we can all re-order our games. Hell, I’ll get it DAY ONE if you just ANNOUNCE that we get the stuff as DLC.
Posted by Ryan Erickson on February 26th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Comment # 502
Just cancelled my pre order….i feel dumped by SEGA…
give us back what had been cut and i will redo my decision…but first its your turn!
i dont wanna have yakuza 4…it will be chopped too under this circumstances if we don,t react now!
Posted by Ryu on February 26th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Comment # 503
@NinjaBringer
I don’t think you know what a weeaboo is. But keep on bending over for Sega and supporting practices that should have ended over 10 years ago in the video game industry, broheim.
Posted by Jarsh on February 26th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Comment # 504
Unbelieveable SEGA, just unbelievable…
Posted by Menace on February 26th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Comment # 505
I was excited to see how SEGA was actually advertising Yakuza 3, unlike the other installments. Press is good and I want to see this series do well in western markets. That being said, there have been quite a number of screw ups. The main ones being the boxart which pales in comparison to the Japanese cover and a release date near FF13. And now this, the removal of the hostess bars. As much as it sucks to admit, sales are tanking because of this development. As they say, sex sells. it would be wise to provide a version of Yakuza 3 as close to the Japanese version as possible. I look forward to seeing Kazuma soon in all his untouched glory.
Posted by JP on February 26th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Comment # 506
Why does Sega still even exist? Didn’t Sony run them out of town?
Also why was the Bayonetta ps3 port so bad?
Is Sega run by a bunch of monkeys or something?
Posted by Your Mom on February 26th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Comment # 507
An incomplete game deserves an incomplete purchase.
PRE-ORDER CANCELED!!!!!
Posted by lol is SEGA serious on February 26th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Comment # 508
Sega, unlike these ungrateful “fans,” I’m still very pleased to be actually getting Yakuza 3! Everyone sounds like whining babies. You can express your feelings in a more mature manner. Obviously, it’s disappointing to see the hostess bars go, because honestly it’s a fun dating sim gameplay. Regardless, this game as it is being given to the Western audience, will probably be one of my favorite games ever. Please consider the controversy around the decision to cut content when you (HOPEFULLY) bring Yakuza 4 to the West. I love every aspect of the Yakuza series. All the gameplay elements work together to create a wonderful and varied experience. It is sad to see content cut. It dampers the Yakuza 3 experience a bit. Please bring Yakuza 4 to me in all its glory.
Posted by Brandon Ditto on February 26th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Comment # 509
Sega, if you read this…aren’t you afraid that western games are killing you off? a handfull of japanese game makers still exist from the domination that was the 90′s..now look at, you guys can’t even make a sonic game without it failing. Sega, u hold some of the lowest metacritic scores of all time fora developer…maybe you should ask “why?”
Posted by yokem on February 26th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Comment # 510
Great job with the Yakuza 3 release. Cutting content that was in the first two games and then playing it off because “Westerners won’t get it” is the worst excuse ever. Oh, and releasing it the same day as Final Fantasy 13, golden. Sega should have just let another publisher get this game released. I’m sure Ignition or Atlus would have dubbed, subtitled, and WOULDN’T have cut content from the game.
Posted by Brandon on February 27th, 2010 at 12:19 am
Comment # 511
“Treating you like dirt, an uninformed lowlife citizen who they can fool as much as they want.”
I’m not uninformed, I was never going to buy Yakuza anyway. As for lowlife, that’s dead on the money. You think SEGA tries to rip you off? You’ve never done business with me before.
And yeah, I can see where maybe SEGA kinda fucked you guys over. I’m sticking up for them because back in the 80′s they were the shit (Out Run/Space Harrier/Fantasy Zone wut wut), and that’s all I care about. I OWE THEM MY SUPPORT. As mentioned, you’re the fuckee, not me.
SEGA hasn’t fooled me, I’m SEGA’s loyal fan from way back when. I’ll be the first to tell you, it hasn’t been an easy road. But what’s fun and easy? NOTHING!
The hilarious part is, if Nintendo or Treasure or some other developer did this, you guys wouldn’t complain, you’d just take it. Because it’s SEGA, you think you can pick on them. Go to hell.
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 27th, 2010 at 12:42 am
Comment # 512
People sticking up for Sega when they basically got caught pulling a fast one(again), saddens me. You know what they did with the Valkryia Chronicles DLC? They just keep dropping the ball instead of passing it to someone who wants to do the job RIGHT.
Posted by king_ruckus on February 27th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Comment # 513
@NinjaBinger,
Dun you get it why we are so angry about? We are not angry becos it is Sega or whatever. I am also Sega fans and yakuza fans, I think that they make good game. We are angry that the fact that they took out something that should be included in the first place, this is a matter of principal. It is not what damn virtual woman or shit we wan, but the ability to play the game as full as before. The side mission and mini game that play a huge role in the game, that is what we want.
Can you imagine that you got to play GTA4 without any side mission? This is the feeling we get u know? Anyway I am wasting time talking to ppl like you who do not intent to buy the game in the first place, why are you here if you dun wan to buy it?
What I can tell you is that I will still buy the game even without the content that had been cut out and support the game.
I am just disappointed in their action and the way the treat the game and the fans. They might know how to make game but they do not know how to build up public relationship and customers satifaction.
Posted by Jason on February 27th, 2010 at 2:34 am
Comment # 514
I’m still buying it. no one care about the japanese quiz show i swear, because it’s out of our knowledge for sure. but it’s always problem when you mess with the girls.
if you can’t really do the localization for it in time, why not just lock it away, and release it as an update later? i’m sure there will be no culture shock or anything. i mean the world set in japan, you’d expect those cultural things to be strange if you are not used to japanese cultural. more like a cultural lesson for me.
or you can just make it as the Cabaret club like Yakuza 2. no one would complain a single bit.
still, two copies from me Sega! keep up the good work.
Posted by Heartless141 on February 27th, 2010 at 3:04 am
Comment # 515
Hey SEGA. I’ll give you some advice to make more money for free.
-Use the Japanese version of Yakuza 3′s cover. The cover is so damn ugly for US. Just remove the cigarette if that’s a problem.
-Don’t cut out any content and screw your fans over. I have no idea why you need to cut content from the game. You had a year to do the localization. The Hostess Bar was in the previous Yakuza games and the Trivia which I do not care much for should also be included. What’s wrong with learning something about Japan?
-Stop telling us what we want. Listen to us.
-Hire new people. Seriously. Who ever is doing the marketing for this and your other great games must suck. Ugly cover for Yakuza 3. Horrible commercial for Bayonetta with no game play.
-Fire the Sonic Team. They suck. Do you guys ever read reviews of your games?
Really, all you had to do was just translate the game Japanese to English. Leave the dub in Japanese. I know many people who are going to cancel their pre-orders because of the cut content. All the anime nerds, weaboos and japanophiles are upset.
I’m not sure what you guys are trying to do. The game is about a JAPANESE guy who talks JAPANESE, lives in JAPAN and is a JAPANESE gangster doing JAPANESE things. Are you guys trying to WESTERNIZE this game?
Posted by NicoNico on February 27th, 2010 at 4:00 am
Comment # 516
hi sega im from germany
if i was hear the bad new you cut the game i dont wana buy now the parts you cut off was a the main reason to buy the game and i dont buy a half game.
now i rent it from my sister she have the orginal version with ih all stuff you did cut.
im very disappointed i have save my money for the game but now i can spend it for FF XIII
next time i buy the japan version or want you cut they to ?
Posted by mars on February 27th, 2010 at 4:04 am
Comment # 517
SEGA died in the era of 16bits… =(
I hate you SEGA ;(
Posted by Zappa on February 27th, 2010 at 4:24 am
Comment # 518
Was it really culture issues or was it really time constraint? I find the editing of the content strange seeing that Sega has had enough time to add extra DLC. I was going to get Yakuza 3 before God of War III, but now I’m just going to get God of War III. Screw you Sega, you all couldn’t even bring Kenzan over. I couldn’t care less if you all don’t bring Yakuza 4 any longer, because you all would probably just edit the shit out of it.
Posted by Stan on February 27th, 2010 at 4:37 am
Comment # 519
I think it’s very lame that any content period would be cut from this game. I really do hope Sega doesn’t go through with removing this content. Otherwise I don’t see myself purchasing this.
Posted by X-pert74 on February 27th, 2010 at 4:55 am
Comment # 520
If it were Nintendo or Treasure who were doing this, I would be equally as pissed with them. No company deserves special treatment over this kind of thing.
Posted by X-pert74 on February 27th, 2010 at 4:57 am
Comment # 521
X-pert74, the game’s pretty much gone gold. It’s out in two weeks, probably been shipped and sitting in stores already since it’s street dated.
Sega has to go the patch/dlc route to fix this. The statement in this blog seems to indicate that they have little intention of doing so. We have to keep things going until we get another response. Sad thing is there are more Yakuza fans out there who have no idea of the stunt that’s been pulled. Word has to get out to them of this before they drop money on an incomplete product.
Posted by king_ruckus on February 27th, 2010 at 5:03 am
Comment # 522
SEGA should consider to bring the missing content as DLC. This outrage about missing contnt is reaching further than just a few disappointed fans. SEGA’s reputation will be even more damaged than before for other bad decisions. I really ask myself who runs this company – mistakes over mistakes in Japan and also US/Europe. Just think of Sonic games with brawler gameplay and such – who comes up with ideas like that should be fired imediatltly!
Posted by dolbyd on February 27th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Comment # 523
No buy for me as well. I don’t care if it takes a bit longer to come out. Just have the full contents of the game in there. I can wait. Please leave the original content in tact.
Posted by Sam on February 27th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Comment # 524
Count another person here who’s not pre-ordering this. I got Yakuza 2 day one and was intending to get this full price, but it seems Sega has done me a favor and made one less game I need to buy in the next few months. Apart from Sega Racing, it seems like every game of theirs that’s coming out is receiving sub-par treatment.
Posted by Louise on February 27th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Comment # 525
Cancelling my preorder thanks SEGA.
Posted by Derek on February 27th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Comment # 526
#451
“2. The cover art ->
I have once told that I don’t care about the English version cover art. Well…
The English cover art is bad, in my opinion…
If it’s this consoling for SEGA / whoever design the cover art, my anticipated games such as Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, & God Of War 3 are also have average cover box-art.
The difference is, Yakuza 3 is niche compare to those 3 monster games.
So don’t expect anyone who would bought Yakuza 3 because of the “uninspiring” cover and rather choose Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and / or God Of War 3 because it’s more “famous”…”
I guess the original cover didn’t resonate as well =D
Is it just me or is it western boxarts are starting to suck, why change it completely to something fugly while you have a template from the origin to remodel?
FFXIII is granted to do well due to past experiences but I raged on XII, and don’t like the western localization on XIII so going to wait before I get it (I was given the impression SE is trying to hide the fact it is a JRPG). Personally I was only planning to get one game in March which was Yakuza 3 but now its either Bad Company 2 or God of War III.
Posted by Anon on February 27th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Comment # 527
It is disappointing that some of the best gameplay aspects have been cut out of the game but that isn’t going to make me cancel my pre-order or anything. I can understand why people are annoyed but there is no need for some of the bullshit abuse some people write on here, seriously grow up.
Sega, thank you for releasing Yakuza in Australia at the same time instead of delaying it by a few months like most companies do.
Posted by Amanda on February 27th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Comment # 528
For people in the bay area, come protest Yakuza 3 in person at the live Sega Yakuza 3 event at New People. If you want to make your voice heard in person to people involved in the localization of Yakuza this is your chance.
More info here:
http://www.newpeopleworld.com/films/films-3-2010/#tokyo_scope1
Posted by Curry Udon on February 27th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Comment # 529
Its funny that I havent heard a single good thing on here and yet sega has not said anything about fixing the situation….nice to know you want games other than Sonic so do well. Oh wait……
Posted by King on February 27th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Comment # 530
Man, I remember when everyone on this board was grateful, really grateful, that SEGA were going to localize it, then they were even more grateful when it was announced it was gonna be subbed with the original audio, and then when it was announced that all the Japanese DLC would be localized and would come on the disc, and then again when it was announced that the PAL regions releases would include a 31 track soundtrack disc and interactive informative guide to the characters, relationships and events of the series so far – now people are complaining about less than an hours worth of the least entertaining content that in no way affects the story been cut and saying they’re boycotting the game. This game may or may not financially break even, hopefully it’ll make a small profit for SEGA, but the main thing SEGA would surely expect to get from going out of their way for their consumers is some customer loyalty, so much for that with the immaturity of those that pretend to be big fans of the series and yet say they won’t buy it because of the cut content, a quiz 99.99% of them wouldn’t know any answers to and the hostess mini-game that before now everybody seemed to either not care about or dislike.
I’m not unreasonable, I realize it’s unfair that we don’t get 100% of the content, but considering sales in the West for the series have always been ridiculously low (based on some awful marketing) it’s more than fair to cut such minor content when they spend so much of their employees time, resources and funds on keeping the series alive over here whereas most publishers would’ve seen it as a poor venture and likely financial failure.
Posted by Copy+Paste from GameFAQs board on February 27th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Comment # 531
I too am not amused by Sega’s thoughtlessness. I’m switching my preorder from Yakuza 3 to Final Fantasy XIII unless they decide to put in Yakuza 3′s cut content as a dlc patch. Also guess what other game comes out on March 9th? Resident Evil 5 Gold.
So Seriously, unless this game is made to become uncensored, the only companies getting my cash in March are Square Enix and Capcom. I’m tired of being screwed over by this company that I’ve idiotically supported for over the past 15 years.
Posted by evilmajikman on February 27th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Comment # 532
Jason. if they took out the side missions of GTA4 I’d be extra happy. GTA series is only fun as a “sandbox” series, after all. In fact, I downloaded a 100% save for PC Vice City without ever playing the missions.
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 27th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Comment # 533
Still gonna pick it up….
Posted by Shin_Chuck on February 27th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Comment # 534
One there thing delay the release to put back the stuff was cut out
and there is a list just not hostess Clubs and Japanese Trivia
Trust me there lost more cut form the game
Posted by bicyclerepairman on February 27th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Comment # 535
@NinjaBinger
Well, I guess I am just really wasting time talking to you as from what u say, you are not a real gamer. You should not even be here in the 1st place. A real gamer want to play their game and get as close to 100% completion as possible and ur act of downloading save game really prove what kind of player are you. Ppl like you will not understand how a real gamer feels, you why dun u do everyone a favour and stop siding sega.
All of the ppl here complaining are the real gamer be it what reason. So you have no rights in telling them whether they are right as you are not a real gamer urself.
Posted by Jason on February 27th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Comment # 536
This is outragous it’s like buying a book, and finding out there are a couple chapters missing, because they didn’t translate them.
Posted by Tomas on February 27th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Comment # 537
@ #512: Don’t buy any English translations of Haruki Murakami books, then.
Posted by brock2097 on February 27th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Comment # 538
SEGAAAA why did you do that!!!!!??? thats ****** suicide! are you guys nuts up there?
I won,t buy yakuza 3 anymore unless you bring back the lost content….
please bring it back:( yakuza 3 was one of my most wanted games:(((
please, i beg you sega…translate the rest! do it for us! the FANS!
Posted by Megaman X on February 27th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Comment # 539
Why is my comment #502 still being moderated while other comments make it through? Is there something about my comment ringing true? I can simply take that comment elsewhere.
Posted by Stan on February 28th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Comment # 540
Sega, we all dunno what the hell you are doing screwing up a good game that are going to sell you. I guess you are going to blame on not bring yakuza 4 to the west becos of the sales result for yakuza 3. If you do not know how to market a product, you can hire me to market it for you. I guess anyone of the yakuza fan can do better then you. What a bad marketing skills you all have.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on February 28th, 2010 at 3:23 am
Comment # 541
why aren’t these games fully voiced in any territory? approximation of reality? GTA4 pushed boundaries, yakuza 3 is also but not as much. its nest gen, fully voiced games please. Why not release a read japenes game, ppl who love yakuza games may well have to learn the language from now on.
Posted by manny moo on February 28th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Comment # 542
This game was going to have trouble selling as it was, so giving the hardcore fanbase a chopped down version will do nothing but chop down your sales.
When are Sega going to learn.
Posted by sean on February 28th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Comment # 543
Real gamer? That’s some gay shit, man. You’re probably one of those fags who bought the Halo soda and watched that movie “Gamer” and shit.
So yeah, I’m not a gamer. I will play a video game or two, but I’m not a gamer; there’s nothing proud about playing video games. They’re expensive digital toys.
And besides, most of my games are on PC (and not that gayass Warcraft shit), not your pussy console. So “real gamer” my ass, go back and play your little Fischer-Price PS3 piece of shit, you probably wouldn’t even know where a RAM stick goes, LMAO.
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 28th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Comment # 544
Jason, if you buy into all that comercialized gamer stuff, like gamer shaving cream, gamer soda, Gamer the movie, then I’m really really sorry for you.
Because you’re nowhere near a real gamer like me. I’m a PC gamer. Debate over, I win. And I don’t play MMO, I play FPS, RTS, American RPG (because I’m no weeaboo).
But I don’t even know why I’m writing this, because arguing with you, a loser on the Internet, is the most pointless thing ever.
So I’m going to let you win this one. no I’m not a console gamer (I grew out of that when I was 4 and had a Super Nintendo) and yes, you are retarded. So I have conceded all the points you have made, and I hope you are happy, because I am not wasting any more time with your stupid pseudo-Japanese game. Plus I’m typing this on my new Dell XPS while I’m doing a girl doggy style, and she keeps moving and making it hard to type. So I have to end it here. Have fun with your toys!
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 28th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Comment # 545
Oh wow, both of my equally valid and true messages were accepted! NOW I CAN STOP READING THIS WEBSITE IN PEACE.
Until I show everybody on the LAN… :3
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 28th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Comment # 546
hahaha
someone who uses words like “weeabo” and internet lingo like “LOL”,
boasting they know where to stick their RAM
and claiming stuff like their doing a girl doggy style
is calling someone else a “loser on the Internet”
not taking sides in the argument and totally unrelated to this blog post…
just found it very funny!
Posted by Terry on February 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Comment # 547
You found it funny because you’re a whore, like your mother. Go fuck a dog.
Posted by NinjaBinger on February 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Comment # 548
Quote NinjaBinger
“NOW I CAN STOP READING THIS WEBSITE IN PEACE.”
roughly 45 minutes before comment #517
Posted by Terry on February 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Comment # 549
@NinjaBinger
Well I guess you are a real super nerd as only super nerd fight and scold ppl on the internet, “that is an action of a super nerd”. If you realise from the 1st post until now, I have not scold you but only reason with you. I am sry that i dun buy all the stuff that you talk about and i dun even know what is that, btw I dun play halo.
I only play game during my free time and only the game that i think is fun and there is not much of it. I dun even wan to waste my time scolding you becos you have already did it yourself. What you just scold me you can use it back to you as that is what u are.
Btw, you are a gamer, if not you will not be here is the 1st place, but you are a f*** up one.
Only a super nerd will think that there is a win or loss in a internet fight.
And one more thing, with a name like “ninjabinger” if you tell anyone that you are not a super nerd, nobody will believe it.
Posted by Jason on February 28th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Comment # 550
NinjaBinger, only a “loser on the Internet” will scold other ppl and fight with ppl on the internet. I guess that is what you are.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on February 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Comment # 551
SEGA, say something. Just give us a free DLC that features all the cut content.
Posted by dragonofdojima17 on February 28th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Comment # 552
Come on SEGA, stop acting like children hiding from pissed off parents. Just come on out, tell us you’ll give it to us as DLC, and everyone walks away happy. You get your money, we get our content….it’s a goddamn WIN WIN for Christ’s sake.
Posted by Ryan Erickson on February 28th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Comment # 553
Still no word from SEGA. I am very much afraid that this will result in poor sales for this title, eventually robbing everyone from future western releases of this franchise. And it’s a damn shame. Only because SEGA decides not to address the issue. Every day more pre-orders are cancelled and no-buy decisions are made…
Posted by Googer80 on February 28th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Comment # 554
Sega please respond? Atleast let us know where we stand? Can you give us the missing content as DLC? Please just respond, theres over 500 comments here, we need to know where we stand as Yakuza fans.
Posted by Tee Ryze on February 28th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Comment # 555
Oh SEGA what have you done ????? It makes me sad and angry… I pre-order this game one month ago with the Bonus content and everything…but why do u erased the HOSTESS-BAR do u hate the foreign Yakuza FANS ??? Many people don’t think about the Hostess-Bar as a Bordell ??? Everyone knows how a Bordell look like !!! I mean I understand that the Japanese History show get erased, because many people in other country don’t know the history, but I don’t understand why you KILL the HOSTESS-BAR, thats crazy, and I’m thinking about to cancel my order if u not decide to put everything that get censored, I mean its possible to make everyone HAPPY announce that SEGA will make a free DLC pack to redone the censore…. THEN I WOULD ORDER THIS AGAIN WITH HAPPY FACE…THANK YOU
Posted by BAGABONDO on February 28th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Comment # 556
Today’s Sunday, so I wouldn’t expect a response.
Tomorrow though, hopefully we’ll hear something.
In the meantime, people PLEASE KEEP COMMENTING! We need to make sure they understand this is not a “trivial” issue.
Posted by king_ruckus on February 28th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Comment # 557
I can’t believe it!!
I’ll buy it only if there’s a DLC with the Hostesses.
I’m really disappointed… I was really looking forward for this game…
Posted by GOLGO 13 on February 28th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Comment # 558
okay, i really don´t get it, why does sega need to cut this game? i mean, the maincharacter is japanese, the title of the game is something associated with japan, the story plays in japan, and there are a plenty of things in this game that are typical japanese. so the statement that japanese hostess-bars and japanese history answer-games might be too japanese for western people is nonsense!
and by cutting it a lot of things in the game become meaningless, like the presents for the girls. and the girls in those hostess-bars are a big highlight in the game though.
so why even bothering releasing a japanese game in the western world, if we only get our games with cutted content. i don´t like this, i was so happy that finally a good game from japan will be released and now this…
Posted by Shiki on February 28th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Comment # 559
I agree, just keep commenting, let your voice be heard.
Posted by Seven5 on February 28th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Comment # 560
Well, thats my pre-order cancelled, you folks add it as DLC a bit later and I’ll reconsider.
The Fact is it doesn’t even matter to me what it was that was cut, the simple fact that you removed content that you thought we “wouldn’t get” is insulting. If it truly was a matter of cutting content or not releasing the game within the time you had then you simply did not do your job.
Now get your act together and learn something from this debacle.
Posted by Seether on February 28th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Comment # 561
@NinjaBinger
Dude, just stop posting the more you do it the more you make yourself look like an idiot.
As for Sega it is wrong, but they really do not care so posting all these comments how you are going to cancel preorders wont do a thing. This is not Atlus, this is a company that goes full force promoting a franchise that has not been relevant since the 90′s cough….Sonic. So everyone should probably just let it go, and understand it is just business.
Posted by droNic on February 28th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Comment # 562
Localizing a niche game and then making cuts to try and appeal to a mainstream crowd, while not advertising it at all and releasing it during a period in which multiple other blockbusters are being released? It’s like you guys are trying to make this game fail.
I was looking forward to Yakuza 3, but it’s not like I’ll be starved for game releases this March, so I’ll probably take a pass on it. I might grab it out of the bargain bin sometime down the road, but I’m sure I can find some games that weren’t chopped up to play in the meantime.
Posted by Ryan on February 28th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Comment # 563
Now that Sony has somehow killed all the Fat PS3′s from working on PSN this might take some of the bad news light of Yakuza 3…. Lets hope both companies get it fixed…
Posted by chifanpoe on February 28th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Comment # 564
I’m still buying the game, but SEGA best release a DLC at a later date. It is ridiculous for us to pay full price for a game that has missing content. the hostess clubs are a big deal for a lot of people, i can care less about the quiz stuff. don’t give BS about how the hostess clubs don’t fit for the US market, it was in the 2 previous games. Just when you guys finally bring it over and finally have the original japanese audio, you go and cut stuff out. Come on SEGA!
Posted by Elly on February 28th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Comment # 565
THis explained nothing!!!! What do you think you explained?! You just said you cut content or wouldnt bring it for no reason. You didnt explain why you have to cut trivia or hostess bars from a game we expect to have them in? So you knew you were bringing over a game and needed only a program to translate the text and maybe a few people to check it and make sure it was translated right, but what did you do other than that, that took so much time, you couldnt leave in content already in the game?! You like making yourself look stupid sega. You must fail at all that you do… No Shenmue 3, no good Sonic games for 10+ years, No good port of Yakuza 3… The only good decision you made in 10+ years was not letting sega handle Sonic 4! Oh and Valkyria Chonicles 1. 2 should be on PS3, but that’s a different topic. No buy Sega. I dont have time for edited games. Why do you hate your fans…
Posted by Hakumen on March 1st, 2010 at 12:17 am
Comment # 566
WHAT A SHAMBLES. For gods sake SEGA get your act together, as a customer who has played the former Yakuza games plus owned EVERY system you have made I feel very let down by your decison to cut content.
I will cancel my pre-order today as I have had enough of your incompetence.
Posted by Tim on March 1st, 2010 at 12:17 am
Comment # 567
I would hope Sega respond soon and clear up the confusion on exactly what content is cut.
Also, let the fans know where you stand on future DLC.
Posted by Jeff on March 1st, 2010 at 12:33 am
Comment # 568
I cant understand sega at all. It seems they hate their western fan/consumer base…
They cant make a good decision to save their lives… They release it around Final Fantasy 13 time and End of Eternity with content cuts. How would this game have a chance?! Content cuts kill 3/4 of the sells. This isnt the early 90s. We had to deal with content being edited in Anime back in the day. We had to deal with games being edited back in the day. And now Sega is trying to bring that back in 2010? We pay $65 of our hard earned money for a game we decided was for us because it resonates with us enough to throw down our money on it and you decide that a year+ later that US and EUR cant handle universal situations in a game? How would drinking with beautiful women not make since outside Japan?! How would a game BASED on YAKUZA, that we are buying not make sense because it’s the 3rd one?! You cut major features and hrs out of our game and expect us to not care? Most people who buy Yakuza have seen Yakuza movies, watched anime and read manga and know what happens in a Yakuza environment and expect it to be in the game to some degree. Why would you cut it if not due to laziness?! YOu didnt dub the game so you didnt have to do much. You added english subs. That can be done with a program. So maybe you have less than 5 people triple check the subs for errors and in a month or two, call it a day? What happened to all the rumored $700K to go into dubbing it to english? Why of all things must you cut content already in the game? The Hostess bars didnt have a huge amount of talking to them. I rather have all the content for the game than the extra DLC your offering. A full game even if a year old is better for full price than a cut game. That doesnt get full price… Yr decision makers at your company are idiots that want you to fail. I’d do some restructuring quick… MAKE SHENMUE 3 already and make it RIGHT! Also, Make Valkyria Chronicles 2 on PS3! PSP? Really?
Posted by Hakumen on March 1st, 2010 at 12:59 am
Comment # 569
Just to say THANK YOU SEGA for bringing Yakuza 3 to Europe, because to me, IT’S BETTER THAN NOTHING. I don’t care about trivias and dating sims stuff.
People that won’t buy because of MINOR CUTS are just contributing to NEVER SEE YAKUZA 4 GO WEST!
Posted by Jasugun on March 1st, 2010 at 3:52 am
Comment # 570
So my preorder has been canceled since I’ve heard the news. If sega doesn’t respond soon with news of the content added back via DLC, then I am just going to wait for it to hit the bargain bins or just buy it used.
Regardless, the way sega handled this issue is absurd. No other publisher would purposefully cut content in this day and age!
I’d rather have no Yakuza 3 than a butchered version
Posted by kevin on March 1st, 2010 at 3:57 am
Comment # 571
Come on Sega, free DLC for the cut content. We know you can do it.
Posted by cosmos89 on March 1st, 2010 at 4:21 am
Comment # 572
Sega, what’s wrong with ya? We know you aren’t some shitty Microsoft! You can’t just cut a bunch of content and say “Sorry, bro, that’s all”
I WANT MY HOTTY CHICKS BACK! NOOOOOOOOOOW!
Posted by Yakuza-dono on March 1st, 2010 at 5:39 am
Comment # 573
Obviously you know a lot about this. Impressive!.
Posted by iPhone mac fan on March 1st, 2010 at 5:57 am
Comment # 574
That’s it SEGA. If you care for Yakuza 3 and your fans/consumers/gamers then fix this disaster.
Again, we don’t wan’t a butchered version. We like to experience Yakuza 3 in it’s full glory and awesomeness.
I hope you won’t disappoint us.
Posted by Dragoon on March 1st, 2010 at 6:28 am
Comment # 575
Thanks for bringing Yakuza 3 to the US! I hope we get part 4 and Kenzan someday. Will OutRun Online Arcade ever be released on the US PSN? That’d put me in “Heart Attack Mode”, haha<3
Posted by Brownie on March 1st, 2010 at 7:05 am
Comment # 576
Offering the excised content as $5 DLC would be win-win, or, more accurately, win-for-SEGA-kind-of-a-win-for-fans. SEGA gets a little more on top of the MSRP for a brand new copy of Yakuza 3, and us fans get the ‘whole’ game for only five bucks more.
Would I pay $64.99 for the full Yakuza 3 experience? Yes; yes, I would.
Posted by Dave on March 1st, 2010 at 7:35 am
Comment # 577
Come on SEGA, it’s 10am EST. I know you guys haven’t made it work yet probably, and all need your Mocha Frappacino’s….but ANNOUNCE something. Give us the content as DLC.
Posted by Ryan Erickson on March 1st, 2010 at 8:07 am
Comment # 578
SEGA for the love of GOD, announce it as DLC!!
You can’t seriously think it’s ok to leave everyone hanging right?? Right??
*crickets*
Damn.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 1st, 2010 at 8:08 am
Comment # 579
http://www.petitiononline.com/Y3NACC/petition.html
Here’s the petition again guys, we got a good number of people, please sign it.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 1st, 2010 at 8:08 am
Comment # 580
Is SEGA going to ever announce anything based on this or are they all set? It is sad to see that the game that the fans have been waiting for a full year has been cut here and there just because it “doesnt resonate with Western culture” or some crap like that. Is it really the reason or not enough time to translate the whole conversation?
I seriously think this should be included. If this is already been cut, at least make it a free DLC. I still dont like the notion of paid DLC as this game was treated with free DLCs in Japan, but if it is the only way we can get a complete version of this game, so be it. Just dont make it a tradition. This will suck for the Western fans of this game.
Posted by Luke on March 1st, 2010 at 8:19 am
Comment # 581
This silence does not RESONATE with me.
Posted by Jeff on March 1st, 2010 at 8:41 am
Comment # 582
My ps3 decided to kill herself this morning, when she learn that Sega was still silent on this Yakuza3 butchering issue.
Posted by Baltros on March 1st, 2010 at 9:03 am
Comment # 583
I heard that Sony shut off the PSN cause it didn’t RESONATE with the Western audiences….good goin SEGA, way to start a shit trend.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 1st, 2010 at 9:45 am
Comment # 584
#583 lol
Seriously Ruby GJ on not posting a picture for this blog post, I mean we don’t want ppl noticing this blog post,huh, seeing that every friggin blog post has a picture on it. Seriously Sega has been planning the death of this game, if you guys were real fans you wouldn’t allow this game to be released without major fixes in a)no cut content, actually give us more for waiting 2-3 for an outdated game b)releasing the game during the same time as GOW 3 and FF13. We want an official statement from Japan, but I guess that’ll never happen, the best we can get is a response from an employee who feels they’ll lose their job if they tell the truth.
Posted by whoever on March 1st, 2010 at 11:41 am
Comment # 585
There are some ppl who have no problem with the cut content, well there are some ppl who don’t have a problem paying more for less, well you’ll sadly get about 100 sales from these ppl and when they’re done with their game we’ll buy a USED COPY, yes that means NO MONEY FOR SEGA. If you CUT CONTENT THEN CUT PRICE
Posted by whoever on March 1st, 2010 at 11:45 am
Comment # 586
Whiners will be whiners. Give them the cut content, they will find something else to whine about. Don’t even bother with it SEGA. The only lesson to learn from this is that the western fans are a bunch of dumbasses willing to just discard the REST of the game and focus on the minimal content that is being cut. Forget Yakuza, hostess is what they want. So learn a lesson SEGA. Cut support for Yakuza in the west. Instead of localizing Ryu ga Gotoku 4, just start a new hostess line of games for the western market.
Posted by Whaaaaambulance on March 1st, 2010 at 11:55 am
Comment # 587
Don’t listen to the guy above me….it’s so easy for people to run around calling people whiners.
Guess they really have nothing better to do with their lives then shove their superiority around the internet. Nothing to see here guys.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 1st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Comment # 588
Delay the release and put the hostess clubs back in!! I also dont go with censorship either. When I play these Yakuza titles I want to feel like I’m back in Japan for the most of the people who have lived there or know somewhat about Japan will notice it especially if things are missing from Ryu ga gotoku 2 (Yakuza 2).
Does this mean the characters on the streets who work at the hostess clubs handing out the fliers or standing infront of the stores talking to girls trying to get them to work there are also missing or you have to know what the heck they are doing or where they come from? I allready wrote a letter in Japanese to Sega Japan complaining about the issues
Posted by Kensan on March 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Comment # 589
Also adding to my last post, the reason this game was so huge in Japan is because of for example the shops are all sponsers and REAL shops. Prior there were few real ones besides Matsuya (yellow and blue signed rice bowl shop) And for all the people who join in my opinion about the hostesses being cut. The models used for the individual hostesses are REAL people. Thats what made it so popular and interesting.
If your gonna cut key elements out why even bother leaving the talking in Japanese?
I liked Yakuza 2 ALOT and it was great. I guess I can play it over multiple times so I get a full experience. They are making Yakuza 4 now in Japan and MAYBE Sega will notice everyones dissatifaction with 3 before they decide to bring it here. One of the things that turned a good 100+ people I know off from Yakuza 1 here was its “localization of the language track for the west” 2 fixed it and it felt more real. 3 well…. I am not a corporate big wig and have no pull and who knows if they even listen to any of us anyways. With economic times being what they are if they have a core following I would think they would rather please the die hard fans then care more about pushing units to people who have no idea about Japanese street life and underworld culture.
Posted by Kensan on March 1st, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Comment # 590
IM NOT BUYING THIS WITH OUT THE Hostess Clubs NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONOONONONONONONONONONONONONOONONONONONONONONONONONOONONONONNNNOO
Posted by Bobby on March 1st, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Comment # 591
Way to cut you sales by 50+ percent. In the future just add English subs and menus to the Jap version and skip the U.S. localization all together. I for one will be waiting tell i can find this game used just so i know SEGA wont get my money.
Posted by Mikumari on March 1st, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Comment # 592
i don´t buy this censored version, that´s all.
Posted by Treasurefan on March 1st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Comment # 593
Yeah I also pre-ordered it at gamestop but im going to still get it an the import as well.The japan demo has the hostess club in it an i can almost max out the hearts from the ladies. I do hope they will listen an release DLC after the release but there probably laughing at these comments anyway.
Posted by k-dog on March 1st, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Comment # 594
*You guys didn’t post my first post, what’s up with that >:(
Wow Sega >:( Way to go, way to alienate your loyal base. Even though, we appreciate the effort of bringing it over to the US, we want Yakuza 3 is all its glory.
I was willing to forgive the HORRENDOUS box art for the game and pay the full $59.99 price (which by the way is a 100% increase from the Yakuza 2 game). Since I’m a Yakuza fan, I’ll still buy the game, eventually, however my enthusiasm has DIED (killjoys). I’m not in a rush to play the game and will wait for a price drop instead (buy off ebay, used bin, etc…) instead of paying full price for missing content and crappy box art.
The host/hostess missions were very enjoyable to me and I spend many hours in Yakuza 2 managing the hostess club mission. That side mission along with some others(which some are rumored to have been dropped too) was a nice break from all the action of the main storyline and helped establish an authentic feel (if its just a little bit) of Tokyo/Osaka nightlife. The side activities like the hostess club/host club, along w/ the main story line helped make the Yakuza series what it is.
You might not think that Americans care about these cuts (quiz game cut I could understand)that you think are minuscule, but I do and apparently from reading hundreds of comments, tons of other fans do.
Anyways, I’ve given up all hope that Yakuza 4 will ever see these shores, This is based on your incompetence to properly localize Yakuza 3 (minimal marketing, bad release timing, crappy box art, cut content), thus insuring dismal sales. Remember sega, its not the fans fault this time around >:( Better start brushing up on my japanese…
Posted by raye on March 1st, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Comment # 595
i’ll buy it from 2nd hand xD
Posted by Treasurefan on March 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Comment # 596
Sega boss in Japan really need to see this and have a talk with some local managers working at Seag America.
Posted by JennaN on March 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Comment # 597
Might buy it, then trade it in, haven’t been to GameStop in a while.
Posted by Stan on March 2nd, 2010 at 12:57 am
Comment # 598
Add english subtitles to future japanese releases if possible and just let us import.
Posted by Jeff on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:03 am
Comment # 599
Ok I’ve read your explanation but still I am not satisfied! I am one of the FEW hardcore SEGA fans since 1989, I have every SEGA console from SG1000 to Wondermega to Dreamcast hundrends of games, figures, books etc etc BUT I will not ACCEPT from a company I help and support like a blind soldier treating me like that!
I am buying this game not only for the unique fighting experience but also for the side stuff that you cut! There is no unique experience if all this are left out. I am speaking of course for me only even though many of my friends and hundrends of people on the net support what I say.
The easiest thing to do although is just put English subs in the Japanese version for God’s shake and we will do the rest… If you care Yakuza 4 to have any sales in the West and Europe. What you are doing now is ridiculous.
CONCLUSION: I AM NOT GOING TO BUY YAKUZA 3!
Posted by sybnios on March 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 am
Comment # 600
Sorry I don’t support censured content. Good luck next time.
Posted by Juan Pablo on March 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 am
Comment # 601
Give us a response already, this is ridiculous.
Posted by king_ruckus on March 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
Comment # 602
The hostess clubs were present in the Western version of yakuza 2, then why this choice? yakuza 3 is supposed being an evolution of the series, not a regression…
Posted by manaka-228 on March 2nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
Comment # 603
I don’t support censored content, so no buy from me,
Posted by Becko on March 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
Comment # 604
After many days of going back and forth between keeping or cancel my pre-order, I have decided to cancel my pre-order. I just can’t justify paying full price for an inferior version of a game. I will pick it up once price drops, or whenever SEGA decides to release the cut content as DLC, then I will buy the game immediately, regardless of price.
Posted by J.T. on March 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Comment # 605
The reason that attracted me to the Yakuza series was based on how it reflects Japanese culture and the general plot. Hostess bar is a really important part of this. Removing this is entirely a really really bad thing to do. Most of the people that are fans of the series (the ones that were surely going to buy the game and share it with their friends) are those who know the Yakuza series and love every single aspect of it. Cutting down the hostess is like selling a ferrari with 1 liter of gas.
Really stupid business decision from your sales department. I bet you anyone here would agree that they rather wait 1 more month and have the entire game instead of this …
Posted by Seb on March 2nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Comment # 606
Since there hasn’t been any response, I switched over my reserve yesterday, when the game was announced, I kept asking myself. FFXIII, or Y3, eventually I chose Y3, but seeing this content cut makes me realize I made an error. I corrected that error yesterday in Gamestop.
I’ve been waiting over a year for this game, and what happens? Some of my favorite features get chopped out and Sega expects everybody to pay it full price. Most Japanese games that come to US have barely anything changed other then the text. When TvC by Capcom was released in US, they added content in. Sega, you truly are the publishers from hell.
Posted by evilmajikman on March 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 am
Comment # 607
Sega is about time you release some official statement. What are you waitin for ? 1000 posts ? We are just 392 post away. All yakuza’s fans will flow in and make that happen !!
Posted by aless on March 2nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
Comment # 608
Just delay the release date and add the hostess club or make a DLC with it.
Sega,everybody is waiting for a statement about this…
Posted by GOLGO 13 on March 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Comment # 609
Having loved Yakuza & Yakuza 2 on the PS2 I was delighted when SEGA finally announced that Yakuza 3 was set for a release in Europe, but the news that there are going to cuts made to the game is one huge let down and is very disappointing indeed.
I agree with most of the posts on here that there is just no excuse for this total laziness by SEGA, and I think it’s a mistake SEGA will surely regret in the long run, I think it’s a must that we at least get this missing content as DLC.
Come on SEGA, don’t be fools! Surely all this posts by fans of the Yakuza series must mean something to you?
RJB
Posted by RJB on March 2nd, 2010 at 11:00 am
Comment # 610
hopefully SEGA will at least bother to give us a reply. I believe the amount of comments so far on this blog shows how unhappy we Yakuza 3 fans are.
Including a DLC wun be too hard would it?
Posted by Victor on March 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
Comment # 611
Without all the culture, Yakuza is just another generic brawler. The main reason that Yakuza stands out as something special is because of all the fascinating extras, culture, side-games, and clubs. Without those intact, the game loses everything that makes people want to buy it.
Sega, you’ve done so much to ruin this series, and this needs to stop.
Yakuza 1: Swearing in every other line of dialogue and advertising it as a ‘GTA-style game’.
Yakuza 2: Releasing it in English two years late, waaayyy after people stopped buying new PS2-era games.
Yakuza Kenzan: Not releasing it at all. English people probably don’t even know what a samurai is! Even if they did, they wouldn’t be interested in samurais, right?!
Yakuza 3: Cutting out all the interesting content, and releasing the game on the same day as FINAL FANTASY XIII.
You’ve screwed up the western releases of every single installment. You need to correct this.
Posted by Malorie on March 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Comment # 612
Malorie wrote:
“Without all the culture, Yakuza is just another generic brawler. The main reason that Yakuza stands out as something special is because of all the fascinating extras, culture, side-games, and clubs. Without those intact, the game loses everything that makes people want to buy it.”
Precisely.
I cringe to think what else SEGA has excised from Y3. Omitting *anything* from the Japanese version is pointless and a step back in quality.
Posted by Dave on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Comment # 613
Seriously SEGA, it’s freakin Tuesday. Are you waiting for the apocalypse to kick in before you care??
Posted by Kazahashi on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Comment # 614
https://sega.jp/contact/web/
Here you go guys Sega Japan contact email
Here is what it says in the boxes to turn in
What you are inquiring about: Choose the bottom one. Means (others)
Your name:
E-mail address:
Your comments:
I would send the link to this blog. Most Japanese business people have a general English reading ability and tell them to forward this page to the top! Click the yellow button and on the next page click the right yellow button. Dozo
Posted by Kensan on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Comment # 615
My updated list to the known removed content:
- Maintheme “Loser”
- Quiz Minigame
- 5 trophies (10% from the original version)
- Club (Datingsim) –> included in part I and II
- The Hostess Club (Kiryu as Manager) –> included in II
- Shogi (jap. chess) –> included in II
- Mahjong –> included in II
- Massage Minigame –> included in I and II
“Without all the culture, Yakuza is just another generic brawler. The main reason that Yakuza stands out as something special is because of all the fascinating extras, culture, side-games, and clubs. Without those intact, the game loses everything that makes people want to buy it.”
Exactly.
SEGA, you here our voices. Delay the release or anncounce a patch or DLC. It’s time for you to respond to this issue.
For the time being, here is the cut maintheme “Loser” from Eikichi Yazawa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMhtrhkggfE&feature=related
Great song, awesome artist and a very bad decision from SEGA to cut this and the other contents.
@Kensan: Thx for the contact information of SEGA Japan. ^^
Posted by Dragoon on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Comment # 616
Malorie wrote:
“Yakuza Kenzan: Not releasing it at all. English people probably don’t even know what a samurai is! Even if they did, they wouldn’t be interested in samurais, right?!”
Maybe some of you guys hear about the series “Way of the Samurai”. Also released on the PS3 and it’s already the THIRD installment.
So, can we still say people wouldn’t be interested in samurais? ^^
Posted by Dragoon on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Comment # 617
Join our facebook group and I will send another email to Sega Japan with the link and all the comments …
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=122143276187
Posted by Seb on March 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Comment # 618
Consored = Not buying it.
Posted by ThatOneGuy on March 2nd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Comment # 619
You guys…it’s March 2nd..the game is set to be released on the 9th.
No follow up respons has been given and, let’s face it, they are not gonna be able to do anything about it at this point.
Censored content or not, this is what we are gonna get
BUT I will add my 2 cents…I do enjoy these mini-games. Particularly due to the fact that you would get so much experience points from completing them successfully. Honestly, I am dissapointed with the decision to cut them out of the game and would be glad to wait however amount of time needed to have them added back into the game.
NA Yakuza fan’s are NOT demanding that the game be released by any specific day, we just want the game be released, period. I understand the complexities of translating everything in a way that non-Japanese speaking fan’s would understand but I know that the reason why I LOVE this game is because it is so immersed in the Japanese culture. The GTA games are heavily influenced by the American lifestyles yet it was released in Japan and did relatively well.
I won’t ask for anything else or make any kinds of demands as I am genuinely happy that the game is being released in the US altogether. But please, do know that I, as well as everyone else who has posted thus far is disappointed with this most recent decision.
and I’m DONE ;p
Posted by Denise on March 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Comment # 620
One thing I learned in Japan living and studying there is to a Japanese business, Corporation, etc Customer and in the game world fan satisfaction is a premium and I will say that I expect the same amount of effort made by their over-seas counter parts.
One example in Japan when you are not happy and you complain to a worker. You are recieved with “We are sorry” and all effort is made to help you or atleast hear you out.
You come back to the US and you notice the lack of interest in customers opionions and feedback. If there was ever any question on “what to cut” Sega America should of atleast done more field research into what we as a collective expect and want.
Dragoon your welcome for the email link. I hope this helps everyone. Instead of me moaning and groaning I decided to take our opinions to the parent company and let them know how the majority of us feel. I dont mind waiting awhile longer for them to fix this, I know we are pushing our luck with the release date coming up soon but perhaps they will consider a future download for the missing content or tell retail stores to not put the games on the floor.
Not listening to the public customer base or posting a comment on this and other internet blogs from potential customers IS a very NON-Japanese business practice! I lived in Japan and of course demand what many of you are also asking. An answer. If they want my $50+ I want to be a happy customer.
Posted by Kensan on March 2nd, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Comment # 621
It’s been almost a week now. So this is what “being up front with us” means? All I want is an official confirmation of all the things that have been cut and is there any plans to add them later. But I guess I just have to wait for the reviews to find these things out.
Posted by KKiryu on March 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Comment # 622
looks like Ryo Hazuki from shenmue turned into the gangster
Posted by fighter on March 2nd, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Comment # 623
Guys, guys guys…..I am just as upset about this as you, trust me! However as strange and unfair as this is, not much can be done about it. And I for one will still be buying this game on day one of its release. Yakuza is a series!! A single story, with an arc. I complete the first two, and loved them just as much as you guys. The only difference here it seems is that I NEED to find out what happens. I need to continue the Yakuza journey. Even if that means buying a copy with missing contents. Remember Yakuza doesn’t just offer a wonderfully detailed world loaded with side content. Its also a wonderfully detailed story…a story which I personally can not get enough of. No hostess clubs, less contents. It unfair, its sad, its frustrating as hell, and its just plain wrong. But a game like Yakuza as few a far between…and the extra contents ofcourse adds to all that, but the story is what really matters. I don’t support what SEGA has done, but when choosing between playing a version on the game that has slightley less stuff, but with the story still completely intact, or not playing the game atall…fellas…there really is no choice for me…im playing the damn game! I hate what you have done SEGA…but I am just so grateful you decided to release this fantastic game state side. (HOWEVER if you do not release YAKUZA 4 in NA in a year or so….I no longer will have you back….you will lose a very very loyal fan, as well as many others…you CAN NOT! bring us this far with this series, just to drop us at the very end.) So I don’t care if you have poor sales, you bring that game over here. And remember guys,if you don’t support this game, and make the purchase, well it will be on all your shoulders if they choose to not to bring the next game over. You will be making it pretty damn easy on them. THATS ALL.
SEGA! DSL THE MISSING CONTENTS…EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO PUSH THE DATE!!! AND DON’T EVEN THIS ABOUT NOT RELEASEING YAKUZA 4 OVER HERE. THAT WOULD BE……a big mistake…..
Hope someone shares my opinion…I don’t see how you couldn’t.
Charlie.
Posted by Charlie on March 2nd, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Comment # 624
I won’t ever forget your lack of response, here, and I won’t let anyone else forget either.
Even if the gimped version turns out an enjoyable experience, I won’t ever forget that it’s been edited because you felt things wouldn’t “resonate”.
You’re hoping that people will just let this die down, buy the game next week, and sing your praises. That’s complete BS.
Posted by king_ruckus on March 2nd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Comment # 625
Hopfully people here and elsewhere on the net will turn the heat up and not let it down so that opinions get noticed. I hope Sega Japan responds to one of us or atleast forwards our stance to their US branch. We may get more response out of Sega Japan then the US one especially if they are bombarded with emails and complaints. If I hear back I will post it in English for people. I went into Gamestop and mentioned what they did and people looked like they were ready to explode. Keep the comments comming and sign the online petition! If we want a possible future download fix we can’t let up and the more that little number climbs over 620 the more the company will notice the chatter or perhaps if we set a record it will also get a company rep to take notice.
Posted by Kensan on March 2nd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Comment # 626
I can say that at the mo I raged less since this blog post been posted, I’m still going to get this game nevertheless cuz quite frankly I don’t really have much of a choice since I can’t import it T_T.
For those waiting for a response maybe this will help – http://forums.sega.com/showpost.php?p=5630990&postcount=11
The way Sega dealt with this situation is pretty bad I admit like the excuse, but at least most of the games they localised from Japan contains its’ originlity (audio). Like the upcoming Resonance of Fate, the previous Valkyria Chronicles and this of course …. unlike the fail FFXIII.
Posted by Anomalous on March 2nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Comment # 627
Fail post, this is what I meant
“The way Sega dealt with this situation is pretty bad I admit like the excuse, but at least most of the games they localised from Japan contains its’ originality (audio). Like the upcoming Resonance of Fate, the previous Valkyria Chronicles and this of course (Yakuza 3) …. unlike FFXIII.”
I like playing JRPGs the way its’ meant to be played not like a remodeled version fit for westerners =p
Posted by Anomalous on March 2nd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Comment # 628
Problem is Sega would like to present Yakuza 3 to “western audiences” as a GTA crap, hoping that, maybe, some gangsta-wanabee chavs would try it. But for these ultra thick audiences, any ironic content, anything that strays away from the nobrain gangsta iconography is a repulsive. Dating hostesses / cabaret managing is not gangsta enough.
Poor Sega : Kazuma does all his quests without a car, he’s the ultimate good guy, helps everybody : you won’t sell it to the chav nation.
And censored content, you won’t sell it to us.
Posted by Baltros on March 2nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Comment # 629
^ This.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 2nd, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Comment # 630
OK this is enough, we have been waiting for a long time for you guys to do this.
I will do and join everything I can to change this so far I have:
1- signed the petition
2- joined the facebook group
3- email sega japan (using the form)
4- post here
Someone has to listen and do something, no company in the world can survive making business like this. You might as well close your NA operations and just ship the games from Japan with subtitles. Totally useless, even worst you just ruined it !!!
Posted by Matsumoto on March 2nd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Comment # 631
Only a week left now……please make a response Sega. Just tell us is there a possibility in the cut content becoming DLC (paid or unpaid) ???? Just a response after over 600 posts from fans would be nice….
Posted by Tee Ryze on March 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Comment # 632
tic tok, tic tok, time is running Sega. You have already greatly disappointed the NA and EU customers with the cuts, give us some info before it comes out. DLC no DLC, what is cut what is not?
Posted by chifanpoe on March 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Comment # 633
Over 600 comments on this blog, endless threads on the official forum and yet no further response. SEGA doesn’t care, they’re a business, I’d be surprised if they did. My second hand copy from ebay of the Japanese version arrived the other day, my preorder is cancelled for the western release, i’ll go play this unedited version. What little money you would have made on this has diminished so much, I begin to wonder if you’ll sell more than 500 copies of this. Your fault this time SEGA, we were grateful that you were bringing this to the west, but you shot yourself in the foot and slapped every fan in the face with this pointless decision!
Posted by Adam on March 3rd, 2010 at 5:37 am
Comment # 634
Two years later, Sega is announcing the English version of Yakuza 4:
————
Hello Everyone.
While it’s already been rumored in a couple places, we wanted to confirm that there is some content in the Japanese version of Yakuza 3 that didn’t make it over to upcoming Western version.
First of all, Kazuma Kiryu will be the only playable character. We had to remove other 3 characters due to time constraints and our thoughts of having 4 playable characters would not go well with western players.
Also, again due to time constraints and cultural differencies we had to remove a few of the content without affecting the gameplay, such as all mini-games including the dating and cabaret club games along with Ufo-catcher, baseball and golfing.
We also had to make some modifications to the game’s genre. Based on the successes of games such as Modern Warfare in the west we, Sega of America and Europe decided to change the games genre to a FPS to reach a larger audience.
Finally, in order to make the game more appealing to the younger audicences (and again, because of the time constraints) we had to remove the fighting scenes from the game altogether. Kazuma Kiryu will not fight at all but again, this is simply a minor cut from the overall gameplay.
We also would like to remind you that due to all of these extra translation and localization efforts, we had to raise the price tag of the Yakuza 4 to 100$. You lost some of the content but at least you got the game in English! Lucky you!
Last but the not least, again due to time constraints and to make the game more appealable to the west, we decided to sell the game without a cover or a manual. Game disc will be simply put on a paper bag.
I’m sure you are all looking forward to play this amazing game!
Until then!
Posted by Rad on March 3rd, 2010 at 6:57 am
Comment # 635
Maybe its worth also getting PS3 IGN to read this blog as well?
Posted by Kensan on March 3rd, 2010 at 7:16 am
Comment # 636
SEGA whats up ? Why do you not answer to you’re FANS ? I mean tell us if a DLC will come out or not….don’t let the comments unanswered that is rude … Everyone was looking for the Game but now……
So please answer ….
Posted by Bagabondo on March 3rd, 2010 at 7:23 am
Comment # 637
No hostesses, no buying!
greetz from germany
Posted by Sammy Sanchez on March 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Comment # 638
I’ll be purchasing FF XIII instead.
Posted by Rigoberto Bougnerino on March 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 am
Comment # 639
I’ve posted this on your forums and thought that I should put this here if you haven’t noticed it which can be found here:
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=318498
“Anyway, I’m not sure if I really wanna get this game. I sure as hell loved the first 2 and I do wanna see what happens next . Thing is, the cuts made me rethink my purchase, unfortunately. I do wanna play this game, I really do, but cutting content from a game no matter what makes me not want to buy it, this also involves other forms of media as well.
I want to buy it to support Yakuza as a game that can reach out to much bigger audience, along with hope for Yakuza 4 in the West, and support Sega Japan and Nagoshi for the hard work, but NOT Sega USA for cutting out parts because “the audience won’t understand”. Either they’re lazy or actually being honest about budgets. Even if they did have the budget to do it and had the time, I would be so happy if they delayed it. Not to mention that FFXIII comes out the same day.”
(To me, the paragraph that follows is I think you should do)
“Remember what happened to LittleBigPlanet before it was released? They delayed it ’cause of a song and put up a patch for the, then, new release date. Sure, it’s swapping out music and different to translating, but it’ll at least get the job done before a title gets released.
I just hope we get the 100% game sometime as a patch later on after the game is released to put back what’s cut (even though I’m sure it’s still on the disc, but just blocked and not “fully taken out”), or at least get a delay”
I tried to be civilized as best as possible and hopefully sometime from you guys will come up soon.
Thanks for hearing me out
–MeanBob
Posted by MeanBob on March 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 am
Comment # 640
Here is a link with possible cuts??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza_3
Posted by CHiPsFan7Mary4 on March 3rd, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Comment # 641
One of your users named Yakuzakilla3 on your Yakuza forums has asked me to this up for him. His thread can be found here:
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?p=5634483&posted=1#post5634483
This is what he has to say:
“http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/…49#post6909349
I made this thread awhile ago about the entire Yakuza 3 related cuts, please take some time to read these comments (over 250) as well as the comments listed in this Forum. This is posted at a high traffic video game buying website so everything here has opinions from the Majority of gamers not just the Sega/yakuza fans. I also made a vote depicting how many people wanted the cuts or not. It is a fair vote that is at about 200 and the results are as followed.
View Poll Results: Should Sega restore the content removed from the US Version (Hostess Bars, ect.)?
Yes, Please restore the missing Content so it is similar to the Japanese Version. 172 votes 87.76%
No, I like that you have removed content that I wouldn’t have understood. 24 votes 12.24%
This show that from the “General” Gaming community over 85% of gamers would have and still want the content that you cut from the game. Most gamers are simply just upset how you have handled the situation and need a apology for not telling them. They also need a explanation as to why specifically you neglected to bring this content, as I see this as laziness on your part. I have NEVER heard of a game not completely translated because of lack of time. Most developers push the game date back to avoid catastrophic release dates (Note that God of War 3 and Final Fantasy 13 2 triple A titles come out around Yakuza 3 which is a Niche title).
If you cannot offer the content back give these gamers a reason to buy Yakuza 3 instead of taking one away. If you offer Yakuza 4 to USA/Europe regions gamers will roll with the punches as to say and you can somewhat keep your reputation as a solid developer/publisher. ”
Just thought I’d throw this in for all of us. Sorry for double posting, but I still want to keep spreading the word
Posted by MeanBob on March 3rd, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Comment # 642
I may end up contacting particular investment groups who invest in SEGA and see if at a meeting this ignoring of fans displeasure can be addressed to the board.
Posted by Kensan on March 3rd, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Comment # 643
I hate the DLC, that content should come on the disc, so do not buy it
Posted by Treasurefan on March 3rd, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Comment # 644
I think someone should tell IGN to take this pic down SINCE SEGA took this whole content out!
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14263681/yakuza-3/images/yakuza-3-20090126051545853.html
Posted by Kensan on March 3rd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Comment # 645
I bought Yakuza and Yakuza 2 on day one. I won’t buy Yakuza 3. Way to alienate the only people who were actually going to buy your game anyways Sega.
Posted by Adam on March 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Comment # 646
Kensan, that’s sad but true. That picture doesn’t represent the final US/UK product:-/.
Posted by king_ruckus on March 3rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Comment # 647
Disappointing. Sega, you have a built in fan base in the Yakuza series. Not very wise to take out what many find a pleasant (and quite funny) diversion in the game.
How arrogant to assume what the player would consider valuable, necessary, etc. content.
Well, players vote with their feet so to speak. I will cancel my pre-order. Perhaps I will revisit Yakuza 3 if and when Sega decides to sell a complete product, not what some bean counter considers “necessary”.
Posted by CiaoBella on March 3rd, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Comment # 648
Come on SEGA, we’re at nearly 650 posts, do you plan on alienating your fans that KEEP begging you??
Posted by Kazahashi on March 3rd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Comment # 649
This is dumb. We better get this as free DLC in the very near future.
Posted by Joe on March 3rd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Comment # 650
There is not a chance I will be purchasing this game. I originally planned to, especially after enjoying the demo so much, but after learning that all this content was removed, you will not be receiving my support SEGA. Way to disappoint. Unless you add this as DLC later, then I will most certainly not support this title with my purchase.
Posted by Jake on March 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Comment # 651
If an announcement doesn’t get put up in 1 hour, I’m going to beat the shit out of myself. Then I’m gonna force myself to watch 10 hours off Barney. Please Sega don’t let me do that to myself.
Posted by Dean on March 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Comment # 652
you know…I was really looking forward to the upgrade in hostess models and cabaret customization features when I first heard about them during the development process. One in particular I was truly looking forward to was the ts japanese model Tsubaki Ayana which I covered in one of my blog posts many, many moons ago (say what you will about it, I was very excited about hearing it and looking forward to it). It’s sorely disappointing not to be able to experience the game as it was meant to be, and even though I’ll probably still get the game, I’ll also be importing a copy unless it’s announced that the cuts will be added back into the game (I really truly absolutely hope so). One of the main appeals of the Yakuza games for me was to experience what I could not at home. Whether that be good or bad, I wanted it all (and on the top of that list were the hostess bars, running my own bar and such actually lol. Spent much in game money and time on that. Easily the most enjoyable sidequests in the game by far). I rented Yakuza 1, loved it and bought Yakuza2 day one. When Ryu ga Gotoku 3 was announced, I was down with any news trickling in that I could find, and for my blog, one of my posts focused solely on these hostess bars grabbing models from japanese fashion magazine Koakuma Ageha, with Tsubaki Ayana as the main focus. Also, JAV actresses in Y2 and Race Queens in Kenzan.
Yo Sega, if you’re really listening: Please don’t take a game clearly meant to be rated M/18/D/etc that displays gritty violence between yakuza groups and other mafias that are clearly inspired by aspects of the real world source material, and take away some of the best parts of that world. For me, the Yakuza games are meant to be experienced as a wholly original as possible (including japanese speech and such). If you take away that whole experience, what you get is equal to the bland mess of games that are similar in many ways, only executed slightly differently. The whole experience is what makes these games unique because there really are no other games like it in the west. And that is what made me a fan in the first place. You’ve heard it as a slap in the face, a kick in the balls, an insult, etc…..the right thing to do would be to listen and to support the fans.
Posted by suneo on March 3rd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Comment # 653
My wish is that lucky comment #650 will be the start of something big at Sega to get all the cut content back in lol.
Posted by suneo on March 3rd, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Comment # 654
Unless DLC is announced and includes the cut content, I’ll be saving my money. I spent $100 on the AVP Hunter Edition and the facehugger’s tail was broken in half. Still no response from SEGA about when we can expect our replacements…then they go and cut a good portion of content from Yakuza 3 and expect me to pay full price?
Posted by Dustin on March 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Comment # 655
There’s lots of other titles out this March where you actually get the full game. Why should I spend money on a gimped version of a year old game.
Posted by Richard on March 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Comment # 656
If you don’t buy this game, they will never release Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan!! Or Yakuza 4!! You guys, its wrong but what choice do we have…the story is there, so play the damn game. If you buy it and they make there money back, they will forsure be in a better position to add the DLC to the PSN. If you don’t buy this…if you don’t…then they won’t. Its simple….sad, and FUCKED UP!! But BUY THE FUCKING GAME FELLAS.
Posted by Charlie on March 3rd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Comment # 657
I am waiting for the early reviews because it seems we will not be getting any more details regarding the cuts from SEGA. Think about it, we cannot get this information from the publisher but have to wait for reviews and other users to let everyone know what is cut from the game and what is not. What is this, the 90s again???
The really sad part is, I had to choose between pre-ordering either Yakuza 3 or Final Fantasy XIII. As I do not know the extent of the cuts from Yakuza, I decided to go with the latter… this Yakuza title will undoubtedly hit the bargain bin anyways which is in a way, a damn shame… and mainly due to SEGA shooting itself in the foot.
Posted by Tequilazen on March 4th, 2010 at 1:53 am
Comment # 658
I fail to see why I should be concerned about Yakuza 4 when they won’t even release Yakuza 3.
No, this “What’s-left-of-Yakuza-3-after-we-cut-the-things-you’re-too-stupid-to-understand” edition does not count.
I’d rather not have Yakuza 4 as they will only butcher that as well.
Posted by Velsper on March 4th, 2010 at 2:20 am
Comment # 659
I’m a proud owner of both Yakuza 1 and 2. I even bought it’s spiritual predecessors, Shenmue 1 and 2 as well as many other SEGA games and consoles. I was one of those who tried to spread the word about Yakuza 3 after it came out in Japan, not only increase it’s chances of being localized, but also to help get people interested in buying it if were to be localized.
I’ve been following the news and comments these last few days and I have to say I’m horribly disappointed. I know I’d still enjoy the game even in it’s current state, but this isn’t the game I wanted to play. I wanted it to be the same game as was released in Japan with all the same content. From what I can see even Mahjong has been removed. I cannot in good conscience support a localization like this, and buying it would send you the message that in some way I accept these cuts. I do not and will not. As long as the content remains missing I am sorry to say that I will not be buying the game.
Posted by mirumu on March 4th, 2010 at 3:01 am
Comment # 660
This is the greatest fuck up in the Sega’s history. After the 32X of course.
Posted by Psycho on March 4th, 2010 at 4:35 am
Comment # 661
I also don’t care about Kenzan or Yakuza 4 anymore.
If people start to reward them for cutting contents by buying a incomplete product for FULL price. Guess what? They will do it again because their operation “rip off the consumers with Yakuza 3″ was a success.
Further more, look how SEGA treated their fans. Until today NO SINGLE respond in regard to the cut material.
We have to stop that ridiculous release politic right here and right now. Folks, show them clearly your RED CARDS. After words take action. NO BUY for me.
Posted by Dragoon on March 4th, 2010 at 4:53 am
Comment # 662
Uhh, guys, the hostesses are in the game, you can still interact with them, take them on dates, out to kareoke, they were not cut from the game, only the bars.
Posted by Carlos on March 4th, 2010 at 6:36 am
Comment # 663
^ People don’t care…..cut content is cut content, this is 1995 anymore. There is NO reason for games to get butchered. Period.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 4th, 2010 at 6:42 am
Comment # 664
I was just about to buy this on Amazon, but luckily a link on that site showed me to this page, I’m not going to buy it anymore, Sega you suck a$$ so bad, it’s a shame really, no wonder SEGA is failing so bad now and back then (Dreamcast), meh, really pissed off now because I really liked the JP Demo of this.
Posted by Balrog on March 4th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Comment # 665
Ok. What the hell?! At first I thought there was a problem with using the original Japanese cover art because of the cigarette, but now you’re using it as part of your ad campaign for the San Francisco event? Looks like I was wrong.
Keep dropping the ball Sega. At this rate I’ll probably just give up on anything related to Sega.
Posted by karga on March 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Comment # 666
Yes but the interaction at the bars is WHAT most Japanese/Japanese businessmen go to the Hostess bars for, same with Japanese women who go to the host bars. To have someone to “interact with” They have explained even on the travel channel what goes on and even had a special showing what to expect someone to drink with chat pour drinks,etc. This should not be somthing hard to understand for non-Japanese since it has been covered by many different sources. I am also upset at the fact they cut the content without doing fieldwork with potential consumers (us and others who were going to purchase the title) to see what “WE” think and if We can handle a more realistic approach to Japanese nightlife.
Posted by Kensan on March 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Comment # 667
They butched the clubs how about smoking in the game? Its not on the box art ? I am still waiting along with many others for the ENTIRE cut list!
Posted by Kensan on March 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Comment # 668
Apparently the word communicate doesn’t resonate with anyone at SEGA.
And if Ruby is as good at forwarding messages as he is at being up front about the cuts and delivering the comments he promised two days ago then I suspect he doesn’t forward them at all.
Posted by Velsper on March 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Comment # 669
HEY SEGA!…I want your attention…and let me made it LOUD AND CLEAR. You are making a BIG mistake guys. You have obviously accumalated some fans with this series and you give us all a taste of what we all love and then you take it away from us right before we almost get what weve been waiting for. If this is the way you treat your fans…its not a real good business decision on your part as you can see HOW EVERYONE is saying they wont buy the game. Im sure you knew cutting all of that out would affect your fans/paying customers. Lack of caring on your part is going to cost you alot of fans…a lot of business…and most of all respect.
Posted by Holly on March 4th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Comment # 670
I wont cancel my Pre-Order, since i´m still excited about the Game, but should they do the same thing to Yakuza 4 which is almost released in Japan, i won´t buy that game, even if they just leave out something boring like “history quiz”
Hostess Club cut out – Very bad move, since i always wanted to know how they look/work
Mahjong cut out – Also disapointing since i wanted to learn to play that anyway
still paying 63€ for an incomplete game – That´s only happening once and only because i know that there will be enough people who will buy my game after i´m finished and bored of it.
I´m one of the Customers who loves Brutal battles AND Japanese Culture, if i only want one of these things i would just buy any other game……
Anyway, nevertheless thx for atleast trying to bring the game to the west
Posted by Samael on March 4th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Comment # 671
I posted this in the most recent post but I know alot of people are still reading the comments over here.
“I’ve tried to put my thoughts in perspective and here’s why I feel Sega is making a mistake ignoring fans a week before the release of a big game.
http://orangeloungeradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=207:what-happened-to-yakuza-3&catid=4:news&Itemid=33
I love you guys and I’ll still buy this game but I need you to understand that I’m not happy about the cut content and really want you to add it back in via DLC or a patch.”
Posted by Deekman on March 4th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Comment # 672
I also wonder if this “Silence” we are getting from SEGA itself is because they could be possibly deciding what to do? If this has spun out of control?
I noticed other big sites like IGN are keeping a low key on commenting other than IGN saying “some” Yakuza fans are flying off the deep end.
Posted by Kensan on March 4th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Comment # 673
Someone also said that writing to SEGA Japan in English wont help,
Kedo I wrote them with the link to this blog stating (kono blog wo yondekudasai) Please read this blog, and
YAKUZA Fan ha hontou ni okotta zo! ( Fans of Yakuza are very upset!) So even if We dont get a response, SEGA USA may of allready of heard from them and may be investigating into it. Its not like just one of us is complaining but a signifigant amout are. Not a one man show here.
Posted by Kensan on March 4th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Comment # 674
Ruby tell SEGA this is pathetic. Are they so blind they can’t see how pissed the fans are? Show some respect for others. Give us that cut content back. WE won’t shut up until its done.
Posted by dragonofdojima17 on March 4th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Comment # 675
100% with Dragonofdojima17 on comment #674! Listen to the Fans!! I am willing to wait abit more on a delayed release for the content and would still be more than happy to hand SEGA my money.
Posted by Kensan on March 4th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Comment # 676
Also if SEGA hasnt noticed after looking through the blogs, and the petition its NOT just an American fan uproar, people from Canada, the European Union. So its a world-wide uproar over it. Word of mouth is the best form of advertising and PR, and also can be damaging to a business if the people being sold to are NOT pleased.
People at the local gamestop know of it and are NOT happy, today people at Walmart and Best Buy were also talking about it SO, why is it taking so long to get a response back? Maybe SEGA feels its just one title take a hit and make it back with others, BUT this dissatisfaction with SEGA’S handling of YAKUZA 3 could spill over to their other titles and products.
Posted by Kensan on March 4th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Comment # 677
Had a conversation with a couple of Gamestop employees here in Canada how they are upset over the cuts and had to explain it to a client who was on the fence about buying the game and had heard there was “stuff missing”.
As the employees explained it to him the customer basically responded with “that’s stupid I’m not paying full price. Call me when it’s used” and walked out.
Posted by Deekman on March 4th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Comment # 678
Sega fails me yet again with Valkyria Chronicles 2 for PSP only and now this. I’m still going to buy the game, however, to show my support to the series and hoping sega adds the content back through downloads. However, I’m truly disappointed. Sega keeps gimping their best franchises and puts all their money towards garbage titles like the new sonics and shit. This is getting ridiculous.
Posted by Seattle206 on March 4th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Comment # 679
IF YOU PROMISED TO RELEASE “RYU GA GOTOKU KENZAN” AND “YAKUZA 4″ IN NORTH AMERICA…i THINK MOST OF US COULD LOOK PAST THIS, AND IM SURE YOU WOULD GAIN ALOT OF SALES BACK, AND SOMEWHAT RECOVER FROM THIS TOUGH BLOW YOU HAVE DEALT YOURSELF. GAMES MUST HAVE 100% OF THE CONTENTS INCLUDED THOUGH. DON’T BE STUPID SEGA! MAKES A MOVE GODDAMMIT! BUT MAKE THE RIGHT MOVIE.
Posted by Holly on March 4th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Comment # 680
680 comments after ……. guess what …… NO NEWS !!!
Our only hope if for SEGA Japan to hear our complaints and honor their Customers.
BECAUSE SEGA NA OBVIOUSLY DID NOT DO IT !!!
Posted by Matsumoto on March 4th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Comment # 681
Oh and one more thing, the way this should had happen is a win-win situation (very asian BTW) you (SEGA) release a game that many people love, we buy the game, we share it with friends, more people buys it and the circle goes on. We win (we have the game we love) you win (make$$$) and then you release YAKUZA 4. Now thanks to this stupid mistake you are putting your most loyal YAKUZA fans in a LOOSE -LOOSE situation, We buy the game = you think it’s OK to cut content, maybe you will release YAKUZA 4 and this time you will cut something else. option 2: We don’t buy the game = you blame us and YAKUZA 4 never comes to North America or Europe. EITHER WAY WE LOOSE AND YOU TOO. How stupid is that?
Posted by Matsumoto on March 4th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Comment # 682
SEGA, seriously, you’re really hurting yourself. We won’t stop asking for the DLC, or patch. Fuckin PERIOD.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 4th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Comment # 683
Thank you for officially commenting on Yakuza’s changes, but I will echo the disappointment of so many here, and am hesitant to buy.
I’ve lived in Japan for a year, am a huge devotee of Yakuza 1 & 2, and was hoping to relive my noirish forays into Kamurocho, but it seems like crickets from you where missing content (host clubs, games, etc.) DLC is involved.
This is just downright sad, and a disservice to so many fans! I’d sold my XBox 360 yesterday to make room for a PS3. I’ve blogged about Yakuza 2 and have been following the release of Yakuza 3 for well over a year now. I’ve registered for updates on the game from Sega, but ostensibly all I’ve ever received are updates on “Sonic.”
Posted by stinkyy on March 5th, 2010 at 6:34 am
Comment # 684
Have anyone called the Service Hotline from SEGA ???? I tryed to call there but no answering waiting line…and pro minute 1,50 € thats insane !!! But have anyone called there and ask them Directly why they cut the content and what they will do ? here is the link : http://www.sega.de/support/
Posted by Bagabondo on March 5th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Comment # 685
I wonder if the ‘cut’ content is actually still on the disc, but just locked away and with the japanese text still in place? This would probably be an easier approach from a programming point of view than literally tearing out huge chunks of code… and would also mean that it would be easier for Sega to re-instate via a DLC translation/unlockpatch.
Whatever the case, I’m still buying the game as I think it looks excellent and I want my purchase to contribute to the sales figures that will ultimately dictate whether or not Yakuza 4 is released worldwide.
The only way Sega can save any face from this debacle is to confirm that they will be releasing the missing content as a FREE DLC (and maybe even releasing the patch on a disc that people who don’t have internet connected PS3′s can send off for in the mail)
Sega’s handling of Yakuza 3 so far has been shameful and insulting to both the fans and the japanese creators/designers who worked hard on the game only to see it edited and chopped apart because the western arm of the company couldn’t be bothered to allocate a decent amount of time and money to localise the game. That an iconic company like Sega has sunk this low is disgraceful.
I’d like to know what Toshihiro Nagoshi thinks about all this!
Posted by Flint on March 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Comment # 686
I have a friend who works for SEGA Japan maybe I should have him get ahold of Toshihiro Nagoshi san to let him know how much we enjoy his work and let him know how WE feel
Posted by Kensan on March 5th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Comment # 687
1UP.com apparently has an article about the ongoings of how Yakuza 3 is being handled now
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9022319
Posted by MeanBob on March 5th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Comment # 688
“1UP.com apparently has an article about the ongoings of how Yakuza 3 is being handled now
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9022319”
Lol subs greater than dubs …. dubs are just f**king annoying becuz they fail completely (perhaps since trying to express emotions from a different culture thus fail)
and for example in that case a Japanese yakuza speaking English in a American accent doesn’t do justuice and atmosphere is just ……… wrong.
Posted by anomalous on March 5th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Comment # 689
Totally. When a Japanese Yakuza ends up with a voice like a street thug here it makes me pay more attention to that than the story.
Posted by Kensan on March 5th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Comment # 690
Yakuza is a precious game to me and everyone else. It’s not a generic crap which you can cut and remove contents from. I demand that the cut content to be put back as DLC and give us an apologize.
Posted by bob162 on March 5th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Comment # 691
We need a miracle !
Posted by cosmos89 on March 5th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Comment # 692
And it’s not over yet. Look what SEGA have done with one of the biggest Yakuza fan, @dragonof dojima17.
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/03/03/community-member-interview-dragonofdojima17/
With their butchery of Yakzua 3 they kick him coldly in his crotch. Like the other fans of this great series.
Until today (almost to 700 posts here) NO answer from them. It’s even worst, they continue to distract the potential buyers from the cut contents like this:
“(To confirm as well, the Hostesses are in the game, and you can still go on dates, Karaoke, etc, with them.)”
You can read this in the last section after the interview with DoD.
This is truly beyond rediculous.
Posted by Dragoon on March 5th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Comment # 693
Did you guys see? There is already fan content on YouTube reacting to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=SXaKqRUUG-g&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fdragonofdojima17 (not a Rickroll, I swear)
I really like this Dragon guy!!! Very creative.
Posted by stinkyy on March 5th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Comment # 694
Fellas, buy the game, support the release…you have a much better chance of them DLCing the contents if you get on board and help them make money…im sure they did not want to cut anything, but obviously they were put between and rock and hard place….due to some kind of time constraints and they had no choice….(yes they had and year…but obviously they didn’t decide to release it till late)….they wanted there FANS to play the game, and thought that the story of the game which is 100% unsensored would still matter. Its simple…you guys can complain all you want, but if you don’t buy the game you will get nothing…and its to great of a game, to great of a series for you to fuck it up like that. Not just for you but for all of us who actually do want to play this great game, and every game after this. It actually is quite rare that a series like this comes along….and you all seem to have devoted hour and hours completing the first two games, (which aren’t exactly short)….so how could you just say “no” like this…..if you are true fans of Yakuza…complain and complain….after all “Its the squeaky wheel that gets the grease”…but ultimatly, be smart, and buy this game. Because not only will you be helping seal the deal on Yakuza 4 and Kenzan getting over here….but you will also be putting SEGA in a much better position to do something like the DLCs. And im sure that after this 700 post mammoth, SEGA will never butcher a game again. You’ve said you piece, you’ve made known how you feel, lesson learned….ok…lesson learned guys….support this game, please….because you will “NEVER” get another chance “EVER” again…to play it, or anything else in the wonderful series. And that just doesn’t sit very will with me.
Charlie.
Posted by Charlie Robson on March 6th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Comment # 695
I seriously hope Sega reconsider and include the cut content. Excuses like “doesn’t resonate with Western audiences” are patronising and quite frankly insulting. It’s a fantastic game, but content being removed is nothing but a step backwards. Open your eyes Sega, put in the extra bit of effort and you’ll stop alienating your Western audiences.
Posted by GageClawson on March 6th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Comment # 696
^ I think nearly everybody knew about that from the interview blog post a few days ago =p
Posted by anon on March 6th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Comment # 697
I’m not a fan of receiving less content than someone else when a game gets localized, but I think a lot of people are blowing this issue WAY out of proportion. Why do so many people care about the hostess bar? Ooh… A dating sim… I guess it’s important if you can’t actually get a real date, but beyond that, who cares?! It isn’t like it has an impact on ANYTHING.
Posted by ducky on March 6th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Comment # 698
Sega has not said anything that would indicate that they’d bring over Kenzan, Y4 or missing content as a DLC, if the sales of this version were satisfactory. I have no faith in this company unless they say it loud and clear without any smokescreens. They don’t even have balls to say what exactly is cut, so we really have to wait for reviews and user comments to find out.
Oh, and I’m still buying this game, but in a way that makes Sega the least possible amount of money (bargain bin or used copy 6-10 months from now). Unless they promise to add the missing content as a free DLC (in both US and EU), then I’d surf to my nearest web store and place my order at full price.
Posted by KKiryu on March 6th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Comment # 699
On Rockstars delay of “Red Dead Redemption”
“We at Rockstar have always prided ourselves on the uncompromising quality of our games – and will always opt to take a bit longer to polish and fine-tune a game to be as perfect as possible when we think it necessary” a company representative says. “With Red Dead Redemption, we felt that these extra few weeks will make a big difference in helping us deliver you an experience beyond your expectations.”
Enough said SEGA….still buying the game…as should all of you…but this is really what I, and everyone else im sure, would like to see from your company in the future. Thanks for releasing it though. Make sure you DLC the missing pieces please.
-Charlie
Posted by Charlie Robson on March 7th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Comment # 700
The releasing date getting closer. We really need some reply!!
Posted by aless on March 7th, 2010 at 2:05 am
Comment # 701
Look man. Shogi isn’t something that “resonates with the Western audience” here, but I’m glad you kept it in Yakuza 2. I would pop the game in just to play Shogi. Why did the localization team decide to leave that intact. I doubt the time was a factor, there was plenty of time to add the extra DLC, so I’m calling going to call the ones responsible out on this. What the hell is going on?!?!
Posted by Stan on March 7th, 2010 at 2:20 am
Comment # 702
Come on you guys at Sega, is it really so hard to announce exactly what has been cut from the game? (aside from the hostess and trivia stuff)
How about a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ on whether we will see this stuff brought back into the game via free DLC at a later date?
Really disappointed in the lack of information being given. The fans have been begging for more info day in and day out since this fiasco started. Come on and be ‘upfront to your fans’ about the questions being raised.
Posted by Silly Skeleton on March 7th, 2010 at 2:22 am
Comment # 703
Hilarious. Hysterical, in fact. Also, rather embarrassing. What am I referring to? The thousands of comments all over the internet from a bunch of desperate gaijin causing a ruckus over almost nothing. Sega doesn’t give a crap about all you fanboys threatening to cancel pre-orders and/or not buy the game. You know why? Because you’re all full of crap. You know you’re going to purchase Yakuza 3. As for the maybe .5% that are actually telling the truth: nobody cares. The financial success of this game isn’t going to be decided by a few dozen delusional nerds that think they are actually effecting anything.
As for myself, Yakuza 3 is going to be my first foray into the series, and the $5 off for pre-ordering the game, combined with the free DLC, more than makes up for missing content. Speaking of which, apparently there are some out there on the verge of a nervous breakdown due to rumors that Mahjong and Shogi chess have been taken out as well. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they are indeed gone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza_3#Completion
That should answer all questions as to exactly what is in and what is out. There are 928 total completion points in the “full” Japanese version versus 878 in the English version. So for those freaking out about “30% of the game being removed”, you’re utterly wrong. 94.6% of the game is completely intact, and that’s even when putting equal emphasis on story elements versus mini-games. If you want to boil it down to just “game chapters + non-DLC side-quests/mini-games”, it’s 633 versus 619, or 97.8%. And that’s with the removal of your precious Hostess Bars taken into account. Speaking of which, all the hostess girls are STILL THERE. You’ll be able to go on all the virtual dates you want.
All I know is I’ll be getting this game on Tuesday, and with the $5 off and my $5 pre-order, it’ll only cost me $49.99 at pickup, including the DLC. I know 99% of you will be doing the same. So please, save some dignity and stop with the empty threats.
Posted by Tesseract on March 7th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Comment # 704
Yeah I might not be picking this up now too. I’ll just import the Japanese version and play with a guide. The hostesses weren’t my favorite part, but I don’t like censorship, so, ebay here I come!
Posted by Spill on March 7th, 2010 at 5:58 am
Comment # 705
Hey Sega how about a Yakuza Collection featuring the first two games in high def with original dialogue and subs (and dub for first game) plus making the games fully voiced! im thinking of the god of war collection as inspiration as it rocked! (apart from the cutscenes which were not high def). include kenzan too to sweeten the deal and do this all before releasing yakuza 4, which again will be fully voiced. either that or hand off localization to a trusted company, can’t think of any other than rockstar who probably don’t do this thing. Anyway it’s an idea i thought worth sharing.
Posted by mannyonthemoon on March 7th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Comment # 706
What happen with my comment # 692?
Next week is the release and still no answer from SEGA.
Posted by Dragoon on March 7th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Comment # 707
Just cancelled my preorder. i was excited when you announced that you were going to “choose portions we felt didn’t resonate with western culture”. after playing the demo, i am really disappointed.
why?
Well, because the game still resonates of Japan. from the environment, the character designs, to the fact that they dont speak English. One thing you did right was to make the game more realistic by cutting the hostess part as non-japanese arent allowed into their clubs IRL anyway.
In conclusion, The changes were good, but much more could have been done. the game still feels way too japanese and therefore still does not resonate the least bit with my non-japanese culture.
Posted by Michael Corleone on March 7th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Comment # 708
Basically I think they wont comment until the game IS released and hope when they do comment most of us have settled down. Haha NOT gonna happen.
Posted by Kensan on March 7th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Comment # 709
Not sure what the fuss is about, just buy FF XIII and by the time you finish it, Yakuza 3 will be at the discount bin. SEGA isnt going to change it just because some 700 fans decide to voice their disappointment.
Posted by Winston on March 7th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Comment # 710
Why are people sticking up for SEGA?? They ignore us all and you expect us to respect them??? As for the content, I think its either laziness or they just dont want us ‘dumb Westerners’ to enjoy ‘their’ game, so they cut content worth a good few hours of gameplay, in turn we dont buy it which gives poor sales figures… a carefully pre-thought out excuse not to release Yakuza 4 to the Western world I think… Am I just paranoid??
Posted by Menace on March 8th, 2010 at 3:59 am
Comment # 711
If you cant be bothered to translate some of the less resonating parts, why not just leave them in, untranslated? that way, rather than spending even more time and money cutting the game, you actually get to earn more. granted that thats still doing a half-a**ed job, and some fans will no doubt still be upset. but seeing as you decided to release this title at such a bad timing with zero advertising, i seriously doubt you want the title to sell anyway, so you might as well just cut the cost even more. like they say, a penny saved is a penny earned.
on a side note, i have already played the japanese version of the game. though i will still get the westernised version (if i managed to find it used a couple of months down the road) just to play through the main plot again, and continue playing all the side quests as they were meant to be experienced in the japanese version.
Posted by Krauser on March 8th, 2010 at 6:00 am
Comment # 712
@#703 I hope you are just paranoid, but yes, you can expect them to be smart enough to know that these cuts will drop the sales and thus make an good excuse not to bring Yakuza 4 to the west.
However, i hope they will relaese Yakuza 4 here and it would be stupid not to relaese an “UNCUT DLC” since many people said they would “even pay” for that.
Posted by Samael on March 8th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Comment # 713
Comment #702
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Why? I am one of the few who pointed out the good parts of the change.
Just cancelled my preorder yesterday. i was excited when you announced you would change the game to make it resonate better, but when i played the demo a couple of days back, i was disappointed.
Why?
Well, because the game still feels way too japanese, from the environment, the character designs to the fact that they do not speak english. sadly, the game still made me feel like i am a japanese in japan. On the bright side, one of the good things you did was to cut the hostess part out, it made the game more realistic as non-japanese people arent allowed into the clubs IRL anyway. what made that less realistic though is that, in my opinion, my character still looks asian and why does he speak japanese? how could you actually forget to rework him?
In conclusion, you are going in the right direction, the changes were appropriate, but much more should have been changed. as of now the game still feels too japanese and therefore still do not resonate with my non-japanese culture. in the future, if you ever decide to release any more games from this series, please do me a favor and do a much more through job.
Posted by Michael Corleone on March 8th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Comment # 714
#703 – What an odd way to view things…so you don’t want YAKUZA 4? You played the and completed the first two games, and can just turn your back on YAKUZA 3 like that? I am not in agreement with you atall, and I hope im not alone on that…because if I am then this series will die in Japan. All thanks to people like yourself “Menace”. You will have accomplished nothing. Change the way you think man.
Charlie
Posted by Charlie Robson on March 8th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Comment # 715
gonna cancel my preorder because of that cut
Posted by Michael Kotzur on March 8th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Comment # 716
So I read you guys kept 16 out of 20 mini-games?! That sounds like a lot more than cut you told us SEGA!!!
Posted by Dust on March 8th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Comment # 717
@716
Yeah, I read that as well. Sega/RubyEclipse, I’m still gonna go out and buy the game, but cutting out more content than we were originally told is just messed up. I don’t know what the “higher-ups” are doin there, but they made the WRONG choice and upset your fans even more than you already have. I don’t know what they’re doin up there, but hopefully we’ll get a patch for the ‘even more’ missing content.
I’m still goin to support Sega/Yakuza here in the West, but I don’t know what’s gonna happen next…
Posted by MeanBob on March 8th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Comment # 718
Well, folks, Yakuza 3 drops tomorrow… who’s picking it up, excised content be damned?
Posted by Dave on March 8th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Comment # 719
I still won’t be picking it up. I will reconsider if the missing content is restored. Not just the hostess club, but all of what’s missing, Until then, no sale.
Posted by mirumu on March 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Comment # 720
Guys, please sign the Petition and Save Yakuza 3!
http://www.petitiononline.com/Y3NACC/petition.html
Posted by Balrog on March 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Comment # 721
Comment # 719:
Exactly my opinion.
Posted by Dragoon on March 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Comment # 722
I’ve got Yakuza 1 and 2 in my car right now ready to be traded for whatever I can get (I don’t care if it’s $1)… I don’t care anymore… I will no longer be following the western version of this series. Buying Yakuza 3 is like telling the localization team that it’s alright to cut content against the wishes of the true fans, which I can see is going to be inevitable in Yakuza 4 if they ever decide to release it… Sega USA, hope you don’t get shut down if future sales aren’t meeting expectations.
Posted by Stan on March 8th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Comment # 723
No Mahjong? No Shogi? What the hell SEGA? Neither of those games take ANY effort to translate. What do you have to translate? Purchasing the tokens? And? Is there ANYTHING else you need to translate? Did you actually think it was a good idea to take games out? Who thinks that way? What is wrong with you? You have to be the most incompetent company in video games. Remember when you didn’t suck? That was pretty awesome… I wish you could go back to not sucking again.
Posted by James on March 8th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Comment # 724
Ijust noticed gamestop web site not including preordered DLC continent . What the **** ! SEGA 1
Posted by keith kerns on March 8th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Comment # 725
Did the release date get pushed back to the 22nd?
Posted by Kensan on March 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Comment # 726
DAMN today it is out in the U.S any new about the cuts , buy someone this game and can tell us whats really cut and not ???? Its comin March 12 out in Europe and I’m from Europe….
SEGAAAA GIVE US RESPONSE FOR THE CUTS WILL YOU MAKE A DLC OR NOT
Posted by Bagabondo on March 9th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Comment # 727
I have not yet played any of the antecessors, but I was so glad when I heared that the the 3. part will also be available in Europe.
But no I do have a problem (and looking up the boards I think I’m not the only one by far), pay full for a half game?
or wait til that day when hopefully a “real” western version, who knows, maybe Yakuza 8 or 9 or so emerges…?
But it seems highly unlikely that the series will continue to have fans in the western world after what SEGA is doing to us. As it looks now, I will never be able to play any of the Yakuza parts without being able to fully understand the japanese language.
It looks to me that, after all of the waiting for the game, I will have to wait on.
Maybe someday a game will come up that has the unique fun and asian setting of the Yakuza series without trying to rip customers off and taking them for a bunch of fools unable to understand even the most obvious aspects of different cultures.
I’m out. and pi***ed, too.
Posted by Cyberzerk on March 9th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Comment # 728
God of War III is going to be awesome!
Posted by Stan on March 9th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Comment # 729
sega you suck at math, 99% of the game ?? I loled
Posted by Anon on March 9th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Comment # 730
I pre-ordered my copy on gamestop and today my status is BACKORDERED?! WTF sega?! Checked amazon and it doesn’t say in stock either and instead, “usually ships within 1-4 weeks” Are they pulling the games off the shelves, did anyone actually get a copy of the game?
Posted by Elly on March 9th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Comment # 731
@ 724 – I pre-ordered back in January and got an email yesterday with my pre-order promotion code. I’m retarted though cuz I don’t even own PS3 yet. Yeah, retarted of me to buy a PS3 to play a censorerd game but I never claimed to be smart or a big-time gamer. Eh, I was bound to get one anyway so if anything it will be an incentive for me to get into some other cool titles that are available for the system (I ordered Heavy Rain but haven’t gotten it yet -Has anyone played it?).
with that being said @ comment 725 – No. My card was just charged for the game so its still being released right on track. The actual game is on back order, though.
I was dissapointed about the cut content at first but now I’m so excited about the whole upgrading from PS2 to PS3 thing and just finding out what happens in the story that I’m kinda getting over it. I’m sure the missing stuff will be released for download later on since it’s causing such a ruckus for us fans. I mean, Sega wouldn’t do that to us – right?!
Posted by Denise on March 9th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Comment # 732
#714, losing Western sales wouldn’t make a difference, every title in the series was a bestseller in Japan.
Posted by brock2097 on March 9th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Comment # 733
First Sega said the game didn’t the cutted contents didn’t resonate then said to kotaku they lacked time.
Surprised they didn’t remove these mini-games
Chō-Han Bakuchi – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%8D-han
Koi-Koi – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi-Koi_%28card_game%29
Oicho-Kabu – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oicho-Kabu <— probably translated this to Black-Jack in the game so that it resonates =D
From what I can see its laziness and yeah its not 99% but 94% of the game. Honestly they made a extensive guide for mahjong and shogi for yakuza 2 and suppose they would have just made use of that while tweaking it.
Posted by anomalous on March 9th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Comment # 734
If they’re delaying the game to put the content back in somehow, then that’s great. I wouldn’t mind waiting. I want the game in it’s full entirety as it should have been. However, there are people who have their copies already which has led me to doubt that their going to pull the game back to put the content back. Whatevers, Sega USA isn’t going to be getting a cent from me ever until they fixed this mess.
Posted by Stan on March 9th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Comment # 735
^ To add despite me saying that and my complaining before though I still pre-ordered the game not because I agree with Sega’s decision and how they present the localised version game (cut content and from what I see as a way to say sorry, I give you free DLCs which ALL was free originally in Japan and we aren’t getting all of them).
But becuase I cannot get hold of the import eastern version and I love the series plus I want 4.
Like I was disappointed with the Bayonetta port (NO EXCUSE for that fail PS3 version, patch like 2 months later to fix is fail), I am highly disappoionted about this. I hope the message gets through so that 4 be like the original and we get a fix for the missing content but it seems unlikely from what I see from the lack of response from Sega Reps themselves and in the recent yakuza 3 related news
Posted by anomalous on March 9th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Comment # 736
At first I thought “hmm maybe SEGA isn’t that BAD anymore” Then I have to deal with this shit thinking that i can finally get the game to know that i don’t get to have the same content as the japanese version. No bars, no mahjong…i mean holy shit sega… you’re just pissing off people left and right. Put everything back where it originally was please… and stop making that sonic crap… its starting to annoy the motherfuck out of me.
Posted by Joe Park on March 9th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Comment # 737
Dear Sega, ‘Hrhhmm’ FUCK YOU!!!
Now that is over, let me give you some advice on how to get your fans back.
1: Fire the moron who was high and said
‘Hey I have a great Idea! Let us release Yakuza 3 at the same time as Final Fantasy 13 and God of War 3!!’
2: Fire the moron who responded with
‘Great Idea!! We will surely never lose on that!”
3: Apologies to your fans, be greatful that you have such a great fan base, as they are the only reason you get filthty rich.
4: Release the cut content as a free download, this will save some of the disaster you guys have made. No not paid DLC, FREE! Do not make a bigger shitstorm.
5: Apologies again.
6: You want to save the Yakuza market in the west. Let me make it more clear, Do you want to make MORE MONEY? and save yourself from the complete failed retarded marketing performance you guys made of Yakuza 3? Then release news that Yakuza 4 will be released in the west, that is the only way for you to save and get more support and MONEY, from the total shit storm you have made.
OR
Commit Seppuku. (if you do not know what it is, then there is no hope for you guys.)
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 9th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Comment # 738
Dear ALL Fans, My name is PISSEDOFFGAMER number 12498. This is a message to all of you great people (not sega). I wanted to tell you guys that as much as Segta is giving you the silent treatment I want you to not give up complaining or give up hope, this is not just for the fact that you want the cut content, because the message you are sending is not just a whining fact that you want more minigames, but also a clear message that it is YOU not THEM who decide what you want to play and not play in the game. It is YOU that decide if the hostess game is too japanese for the your taste, it is YOU that decide if you want to test your japanese knowledge on the trivia quiz minigame, it is YOU that decide if you want to frustrate yourselves (just me probably) on the rules of Mahjong and Shogi. Do not allow Sega to start thinking that they can censor game content because THEY think you would not understand their culture. Do not listen to the excuse that they had too litlle time to translate the game into text, as using a year to do that was already unaceptable. Also do not let them use this as an excuse to not release yakuza 4 to the west, complain and keep complaining by making forums and signing petitions and make sure to tell them that without YOU the fans, gaming industry is nothing! YOU are their consumers and YOU decide not THEM.
A meesage by a concerned Japanese citizen.
To all who wish to try something else in the mean time I suggest you test the demo of Yakuza 4, I think you need to make a Japanese user on the Ps3 before you can access it, but I can promise that even if you do not understand what they say, it is worth checking out.
PEACE OUT! and FUCK YOU AGAIN SEGA!!
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Comment # 739
Don’t you see SEGA how committed and passionate we are about the Yakuza franchise. Stop the madness and make us happy, announce the hostess bars and other content as DLC.
Posted by Seven5 on March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Comment # 740
Also to all fans who say that they will buy the gane because they want to support to get yakuza 4 out in the west, let me tell you one thing.
If you think that buying the game in its cut content state will get yakuza 4 to the west, then try thinking what kind of cuts they will do to yakuza 4 when it comes out to the west. what will be next? The cabaret is out obviously, maybe the karaokee because it is more popular in japan then in the west, how about the sushi stands cause nobody outside japan eats raw fish! Or maybe let us go with taking out the date simulation completely cause the west do not understand the japanese way of dating! How about getiing rid of golf, because OBVIOUSLY it is TOO japanese! You know what? the COMBAT I think is also too oriental, from now on let them use a slap instead! Fuck It I forgot the story is TOO JAPANESE let us cut this and that and that fucker and this woman and this girl, just because WE from sega know that it does not ressonate well with the west!
How far are you willing to go? Because I certainly do not see the point in playing the sequel of a game that has been cut, becuase the sequel will suffer the same fate if not worse!
To all the retards who are calling these complainers perverts, know that if you are gamers you would know it is not the fact that we do not get date sim that pisses us off but that a company decide what too censor and cut out just because they think we won’t RESSONATE well!
I would still have been pissed had it only been the trivia quiz they cut away, I would still be pissed off.
SEGA LISTEN TO THE FANS!!
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Comment # 741
# 703 WHAT KIND OF SEGA BITCH ARE YOU???
94 % of the game is still there so it is fine? Gracious Buddha’s stomach!
Do you relise that you are making yourself look like a fool, you are willingly paying an unfinished game just cause you think it is fine. You have no idea to what these complains are about do you?
It is about the fact that you are not supposed to be treated like second rate people, it is about the fact that Segs is pissing on their fan’s faces and you are practically saying to open our mouths and take it.
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 9th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Comment # 742
#741 your a little mixed up. I would rethink that approach.
Posted by Charlie Robson on March 10th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Comment # 743
I don’t know if you even read all these posts Sega, but even if you don’t the 700+ here should be at least some testament to the mistake you’re making. I will still buy the game, and I hope everyone else will as well, but please Sega, listen to your customers and at least make the cut content available at a later time, even if you have to charge for it. The bizarre (to me) elements of Japanese culture and the good story are what make the Yakuza games so immersive and captivating. The Hostess bars in particular are a vital part of the experience. PLEASE make the full content available, it will please the majority of the people playing, and surely ALL of the fanbase, ensuring better sales, and keeping everyone excited for #4.
Posted by Stillgoingtobuyit on March 10th, 2010 at 2:47 am
Comment # 744
I think SEGA just do things in their way. And that is to rip off people. I’m very disappointed.
First the VERY BAD port Bayonetta (which is a awesome game/patch was from SONY) and now a butchered Yakuza 3.
What’s next?!
Btw folks. Here is a super insight in the past from SEGA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvR_3OTxs8A
Great job Angry Video Game Nerd aka James. *lol*
Posted by Dragoon on March 10th, 2010 at 3:38 am
Comment # 745
The Yakuza franchise is many things, but there is one thing it is NOT, it is not GTA. Removing components of the game, which are unique to Yakuza, is making the comparaison between those two open worlds more and more possible, and I am sorry but Yakuza will greatly suffer when compared to GTA.
so what is Yakuza ?
Yakuza is an open window on modern japan, or at least on the modern cultural japan. its a virtual tour/experience of walking down the streets of cities like Tokyo/Kyoto/Osaka. I’ve been recently to Japan and it felt just like Yakuza 2 (which I bought on PS2), the streets, the shops, the game center, the UFO catcher.. Sames goes for Tokyo, with the Kabukicho (Kamurocho) the red light district and its hostess bar. In yakuza games host bars are even part of the story.
Managing a hostess bar was also a lot of fun, to decorate the place, scout for girls and interviewed them, make management decision was great. Also the story of becoming the number 1 host was a lot of fun. Truth to be told, I have had more funs with mini games, seducing hostess than with the storyline which sometimes a little boring.
What do we know about japanese culture ? Whenever I meet japanese they look so surprised we know so many things about japan. In france we have events like japanexpo which have become so popular for the past years, we have cosplay competition, we read manga and watch anime, we go to the movies to see the latest Ghibli movie or we rent dvd of Takeshi kitano’s movies (yakuza’s movies), we have Tv chanel dedicated to Japan (nolife-tv). For those of us, who had the chance to go work in japan, we definelty more and in peculiar, we know about izakaya and hostessbar where japanese can finally relax after work.
Looking down on us and chosing to remove contents. its a slap in our face, I read there and there, that the choice was made because westerner wouldn’t get it. Its arrogant and insulting. the choice was either no yakuza ? or cut yakuza ? what about a later yakuza, we’ve been waiting forever so a few more months wouldnt change anything. A year for an incomplete text translating version? thats a kinda of joke.
Yakuza 3 has already been late for a year plus, technology has long changed and I already had a chance to buy FF13, and I am afraid Yakuza won’t compare in terms of graphics.
so who is going to buy Yakuza 3 ? the fan base, the one waiting for over a year, when technology is evolving as fast you cannot appeal to a large public with older games. so what do we want ? original voice acting (thanks its not like FFXIII) and original content. basically it means we only need text translation.
What do we expect from a video game ? Simple put: to have fun. Hostess bars were fun, if you remove it you lose the fun part. Because I am sorry but Kazuma is not a really funny guy to hang around with.
to sum up: no girls, no fun, older game and no respect for us won’t make me buy this game
Posted by RomainFr on March 10th, 2010 at 3:41 am
Comment # 746
SEGA of America – Too old, do not want.
The cuts get my seal of disapproval;
http://i42.tinypic.com/2zrq1ea.jpg
Posted by Pedobear on March 10th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Comment # 747
@ PISSEDOFFGAMER12498
Don’t forget the cover design =D
this thread is actually funny http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=319214
Cover design are getting more ugly for localised games, why do you like to redesign the whole thing when there is already a good one available to improve on/remodel (original Jap cover). Yeah and they seems to be a trend of slapping a semi/ full protrait or a semi to full body shots on the cover.
Posted by anomalous on March 10th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Comment # 748
2 people I know here in the UK have received theirs today and report that their DLC does do not work. I assume this is because the content probably wont go live until tomorrow when PSN updates, or Friday when the game is officially out. It made me laugh that it says the battle pack thing was ‘previously only available in Japan’. What kind of retarded statement is that? The whole game was previously only available in Japan! Whoever wrote that needs to brush up on their skills a bit.
Still no where that says about the challenge pack with the two player darts/golf thing, someone said Gamestation did it in the UK, but they must have removed it from pre-orders, as it is no longer on the site. Hopefully this will be PSN DLC in a few weeks for everyone else….along with the cut content as free DLC!
Posted by Adam on March 10th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Comment # 749
Quote ‘ (To confirm as well, the Hostesses are in the game, and you can still go on dates, Karaoke, etc, with them.) ‘
You seem to think that the fans only care about the dating stuff, what possible reason did you have to remove Mahjhong? Sure it gave me a nervewreck when I was not abe to complete a tsumo but it was one great minigame. Shogi how are you even going to explain that absents, stop thinking that we are pissed off just because of the hostess cabaret, you have cut sidemissions, minigames, music, massage parlors, club management and who knows what more. Do you really believe that saying that the dating being still there justifies sega to cut all the rest?
ANSWER TO YOUR FANS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 10th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Comment # 750
# 742
The approach that is not acceptable is the way sega is treating you, also how does turning around and begging sega to give it to you up the ass help them understand what they are doing wrong?
Protesting by complaining and not Buying the game is the best way for them to relize their mistake.
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 10th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Comment # 751
The hostess clubs were put into the design by the deidicated designers and same for all the mini games. It took them ALOT of time to design character models and locations and it takes pretty clever people to make these things.
I feel bad for the designers as their art and hard work is not being alowed here in the West. Keep commenting. BTW I allready got my Japanese version. Good stuff!
Posted by Kensan on March 10th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Comment # 752
Got a look at the manual for the US version and its pretty CHEAP looking compared to the color Japanese one.
Posted by Kensan on March 10th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Comment # 753
It’s March 10th and what am I doing? Not playing my personally most anticipated 2010 game Yakuza 3. I was looking forward to this game ever since it was released in Japan. Instead, I’m playing Battledfield: B.C. 2 multiplayer until God of War III comes out. Funny, I was looking forward to Yakuza 3 more than any other game this year until they pull that “didn’t resonate with the west” shit. Resonance of Fate my ass.
Posted by Stan on March 10th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Comment # 754
Stan, I know exactly what you’re saying, if SEGA didn’t pull this bullshit I would be playing this game right now, Excited as hell and would’ve been running out yesterday for it, but right now I’m furious, and have been for the past few weeks, Why the fuck ain’t we getting any responses at all? Sega don’t give a flying fuck, if I ever meet the person who came up with this ‘resonate’ bull, I’d soo love to kick his ass. Words can’t even mention how angry and stressed I’ve been at SEGA for these past 2 weeks, every single day I come back to read the forums/blogs with hope that SEGA would reply with what they plan to do, but I don’t even know right now.
If I could just get word that they’ll do a DLC or Patch for ALL the missing content (Including the Trivia Games, Yes…Fucking…Everything), that would be fricking awesome (I WOULD EVEN BE WILLING TO PAY $100 FOR JUST THE UNCUT DLC!! THAT’S HOW MUCH OF A FAN I AM OF YAKUZA AND JAPANESE CULTURE), I don’t care if they don’t release a guide showing how to play Mahjong and Shogi, I mean that’s what the internet is for and they went into great detail in the previous games explaining how to play them, so just translate a few lines of text damnnit (if that, even) instead of making shit harder for yourself cutting it out and the hostess bars/massage parlors and all, because a lot more of the story would also make sense.
Some of the Translation (Well, at least from what I played in the US Censored Demo, “You don’t know Japanese?” replaced with “You’re not very talkative”) sucked royal, so if you could get that up to par, that would be great as well.
When Future SEGA games come out, I’m 100% sure im gonna remember this situation and think twice about getting any kind of SEGA game, you have just totally fucked around your loyal fans.
Like everyone has said, saying that you’ve had enough time or resonate is some of the most lamest excuses ever, doesn’t cut it, just fucking reply, everyone is waiting.
Posted by Balrog on March 10th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Comment # 755
Balrog
I am as pissed as you are, and I absolutely understand what you are feeling, but do not threat them or anyone with physical violence, no matter how you put it out in context. OK? cause that really does not resonate well with sega.
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 10th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Comment # 756
“The following quests were cut because they were deemed unsuitable the the Western audience.
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
So around 9/40 of the quests were cut for chapter 3-4″
- kilika829
I guess sega just enjoys lying to their hardcore fans. This really pisses me off Sega.
Posted by Deekman on March 11th, 2010 at 12:45 am
Comment # 757
he following quests were cut because they were deemed unsuitable for the Western audience.
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
So around 9/40 of the quests were cut for chapter 3-4.
Posted by Neal on March 11th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Comment # 758
I agree with Deekman.
I’m sorry but this is just a disgrace to the fans. you say this is unsuitable for us? oh please, have you seen half of the stuff in the west, it’s worst then what Japan has.
You also say it unsuitable correct? we are 18 years of age my friends. We have strip clubs and stuff like that in the west, why is it unsuitable?
I dont not agree in cenorship, you have thrown away all the hard work of the designers and it shows you do not respect there time and effort they put into this.
I dont know if you understand Sega, but we are the ones that give you the cash. It must be annoying to see your fans bashing stuff, but when you as a company decide whats best for us is a disgrace. You ask for our support, we give it you, then you screw us over.
Do you expect us to sit and be silent about it? honestly cutting so much detail from a game is wrong. just because you might not except it, dosnt mean we dont. we have had all the mini games and side quests in the past 2 games, why have you decided to cut it in this one? Is it because you are lazy? or do you just treat you loyal fans like they dont mean anything, and leave them be.
I hope you can fix this problem and release the cuts as a DLC I will be “Extreamly” dissapointed if dont listen to your fans.
Posted by Adam26 on March 11th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Comment # 759
I’m with Balrog on this one. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started receiving envelopes with death threats or something of the sort in their mail.
This better be part of Sega’s plan to release it as DLC to prevent trade-ins… I still have not got the game, Day 2.
In response to the article here at: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/6734.html, I have to say it all starts to make sense now. If it’s really time constraints, was Sega really trying to make the deadline for the game to debut in March with other titles? Shit, I would have got it above all other games this month. One of the reasons I didn’t purchase Final Fantasy XIII is because it was still being dubbed (and that’s my personal preference). I’ve been doing fine without the FFXIII. But Thank You Sega for not dubbing part two. However, I realize now that Sega didn’t dub Yakuza 2 FOR THE FANS now. It’s to minimize their resources while claiming it’s purpose was to satisfy fans, it’s win-win for Sega there. @Aaron Webber: You don’t seem to understand how this works, whether Sega USA is going to survive depends on your fans. Without the fans, you wouldn’t be at your position right now. If Yakuza 4 didn’t come out, do you think I would miss it that much? I would always still have the option to import it while the USA division of Sega falls deeper into the fissure. As mush as I would like to play Bayonetta, but due to the poor development of the PS3 port, I can live without it. You all are not only competing for our support, but against other developers and publishers. I’m sure Yakuza could find another publisher, but frankly, I don’t care. Sega’s rap sheet is proof of that. You all lied about the amount of content removed.
Posted by Stan on March 11th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Comment # 760
Having original contain remove from the game is a bad decision to make, especially a lot of people love the hostess bars in Yakuza series (See how much work the studio spend on choosing the hostess bar girl in Yakuza 4), and it is one big thing many of us will enjoy. If SEGA really is listening to us, at least put it back to the game as a DLC in the future and charge for the work. Customer will be a lot happier this way and SEGA make more money out of the game, that’s a win win situation to both side.
Posted by Jeff on March 11th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Comment # 761
I’m waiting for a DLC with the hostess club and ALL the quests.
If it’s not going to be released,I won’t buy the game…
Posted by GOLGO 13 on March 11th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Comment # 762
Past few weeks were quite interesting. I didn’t buy any new games for two months because I knew that March would be awesome. I was planning to buy FFXIII, Yakuza 3 and Resonance of Fate, and leave Heavy Rain, BFBC2 and GoW3 on the shelves for now. But then the first news about the cuts came (I must thank IGN for getting this to our attention) and I became a little worried. When people started to speculate the possible omissions of mahjong and shogi, and Sega didn’t do anything to shoot down these rumors, I cancelled my pre-order, just in case.
Next week, speculations increased and Sega gave us some half-assed responses, which frustrated some people even more. Finally people started to have their first copies of the game and it was confirmed that mahjong and shogi (and massage parlor) were not in the game and we got no word of any possibility of a patch or DLC. Then Y3 went to my “buy as a used copy”-list. That wasn’t end of it. Then there were even more cuts, this time it was bunch of side missions. “Oh you, Sega” I thought, and moved RoF to my “buy as a used copy”-list as well.
Well, I hope you guys make enough profit with this, so that you decide to bring Yakuza 4 here uncut (no thanks to me of course, but I have to draw line somewhere). And take a few notes from Atlus, please. I’m just wondering, what does Nagoshi-san think about your handling of his game?
Posted by KKiryu on March 11th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Comment # 763
I am stunned, I really am…
Chapter 3-4 – cut quests
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
From here – http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?p=5657144#post5657144
Chapter 5 – cut quests
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Apparently the guy who posted this has some for Chapter 6 too, which he’ll post later. The following has been confirmed from a reviewer on this site – http://www.thunderboltgames.com/reviews/article/yakuza-3-review-for-ps3.html
-”Loser” (Japanese theme song by Eikichi Yazawa)
-Wooing women in hostess clubs
-Managing a hostess club
-Mahjong mini-game
-Shogi mini-game
-Massage parlor mini-game
-Answer X Answer trivia game
-Convenience store magazine browsing
99%? I didn’t believe that when you said it, but from all of the above, it’s looking more like 75%. I don’t know how many chapters there are in total, but that percentage is going to get a lot lower once people confirm more things missing.
Holy shit, this is terrible. I am starting to wish you had never bothered. Let’s hope Atlus pick up Yakuza 4 for release in the west, you clearly can’t handle it. With all the stuff that seems to be missing, you might aswell give everyone who bought a copy already a free ‘directors cut’ disc with a 100% complete (all of the above + anything else you have cut that no one has spotted yet) and translated game.
Posted by Adam on March 11th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Comment # 764
I’m getting word that the DLC that comes with the pre-order @ GameStop is only 100kB or so which may possibly mean that the content is already on disc and the downloadable content is only an unlocker.
Posted by Stan on March 11th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Comment # 765
“I am stunned, I really am…
Chapter 3-4 – cut quests
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
From here – http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?p=5657144#post5657144
Chapter 5 – cut quests
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Apparently the guy who posted this has some for Chapter 6 too, which he’ll post later. The following has been confirmed from a reviewer on this site – http://www.thunderboltgames.com/reviews/article/yakuza-3-review-for-ps3.html
-”Loser” (Japanese theme song by Eikichi Yazawa)
-Wooing women in hostess clubs
-Managing a hostess club
-Mahjong mini-game
-Shogi mini-game
-Massage parlor mini-game
-Answer X Answer trivia game
-Convenience store magazine browsing
99%? I didn’t believe that when you said it, but from all of the above, it’s looking more like 75%. I don’t know how many chapters there are in total, but that percentage is going to get a lot lower once people confirm more things missing.
Holy shit, this is terrible. I am starting to wish you had never bothered. Let’s hope Atlus pick up Yakuza 4 for release in the west, you clearly can’t handle it. With all the stuff that seems to be missing, you might aswell give everyone who bought a copy already a free ‘directors cut’ disc with a 100% complete (all of the above + anything else you have cut that no one has spotted yet) and translated game.
Posted by Adam on March 11th, 2010 at 5:05 pm”
Really? and SEGA called it only 1% of the game cut? I feel like I paid for a car without a wheel, this is terrible.
Posted by Jesiu on March 11th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Comment # 766
Hey Sega,
Please release the cut content as Free DLC. I bought Yakuza 3 to show my support. The ball is now in your court.
Posted by Rich on March 11th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Comment # 767
@#764
“I’m getting word that the DLC that comes with the pre-order @ GameStop is only 100kB or so…”
That’s right. It took five seconds to “download” and install.
On another topic: The convenience store magazine browsing was cut?! I purposely viewed only two mags in the demo to keep the rest fresh for the full game. I should have known something was up when I visited Poppo with Haruka and did not get a prompt in front of the magazine rack.
You’ve got some borderline idiotic decision-makers, SEGA. Boo on you.
Posted by Dave on March 12th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Comment # 768
Being to Japan itself and experiencing it’s nightlife, the content removed was one of my key factors to purchasing this game. Now that it is removed, I do not see myself purchasing this incomplete game. Hopefully there will be a DLC announcement for the missing content soon while the game is still fresh on the market. If nothing is done now, Yakuza 4 is probably going to be incomplete as well and not worth buying.
Posted by John Q on March 12th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Comment # 769
It turns out cut are more than just “hostess bar and quiz”, now some “side quest” is gone, one of the “girl for date” is also missing. What the heck SEGA? You just selling us something with corners cut and thinks your customer wouldn’t noticed? There are so many ways to get a copy of game from internet and customer like us decided to use our hard earn money to support you product, and this is how you treat us? Why am I buying SEGA product again? No, I will not buy anymore SEGA product in the future.
Posted by Siu on March 12th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Comment # 770
This is a massively stupid move. The way Sega have worded this, it doesn’t matter how much the fans request for this content to remain, it will not happen and it never will. Why else would they say “It’s either this or nothing” in the first place. It’s obvious Sega will not go this length for its fans and consumers, after all, it’s just business, and business doesn’t care. This content needs to be in the game if Sega wants to remain as high as they can amidst all the other game companies of today, but if Sega wants to go about sinking itself to the murky depths, this is the right way to go about it.
What the hell happened to you, Sega? You used to be cool.
Posted by James on March 12th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Comment # 771
Day 4 without Yakuza 3 for me. Got my other games to buy and own.
Posted by Stan on March 12th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Comment # 772
Pre-ordered Yakuza 3 anyway with faith that the cut content will be released as DLC. You are losing a lot of paying customers over this, please give us the DLC. I’m happy I have the game at all, but still…
Posted by Baz on March 12th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Comment # 773
Also, I am fully ok with paying for the DLC, I just want the content like most others who posted here (they may or may not agree with paying but we all want it equally). Please reconsider Sega.
Posted by Baz on March 12th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Comment # 774
“I am stunned, I really am…
Chapter 3-4 – cut quests
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
From here – http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?p=5657144#post5657144
Chapter 5 – cut quests
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Apparently the guy who posted this has some for Chapter 6 too, which he’ll post later. The following has been confirmed from a reviewer on this site – http://www.thunderboltgames.com/reviews/article/yakuza-3-review-for-ps3.html
-”Loser” (Japanese theme song by Eikichi Yazawa)
-Wooing women in hostess clubs
-Managing a hostess club
-Mahjong mini-game
-Shogi mini-game
-Massage parlor mini-game
-Answer X Answer trivia game
-Convenience store magazine browsing
99%? I didn’t believe that when you said it, but from all of the above, it’s looking more like 75%. I don’t know how many chapters there are in total, but that percentage is going to get a lot lower once people confirm more things missing.
Holy shit, this is terrible. I am starting to wish you had never bothered. Let’s hope Atlus pick up Yakuza 4 for release in the west, you clearly can’t handle it. With all the stuff that seems to be missing, you might aswell give everyone who bought a copy already a free ‘directors cut’ disc with a 100% complete (all of the above + anything else you have cut that no one has spotted yet) and translated game.
Posted by Adam on March 11th, 2010 at 5:05 pm”
I feel stupid, feels like I paid full price for a demo instead of a proper game <_<
Posted by anomalous on March 12th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Comment # 775
Right, I’ve emailed SEGA JP to desperately help us, and pretty much everything else in my power, (forum posts, blogs, petitions etc etc) I’ve just been wondering, has anyone got a reponse from Japanese SEGA? I wonder what they think about this.
You gotta fucking love the way SEGA spent time removing Club koakuma (and they removed the accessible ageha hostess club as well) and the massage parlour from the US/European Demo (The Map) even though you can’t even go to them at all, no where near them in fact in the demo, fucking stupid, they have time to do this bullshit when they can’t fucking just translate a few lines of text so that the game is one step closer to being released in full, tossers.
I was extremely excited when they annonuced Sonic 4, it looks pretty good, but you can be sure I ain’t gonna get that for sure now, it doesn’t “resonate” with me.
Reading posts I can see Ruby is a fan of Yakuza (or what I’d like to beleive), if I was working for SEGA at that time, I’d be pressuring their nuts to reply to us at fucking least, what gives? People are gonna complete the game and confirm the cuts before SEGA even get around to it, if they ever do.
Posted by Balrog on March 12th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Comment # 776
“Also, I am fully ok with paying for the DLC, I just want the content like most others who posted here (they may or may not agree with paying but we all want it equally). Please reconsider Sega.
Posted by Baz on March 12th, 2010 at 5:00 pm”
You do realise that the Japan had the game full with no extra charge plus all the additional DLCs for free. It feels to me that the free DLCs they provided for the US/UK are just a way of saying sorry for removing content from the game <_<
If they ask for money for content they removed and then charge for it again, this will be morally wrong. However if it is NEW content then it justifies charging.
Posted by anomalous on March 12th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Comment # 777
THEY CUT THE GAME WITHOUT REDUCING THE PRICE SO HOW COULD THEY CHARGE FOR THE DLC THAT WE DESERVED.
THIS IS LIKE HALF THE GAME WE ARE HAVING, DO YOU KNOW THAT HOW IMPORTANT ROLE DOES THE SIDE MISSION PLAY IN THE GAME? BY CUTTING THE SIDE MISSION IS REALLY A DAMN UNACCEPTABLE.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY ABOUT CUTTING THE SIDE MISSION NOW HUH? THE SIDE MISSION DOES NOT RESONATE WITH THE WEST? BTW, DO REMIND YOU THE GAME DOES NOT ONLY GO TO THE WEST BUT ALSO COUNTRY ALL AROUND THE WORLD THAT USES ENGLISH. ARE YOU SAYING THAT JAPAN CULTURE DOES NOT RESONATE WITH THE WORLD?
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 12th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Comment # 778
Damn after seeing the MEB information Center and the HOST CLUB i really am worried why the hell did you cut out the Hostess bars….. The Stardust Club looks great + people who dont know what a Host club is wont “resonate” with 99% of the Story since they don´t know who all these Character´s are, yes there´s some explanation to all that but if i hadn´t played the first game i wouldn´t even think about reading all that text about these Characters…
Anyway just posting here to Complain about the Cuts, i paid 60€ for an Incomplete game and i don´t even know what exactly been cut, everyday someone post´s some new things that have been cut.
I´m not blaming you Ruby for what you said or anything, i know your just a puppet that gets said what he can say and what not, but i´m really dissapointed with SEGA as a company. Especially since for the PS3 there are not that many games Yakuza 3 could have sold pretty good, espiacially since it´s one of the Best games i ever played, but what happened to the Game is just wrong. I don´t even blame the guys that decided the Cuts, they hopefully where just forced to do so by the higher ups. I hope there will be an real anouncement about all this soon.
Neverttheless, as a paying Customer i will again use my right to complain about the Cuts. I paid for an Beta Version, so i want the game to be patched so that it works as the Creator´s intended it.
Greetings from Germany
Posted by Samael on March 13th, 2010 at 2:00 am
Comment # 779
I just talked to a friend of mine who is a lawyer, and I wanted to tell the fans that if they are discontent with Yakuza 3 because of the certain cuts that were not officially mentioned by sega. Then you can ask for a refund from sega, if they do not answer or if they refuse than you have the choice to sue them for Truth in labeling and Fals Advertising. Acording to my friend.
Just a thought for those who bought the game and did not realise the extensive cuts that were made to the game.
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 13th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Comment # 780
great game Sega, but im gutted mah jong was removed.
Please release in as DLC. soon, and be honourable, like in the game.
PSN
BEAVIS-HUTSON
Posted by BEAVIS-HUTSON on March 13th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Comment # 781
I just talked to a friend of mine who is a lawyer, and I wanted to tell the fans that if they are discontent with Yakuza 3 because of the certain cuts that were not officially mentioned by sega. Then you can ask for a refund from sega, if they do not answer or if they refuse than you have the choice to sue them for Truth in labeling and Fals Advertising. Acording to my friend.
Just a thought for those who bought the game and did not realise the extensive cuts that were made to the game.
Another friend of mine has already asked for a refund, he is waiting answer.
Ps I am pretty sure I posted this message once in here, and I found out it was gone. Good work Sega.
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Comment # 782
it´s not gone, the Comment showing is just buggy
Posted by Samael on March 13th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Comment # 783
I imported this game because Sega lied to gamers by saying it won’t be released in the West. Then a few months ago I thought wow I get to finally play the game I spent 100 bucks on and not have to use a FAQ that spoils the gaming experience because I have to read everything first to understand what I have to do to play a game that Sega was too lazy to release properly the first time.
Why would you cut content? Why can’t you manage to release both east and west games at the same time without lying to your fans? Sega does not care about it’s supports!
Posted by angry gamer on March 14th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Comment # 784
Also I’d like to thank you sega for ruining an experience I have waited a year for after having imported the original game but can’t enjoy because again you can’t manage to release your games properly.
Posted by angry gamer on March 14th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Comment # 785
Stop lying to your fans Sega, i just read about how many missions were cut in the above posts. You owe the fans who supported you an apology and content.
Posted by angry gamer on March 14th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Comment # 786
It is a really bad experience with an excellence game by chopped by SEGA. No you know what, SEGA is properly laughing at their customer because they know you will buy it no matter what. Bad SEGA bad.
Posted by Jeff on March 15th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Comment # 787
Irony at it’s best:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1707/img01396.jpg
(Courtesy of gamefaqs Yakuza 3 board)
Posted by Rip on March 15th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Comment # 788
I’ve bought Yakuza 3 because I really wanted it, even with these ‘cuts’… but 99% still intact??? I DONT THINK SO SEGA, I feel like i’ve been mugged… I’ve played Yakuza 4 demo and its pretty good, you go to a massage parlour and bathe with a girl then you play table tennis with a her, this is all in story mode, not a side misson so if they do decide to release Yakuza 4 in the West it should have the massage parlour AT LEAST since they cant really cut out the story… or can they.
Posted by Menace on March 15th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Comment # 789
Firstly, I bought Yakuza 3 knowing there would be significant cuts. Am I happy? certainly not, it just feels weird. Now I am indeed LOVING the game every single bit of the way, but the desire to see what I’m missing lingers; Its distracting, upsetting. All I hope for is that Sega will notice how hurt the true fans are and do something about future hopeful releases such as ryu ga gotoku kenzan or Yakuza 4.
Posted by Casey on March 15th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Comment # 790
Waited forever for this…..Failed sega just lost a customer dude i was actually going to get 2 copy’s Tomorrow
Posted by they never learn on March 15th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Comment # 791
Sega had just destroy a good game, and could even be the best game of the year. Ppl might say that it might be GOW3 or FF13 but to me, it will sure be yakuza 3 but not the cut version. Perfect game like this with full of content and you go cut it ending up that it only left with 70%+.
I REALLY DUN KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE UP TO, PLS AT LEAST GIVE SOME REPLY TO THIS.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 16th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Comment # 792
-”Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”-
The choice is very Simple! No Ykuza in the West! Why should i pay Full for a Half game? It´s missing over 20 Sidequest and the Bars, Parlors and e.t.c.
For that Iwill not buy Yakuza 3 in the West. Compared to this i will not Download Sonic 4 this summer!
Greets a former Yakuza Fan!
Posted by Kasi on March 16th, 2010 at 3:27 am
Comment # 793
SEGA do you realise Yakuza and newcomer Bayonetta are your diamonds in the rough? You give them to us Westerners with cuts or bugs (PS3 Bayonetta frame rate) but your cheesy kiddy Sonic games are fine, NO CUTS OR BUGS, are you for real… NO ONE CARES ABOUT SONIC ANYMORE!
Posted by Menace on March 16th, 2010 at 5:27 am
Comment # 794
Yeah, Sonic begane to be lame after they started this whole 3D game series.
However, Yakuza truly has potenzial, especially since there are not so many Open World games on PS3 and to me only lontime motivation games are worthy of beeing bought, games that i can finish in just 5-8 Hours only get rent from my Video Library.
So games with many side quests like Yakuza could really sell good since there are not so many games as there where for PS2
Posted by Samael on March 16th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Comment # 795
SEGA you are evil, and you failed your customer by hiding all your wrong doing. Put it back to a DLC SEGA!
Posted by Jsiu on March 16th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Comment # 796
Just to show how much they are paying attention
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1077861p1.html
Changing the topic but time to start demanding now before they bring 4
Posted by Kensan on March 16th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Comment # 797
I guess Yakuza will never get a complete translate? What about Euro version? Maybe one day another studio will transfer it in the future.
Posted by Jeff on March 16th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Comment # 798
give us back our content. I paid 100 dollars to import this game and couldn’t enjoy playing it because there was no subtitles then. Stop being Lazy Sega.
Posted by angry gamer on March 17th, 2010 at 12:08 am
Comment # 799
It’s over dudes. Sega doesn’t seem to want to respond. The comments have reached to a count of almost 800 with many other forums having giant threads about this subject. If they haven’t responed by now… I just encourage everyone to now divert their attention to Yakuza 4. Just wait ’till you play through the last chapter of Yakuza 3, you’ll see why…
Posted by Seven5 on March 17th, 2010 at 12:15 am
Comment # 800
Now its 800 Comments, just to make it another full hundred´s of comments.
It´s been enough time for them to clearly post anything usefull, but they didn´t even bother to post the cuts. It´s been almost a month after this little Post was put up and still nothing happened. Even if they did give all the response to the higher ups, everything what they care about are the sales, if the games sells good enough they don´t need to translate it, if the sales are to low, why would they bother even putting more money into something that doesn´t make them enough money……
Nevertheless i still hope they will give an official and usefull statement to this whole mess, because if this doesn´t happen before i get bored of yakuza 3 “light” and i stop checking this bloq regualary i will stop buying any SEGA products, even though i loved the AVP series and bought the game despite knowing that the singleplayer campaign would be too short, i bought it just to support the Developer´s. I also hoped that the Second Valkyria Chronicles would also be avaible for PS3 since i loved the first part and Resonance of fate also looks nice but i won´t buy any SEGA product if they don´t give me an complete version of Yakuza 3.
I know that it won´t make any difference if i stop buying SEGA products, but i won´t give an company money that doesn´t deserve it, i would just be scared to buy an censored or incomplete product again. I don´t want to be forced to check for every game i buy what exactly has been cut or if they bring out an uncut patch.
Posted by Samael on March 17th, 2010 at 4:42 am
Comment # 801
Day 8 without Yakuza 3. What am I doing? Battlefield during the noon and God of War III. Sad really, without Yakuza 3 in full. I’m hanging in there so far. I did without Bayonetta’s crappy PS3 port since January and I can do without a censored Yakuza 3.
Posted by Stan on March 17th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Comment # 802
I am not angry, just dissepointed by your choice SEGA. I will NOT buy your game, If i just wanted to kill randoms i would play GTAIV but really, how could you backstab your fans? As a “Japanophile” i must say that you have excecuted my love for your game. Btw i do not think that Americans understands the Napolionic wars so i think it would be best to cut all the European wars and nations and instead only focuse on the war of 1812 between The United States of America and Canada, Sounds like a plan for some easy dollars ehy???? I think you get the point Hurr Durr. Also on a sidenote this seriously hampers Japans quest for world domination, You will lose many sleeper agents becouse of this choice.
Posted by Oliver stian Seivaag on March 17th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Comment # 803
This probably why Sega had to cut content; “Financial year ends 5 April. The last Friday of March has often been a dumping ground for slightly more niche stuff, there was a crazy day for the DS a few years back IIRC. ” Basically it;s to save on taxes
There’s also another theory involving atlas;
” Sega wasn’t going to release this. They found out that if they didn’t release it in this quarter Sega of Japan would license it to Atlus in a deal with Yakuza Kenzan and first dibs rights to all future Yakuza games. They freaked out and realized that they’d lose the rights to Sega’s biggest Japanese franchise that their Japanese side will be pouring money into regardless of Western sales, so they’re cobbling it together just to hold onto the license for the future.
-Weş”
Source
http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2010/02/yakuza-3-ruined-by-segas-stupidity.html
Posted by Seven5 on March 17th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Comment # 804
@ Seven5
but aren’t sega of europe/america part of sega japan ??? I would would have thought they save it for like themselves or child branches instead of giving it away =p
Posted by anomalous on March 17th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Comment # 805
DUDE WHY DONT WE JUST SEND THEM A LETTER! THE ADDRESS IS IN BACK OF THE GAME ! USE IT AND ABUSE IT THEN USUALLY A BLOG SITE WHERE CEO DONT LOOK !
ADDRESS IS
SEGA OF AMERICA Inc. 350 Rhode Island Suite 400, San Francisco 94103
Blogging gets no where
Posted by Tony on March 17th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Comment # 806
The fiscal year speculation makes the msot sense (something I’ve … the fact that you “know you are being heard” and that RubyEclipse “can’t say anymore than that presently” makes it sound like they are doing something about it whether it be DLC or Yakuza 3: Uncut re-release version… but I doubt it.
I don’t believe that the cut content was due to publishing competition between Atlus because I believe that once the license for localizing Yakuza 3 has been obtained, it’s secured once and for all so they can take as long as they want to localize it, such as completely including all the removed side missions. Right? Or No?
Posted by Stan on March 18th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Comment # 807
I was gonna get a PS3 solely for this game. It seems to offer a unique gaming experience and offer things other similar series do not.
I never actually played Yakuza before, but from the reviews, I probably would have become a repeat customer.
Bad move on removing content. I guess we should all just go back to White Boy games like GTA and MW2
What a waste of time. no respect for us at all.
Posted by disappointed on March 18th, 2010 at 12:08 am
Comment # 808
Does this mean we can expect some news when the new financial year begins in a few weeks? Over 800 comments and still no word, not even an official list of all the cut content/music/characters etc. No word on if there will be DLC to put it back in or not. All we have confirmed is that the DLC on some pre-orders (which I couldn’t find at all in the UK) will be made available (doesn’t say whether it’s free or paid, free I hope). Very slack, SEGA! Give us the content back! Every single piece that has been removed!
Posted by Adam on March 18th, 2010 at 3:24 am
Comment # 809
Well, in fact all content is still on the disc. So… 100KB for ten bucks = happy fans!
Posted by Yakuza-dono on March 18th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Comment # 810
Crack that freaking hiding contains, I’m so sick of SEGA hiding all their fail and put in to their customer.
Posted by Jeff on March 18th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Comment # 811
Oh, and if you wonder how do I know that content is still on disk – just compare a data size of japanese and american version. What you will see? American version is slightly bigger.
Posted by Yakuza-dono on March 18th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Comment # 812
Yakuza-dono- not being rude, but do you have any solid proof? I’m just curious.
I don’t car if they charged $50 for DLC, so long as everything (Yes, 100%, Not “99% and less trivia”) is there, and the translations are better, i’m such a massive fan of the Yakuza series and I can’t even describe how frustrated and angry I’ve been since SEGA announced the cuts.
Posted by Balrog on March 18th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Comment # 813
This game was just incredible…you guys are crazy for not getting it….no hostess clubs, but I still got around 60 hours out of the game. 60 HOURS! They didn’t take much out…and the story was amazing. GET THE GAME DAMMNIT!
Charlie.
Posted by Charlie Robson on March 20th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Comment # 814
I have an idea, why dont people instead of moaning just buy the imported version of Yakuza 3 from Japan, like im going to do? Sega has always been the same (i.e. dreamcast and no zero gunner 2 or under defeat), guess what? i imported these games to UK.
Posted by ci.smith on March 20th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Comment # 815
They didn´t take enough out to make this a bad game, no it´s still one of the best PS3 games even with the cuts. But our point is that we want the game to be uncut, especially when the cuts are not just “a little less trivia” complete sidemissions that had nothing to do with the Hostess club/mahjon/shogi etc. have been cut.
Yes those who truly didn´t buy the game are indeed missing one hell of a game, but i doubt that everyone who said he won´t buy the game didn´t atleast rent it.
Posted by Samael on March 20th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Comment # 816
Come on SEGA, its time to give us some answers! We want our Content back!
I dont give a F*** Charlie. Iam not able to enjoy game that are butchered…
can,t make it out with my mind. sorry, 60 hours my A$$
Posted by Ryujin on March 20th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Comment # 817
SEGA should check their boards and address this complaint!
Posted by angry gamer on March 20th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Comment # 818
Still no Yakuza 3 for me which would make it Day 11 for me. I’ll just play other games until they put the content back for me to purchase the game. Oh hey! Resonance of Fate is out isn’t it? I’ll just play that in the mean time… oh wait, it’s published by Sega? Probably has cuts in it too, I’ll wait til I get confirmation that there’s no cuts before I get it.
Posted by Stan on March 20th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Comment # 819
well…couple of things, why bother cutting content when you can basically copy and paste+ english subs which brings up my next issue. WHY DID THE SUBBING TOOK A YEAR >=( put everything back in dammit
Posted by Kenny on March 20th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Comment # 820
The game is great but playing the game with cutted content, the feeling is really sux. Sega of america I really think that u are the most sux game developer ever.
I can enter the mahjong camp but i cant play damn mahjong, the ppl keep on talking about hostess club but there are no hostess club, and I get free gift from the pool game, but I can do nothing with it as it is to give it to hostess but i cant now. DUN YOU THINK ALL THIS SUX, DUN YOU HAVE BRAIN TO THINK?
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 21st, 2010 at 1:39 am
Comment # 821
Come on SEGA, any news/update on whether we are going to get the cut content put back in the UK/US versions of Yakuza 3?
I’m from the UK and have the game and I think it’s really good but the missing content still badly needs to put back into the game via a patch or DLC to do the game proper justice.
PLEASE! make this happen SEGA, I can honestly say that if you get all the missing content put back into the game then I think it would be one of my favoutive games EVER!
Finally, PLEASE! hurry up and release Yakuza 4 in the UK/US.
Thanks!
RJB
Posted by RJB on March 22nd, 2010 at 2:20 am
Comment # 822
Anyone else given up yet? I can’t be bothered to keep fighting for the content we should have had from day 1 any more.
You have won SEGA, you’re clearly not going to answer us, nor will you release any of this cut content as DLC.
Posted by Adam on March 22nd, 2010 at 4:48 am
Comment # 823
@822
It would be easy to give up, but me personally I’m just hoping SEGA do the decent & correct thing and put the content back in the game, so although I fear the worst I’m certainly not giving up hope.
The content should be released for FREE, but I’d happily pay for the content via the DLC route if it meant we got the complete game “how it should be”
I love Yakuza 3 but I’m still very upset by how many side missions and overall content has been cut, it’s just plain wrong and most importantly there’s simply no GOOD excuse for this at all.
SEGA would win back a lot of fans support if they sort this mess out, I just wish that SEGA would come out and respond, and let us know if it will ever happen?
Posted by RJB on March 22nd, 2010 at 5:58 am
Comment # 824
Once again, I don’t believe in that Atlus speculation… but it does make some sense.
@SEGA:
You still need to bring in Kenzan over to the states. Also, more importantly is that SEGA’s reputation has now become synonymous with cutting content. Do you seriously want the industry to continue viewing SEGA this way?
30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
Comment # 825
I bought Yakuza 3 on release day and have maybe played it once or twice. I’m not even going to consider starting a proper playthrough of the game until I get confirmation either way from Sega that the cut content is or isn’t going to be re-instated into the game via patch/DLC.
Sega, I hope that my purchase of the game (and everyone elses) somehow contributes to your decision to give us the cut content and also bring Yakuza Kenzan and Yakuza 4 – both completely uncut – to the US and Europe.
Ruby, if you’re still reading and compiling these comments isn’t there anything more you can tell us yet? You say you are sending our complaints to the higher-ups but why haven’t they responded to them? Or even acknowledged that they’re listening to us and taking our concerns seriously?
Posted by Flint on March 22nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
Comment # 826
As long as I hold the game, I will not give up on asking Sega to put the cutted content back to the game. I mean what is the problem of translating a few words?
At least give us some reply so I can sell the game once I completed. NO POINT KEEPING A DEMO VERSION OF A GAME.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 23rd, 2010 at 1:31 am
Comment # 827
Bring back the Cutted content.
Only Nazi´s censor things
Posted by Samael on March 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 am
Comment # 828
Sega better do something about it, no one like what it is without the full contains. Not buying it.
Posted by Siu on March 23rd, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Comment # 829
SEGA would be seeing better sales with the content intact.
30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 23rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Comment # 830
“I am stunned, I really am…
Chapter 3-4 – cut quests
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
From here – http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?p=5657144#post5657144
Chapter 5 – cut quests
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Apparently the guy who posted this has some for Chapter 6 too, which he’ll post later. The following has been confirmed from a reviewer on this site – http://www.thunderboltgames.com/reviews/article/yakuza-3-review-for-ps3.html
-”Loser” (Japanese theme song by Eikichi Yazawa)
-Wooing women in hostess clubs
-Managing a hostess club
-Mahjong mini-game
-Shogi mini-game
-Massage parlor mini-game
-Answer X Answer trivia game
-Convenience store magazine browsing
99%? I didn’t believe that when you said it, but from all of the above, it’s looking more like 75%. I don’t know how many chapters there are in total, but that percentage is going to get a lot lower once people confirm more things missing.
Holy shit, this is terrible. I am starting to wish you had never bothered. Let’s hope Atlus pick up Yakuza 4 for release in the west, you clearly can’t handle it. With all the stuff that seems to be missing, you might aswell give everyone who bought a copy already a free ‘directors cut’ disc with a 100% complete (all of the above + anything else you have cut that no one has spotted yet) and translated game.
Posted by Adam on March 11th, 2010 at 5:05 pm”
Many good people here say it before that it’s not possible SEGA “just” cut 1 % from the original game.
How can a company be so incompetent to destroy a own awesome franchise?! SEGA, in the name of jesus christ stop the very bad sonic games once and for all and use the money instead for the FULL version of Yakuza 3.
Btw, I’ve invest my money in FF13. Good job SEGA.
Posted by Dragoon on March 24th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Comment # 831
I played part of the Okinawa part and ya….meeting the hostess in the Burger shop is kinda awkward……. put the rest of the content back in!
Posted by Kensan on March 24th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Comment # 832
Yeah… I think i’ll go to Smile Burger and pick up a hostess, wow… great idea SEGA, surely the time you spent on moving the hostesses to Smile Burger could’ve been used for OUR benefit. Oh and the clubs are still on the map legend, is that just to rub salt in the wound?? STUPIDITY
Posted by Menace on March 24th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Comment # 833
Yes that the clubs are still on the map is just to laugh about those who know the cuts and bought the game. Same goes for the persons that say “here take this and enjoy your hostess club” after you beat them up, it´s just to show you that even though you beated that punk almost to death, Sega still owned you.
And another thing i found stupid was the Part where you follow a character in an hostess club, so whats the point of cutting out the hostess club if you think we are to stupid to understand what they are?
And why are these guys clothed in white, that where giving out flyers for the Hostess clubs, still running after me and saying, “we give you a good rabatt”
Why are the MEB centers still in the Game? They are useless! Why are so many people in the game talking about Hostess Clubs if you don´t want the gamers to know what these Clubs are?
Why are they thinking that “foreigners” can´t enjoy a game like Yakuza 3? Why aren´t they giving any reply that gives an clear statement?
Why didn´t they Dub this game? I mean those people who really wouldn´t resonate with those things they felt “that wouldn´t resonate with the western audience” are exactly those who would have prefered a Dub version! Those who don´t like the Japanese Culture won´t like this title no matter how much you cut out of the game. You can´t translate an game and then just come up with some stupid excuse like “Foreigners wont understand/like this or that” and cut something out and who are they referring to by “no matter how foreign” anyway….
Posted by Samael on March 24th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Comment # 834
Just put it back to the game with a simple DLC, please? pretty please?
Posted by Jeff on March 24th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Comment # 835
I think Kazuma should be able to bang on the closed doors at the clubs that appear on the map or be able to pick up somthing and smash the signs with the pics of the hostesses on them.
Yeah I am glad its subtitled cause it just sounds cool when a yakuza starts rambling and cursing in Japanese but yeah if they dont think the game will resonate with westerners why didnt they just dub it.
Posted by Kensan on March 24th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Comment # 836
So let me get this straight.
You removed 2 side missions and other various minigames/interactions with hostesses from the game, and then has the audacity to tell U.S. gamers that we should buy it despite this. You tell us that we should be grateful that we’re getting the game in the states at all.
No, Sega. That is not acceptable. People don’t want to shell out their hard earned money to play with Japan’s leftovers. You claim that if sales suffer, they won’t bring another Yakuza to the U.S., essentially blaming the consumer for your own poor business direction. Well, I’m not playing the scapegoat here.
I have two copies of Yakuza 3, one for me and another for a friend, and unless I hear some kind of response from Sega to include this content as DLC, I’m just going to return them. Make no mistake. This is not because there isn’t a market. It’s because the game is a niche title, and since mostly only ardent fans or those interested in Japanese culture would pick it up, you’ve essentially doomed the title by neutering it.
Posted by Will on March 24th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Comment # 837
SEGA U SUCK! last thing i buyed from your company was shen mue 2 for x box because your localization SUCKS BIG DONKEY BALLS! Yakuza 1 only with english dub WTF?
But the tip of of the icberg is lieing about to cut just 2 things ,in the end it was 18% content that doesnt even have any conection to the host club and the quiz. The choice was yakuza 3 short or not at all outside japan.HAAAEEE?Didnt sell yakuza 2 like crazy?
Its like not making a sequel of a blockbuster movie and shit on the potential making big money.You lazy to translate?Aint you have enough branches in the world.Like the europeans with ther bad translations including wrong typing and black & white manuals that charge more for they game as the rest of the world?Wasnt supose all nextgen games had to have multilanguage?U relased the game much to late and then to lazy totranslate?
You satisfied with the japan sales even u selled the last titel good world wide?Didnt you want to show with this Series how beautyfull your japanese culture is? Doesnt it make no sense to cut content that was in the last two yakuzas and now not in the 3rd?(hostess bar) U Japanese dont let foreginers in your Hostess bars ucould at least let people expierience what its like if u could and what its like. My last word from me to you Sega:
EPIC FAIL! I never buy stuff from you again.Usucked with your console sales and ist just a matter of time when none wants to buy your games anymore. I only feel sorry for your employess that losing ther jobs because of your bad management.
Posted by pete on March 24th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Comment # 838
Sega never learn from past mistakes? I gave up buying
Posted by Edson on March 24th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Comment # 839
I was at a local GameStop and asked how much the trade-in value was for Yakuza 3 and it was $18. However, the trade in value was at $22 just 2 days before hand. Guess people must have trade in some copies to drop the trade in value. Amazon’s dropped from $37.50 to$33 in just recently.
Posted by Stan on March 24th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Comment # 840
In the future, to save costs for distribution, Sega should just generate a DLC which could be run with the Japanese version of the game… but we will be able to see English
As the Yakuza fan base is already a niche market, the product markets itself, so they save on marketing as well.
If they can do this for Yakuza 4… everyone will be happy… it’s win win
Posted by disappointed on March 25th, 2010 at 12:42 am
Comment # 841
ROCK STAR should tap this market, bigtime… they should start by sending some of their execs to check out the hostess clubs in Tokyo hahaha
Posted by disappointed on March 25th, 2010 at 12:44 am
Comment # 842
Iron Man 2: 30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 25th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Comment # 843
I like Yakuza game and I will buy it, but not buying a new one, I rather wait and buy a second hand one so Sega doesn’t make money from me. Damn you Seaga!
Posted by siu on March 25th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Comment # 844
If Sega had decided not to translate the game at all, we would at the very least have had the hope that some company would license it and give it a real release. I guess that can’t happen now. Time to learn Japanese if I want to play Yakuza 3, I guess.
Posted by a cool dude on March 26th, 2010 at 3:33 am
Comment # 845
I seriously hope someone at Sega reads this. Evey single one.
Posted by RagingBoar on March 26th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Comment # 846
It just didn’t resonate?
Cut content from the western version of Yakuza 3 includes:
-“Loser” (Japanese theme song by Eikichi Yazawa)
-Wooing women in hostess clubs
-Hostess managing
-Rina Ayukawa (one of the hostess girls)
-Mahjong mini-game
-Shogi mini-game
-Massage parlor mini-game
-Answer X Answer trivia game
-22 of the original 123 sub-missions
Source: http://www.thunderboltgames.com/reviews/article/yakuza-3-review-for-ps3.html
1% cut?! SEGA is beyond rediculous.
Posted by Dragoon on March 27th, 2010 at 2:58 am
Comment # 847
No buy, of ANY copy of the game until SEGA announces if DLC is coming or will be even possible. Money still held in check until then
Posted by fathamburger on March 27th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Comment # 848
Infinite Space: 30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 28th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Comment # 849
Here you go, a massive and ongoing list of what is cut.
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=322120
PLEASE PLEASE return all of the stuff that should have originally been in the game back!
Posted by Balrog on March 31st, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Comment # 850
I haven’t forgotten about this Sega… I’m still around… Day 25 without Yakuza 3 for me and I’m hanging in there with Bioshock 2 right now. Until the content is restored, I will make it my personal duty to see that the Sega’s reputation falls.
Here’s a clip by Mega64 over at the IGN:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5EW6fq07_c
Video blogs from YouTube about the content cut: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yakuza+3+content+cut&aq=f
I get more upset as each day goes by. 30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpg
Posted by Stan on April 3rd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Comment # 851
A month since it’s release date, no reponse to DLC, no nothing, shame on you SEGA.
Posted by Balrog on April 9th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Comment # 852
The only companies that truly does “fan service”:
2kGames: Bioshock series (leading up to B2, gave fans on the forum gifts such as splicer masks, etc) Very aware of how to brand.
Turn 10: Forza 3 (every month new DLC, gifted cars, etc)
ArcSystem/Aksys Games – Blazblue (the absolute BEST localization ever)
Posted by Liz on April 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Comment # 853
Day 32 without Yakuza 3 and I’m still playing Bioshock 2. I’m so glad I heard about the cut content before I made my final purchase, but luckily I was able to get my pre-order deposit back.
Sega is like the AIG insurance group; they take your money and just bath in it forgetting about where the money came from spending it on themselves.
Sonic 4: 30% less content! Brought to you by Sega.
Posted by Stan on April 10th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Comment # 854
I am very torn, I spent a couple years in Okinawa and immediately recognize Ryukyu City as Naha. The monorail, kokusai dori, the arcade of small shops, even the street that crosses where the railing overlooks the little stream that runs under it. So i scooped the game up. I was having fun until i found the Mahjong parlor and was unable to play it. At that time i looked up why i could not play it, and found the giant list of content cuts.
Now im much less interested in playing it, and considering returning it. Despite the nostalgia, the thought of paying the same price as when it was released in Japan, for anything less than the full content sickens me. Henceforth i will be checking any SEGA title for cut content before purchasing it. For the record, i have NEVER returned any ps3 game to date, or even sold one 2nd hand.
Yet, a simple release of DLC for the removed content (all of it preferred, but all of the minigames and hostess content and missions relating to them especially) would suffice.
The only cut i can “resonate” with is the trivia game. Every other cut is unacceptable.
Posted by Kyu on April 10th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Comment # 855
Alright Sega, gawdammit… you got perhaps a year from the launch of Yakuza 3 (preferably sooner) to announce that there will be a full Yakuza 3 game… I believe you’re all cooking something up back there on fixing this situation, but until then, I’m not going to even buy or play the game. I’m not going to play one incomplete version and a complete version a year later. It seems to be a trend in games like Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter IV coming out with remakes on discs. Both DLC and Yakuza 3 Uncut will absolve this mess you’re in that will taint Sega forever. But thinking you can just take out content and then put it back in later is fucked up. I certainly hope you all there at Sega aren’t following in this trend. I will continue to wait. Day 35 without Yakuza 3 here.
Conduit 2: 30% less content! Brought to you by Sega.
Posted by Stan on April 13th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Comment # 856
Any news, RubyEclipse? If you are still moderating the comments than you are for sure still reading them. A simple ‘not yet’ is cool. Something = better than nothing.
Posted by Samuela on April 14th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Comment # 857
“Ultimately, the choice that had to be made was either no Yakuza 3 in the west, or a version of the game that was almost exactly the same, but with a little less trivia.”
Bullshit… giving your fans an ultimatum… how about this for an ultimatum: A COMPLETE YAKUZA 3 OR NO $$$.
I vow to boycott Sega until this situation is rectified and hope Sega of America gets driven into the ground.
YAKUZA 3. 30% LESS CONTENT! BROUGHT TO YOU BY SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on April 15th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Comment # 858
This is not what I wanted for a western release…, if I wanted a cut game, I’d download a demo. Not pay premium price for a game that is completed (and cheaper) elsewhere.
Either announce the cut content as DLC or I spend my future 20$ on towards a retailer’s profits when the game hits a used rack.
Posted by ShadowflareXIII on April 16th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Comment # 859
Sega of America is either gawddamn lazy or trying to shun away their only Yakuza fan base. I can’t believe this. I’ve talked to a number of other fans of Yakuza that I’ve met via the internet and they’re all unaware the cut content. Unbelievable. Spread the word people.
Yakuza 3, 30% less content! Brought to you by Sega of America.jpg
Posted by Stan on April 18th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Comment # 860
How about this,
I’m not buying it unless its fixed…
I feel that an unfinished game is foreign to me and I feel uncomfortable buying something at full price and cheated on well over 30% of a game…if you were being up front..you would have listed EXACTLY what was cut from the game instead of him-hawing around with, ‘mostly this’ and ‘sorta that’.
I feel that this ‘massively’ sucks, and ‘ultimately’ even if this is fixed, I’d doubt I’d get it now anyway…
Side note: You used 4 executive buzzwords/phrases (read: con-man BS) in your speech….the bigger the excuse, the bigger the lie.
Posted by Black on April 19th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Comment # 861
I honestly don’t care about the cover art because that all the US & UK versions needs to distinguish themselves from the JPN version. But, thinking you all there at Sega can take out content and change them around is absolutely the worst possible thing you all at Sega have done. I’ve never advocated for anything else, not even politics. But Sega, you will be jeopardizing your position in the game industry. Let me remind your community team that the other blog is still ongoing:
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/03/10/yakuza-3-arrives-in-the-west-review-scores-soar/
Take a look at the forums too:
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=317410&page=10
Yakuza 3! 30% less content. Brought to you by SEGA.jpg
Posted by Stan on April 20th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Comment # 862
Ladies,
There are 2 real choices:
1- Keep telling SEGA you wont buy Yakuza 3. Brilliant idea. N/A sales will drop and SEGA will say “I told you they wouldnt buy it, they just dont understand us. Cancel Yakuza 4 N/A Distribution”
2- Or you can put your money where your mouth is. And since money is the international language that everyone understands (especially Big Business). And say something more constructive like:
“This is disappointing that you decided to edit the N/A version of Yakuza 3. Yakuza series is known for its authentic depiction of Japanese culture and locales and this is one of the biggest selling point of the game. To play a game without the japanese flavor would be similar to playing a ‘GTA – Japan’ title. What makes the Yakuza series popular in Japan is the same reason it’s popular in the states.” (I dont know, something like that).
(HINT: Dont pick choice 1)
And there you have it: Sound like a bunch of 9yr old cry babies with empty threats or sound like mature adults with money in your pockets. Money that you’ll give to SEGA if they provide us with:
a) DLC that would make Yakuza3 US exactly like Yakuza3 Jp
b) A Yakuza 4 with it’s ORIGINAL CONTENT in place – let the player decide what he wants to enjoy in the game.
BTW – I bought the game and am on the 2nd playthrough. Am I disappointed in the edit, ya. Guess what, by the title screen – I GOT OVER IT.
Posted by Exyll on April 21st, 2010 at 7:41 am
Comment # 863
Just what the crap you are talking about, we did bought the game but so what? Still not a single reply. Are you saying that the gamer should support the game be4 they could get the full game, are you meaning that your life and choice is control by the game developer?
WTF, they should be the one to make sure their game sells by having euff advertisment and full content that please the gamer to make them wan to buy the game and not us.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on April 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
Comment # 864
Yeah, I ignored comment 862. I read a couple lines there and was already lost. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe she’s trying to flame us? I can pick out some of the common English phrases like “put your money where your mouth is” (not that if I’ve heard this one before) and “empty threats?” Threats as in not buying the game? I still haven’t bought it. How is that empty. My signature JPEG? I’ve already begun. My yet-to-come personal video message? Money’s a factor, but it’ll happen, so hold your doubts… I guess Babelfish still has some kinks to work out for her. She’s free to say anything she wants, (even calling her fellow fans babies and ladies) just as I’m free to speak to the limit of the freedom we get here on this blog. Anyways… I’m going to continue…
Still no sign of Kenzan. If there’s even a future Sega game that I’m even remotely interested in, I’m just going to rent it. I swear on my life that if the said contents had not been removed, it would have been a instant buy for the month of March for me regardless of the other blockbuster titles. It was my absolute most anticipated game of the year 2010, not just for me, but also for my little brother (more fan than I am, outraged as well) who I bought a PS3 for to play online with me in Uncharted 2.
Whatevers… I know we are being heard… and I know if there were and plans… announcements can’t come too soon after the release of the game, Nevertheless, I’m still outraged.
We could use another public statement from the PR at Sega. It doesn’t have to be an announcement. Just say something in regards to the issue here. Come out , repeat what you said before if that’s what you need to do. Say “we hear you” or “we want to apologize once again, to all our Yakuza fans” to ease the anxiety.
Posted by Stan on April 22nd, 2010 at 8:52 am
Comment # 865
I heard a news from Kotaku where some SEGA employee got lay:
http://kotaku.com/5522373/seventy+four-sega-employees-restructured-out-of-their-jobs
But I don’t feel sorry because SEGA America is not doing such a good job on title like Yakuza3 here. Go fire those people who responsible to the cut contains and ignore customer request on putting it back to the game. Yes, they asked for it.
Posted by Jeff on April 22nd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Comment # 866
MGS4 was not the only reason I buy Playstation 3. I believed that Yakuza would continue it’s franchise beyond Yakuza 2 and I was right. I bought a PS3 knowing Yakuza 3 would be available eventually. Waited for Kenzan to come to the US, but never did (Capcom’s “Way of the Samurai 3″ can satisfy samurai fans too). Look, Final Fantasy XIII is a Japanese franchise and the fans know it, why the hell would they not consider Yakuza 3, those fans could have been Yakuza fans too. Whatevers… Now Yakuza 3 is practically not there anymore, it doesn’t exist to me… nor do I care if Yakuza 4 would ever come, why play Y4 if I hadn’t played Y3 yet…
Posted by Stan on April 23rd, 2010 at 9:00 am
Comment # 867
866 comments and SEGA DID NOT WILLING TO HEAR. So guys, do we need to march on to their office and wreak havoc there? What they did to us is solely a CRIME. And whoever did this to us after a year worthless waiting shall pay for it…
They aren’t willing to HEAR? why don’t we MAKE THEM HEAR and PAY
Posted by Nappy Febrianto on April 26th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Comment # 868
I just told another friend on my PSN list about the cut content…
I have to say, I don’t care about the uncreative box are or the translation…
So I went out and rented Yakuza 3 from the very few Hollywood Videos left around town… I’m at the Chapter 3 where you meet Eri… god… I’m really trying to enjoy the experience, but when I think back to the cut content. I just really can’t continue on and enjoy it. I’m sure this is just me.
“As Yakuza 3 nears ship, we’ll have lots more on the massive amount of things to do, see, and experience in the game – and truly, you’re in for one awesome ride. Until then!”
I want back my “awesome ride” that you said I’d be in for.
Posted by Stan on April 28th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Comment # 869
I wonder if some of the SEGA employees being layed off comes from some of us writing to Sega Japan and maybe we got noticed?
Posted by Kensan on April 29th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Comment # 870
You all wrote to Sega Japan?… I thought we were suppose to write to Sega USA… I’m confused…
Posted by Stan on April 29th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Comment # 871
# 869 – Nah. I think that if that were the case and someone over at Sega Japan was upset enough over the cut content that someone got fired over it they would have already made a public statement to the western fans apologizing for the cuts or something. It’s an independent incident that I don’t think pertains to any of this. And I highly doubt that neither Sega Japan or the creators of the game know nothing about the cuts. Pains me to say this but we need to accept the fact that nothing is gonna be done about this. Nada. No one but us cares…sad as it may be
Posted by Sammie on April 29th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Comment # 872
here’s something Sega should take a look at, it’s an interesting podcast that I tune in to weekly; starts at about 12:06 time into the podcast:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-105-invisible-walls/65171
I thought it was strange there was no mention of the Yakuza 3 shit that was pulled by Sega… but then again, the only advertisement I saw for Yakuza 3 were the game ads before a trailer plays, and guess what? The ad still didn’t push me to buy the game, because I already knew that contents was taken out.
Posted by Stan on May 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 am
Comment # 873
So sega is just a lame… seeing how I have a game that I just can’t enjoy playing… I only played the game for a few hours looking ffor the hostess club to lern its not in it… so I decided to wait thinking there will be an add on…. so I stopped playing the game… it just collects dust… what a waste of money. I knew i should have just imported the game when it first came out. I dont care anymore screw you sega… lazy company. Well I guess I have to settle with just Yakuza 2 and pretend 3 was never made.
Posted by Alexia on May 6th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Comment # 874
Yeap! I know just how you feel #873… I rented it for a week and played it up to chapter 3 and I don’t even want to bother continuing, retunred it on day 2 even though I was able to keep it for up to a 5 days… I can’t shake the inner feeling that I was robbed of my content and that I have to rob Sega back… this feeling goes on throughout the whole time I played which saturates the whole experience… gawddamnit
Posted by Stan on May 8th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Comment # 875
#872
The review from gametrailers also doesn’t mention one single word about the cuts in the western version. Why? Because they got money from SEGA to shut up about this topic.
And SEGA, about your butchery of Yakuza 3. We won’t forget that.
Posted by Dragoon on May 10th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Comment # 876
I think I’ve lost all interest in this franchise which I never thought I would ever. For all I’m concerned, Yakuza 3 is like [Shenmue 3, Kunoichi/Nightshade, Devil May Cry 2], it doesn’t exist to me… there’s your customer feedback there, Sega. No point for me going on to Yakuza 4 for me.
Posted by Stan on May 12th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Comment # 877
I actually pre-order and bought Yakuza 3 during its release. It was fun and i really enjoyed it but the cut of Mahjong puts a damper for me ( Yes, i’m Asian and yes, i do play Mahjong for fun).
Bottom line is, if you EVER decide to “release” a Yakuza 4 in US, don’t cut anything out. Perhaps the Hostess bar tho, cause i never get into that whole ” pay for company” bullshit.
Posted by This Guy on May 17th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Comment # 878
I was just playing Yakuza2 today, since I am replaying it before I play the thrid. And, while playing sub missions like the adam host club and others, I can’t understand what would move Sega to cut the stuff from the game that makes it so good. I mean, yeah, goign aroun’ following the awesome story and beationg people in incredible and neat ways is really fun, but it feels like the series die a bit in the inside if things like the hostess and some mission are ripped off, when the first two games had it and there was no problem. Really Sega, something needs to be done. It’s liek, you got a few goos franchises alive, but you guys from Sega are working hard to destroy them. Yo are finsihed with Sonic, you pusehd aside making Shenmue 3, and now it’s Yakuza 3 on the west? How that makes any sense to a video game cxompany.
Fix up this mess, Sega. Yakuza and Yakuza fnas deserve to be treated well, after so much faith was put on you all.
Posted by Jordi Arbos on May 18th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Comment # 879
I sure hope a fix is on the way… but just in case, pull your share holdings out for Sega stocks if your have any (too late by now if you bid early April)… it would be wise, their charts fell since late April (ironic seeing the “dark cloud cover” pattern depending on how you look at the chart) which is probably due to all their layoffs, but I can’t help but wonder if the layoffs were factored by crap like IM2, VC2, crappy Bayonetta port, Y3 cut content, etc.
Posted by Stan on May 19th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Comment # 880
I really don’t believe that SEGA will fix the cut content of Y3. Don’t forget, until today not a single comment from them on this topic.
Posted by Dragoon on June 1st, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Comment # 881
# 880 – Agreed. But we are gonna get Y4…
Posted by Denise on June 8th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Comment # 882
and still no Kenzan! in sight
Posted by Stan on June 8th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Comment # 883
do you have yakuza 3 for ps2,cuz i didt”n HAve PS3.
Posted by jun on June 10th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Comment # 884
Cool,happy to hear that. Can’t wait for it to come out ! Thanks guys
Posted by iosomewhere on June 17th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Comment # 885
OMG !!! …
YAKUZA 3
!@(*^$@&*#@
how to enjoy the game if u cut something ..
Please Be Fair …
If something like this happen how can we support you ..
We all Dude … all grow up …
Posted by Opie on July 29th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Comment # 886
i am not even sure that my comment will be taken into consideration or not by SEGA.First of all please please and again please bring us to west (ENG-SUB) YAKUZA KENZAN.İ and many of the fans of the YAKUZA series in the west still can’t understand the logic about not to release YAKUZA KENZAN for west.As for myself, i own all yakuza series and impatiently waiting for YAKUZA 4 for west.No doubt that there will never be a marketing or sale problem for YAKUZA KENZAN in west.İ am sure that as my name.Every time i am typing the name of KENZAN with hope in google toolbar whether is there a hope for western release or not for YAKUZA KENZAN.İ am from Turkey and there are thousands of YAKUZA fans in here and they may die for KENZAN’s release in west.Just please at least a try it SEGA we have always trusted you and we expect you to trust us.sorry for my bad english.
Posted by Baran on August 7th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Comment # 887
While I understand that the aspects of the trivia game and hostess clubs may not appeal to the western market, CENSORING your product is not the way to go. Time constraints? Right… So you say you left in most of the content but had to cut out that 1% due to time constraints?
Do not buy censored products. I was really excited for this, it’s a shame I’ll have to pass.
Posted by ConcernedCitizen on August 10th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Comment # 888
i have to say i dont mind the cuts in all honesty, yes I’d prefer they were not cut but they wre and its still an enjoyable game. From ost of the cmplaints just sounds like a bunch of guys who need hang around their real girlfriends more, that way the cutting of hostess clubs wont be so bothering
Posted by Leon on August 18th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Comment # 889
Disappointing. Considering it’s a niche title, the game should be full. I hate these differences between the Japanese and Rest of the World versions. I hope the same mistake is not made in the following games. I still appreciate it’s getting localized, but these decisions don’t make sense.
Posted by Reaper on October 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Comment # 890
I am still waiting for the patch to unlock the censored areas of the game!!! I can play it in the Japanese version I have but my non-Japanese speaking friends can’t enjoy it so
DO IT!
Posted by Kensan on November 4th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Comment # 891
SERIOUSLY! SEGA IS MAKING A VERY BIG MISTAKE FOR REMOVING THE CONTENTS! BY DOING THIS, SEGA IS GONNA LOSE MANY MANY CUSTOMERS! PUT THE GOD DAMNED HOSTESS BACK IN YAKUZA 4 !
Posted by Kami on November 8th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Comment # 892
DW PPL CHUCK NORRIS IS EQUALLY MAD. IM SURE A ROUND HOUSE WOULD BE COMING ON SOMEONES FACE.
Posted by Yakuza3Fan..Not on November 9th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Comment # 893
Sega of America FAIL.
Posted by Balrog on December 20th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Comment # 894
I bought the game… i went to the mahjong parlor… i went to return the game.
Sega, don’t screw it up next time. also need to upgrade those graphics and cut scenes that turn to text half way though…..
Yakuza 4, fingers crossed you come out right
Posted by Disappointed Fan on January 13th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Comment # 895
hah buying this used at gamestop for 25 bucks, pleasure doing business with you sega, if the content wasn’t cut i would have bought it day 1…but alas
oh well not like i care its a hell of a game for 25 bucks X3
Posted by Justin on February 15th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Comment # 896
# 881 – Yeah, Yakuza4 is coming to the west territory. Let’s see if SEGA have learned their lesson from their big fail with the butchered Yakuza3.
Btw, in the meantime I borrowed the japanese version of Y3 from my brother. 1% cut?!! You can’t make this stuff up! DON’T LIE EVER AGAIN, Sega!
Posted by Dragoon on March 7th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Comment # 897
@881
More like 50%!
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?322120-Full-list-of-cut-content
Posted by Balrog on March 8th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Comment # 898
Thank you for your blog post.Much thanks again. Really Great.
Posted by Cindy Farber on February 3rd, 2012 at 5:17 am