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Wednesday Mar 10, 2010
Yakuza 3 arrives in the west, review scores soarAs Yakuza 3 makes its way into the homes of thousands of fans worldwide, we’d like to take a moment to thank the people who helped it get there – you guys. Lessons learned, and support given“If there’s one thing about Yakuza that these last few months have taught people,” I thought as I sat at lunch on Monday, “It’s that the fans are a force to take seriously…usually.” Fans can be the biggest allies and proponents of games that may not be the huge, multi-million sellers like (insert generic FPS here), or (insert additional generic FPS here). They can create amazing successes for games that were never expected to have them – looking at you, Valkyria Chronicles – and they can just as easily do the opposite, in some cases. But more than anything, most fans just want to be heard. Fans want interaction, and to be responded to. So let’s begin this blog post by jumping right in to one of the biggest things fans have been asking about: the content.
Yakuza 3 is huge. Besides exploring Tokyo and Okinawa, you can also visit restaurants, pick up ramen at a local convenience store, go golfing, bowling, fishing, karaoke, or bust some heads in a local street fight. As someone who enjoyed Shenmue, my love for Yakuza grows in knowing that some of the people who developed the original Shenmue games also work on Yakuza now. The similarity in feel between the two is no coincidence – and the epic feel of exploration, and Japanese culture, that the game offers are things you won’t find anywhere else. I’m also a big fan of playing darts while drunk – the extra level of difficulty is quite entertaining, besides being notably safer in Yakuza 3’s virtual world than it is in real life. (Note: I do not condone playing Darts while intoxicated. You’ll probably take someone’s eye out.) Also, we’d like to make special note that while not everything from the Japanese version made it to the western shores, our community team has been – and will be– reading, compiling, and passing all of that feedback upwards here at SEGA. I can’t say more than that presently, but know that you are being heard, and we’ll make sure of that for you. To clarify additionally, as has been mentioned: Hostesses are in the game, and you can take them out on dates, build relationships, and sing karaoke with them to your heart’s content. The first reviews for the game have also started coming in – and they’re looking fantastic. Thus far, some of the most notable:
As Yakuza goes out the door and into the homes of hundreds of thousands of fans, I’d also like to take a moment to give some thanks to the people that really deserve it – and that’s you guys. It goes to the people who pushed from the beginning to show SEGA how much they wanted this game here. To those who post in the comments sections encouraging us, offering bright and helpful viewpoints even when the going got rough. And finally, to those who continue to support this PS3 exclusive by picking up the game, and in doing so give the franchise the legs on which to stand. Know that we appreciate the support so many of you have already given to this series – and that we are now, and will continue to listen to your feedback. That said – here’s to Yakuza 3!
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Comment # 1
Well, that’s great for Sega, I guess. I hope all the critical acclaim combined with the fan outcry convinces the people in charge to put the gears in motion to translate the missing parts of the game. Then, and only then, will I buy a copy. I know I’m far from alone on this one.
Posted by Jacky on March 10th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Comment # 2
Thanks for continuously spitting in our face! We are very grateful for the censored version or any version!
Posted by Spacecity on March 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Comment # 3
I think most of us already knew about the hostess parts you mentioned ruby. Most people aren’t happy about the fact the cuts towards the game was announced 2 weeks before the release and it seems nothing would have come up unless IGN probed sega. Plus the excuse and that Sega weren’t truthful for all the cuts.
For one I can’t see how this game can’t be a sucess hence the nagging about us bringing it over and plus how well the reception of the game was in Japan. The scores would have been higher if Sega wasn’t so lazy in terms of bringing it over here (out dated graphics) plus more voices (huge walls of text) =p.
I came across a interesting post in the forums
http://forums.sega.com/showpost.php?p=5651416&postcount=15
It is not like I don’t agree with that post with regards of the worry bringing yakuza 3 over here but seriously I personally think Sega is more at fault too. One reason is because of how they marketed the 1st 2 games in the first place, bad sells was because of this, I didn’t know about this series until I rented the game out at the time cuz I was bored =p. Another reason this is like 2010, not back at the time when yakuza 1 was released hence methods of advertising are more efficient and cheap through the internet (reviews, blogs, etc), PSN demos (how could people not miss this) and this is a also a exclusive (meaning more of a impact for sells on a PS3). Also Eurogamer review is a import review so at least the Sega rep could have looked at similar stuff so personally I feel their worrying is like a waste of effort for a sure success (probably greater than valkyria chronicles, I think brawling or fighters appeals more to westerners as well as FPS more than rpgs) like this.
Hopefully this makes sense =p
Posted by anomalous on March 10th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Comment # 4
Hey Ruby, I’m enjoying the game so far…I love how real many of the relationships feel and I’m about five hours into it.
I trust that you guys brought the fan ire to the higher-ups knowing that you guys love SEGA games as much as the fans do – because you are fans.
Hopefully, we can look forward to an uncut Yakuza 4. I purchased my copy on day one in hopes that next one will come. Congrats on the positive reviews so far.
Posted by DJ Fob Fresh on March 10th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Comment # 5
Oh P.S. I like how you glossed over again how MAHJONG and SHOGI AND EROTIC MASSAGE GAME ARE OUT! How do erotic massages not resonate with americans!??? ESPECIALLY transvestite asian erotic masseuses. I dunno if you’ve ever been to Houston or not buddy but this city is covered in erotic massage parlors on every corner who will wax you sucky sucky and whatnot ..ya’ll know the jokes….I GUARANTEE YOU that shit would resonate with the people down here…..shit prolly in Arizona too..
Posted by Spacecity on March 10th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Comment # 6
Well its great Yakuza came here, but it sucks… out dated graphics and running feels like an arcade and too much text (this isn’t nintendo) japan should learn something from other creators [cough: (uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain)] All bashing aside I will get this game of course, why? Only because creators of Shenmue touched it. Lets forget Yakuza and lets talk about Shenmue here. Fans? I honestly haven’t seen fan power stronger for any game other than shenmue and sega knows it. AND WE ARE STILL AROUND AFTER 11 years. We want SHENMUE 3! <— Listen to these fans. Lets see if you guys really listen. Sega 4ever
Posted by Karim Metwaly on March 10th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Comment # 7
Still no full list of cuts I see. Hundreds of thousands of homes is a bit optimistic after all this cut content furore. What’s taking so long to tell us what was removed? What’s taking so long to promise us the return of this content? We want proper answers, not vague skirting around the issue with “look whats still in the game” statements. I hope everyone who has been angered by this will continue to post comments and fill the forums with complaints about this until something is done.
Posted by Adam on March 10th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Comment # 8
Hi Sega,
Just want to say Thank you that Yakuza 3 is finally out. I have played the first and second one and big fans of this game. You made my day!
Cheers,
Allen
Posted by Allen Chiu on March 10th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Comment # 9
Yes you are right! The great support that all of those fans have used to get the game to the west, I clap and hail them, I am jealous over the fact that I was not able to be there to help, BUT I am here NOW.
STOP HIDING YOURSELF BEHIND COMPLIMENTS TO THE FAN AND LIES ABOUT LISTENING TO US! You are not listening to us, you are not hearing us, if you were then you (sega) would have the BALLS! to respond about the cut content fact to us, and not just stating the obvious.
Also stop saying that the Hostesses are still in the game, and start find excuses to why you left out, massage parlor, songs and music, sidestories, Mahjong, Shogi, Being a Host and all the rest you have not mentioned that you cut. Oh and I know what is cut by the way.
I CHALLANGE SEGA TO SHOW SOME DIGNITY AND COURAGE!!
IF THE NEXT BLOG MESSAGE HAS NOTHIN TO DO ON THE CUT CONTENT AND HOW TO RESOLVE IT I DECLARE ALLL! OF SEGA PUSSSIES!
Peace out!
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 10th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Comment # 10
You do relise that you are an hypocrit. Listened to the fan?
I have now seen over thousand comments all about the cut content, they appear on the posts that has nothing to do with the yakuza game and you are telling us that you have listened!
You sir have just insulted all of those fans who wanted to bring yakuza 3 to the west, you have insulted Dragondojima14 or 17 by showing of an interview you guys made with him, while he still has asked to get his plague back. You have ridiculed the west by stating that they are not going to RESONATE well with certain content, you have dishonored the hard work of the game developing team behind yakuza 3 by leaving out their content, you have lied to the fans by stating that all of the content will remain from when it was anounced that sega would release Yakuza 3 to the west, you have sold an incomplete product by removing completed content (which is by the way ILLEGAL). You sell a product that you Market on the new western yakuza site as the quote ‘True and Auhentic feeling of the yakuza world” Another Quote ‘ Ykuza 3 offers an unprecendented level of exploration and interraction not seen in the franchise before’ You forgot the part where you removed that content for the west.
You market a site and tell lies on what to get in the game and sell something that are missing these things, you are using videos of the cut content to encourage people to buy Yakuza 3 and you are in violation of the consumers right law.
Sir, I just hope for your sake and Sega’s that there are no one out here that is smart enough to sue you Because you have given them a SLAM DUNK.
Posted by MR GOH on March 10th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Comment # 11
Thanks Ruby and all you guys at Sega!
I got my copy of the game in the afternoon and am just glad that this game came to the West at least. Ever since I heard about Yakuza 3 having a slim chance of coming, I got down, but thanks to people in the community like dragonofdojima and others, we finally got our game
!!!
As much as it sucks to have content cut out of our release, we at least have the game here.
Ruby, I appreciate you helping us by forwarding our comments to the “higher-ups” and HOPEFULLY get back that content as a patch later or DLC sometime in the future.
Posted by MeanBob on March 10th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Comment # 12
I digging this cover, this is what the cover should have looked like
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=319699
I’m slapping this on my copy plus make a note sega that your localised cover designs are getting worse, especially for yakuza 3 <_<
Posted by anomalous on March 10th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Comment # 13
If this is passed to the higher ups at Sega then I just want to say Sega should hire more competent project managers that can schedule enough time, not assume the public would appreciate cut/censored content and most importantly not set games to released alongside other big game releases. What the hell is wrong with you people?
Posted by smiley o'brien on March 10th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Comment # 14
^ thanks to the guy that made that by the way ^_^
Posted by anomalous on March 10th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Comment # 15
**** YOU SEGA
Posted by fhfhfh on March 10th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Comment # 16
Such a shame, I don’t blame the community managers at all since they’re not the one responsible for the cut content or the ill conceived release date rushing. However not buying the game is the best way to be “heard”
Needless to say there are plenty of releases to keep your time before most people would want to buy this game.
Posted by zoglog on March 10th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Comment # 17
Yakuza is the closest thing left to Shenmue in gaming, I
Posted by Shuya on March 10th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Comment # 18
SEGA, you know the cuts made to Yakuza 3 really don’t seem to be resonating with western fans. Maybe you should do something about that?
Posted by mirumu on March 10th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Comment # 19
Well I’m sorry SEGA, but this is still unacceptable. No honest information regarding exactly what was cut and no reply as to what is being about about what was cut, considering the exorbitant outcry from fans, leaves me with a foul taste in my mouth and now it seems that I will have to think very hard about supporting SEGA for anything at all in the future. I’m sure as Hell not buying Yakuza 3, regardless of review scores, until the cut content has been restored to the game.
I’m not trying to shoot the messenger, RubyEclipse, but this bullshit needs to taken to the SEGA heads with great urgency (AGAIN!!!) because it seems that they’re not getting the damn message.
Posted by Kurt on March 10th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Comment # 20
@anomalous
Awesome Cover!
Posted by DJ Fob Fresh on March 10th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Comment # 21
I’m getting this instead of Final fantasy XIII (though I’m sure I’m in the minority, that release date was a very bad idea …), once again thank you for making this happen it’s nice to see the spirit of Shenmue live on.
That being said finding out that you cut out even more than originally stated in the blog after reading the Eurogamer review is just terrible (Mahjong & Shogi gone aswell why?).
You said it yourself fans can help games like this become successful (ala Valkyria chronicles or Persona 3) or the complete opposite so be reasonable with us here and help us help you.
Please bring back the original content that was lost in translation via download on PSN, surely if you can throw money away at rubbish like Iron man you can afford to translate subtitles for one of your truly best properties in years.
Posted by Shuya on March 10th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Comment # 22
I hope everyone understands that this isn’t Ruby’s or any of the other community teams fault that the hostess stuff was cut. I’m pretty sure they’re just as passionate as the rest of us. Remember, they can’t directly tell sega they’re a bunch of idiots. That’s like walking into your bosses office and calling him a jerk-off because he decided to buy glazed donuts and not jelly for the lunch room. Really guys, everyone should slow down on the cursing.Btw, Yakuza 3′s story is just as emotional as the first two.
Posted by Seven5 on March 10th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Comment # 23
@Seven5:
We know it’s not RubyEclipse’s fault that this issue is unresolved. But your analogy is slightly incorrect: It’s not like calling him a jerk-off because he decided to buy glazed donuts and not jelly for the lunch room, it’s like calling him a jerk-off because all the donuts had a section cut out of them so you don’t get a full donut.
The point here is that people are furious that they have to pay full retail price for a game that is incomplete. It’s as simple as that.
Posted by Kurt on March 10th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Comment # 24
This is Useless… they don’t mind what you think, sega assholes
Posted by Treasurefan on March 10th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Comment # 25
“Hostesses are in the game, and you can take them out on dates, build relationships, and sing karaoke with them to your heart’s content.”
DATING HOSTESSES WERE NOT THE FREAKING ISSUE, EVER. It was the conversations in the clubs (+gifts etc), managing, massage parlors and Shogi… and for me: MAHJONG. How can you cut that? You already translated the rule sheet for Yakuza 2. Damn… whatever.
Posted by KKiryu on March 10th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Comment # 26
I got my copy today, and I’m loving it. The graphics look sweet to me. Remember the last Yakuza game here was for ps2. So this is a huge upgrade. It’s bigger, and much more to do. Ass beating central. Yakuza owns! Bring on 4!!
Posted by randall on March 10th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Comment # 27
I was looking forward to the Mahjong too, amongst other things.
I’m glad that at least it’s been acknowledged that we’re being heard, so thank you team!
Posted by Ronald on March 10th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Comment # 28
When Sega puts the content back, then I’ll support it. No way, I’m gonna buy an incomplete game. Sega, you can end this.
Posted by Dean on March 10th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Comment # 29
SEGA, you disappoint me. Not only did you cut Hostess bar, Trivia game, Shogi, and Mahjong, you actually cut some of the SIDEQUESTS out?!?! This is not 1% that you said was cut. This is ridiculous! I love the Yakuza series but I cannot believe this is how you treat it here in the West with this watered down and half finished product.
Posted by J.T. on March 11th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Comment # 30
-Shogi has been removed.
-Mahjong has been removed.
-The trivia game Answer X Answer has been removed.
-Massage parlors have been removed.
-You can no longer go on paid dates with hostess girls.
-You can no longer manage a hostess club.
-You can no longer find girls to employ as hostesses and customize them, since you no longer manage a hostess club.
Oh and gues what they have also cut alot of the side missions and I have only got to chapter 4, Ruby I want someone from SEGA’s head on a plate, we are owed some form of explanation. SEGA have been deceptive and conned us.
Posted by Tim on March 11th, 2010 at 12:33 am
Comment # 31
You should be thanking your fans for buying a game with cut content. Too bad I won’t be buying the US release of Yakuza 3. I love the Series, but I hate you Sega of America. You guys are seriously the worst of the worst when it comes to localization. I thought we had it bad in the 90′s, but man it’s 2010, and you guys show time and time again, that you just don’t care about your fans or even your own IP’s. This game is going to be a failure, and you have yourselves to blame, and not the fans this time.
When will you learn. smh
Posted by Tom on March 11th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Comment # 32
What means, Lesson learned and Support given???
Until there is no News that say: Lost Content comes back to Y3 there is absolutley no buy for me and my neighborhood.
Please Community Managers, make the last push for us! You are allies not enemies! Bring us back the Real Deal!
Posted by His0ka on March 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am
Comment # 33
“The following quests were cut because they were deemed unsuitable the the Western audience.
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
So around 9/40 of the quests were cut for chapter 3-4″
- kilika829
I guess sega just enjoys lying to their hardcore fans. This really pisses me off Sega.
Also glad you guys like the alternate NA cover. Like I said in the forum post if someone can get me some good high res art of the american version boxart I’ll do it up asap without the french
Posted by Deekman on March 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Comment # 34
Also how about thanking the fans that even though they post on here about your cut content and constant lying and misinformation bought the game anyway. You gonna thank us?
Posted by Deekman on March 11th, 2010 at 12:54 am
Comment # 35
Hey! Deekman,
If all this:
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
really has been cut then that’s so disappointing, so much for just a few cuts, I’ve been wanting Yakuza 3 to come out in Europe for ages and once it was finally confirmed it was on it’s way I was delighted, but all these above cuts really take the shine off of what would easily have been one of my favourite games this year.
Listen! up SEGA, there is no good reason/excuse for cutting all this stuff out, it’s simply not good enough, PLEASE! put this right by making the above cut content avaliable for download on the PS Store as soon as possible, surely if you take this route then no one will be offended by this content as only customers who want this content in the game will download it, surely this is now the way forward and the sensible option?
SEGA, put things right!
RJB
Posted by RJB on March 11th, 2010 at 1:11 am
Comment # 36
Good job on being up front about the cuts! Little less trivia, doesn’t affect the story my ass.
You owe us an apology for you lies if nothing else.
Posted by Velsper on March 11th, 2010 at 1:20 am
Comment # 37
@ Deekman’s list
This is just… I cannot find any words. If this is true… hooolyy crap.
Posted by KKiryu on March 11th, 2010 at 2:02 am
Comment # 38
If all those side quests listed as cut are true, I am even more disappointed, it’s not just ‘a bit less trivia’ if a load of side missions are cut too, even if they are related to the other cut content and mini games that are now missing. Also, apparently these are just from chapter 3 and 4. I don’t know how many chapters there are in the game, but what if all the future ones have missions and stuff missing? This is even more awful then before and SEGA tried to cover it up by saying that only 1% of the games content was removed, just hostess management was not believable. Then we find out there is no mahjong and shoji or the main theme song, but SEGA still tell us not much is gone. How can they continue to lie when they know people will post cuts they find all over the internet? If the above is true, then I will ditch SEGA forever if they continue to lie now that we know a lot of side missions are gone.
I am not sure if SEGA could ever just patch the game, or release DLC to put it back in now, as the download would probably be massive. I guess this is going to remain a no-buy for me. Just aswell I have the Japanese version with everything still intact.
Posted by Adam on March 11th, 2010 at 3:14 am
Comment # 39
the massage parlors have been removed as well!! what is the excuse for that. surely there was not much text to translate in those sections. this defies belief. i think the real explanation is that sega removed some of the more odd and quirky elements because they were afraid that a more cynical western audience would ridicule the game and not take it seriously, especially reviewers. this proves the authenticity of the whole ‘resonate’ excuse, which they have tried to back down from ever since. i suppose i can understand their concerns in a way, but the main attraction of the game for fans lobbying the western release was the very fact that the game was odd and quirky. i think your right that many Shenmue fans migrated their loyalty to the yakuza series, but the mishandling of both franchises is appalling. at least apologize to fans by announcing hostess club dlc
SEGA PLEASE RELEASE YAKUZA 4 in west WITH NO CUT CONTENT.
WESTERN KENZAN RELEASE WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL, NO CUT CONTENT.
BUT MOST OF ALL…. MAKE SHENMUE 3 AND MAKE SURE YU SUZUKI DIRECTS IT.
have you all seen this yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5EW6fq07_c
Posted by john on March 11th, 2010 at 3:38 am
Comment # 40
You guys at Sega just can’t say ‘sorry’, can you?
I don’t care how much there is to do in Yakuza 3, the fact is that you guys cut a whole lot of content from the US/EU release and didn’t mention this to the fans until two weeks prior to release, when you had been caught out by an IGN interviewer.
Even now, you still haven’t provied a full list of the cuts. I’m now hearing from people that own the game that alot of sidequests are cut, too. You led us us to believe only the hostess bars and the trivia game were removed. We had to figure out that the minigames like mahjong and shogi were taken out ourselves. And now this! More cuts!!
If you guys had been honest about the cuts from the start, you could have avoided this massive fan backlash.
People have been supporting you buy buying Yakuza 3. Now why don’t you support them by restoring the removed content via patch or free DLC?
Posted by Silly Skeleton on March 11th, 2010 at 3:38 am
Comment # 41
haha did you read amazon?
they say in the features “open a hostess club”.
They even lie in product describtion
Posted by haha on March 11th, 2010 at 3:47 am
Comment # 42
Look SEGA, we want an answer to this question: Will you consider returning the cut content to the western version via a patch/dlc ? Please answer either a definite “NO, never” or “YES, we are looking into in”
And what about all the incomplete elements in the official Yakuza 3 website ?
Characters (Coming soon)
Live Action Episodes (Coming soon)
Downloads (Coming soon)
The game is already out, did you also “cut” these elements from the website too ?
Posted by Snoop on March 11th, 2010 at 3:59 am
Comment # 43
ok i hoped for an clear answer but this is….. almost nothing….
well again thanks for trying, i still will buy the game (i´m from europe) and hope you guys will add the extra content as DLC since thats the only way to regain the trust of your fans.
I hope we will get a clear answer soon and you will bring Yakuza 4 without any cuts….
Posted by Samael on March 11th, 2010 at 4:52 am
Comment # 44
Btw. Has anyone contacted Kotaku or some other gaming sites about that list? I mean, we can’t get any answers from Sega, but maybe they can. And will there be any more (un)pleasant surprises?
Posted by KKiryu on March 11th, 2010 at 5:18 am
Comment # 45
Hey
Can’t wait for this game – cuts suck but I live in hope that they can be localised and restored for a relatively low cost. My question is the pre-order bonus of extra costumes and 2 player minigames for those of you in the US buying from gamestop etc – will this content be available to everyone eventually as DLC ?
Would seem a good way to reward us in the UK and the US who are buying the game who do not have access to this content through gamestop preordering.
Any info on this Ruby?
Cheers
Posted by Catseyez on March 11th, 2010 at 5:19 am
Comment # 46
Looking at those first review scores it just makes you wonder how highly the game would have been scored/rated if it had not been cut to bits.
I still can’t believe SEGA have done this, talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
I think this could/would have been the first Yakuza game to really sell well in Europe & the US if it was not for all the cuts, no one likes cuts being made to a game, especially when it’s so unnecessary.
Wish SEGA would come out and confirm the cuts will be put back in the game via DLC.
Posted by RJB on March 11th, 2010 at 5:36 am
Comment # 47
This is getting asinine at this point….getting kicked in the nuts with new cuts on a near daily basis is pretty goddamn stupid SEGA. Don’t get me wrong, I still bought three copies.
But I’ve said it before and I’ll say it till I’m blue in the goddamn face. RELEASE IT AS DLC!!
Posted by Kazahashi on March 11th, 2010 at 6:42 am
Comment # 48
Hey Sega everyday its more hard to me to not cancel the preorder.
I’m glad the game its here , but damn that’s so many more cuts in this game.
Posted by Oxvial on March 11th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Comment # 49
Thanks SEGA for bringing the game to us… I got the game today and so far I’m having a great fun… as for the people who are crying over the cut content please just stop and enjoy what you have otherwise go play the JAP version… SEGA keep up the good work and role on VF5 FS…
Posted by Meshaal on March 11th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Comment # 50
good work? 9 sidequests from chapters 3/4 are missing and Sega get praised for good work?
hahaha
Posted by omg on March 11th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Comment # 51
Not bad Sega, you cut so much out of the game you’ve got people begging for DLC. Don’t pretend that wasn’t the plan all along, we all know half the stuff you cut didn’t require much translation; you probably spent more removing it than you saved.
All the good will Sega got from me for doing a decent localization of Yakuza 2 and Valkyria Chronicles is now gone. I am not buying Valkyria Chronicles 2 (not thrilled about a PSP version, but was going to buy it to support the team), and Yakuza 4 will have to wait until after it’s released so I know what is and is not in the game. I’m an old Sonic fan, was looking forward to Sonic 4, but after this, forget it.
So that’s pretty much it for games I’ll ever buy from Sega.
Posted by androvsky on March 11th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Comment # 52
Some of you people are so ungrateful..
I for one will be giving SEGA some of my hard earned cash for a copy tomorrow despite not having played a Yazuka game before or particularly wanting to play one now just to make up for some of you whingers holding off because of some inconsequential Hostess bar action.
How about going outside for a bit and interacting with some nice ladies in Real Life™.. Maybe then Yazuka 3 will be less of a worry for you.
Posted by Bob on March 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Comment # 53
epic fail…..sega…..yakuza 3….
Posted by navin on March 11th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Comment # 54
why is my comment still “awaiting moderation” even if later comments are appearing ??
Posted by Snoop on March 11th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Comment # 55
You haven’t learnt any lessons. You never will. I imagine SEGA will screw up Sonic 4 somehow (already thinking it’s a stupid idea to make it episodic, it will break the flow of the game).
We want a concrete, solid, informative announcement about what has been cut (all of it, every side mission, mini game, product/item inventory piece, music, everything). Then we want to hear that you plan on giving us this content back for free as soon as possible. All of it. Including the history quiz.
Posted by Adam on March 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Comment # 56
You re a lier Ruby…
What lesson have you learned at Sega ? There is more cut in Yakuza 3 than you said before it’s not just hostess club and quizz, there s more than that (wheres some of the side quest, mahjong, shogi, massage parlor etc ?)
And NO hostess club isn’t in the game, I don’t care if the hostess themselves are for the mini games, I wanted the hostess club with all the discussions and dating sim.
At Sega you never learn anything, your fans are just shit and you don’t respect them.
IF YOU SO CARE ABOUT US AND HEAR US, GIVE US THE MISSING CONTENT ON A FREE DLC, OTHERWISE THINGS WILL BE CLEAR…..
Posted by Seishoujyo on March 11th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Comment # 57
They wont listen to the individuals I wonder how many out there ARE upset over the cuts? Get an official count on how many people want the taken out parts?
I sold ALL my SEGA stock the day I saw they cut the content. I wont support a company by investing in an organization that doesnt listen to its market OR appoint people in their overseas branches who are not able to see what the PEOPLE want over what they THINK we want.
Posted by Kensan on March 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Comment # 58
Hey everyone,
Some responses to the comments:
DJFobFresh – Glad you’re liking it. We’ve made sure that people are aware of the fans’ thoughts about the content. It’s a tough spot to be in sometimes, because our power stops there and the ball passes out of our hands completely. But we’ll keep on passing the comments and feedback we get on for you guys.
Snoop - All comments should be approved now, I just finished going through them. (We use this system to stop the spammers.) Even if a comment may be negative, you’ll notice I’ve approved them all, so long as they weren’t filled with expletives.
Seishoujyo – I’m not able to go into detail with you on everything, sorry. I know a number of fans out there have already been able to confirm pretty much everything, but from an official standpoint my hands are tied with regard to what I can say. Just know that personally, we’re on the same page and I understand completely where you guys are coming from.
Bob – Thank you. : )
Catseyez - in the future, yes! Everyone will eventually be able to pick up that DLC.
Haha – Can you link me to this? I took a look, but I don’t see the line you’re referencing.
Deekman – The thanks go out to all the supporters of Yakuza. In my opinion, fans upset over the cut content are mad not because they just like complaining, but because they’re passionate about the game and they just want to see it given as much support as possible. As someone who fills the roles of both SEGA fan and SEGA employee, please know that I can completely understand the frustration there.
Silly Skeleton – if no one else will say it, then I will: sorry. It’s tough not being able to go into more detail for you guys, and I apologize for that.
Seven5 – Thank you. It’s easier for people to associate a name with their frustration, and in that sense our role as the conduit for info between SEGA and the fans becomes quite a tough spot to be in. Still, someone has to shoulder that burden.
Posted by RubyEclipse on March 11th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Comment # 59
Instead of saying Review Scores Soar how about Complaints keep rolling in and upset fans world-wide continue their displeasure, etc, etc. THIS would REALLY Grab attention then saying how wonderful and smoothly things are going
Posted by Kensan on March 11th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Comment # 60
Well again with more coming out about what has been cut. Does not surprise me in the least. How much more will see cut from a game that was supposed to have 99% of the content intact according to a PR rep from SEGA. I bought the game and I have enjoyed the first 5 hours. I am still disgusted by all the cuts. I probably would miss most of the side missions as I would just play without using a guide. As for blaming Ruby, he is not the one who is at fault and he is not a liar. He has told us what he is able to tell us. He has been ordered to keep quiet. I believe him when he says he is a fan and would not want to be in his shoes for all the tea in China. He has done his best to save face for a pathetic excuse for a company. I hope some DLC will come out soon, but I am betting no. If you want to hate SEGA I can understand, but to take personal shots at the PR guy isn’t helping. It is like getting mad at the cop who gives you a ticket for speeding. The cop may feel bad about giving you a ticket but he did not make the laws against speeding. He is just doing his job. Ruby is just is just doing his job. We have the choice to not speed as we have the choice to not buy the game. Getting angry at the cop or Ruby or any other lower employee at SEGA America will not make things better. Some upper SEGA management blob made this choice to cut all of these thing and ignored anyone who disagreed. Ruby may not have told as the total truth and only gave us bits and pieces. Not 100% honest, but most certainly not a liar. There is much more to this than meets the eye.
Posted by CHiPsFan7Mary4 on March 11th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Comment # 61
The reason the post says reviews soar is because the game is fucking awesome.
Sorry you babies don’t get to enjoy it because of some idiotic agenda.
Off to Kamurocho
Posted by James on March 11th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Comment # 62
Wait, they cut actual missions out of the game? I thought it was just hostess stuff and mini-games? This is above and beyond what I can put up with. I’m shipping this game right by to gamestop for a refund.
Posted by megamixer on March 11th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Comment # 63
Thank you RubyEclipse, for your reply. Especially “Just know that personally, we’re on the same page and I understand completely where you guys are coming from.”
Posted by Kurt on March 11th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Comment # 64
Thanks Ruby…SEGA fans are lucky to have you.
Posted by DJ Fob Fresh on March 11th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Comment # 65
From this website – http://www.thunderboltgames.com/reviews/article/yakuza-3-review-for-ps3.html
“Cut content from the western version of Yakuza 3 includes:
-”Loser” (Japanese theme song by Eikichi Yazawa)
-Wooing women in hostess clubs
-Managing a hostess club
-Mahjong mini-game
-Shogi mini-game
-Massage parlor mini-game
-Answer X Answer trivia game
-Convenience store magazine browsing
-A handful of sub-missions”
Put it ALL back in, SEGA. All of it. Every single thing on that list anything else you removed or didn’t bother to translate. Don’t miss a single thing from the free DLC pack you plan to put all of this into.
Posted by Adam on March 11th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Comment # 66
Re-add in the content and ONLY then I’ll buy.
No full game, No buy. That’s the way the ball bounces.
Posted by evilmajikman on March 11th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Comment # 67
I don’t know what really caused SEGA to take out stuff. Personally, I don’t really care. This game is mine.
Posted by iwh on March 11th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Comment # 68
…
I’m just refreshing your forums from time to time and the newest victims are following side quests from chapter 5:
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
And chapter 6 cuts are coming later. Wow. I already wrote somewhere this but, does Toshihiro Nagoshi know what you did to his game?
Posted by KKiryu on March 11th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Comment # 69
Ruby thanks to reply us.
A lot of fans here are upset, and I understand your position, Yakuza 3 is a great game and I support it (I bought my copy today in France, the Premium Pack is nice).
And juste because it’s a great game and series we all the fans wants the 100% full experience of it (discussion in hostess club, managing a hostess, shogi, mahjong, or quizz are very fun things), we want the succes of this game and a future for others here I mean Yakuza Kenzan et Yakuza 4.
Please Ruby just tell at those high up a Sega that a lot of fans want all of this content on a DLC (even if it cost 5 or 10 Dollars, if it free it’s better but I think lot of us can pay for this), if things are like they said “we don’t had time to translate everything so there is no probleme to translate it now right ? And why cut the massage parlor ? There is nothing to translate here ^^
So I think people at Sega don’t understand what fans of Yakuza 3 really wants and who are they (we love Japan and all his stuff, so stop with this shit “it doesn’t resonate with western people”, i m playing Yakuza here not Halo or COD.
So we all here couting on you Rubby, make them understand, and it’s a question of trust between Sega and his fans for the future, depending how things gonna happend now.
Posted by Seishoujyo on March 11th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Comment # 70
Oh and one more thing, we don’t understand all this silence from Sega, I think it’s the worst thing of all…..
It’s like they don’t even care about their fans.
Posted by Seishoujyo on March 11th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Comment # 71
After reading about more cut contents that Sega deemed unworthy to disclose, I’m glad that I did not purchase the game.
What did Sega learn from this experiment? They learned that they can sell an incomplete product and people will still buy it.
When the consumers reward bad behaviors with their money, it will only further encourage bad behavior. In this case, it would result in the reasonable assumption that content would be taken out of future games for flimsy excuses.
Posted by thomas on March 11th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Comment # 72
Get your printers ready Yakuza 3 fans I’m building a better box art.
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?p=5657679#post5657679
Let me know what you think!
Posted by Deekman on March 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Comment # 73
@#71
I don’t think we can say for sure that the game has still sold well despite the cuts. In just my own circle of friends alone all of those who were excited about Yakuza 3 and were planning to buy it decided not to after hearing about the cuts. Myself included. As it’s become more clear exactly what was cut I certainly don’t regret passing on the game.
I’d find it hard to believe that the sales have not been significantly impacted. Unfortunately there’s no way for anyone, including SEGA, to actually put a dollar value on those lost sales.
Posted by mirumu on March 11th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Comment # 74
More cuts found by CutContent3. This is getting beyond the joke.
“Chapter 5
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Is she talking about me…?
Ayukawa Rina***”
Posted by Deekman on March 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Comment # 75
@ # 68
This is getting depressing, not really looking forward to my copy anymore ….. kinda feels I paid full price for a DEMO instead of a full game T_T
Posted by anomalous on March 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Comment # 76
Silence is golden, huh….
I got the damn game but I am not happy about your business practices. No respect for your customers is not a good way to play it. Fix your HUGE mistakes, if not i’d rather you license out your Japan developed games from now on. Maybe some other company will have respect for them and the potential customers who have interest in playing them.
Posted by Matt on March 11th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Comment # 77
Wow, that many cuts. Glad i just picked up FFXIII instead.
Can we get a COMPLETE master list of cuts that gets posted everytime we find more? Will be nice to have them all at together so that anyone who scans thru can find a complete list that can be copied and pasted into the next update of more sad cuts.
Posted by michael on March 12th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Comment # 78
Oh and in case it wasn’t known Sega this is complete BS, as someone who bought and loved Yakuza 1 and 2 (2x since m PS3 ate one of my copies) its a complete travesty what you’ve done w/ 3. I personally will NOT be purchasing till i hear we’re actually getting Yakuza 3 and not some content cut watered down version. If the game stays in its current form quite frankly i wish you’d never brought it over in the first place. Now due to your ignorant and carelessly thought out decision you’ll end up completely killing the franchise outside of Japan.
-Sega decides to rush to release in a month w/ 2 of the biggest Playstation franchises
-Sega cuts content
-The true niche fans that could have possibly carried the game angry and jaded don’t buy game and Yakuza 3 sales plummet. It was already niche, plus the competition, plus the cut content and sadly it doesn’t have a chance.
-Sega decides Yakuza 3 isn’t worth the investment to localize outside Japan
-Sega loses, fans lose, and no one is to blame but SEGA
Posted by michael on March 12th, 2010 at 1:31 am
Comment # 79
Come on Ruby, don’t stop lying now. You have no respect for the fans anyway, why stop now?
Tell us again how it’s exactly the same game, just a little less trivia!
Posted by Velsper on March 12th, 2010 at 2:57 am
Comment # 80
nope. still not buying it until it hits the bargin bin.
i only pay full price for a full game. simple as that
Posted by Sega i am dissapoint on March 12th, 2010 at 3:30 am
Comment # 81
Oh man, I’m so glad I bought Heavy Rain and Final Fantasy instead.
Seriously, if you can’t do it properly, don’t bother doing it at all.
Posted by James on March 12th, 2010 at 3:35 am
Comment # 82
I just completed the Original Game to past the Time, it was exactly what i hoped for. This series is to good to just let it die becouse of these Cuts, so pls hurry up and add the Cut Content……
Posted by Samael on March 12th, 2010 at 4:22 am
Comment # 83
It’s not really fair to blame Ruby for any of this. He probably gets told what he can and can’t say, so it’s not like he is telling lies to us. I bet if he could, he’d probably rant along side us all who are upset by all this, but he’d probably lose his job if he did! SEGA higher-ups clearly want him to keep quiet or be very careful with what he says, for whatever reason.
Lets just hope one of these people decide to let Ruby give us the full info and news of the content being reinstated ASAP. The longer they leave it, the worse it’s gonna get for them.
Posted by Adam on March 12th, 2010 at 4:24 am
Comment # 84
Seems more like SEGA can’t resonate with their consumers money.
Posted by Lennon on March 12th, 2010 at 4:31 am
Comment # 85
So far 16 side missions have been cut counting only up to chapter 5. What a joke.
Posted by Cade on March 12th, 2010 at 5:27 am
Comment # 86
Right, he hasn’t lied at all. Not when he told Kotaku there would be no cuts, not when he said it was the exact same game with just a little less trivia, not when he said he’d be up front about the cuts, not when he said it was only 1% cut, not when henot when he said he’d comment in the other thread, not when he claims you can build relationships with the hostesses.
The guy is a poster boy for telling the truth!
Posted by Velsper on March 12th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Comment # 87
List of the cuts.
12 Chapters, 123 sub-missions in Japanese game.
So, 15 sub-missions have been cut from chapters 1-6.
Chapter 3, 4
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
Chapter 5
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Is she talking about me…?
Ayukawa Rina***
***You cannot date her. In the RGG3 you can date 10 girls, for whatever reason 1 of them didn’t make it overseas.
Chapter 6
No cuts
List so far…
Sega. You are bastards. I havent opened my copy due to trying to find out what all was cut, but Im thinking now it isnt worth keeping. You cut a crap load of the game content out and charged full priced! I plan on returning it unless you announce returning the content and do it in the next 2 weeks. There are more unbutchered games I can buy. If End of Eternity is cut in anyway, Im done with you!!! This sad excuse for a localization of Yakuza 3 is the final straw.
Posted by Hakumen on March 12th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Comment # 88
I feel sorry for the creators of Yakuza 3. Having the Japanese game about Japanese stuff and Japanese guy being Americanized. I REALLY feel sorry for him having his creation shit all over by some guys who thinks this game has to be Americanized. This isn’t the 1990s where American publishers try to protect people from Japanese stuff. See, SEGA Japan, this is why the Dreamcast failed in the west. You guys hired horrible and ignorant people to do crappy marketing. They ruined Sonic and other guys with horrible marketing. There’s no other explanation for the cut content other than to Americanized it and protect us from Japanese things. Cutting content out takes more time than translating it. I know this because it requires more work to code and remove anything connected to the stuff you guys planned to cut. You also would have to test the game a lot more, change how the dating Hostess works and many other stuff such as quest. So we know that the time constraints excuse it BS. It required more work to cut out and change content than just translate. All you guys really had to do was just translate Japanese to English. Jeez, you guys suck so bad at marketing. Releasing it around Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, God of War III, Bad Company 2 and other games. Oh wow you guys are brilliant… at wanting for this game to fail in the west. Ugly cover… did you guy listen? No. Cutting content because the west won’t understand it? LOL we can learn, can’t we? You guys probably didn’t even get this message or don’t care about it. RubyEclipse, there’s nothing you can do because they are idiots who won’t listen or care. No point trying. Damn, I wished Atlus was able to do a proper localization. Oh yeah, learn what niche market means and how to target them.
Posted by NicoNico on March 12th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Comment # 89
Me and many friends have choose to don’t buy it. Unfortunately your cuts are too much for us. I hope in the future Sega of America can understand that sometimes they must listen the fan.
Sorry I’ll take it used or I’ll wait to see a complete version.:)
Posted by Sharkone on March 12th, 2010 at 8:00 am
Comment # 90
Just look at the number of fans that choose to continue to support the game after you do crap to the game and the fans. SHAME ON YOU SEGA.
I DUN GET IT WHY CANT YOU ALL JUST GIVE US WHAT WE WANT. IT IS REALLY SO HARD TO TRANSLATION THE CONTENT? YOU ARE SPOILING THE WHOLE GAME AND THE FUN OF IT JUST BY CUTTING THE CONTENT.
JUST LOOK AT HOW BIG OF A ISSUE UR “TRIVIA CUT” HAD CREATED.
JUST GIVE JUST WHAT WE DESERVED.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 12th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Comment # 91
ruby, all sarcasm aside I seriously urge you or someone at sega should issue a statement about this whole mess and actually address our concerns as many of us are seriously considering filing suit against sega us for false advertising/ truth in labeling. I suggest you remedy this situation before it it gets out of hand and gets serious for you. I hope this was all worth it ruby and sega.
Posted by spacecity on March 12th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Comment # 92
Hi Ruby
Thanks for the info about the pre-order DLC! Good news.
Just want to say that I have never enjoyed a game so much as the 4 hours I spent on Yakuza 3 last night. Its even better than I had expected. I sincerely hope that the fan reaction to having content cut is being addressed at Sega HQ and that the sales will justify some type of patch/dlc to complete the Yakuza 3 experience and secure a future release of a cut free localised Yakuza 4.
I must also give credit where its due as Sega have put some effort into decent advertising of Yakuza 3.
Its such a shame all this hard work has been tainted by an awful decision by someone at Sega HQ which has very nearly decimated Yakuza’s loyal and proactive fanbase.
Anyway I love the game – the reviews are very good – and I am still recommending the game to be picked up by any of my PS3 owning friends in the UK. So good job Sega but not the great job we were hoping for.
One final note, I am not a Sega fan-boy / suckup I am just someone who is thankful for a game which has put a smile on my face and is giving me a great experience.Believe me I have been gaming for over 30 years now so it takes a lot for a game to make that sort of impression on me.
Here’s hoping you Sega guys can impress me even more with some remedy to bring back the upset hardcore yakuza fans who without their input I probably wouldn’t even be playing this game.
Peace!
Posted by Catseyez on March 12th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Comment # 93
only if they put back the other half of the game i will by ever from them again
Posted by karacho on March 12th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Comment # 94
Hi Sega,
I was on the cusp of buying this game a few days ago (and this is a big week with several other huge titles coming out on the same day), but I am hesitating to do so given the cuts that have been made.
I know, much of the game seems to be intact, but I think that cutting it at all (at least in cases like this where it’s not a legal or licensing issue) seems a bit silly, especially given that a huge fanbase in the US was looking at buying it. I think everyone taking the time to post here would love to know why it is that the cuts were made in the first place.
Don’t get me wrong Sega, I sincerely thank you for releasing Yakuza 3 (even though I don’t think releasing it here was anywhere near the risk it would have been even 5 years ago), but I am more than a little bit disappointed to hear about the cuts. To whoever made the call to cut content– you’ve really risked a lot of sales that would have been just about guaranteed.
Posted by karasu on March 12th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Comment # 95
Pre-ordered the game, am not regretting that decision. I almost backed out like most after the announcement of cut content, but I can say that the game is well worth it even without the extra content. I will also say that I pre-ordered the game with the hope that Sega will add the extra content as Free or paid DLC. Don’t let me down!
Congrats!
Posted by Baz on March 12th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Comment # 96
I just pre-ordered the EU version and even though I know it have cut contents…. I say f*** it. If that’s the price to pay for being able to play a translated Yakuza 3 then so be it.
It’s all my fault guys, I’m cursed! Everything I love happens to get’s screwed up or dies off. First my precious dreamcast dies and gives up being in console bussiness and then my precious Shenmue won’t get a sequel, House of the dead 4 won’t get released on consoles, and last but not least Yakuza 3 get cut’s and we’re unsure if Kenzan and Yakuza 4 will get released to the west.
Out of all game companies in the world why must Sega always be a few step behind other companies. Either it’s my curse or something really f***** up going on in the office of Sega of America.
Posted by Ali on March 12th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Comment # 97
First off, THANK YOU SEGA FOR RELEASING THIS GAME!!!!!!
Next off, I loved the hostess clubs and quirky Japanese things like the massage parlor and managing the hostess club! PLEASE PUT THOSE BACK IN VIA DOWNLOAD CONTENT. I preordered this game and will be the first to download these features…. free or otherwise.
Also, Thank You Ruby for actually reading some of these!
last thing, please bring us Shenmue 3 when you get a chance…
Posted by eddie on March 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Comment # 98
Awesome game but for some reason I cant find alot of the side missions? its really bothering me.
Posted by Derek on March 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Comment # 99
i purchased my pre-odered yakuza 3 yesterday, i was surprised of all the cut content… I brought it anyway because i really enjoyed the series ever since its beginning on ps2. Anyway i hope you can tell the team in japan to port over yakuza 4 UNCUT!!!!! i brought this game at my gamestop and they never gave me my costume pack DLC nor did i ever get the game soundtrack that was promised and now I”m screwed out of a 100% game and no Costume pack DLC AND soundtrack…. I love the series but damn SOA really?
Posted by The Han on March 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Comment # 100
I just purchased my pre-ordered copy of Yakuza 3 and im enjoying it. I’m disappointed and angry along with all my fellow Yakuza fans here about the cut content i still believe in this series. I purchased this game from Gamestop and got the challenge pack that was inside my copy, but i never recieved my copy of the exclusive costume pack DLC pack nor did i get my soundrack (i don’t know if the soundtrack was removed for people who pre-ordered or not, but i know the costume pack was still promised). I hope to see Yakuza 4 in the states but i promise i will never purchase if comes here incomplete, Japanese culture doesn’t need to be “Amerianized”,,, saying that makes it seem like the Japanese culture isn”t right or something to us americans and S.O.A. took a poor stance in this. Again i sincerely hope Yakuza 4 makes it here but it should only come with it’s content uncut. Japanese yakuza isn”t american; it’s Japanese so keep fateful to it’s culture.
Posted by The Han on March 12th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Comment # 101
Sega i hate you, i never buy any game of your company anymore!!
Posted by Yakuzacut3forever on March 12th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Comment # 102
“Hostesses are in the game, and you can take them out on dates, build relationships, and sing karaoke with them to your heart’s content.”
When playing so far this seems to mean: “We made them spawn one by one in the burger joint, you go on two dates then get into a fight.”
How very misleading to put this here to make people think hostess clubs were not cut. I would have easily waited six more months for a complete version.
Posted by sabishii on March 12th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Comment # 103
DLC! DLC! DLC! Put it back into the game. There’s no reason not to. You know what we want. We bought it. We want it. Give it to us. Show your loyalty as we have shown ours.
Posted by Rudy on March 13th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Comment # 104
Any chance PSN will get a SUB of Yakuza 1? It makes sense…………………Now, about Shenmue 3. C’mon, you know you want to spill it. When SEGA? The big question that everyone has on their mind is WHEN. Also, I did buy Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing and I have to say, I absolutely love it! Say it, Say it. SEGA!
Posted by Rudy on March 13th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Comment # 105
Thank you SEGA for releasing this game in the US.
I’m a big fan of the series and told all my friends about it (some of my friends who own Xbox 360 were thinking about Purchasing a PS3 because of this game). Now…to cut out content…is like having the game censored…I have enjoyed every aspect of the first two titles. This game does cater to the fans of the original series (a ‘ nd yes we did enjoy the mini-games, hostess clubs/parlor). Please SEGA release the cut material as DLC on the Playstation network. Many of my friends are upset that SEGA didnt include the content. Even “MEGA64″ is making parodies about it (you know of MEGA64 is doing something bout it…it is a big deal…).
Thanks again for reading out comments. Also thank you SEGA for releasing this great game in the US. The least SEGA can do is RELEASE THE CUT CONENT AS DLC ON THE PLAYSTATION NETWORK.
Posted by Michael Lazerus on March 13th, 2010 at 1:27 am
Comment # 106
I bought the game day one .Sure it would be nice if it was complete.i ordered from gamestop an got codes from them an some packaged in game for new add on content.I like the game so far even if i didnt play the import version.Im sure sega will giveout free DLC download soon and it will be the content that people got with the preorders the few of us an they will say there you go .
Posted by k-dog on March 13th, 2010 at 5:43 am
Comment # 107
http://www.atlus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=13
DO IT !!
but out of curosity, out of all the Atlus localizations I played I don’t think they included the JP voices.
Posted by anon on March 13th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Comment # 108
I was going to cancel my pre-order, but then thought to myself, I really love the Yakuza series so I guess a few minor mini game cuts will be better than missing the whole game. After buying the game and realizing a lot more content has been cut than just a few mini games, I have a really bitter taste in my mouth. If SEGA does not come out with a DLC to put back all contents, I will never buy another SEGA product again. SEGA, if you don’t do something about the B.S. you pulled, you will lose this customer for life!!
Posted by J.T. on March 13th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Comment # 109
I just talked to a friend of mine who is a lawyer, and I wanted to tell the fans that if they are discontent with Yakuza 3 because of the certain cuts that were not officially mentioned by sega. Then you can ask for a refund from sega, if they do not answer or if they refuse than you have the choice to sue them for Truth in labeling and Fals Advertising. Acording to my friend.
Just a thought for those who bought the game and did not realise the extensive cuts that were made to the game.
Posted by PISSEDOFFGAMER12498 on March 13th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Comment # 110
Yeah I ran the same thing by some lawyers as well both here and in Japan and the same thing came up with the fact most of us pre-ordered being told the game is being braught over with no mention of cuts and leaving most of us feeling as if we were getting the same game and “what” content we origionally payed for was not left in.
Posted by Kensan on March 13th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Comment # 111
I say we all file a class-action lawsuit against SoA personally. Since they don’t want to give us the content back apparently….
I also love how we can “build relationships” with the hostesses…..you mean two dates Ruby?? Filling up a whole two hears out of eight?? WOOHOO!!
Fail bro.
Posted by Kazahashi on March 13th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Comment # 112
you do know we won’t get it as DLC cause they destroyed bayonetta and they diden’t make the patch sony did so they probably think screw you fans money’s in enjoy a crappy and incomplete game and buy it cause else you won’t get the yakuza 4 with more cuts
Posted by dgnfly on March 13th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Comment # 113
MESSAGE TO SEGA, PLEASE! TAKE NOTE:
Hi!
I’m from the UK and I want you to know that I have gone out and bought Yakuza 3 today, but for the record I like many of your customers am very upset about all the missing content pulled from the game for no good reason, therefore I have bought this game in the hope that SEGA do the correct and honourable thing and release the missing content as DLC as soon as possible, it should be “FREE” but if charging a little for the missing content gets it released then I will still be happy as long as I get to enjoy the full game as it should be, but just please! get it put back in the game one way or another.
Also one of the other major reasons I have bought Yakuza 3 is because I’m hoping to see Yakuza 4 come to the UK in the near future, UNCUT!
Thanks! for reading.
RJB
Posted by RJB on March 13th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Comment # 114
What a joke, you meet the hostess in random places like Burger Smile and without even really talking to them they ask you to take them somewhere “nice” i find that more confusing than this whole “things that didn´t resonate with the players” B.S……
And this whole MEB information center has gotten useless due to the fact that there are no hostess clubs. And that cutting Sidestory-thing also keeps angering me….
Posted by Samael on March 13th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Comment # 115
i can’t believe sega hasen’t apologised 2 it’s fanbase for all the lies not just for yakuza but also for bayonetta with all this SEGA deserves worse developer this GEN
Posted by dgnfly on March 13th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Comment # 116
Can I just say its “paid” not payed =p
Please read Sega
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2ASZ7EET6UJG6/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0030GBSUC&nodeID=468642#wasThisHelpful
I like this review ^^
Posted by anomalous on March 13th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Comment # 117
Missions cut from all 12 chapters:
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=320111
” 3,4
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
5
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Is she talking about me…?
Ayukawa Rina***
6
A Satisfying Yakuza (Iyashiikei Yakuza)
9
The Mars Fighter Invades Tokyo (Toukyou Shinryaku Kasei Fighter)
10
Love’s Cupid – The Finale (Koi no Cupid Kanketsuhen)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 3 (Toukyou ni Ikitai Dai 3 Hanashi)
English Conversation Solicitor step 3 (Eikaiwa no Kan’yuu step.3)
English Conversation Solicitor step 4 (Eikaiwa no Kan’yuu step.4)
This list is 100% accurate. After completing 100 quests, all the hitman missons and the IF7 fights, I am able to get the final quest, Amon.
There were 123 sidequests in RGG3, there are only 101 in Yakuza 3 (Including Amon).
Special thanks:
ThePatrick – Good guide, got all my references there
Sega Localization Team – Without them, this list wouldn’t exist
RubyEclipse – For being a great PR guy”
Worked out new percentage the UK/US version of the game has from here – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza_3#Completion and with the new info above (thanks to the person that did that) ………….. we get 92.46%.
So thank you Sega for bringing over 92% of the game even though you said the game hasn’t got any cuts then turned around and said 2 weeks before the release date you only removed hostesses and quiz then in the end we can still experience 99% of the original game …..
/sarcasm
Posted by anomalous on March 13th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Comment # 118
Honestly, I probably would’ve been able to get over it if it really had just been the hostess clubs, shogi and mahjong that were cut. Now that the full list of all the side quests that have been cut is up on the forums, all I can say is that I’m really disappointed. 18% of the missions have been cut, 20% of the mini-games have been cut and we still lost the hostess clubs on top of that.
It’s really upsetting that you would actually lie to us and say that we’re still getting “99% of the game, but with a little less trivia” when roughly a fifth of the game’s content has been removed.
One thing that REALLY bugs me is that one of the missions that got cut was part of a LONG-RUNNING SERIES of missions that was started in the first Yakuza. In the first game we meet a guy who is going to commit suicide because his girlfriend was cheating on him, in the second game we meet the same guy again, instead this time he’s going to take his girlfriend down with him, double-suicide style. Yakuza 3 has– sorry– USED to have the conclusion to this guy’s story before you guys took it out, but now I’ll never get to see it.
Not to mention that most of the items in the game are totally damn useless, seeing as how I can’t actually give them to the hostesses. Honestly, this game is just broken as it is now. I’m really upset about the whole thing.
Posted by TheTimelyHoward@gmail.com on March 13th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Comment # 119
#107 here. I forgot to mention that I haven’t actually bought the game– I’m another one of those guys who canceled his pre-order after the news about the cuts hit. I’m totally willing to run out and buy it, so long as you fellas promise to put the cut content back in (and an apology would be nice).
Posted by TheTimelyHoward@gmail.com on March 13th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Comment # 120
And the final list is in. 17% of side quests and 20% of mini games are out (+ Ayukawa Rina, theme song, massage parlor and whatnot). Instead of spreading positive word about this game on message boards (like with games like Valkyria Chronicles), I’m now going around informing people about the cuts. People have the RIGHT to know what they’re not getting when spending $60 on this game. It’s up to them to decide whether they care about the cuts or not.
Posted by KKiryu on March 14th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Comment # 121
I Bought this upon launch day to support the series (as I did Valkyria Chronicles) fantastic game as the previous two are but the ridiculous cuts really have a noticeably negative impact on the enjoyment of this.
Mahjong and shogi parlors can still be walked into yet you can’t play in them due to the cuts?
Items can be bought from shops like Le marche (very expensive ones at that) yet the items have no use anymore thanks to the cuts.
People will still say things like “Here take this and go to your hostess club. It’s the least I can do for your trouble.” despite the fact that you can’t as they too have been cut!
That would be bad enough but then there is 22 quests missing from the western version as well …
Chapters 3,4
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 1
The Brewer’s Treasure
Make the No. 1 Cabaret Club Girl!
English Conversation Solicitor step 1
English Conversation Solicitor step 2
Love’s Cupid
Love’s Cupid Continues
Love’s Cupid Continues Again
A Trip Before Marriage
Chapter 5
Manga Artist Debut (Mangaka Debut)
The Runaway Phone Chat Girl (Terekura Iede Musume)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 2
Great Genius Showdown
Is she talking about me…?
Ayukawa Rina***
Chapter 6
A Satisfying Yakuza (Iyashiikei Yakuza)
Chapter 9
The Mars Fighter Invades Tokyo (Toukyou Shinryaku Kasei Fighter)
Chapter 10
Love’s Cupid – The Finale (Koi no Cupid Kanketsuhen)
I Wanna Go to Tokyo pt. 3 (Toukyou ni Ikitai Dai 3 Hanashi)
English Conversation Solicitor step 3 (Eikaiwa no Kan’yuu step.3)
English Conversation Solicitor step 4 (Eikaiwa no Kan’yuu step.4)
The Couple Who Wouldn’t Learn (Korinai Futari)
Honestly Sega this is unacceptable it’s 2010 hacking away at things at localization to make it more “western” should be a thing of the past even the previous 2 Yakuza games made it here without that happening so why now?
You said it yourself about the fans
“They can create amazing successes for games that were never expected to have them – looking at you, Valkyria Chronicles – and they can just as easily do the opposite, in some cases.”
At the moment it’s the opposite isn’t it so help us help you, please bring back what was lost! Put the missing content on PSN for us to download, surely if you can throw money away at rubbish like Iron man you can afford to at least finish the job on subtitling this (one of your best game series since Shenmue …)
If not then please in the future hand over your localizations to someone who will do them properly and give them the respect they deserve.
Posted by Shuya on March 14th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Comment # 122
Hey! SEGA,
The good news: Been playing Yakuza 3 and it’s great!
The bad news: The more I play and enjoy the game the more I wish the game was fully uncut.
Solution: SEGA get up off your bums and please! hurry up and get the missing content put back in this great game via a patch or DLC, give this game the “respect” it truly deserves and win back the love of your fans/customers, a win/win situation for all.
Kind Regards
RJB
Posted by RJB on March 15th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Comment # 123
Personally, I stand by my point that Sega is the new shame of the gaming market (alongside Activision, but that’s a different story). I could take cuts in the nineties, at the time of Rival Schools, Project Justice and Ace Combat 3, but now it’s 2010 and the gaming market is supposed to have evolved past that rudimental stage.
Not only cuts, but misleading and false statements about the magnitude of such cuts is unacceptable and should NEVER be justified.
The only way to get rid of this stigma, is to simply make amends for it, releasing the cut content as DLC (very possibly free, or at least extremely cheap, unless you want a further PR debacle).
While I personally support the franchise. I will continue to make sure that the public opinion knows about the cuts. In the nineties we fought against cuts in game and anime and we thought that such battle was finally won and a thing of the past. Looks like we were wrong.
Seriously, shame on you sega. You brought videogame localization back 20 years.
Posted by Abriael on March 15th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Comment # 124
“Hostesses are in the game” Yeah not all of them. Funny how you left that out.
Not to mention you guys said this game was 99% complete with a little less trivia.
That was before we actually got the game and found out not only the hostess bar, but in all 4 mini-games were cut along with over 20 side missions.
Way to treat your loyal fans Sega. Where’s the honor in what you’ve done.
Posted by Dust on March 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Comment # 125
Yupp Hostesses are in the game, but you just need to do 2 Date´s and then you already get the Finish-Quest for the Hostess, not to mention that they try to pick you up instead of the Character trying to pick them up……. Hostesses leaving in the Game was pointless for me.
So hurry up and proof that this line “lesson learned, and support given” is not just a lie. This whole Post got zero new information, there is no Sign that SEGA really learned anything and where is the Support? The games already been out for a week and there´s still no sign of a complete cut list.
All i´ve been reading until now is just : Buy the Game, maybe we take some time for the series, but first we want to know if people would buy it and if we like the sales maybe we bring out the 4th game. Sounds like Blackmailing to me, nevertheless its just business but if you want to make money. you can´t get cought lying.
Posted by Samael on March 15th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Comment # 126
Simply put:
- I bought the game b/c I want to see Yakuza 4
- I am bothered every time I walk by a bar, the name pops up, & I can’t go in
- I am purturbed every time I enter a shogi or mahjongg parlor to find a locker key, and am reminded of what I can’t play.
- I am severely upset after doing 3 “hostess dating” pairs, since
a) The part we enjoyed was the “hunt”, building the relationship
b) With a) they are all the same w/ a different face, form the same locations. There’s no personality, being generic, apparently “easy” women who give it up to the muscular older gentleman in a white leisure suit who walks into the yakuza equivalent of a McDonalds
c) Kills the mood when we enjoy the game b/c it immerses you in the Japanese culture
- The only part I could understand to be missing would be the pop quiz, and only b/c it would like involve VERY localized trivia, which would basically have players on google looking them up everytime, but this is the ONLY cut which I could understand.
- I personally enjoyed designing the club in Yakuza 2, so the lack of it here when it was in the game before is ALONE more than 1% worth of the game.
- Removing non-minigame related missions….. seriously….?!
e) I will only recommend this to everyone I know if the DLC to put it whole again is confirmed,
- Lastly, and sadly, after getting a “Finished” status on one mission, knowing what this means for completion sake (you know what I mean, hardcore fans), with the bitter taste from the missing content, I’ve temporarily set it aside… juuuuust in case we do get the patch, and I have to restart anyway to aim for 100%…. which I would do HAPPILY if it means having the full content.
Posted by Lamar on March 15th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Comment # 127
Oh, a side note… someone should let Sega know that from my asking around, it would seem they have, until they announce the return of content, a potential 50-70% sales loss from the lapse in judgement. This comes from a CPA & a lifetime hardcore gamer (I stop through Gamestop occasionally when I’m out JUST to talk games, since it’s practically next door). Hell, I’d consider being a fan-base consult for current & future decisions, on a PR & financial level, for practically nothing… hell, make that nothing at all. Call it a labor of love.
Posted by Lamar on March 15th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Comment # 128
Sega of America are sure not a good game developer. You totally put no respest in your game, and also the gamers. If it is other game developer like Rockstar, even the japanese quiz thing they will also try to translate it in a way that the west will enjoy it. But as for you, you dun even care also translating the simple mini games and hostess club. Not only that, you cut out the side mission that had NOTHING TO DO WITH NOT RESONATE WITH THE WEST.
THIS GAME SHOULD BE AT THE TOP TEN LIST OF GAMES NOW BUT YOU RUIN EVERYTHING
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 16th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Comment # 129
Come on, finally give us some usefull information and not these stupid catch phrases…….
Posted by Samael on March 16th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Comment # 130
Thanks guys for bringing this to us, I just bought my copy and I’m really psyched (still installing ^o^v), when SEGA first announced there wouldn’t be a western release, I was reading the fan sites thinking it would never get there, but here it is !
Of course there’s the content cut bemol, that’s too bad, hope we’ll see it as a DLC, even ready to pay for it there, or in Yakuza 4!
Anyway thanks for bringing the fight to them
Posted by Maz0r on March 16th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Comment # 131
Just finished the game…damn…now I really, really want part 4
Posted by DJ Fob Fresh on March 16th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Comment # 132
@ #131
Yeah, me too, me too
. IT WAS AWESOME!
Posted by MeanBob on March 16th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Comment # 133
I did not buy the game….I will buy yakuza 4 if the contents not missing….I hope sega do the right things for part 4….
Posted by navin on March 16th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Comment # 134
It’s over dudes. Sega doesn’t seem to want to respond. The comments have reached to a count of almost 150 with many other forums having giant threads about this subject. If they haven’t responed by now… I just encourage everyone to now divert their attention to Yakuza 4. Just wait ’till you play through the last chapter of Yakuza 3, you’ll see why…
Posted by Seven5 on March 17th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Comment # 135
Although I’m really disappointed that the contents in Yakuza 3 were cut, I still bought the game and thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it. It reminds me why I love the Yakuza series so much. The story and environment are top notch, and all the characters, especially Rikiya and Mine, really grew on me. Compared to Yakuza 1&2 on the ps2, Yakuza 3 is 10x better. The graphics are amazing on the ps3, I wish all the previous Yakuza titles could have been this good. I’m full support for Kenzan and Yakuza 4 to come state side, so please SEGA bring them over with full content! Also if you want the game to sell well, how about better advertising and choice of release dates? It’s a hidden gem and a damn shame that you’d choose to release it against big hits like FF? I had to choose between purchasing Heavy Rain, Yakuza 3 and GOW 3.
Posted by Elly on March 17th, 2010 at 2:45 am
Comment # 136
I forgot to mention but who ever was in charge of the box art for the US release should be fired. What was wrong with the original? I know we shouldn’t judge a book/game by it’s cover but you do realize that people will have to fork up $60 for this game. If I wasn’t already a fan of the series I would never have picked up the game. The box art is a turn off and doesn’t showcase anything that the game has to offer. Couldn’t you have made it more appealing? I would of taken Kazuma’s back shot again any day. Maybe for Yakuza 4 you guys can do a fan survey or something so we can pick the box art because it is obvious that someone at SEGA Yakuza Box Art Department is visually impaired.
Posted by Elly on March 17th, 2010 at 3:06 am
Comment # 137
According to vgchartz Yakuza sales were only 48,000 copies next to FFXIII at 405,000 come on people keep this franchise alive!!!
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=26680®ion=All
If you all love Yakuza soo much then support it. I’m just saying
Posted by JRL on March 17th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Comment # 138
Day 8 without Yakuza 3. What am I doing? Battlefield during the noon and God of War III. Sad really, without Yakuza 3 in full. I’m hanging in there so far. I did without Bayonetta’s crappy PS3 port since January and I can do without a censored Yakuza 3.
Posted by Stan on March 17th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Comment # 139
This probably why Sega had to cut content; “Financial year ends 5 April. The last Friday of March has often been a dumping ground for slightly more niche stuff, there was a crazy day for the DS a few years back IIRC. ” Basically it;s to save on taxes
There’s also another theory involving atlas;
” Sega wasn’t going to release this. They found out that if they didn’t release it in this quarter Sega of Japan would license it to Atlus in a deal with Yakuza Kenzan and first dibs rights to all future Yakuza games. They freaked out and realized that they’d lose the rights to Sega’s biggest Japanese franchise that their Japanese side will be pouring money into regardless of Western sales, so they’re cobbling it together just to hold onto the license for the future.
-Weş”
Source
http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2010/02/yakuza-3-ruined-by-segas-stupidity.html
Posted by Seven5 on March 17th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Comment # 140
*******According to vgchartz Yakuza sales were only 48,000 copies next to FFXIII at 405,000 come on people keep this franchise alive!!!
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=26680®ion=All
If you all love Yakuza soo much then support it. I’m just saying*****
I doubt this site is accurate
Posted by anomalous on March 17th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Comment # 141
The fiscal year speculation makes the msot sense (something I’ve … the fact that you “know you are being heard” and that RubyEclipse “can’t say anymore than that presently” makes it sound like they are doing something about it whether it be DLC or Yakuza 3: Uncut re-release version… but I doubt it.
I don’t believe that the cut content was due to publishing competition between Atlus because I believe that once the license for localizing Yakuza 3 has been obtained, it’s secured once and for all so they can take as long as they want to localize it, such as completely including all the removed side missions. Right? Or No?
Posted by Stan on March 18th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Comment # 142
No rerelease seriusly I bought the game and don’t want to choice between buying it again and having this crippled version they need to make it either an dlc or as an patch
Posted by Samael on March 18th, 2010 at 2:42 am
Comment # 143
I agree, it definitely needs to be a DLC approach for us. However, Resident Evil 5 came out with a gold edition which gave us the option to DLC or buy the package as a disc. Sega may see this as a trend that Capcom has pioneered here. Good god… I’m just glad I can say that I got the “out-of-print copy of RE5″ and still be able to get the DLC. Super Street Fighter IV is another story… To Sega, I believe they’re going to make money either way by re-releasing or DLC.
Posted by Stan on March 18th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Comment # 144
I’m really desperate right know. I won’t buy a game with cuts, that’s not going to change. But I really want Yakuza 3. I would even pay if a DLC to fix the cuts would be released…:/
Posted by ThatOneGuy on March 19th, 2010 at 5:36 am
Comment # 145
Still no Yakuza 3 for me which would make it Day 11 for me. I’ll just play other games until they put the content back for me to purchase the game. Oh hey! Resonance of Fate is out isn’t it? I’ll just play that in the mean time… oh wait, it’s published by Sega? Probably has cuts in it too, I’ll wait til I get confirmation that there’s no cuts before I get it.
Posted by Stan on March 20th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Comment # 146
I have decided to not buy any f***ing sega product other than yakuza series if there is still nothing done about the cut. You do not deserve any support from the gamer, you need the gamer to beg you for something but you know what? There a tons of good games out there waiting for us, why buy your lame product?
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 21st, 2010 at 1:45 am
Comment # 147
*sigh* I bought this game cause my brother is in love with the first 2. I ddnt have the heart to tell him about the cut content until yesterday and let me tell you he was PISSED. He spent the entire game waiting to mack on some bitches and all the thugs tell you go to the hostess club or here’s this item go use it on a hostess. Thats some bullshit. I hope that Atlus rumour isn’t true.
Posted by Spacecity on March 21st, 2010 at 9:45 am
Comment # 148
seriously Ruby have you even been to the Yakuza 3 site lately?? This is a game with many hidden things to do despite all the cut content and encourages multiple playthroughs yet a mere few weeks after release and still have not tried to encourage a thriving community of people playing this game. Instead you havea forum which by the way always has the most people viewing when I come it visit which festered hatred cause you guys cant even say, ” Sorry guys we fucked up, well release DLC.” or at the very least,” We know we fucked up theres no much we can do about yakuza 3 but we’ll go the full out treatment with yakuza 4 no cuts deluxe packaging good marketing nad youlll get it this year.” If you really love this series as you profess to do your action sure dont speak for it.
Posted by Spacecity on March 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
Comment # 149
Well, that’s awesome. I bought the game, haven’t played it yet though due to some time constraints, and it’ll most probably be good.
But please, SEGA, give us the remaining content back. Heck, you could even leave the translation to some fans, I’m sure there are some people on the forums that would be willing to do that. The content seems to still be on the disk – someone reported the sizes of the American and Japanese version were the same – so I guess it will probably just be a small patch.
I’ll probably be buying the next Yakuza games if they ever come out in the western world (BTW, any chance of Kenzan coming out sometime?), but if this keeps happening, I’ll get those second-hand.
Posted by Selador on March 21st, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Comment # 150
I just took a look at VGChartz, here are the sales of Yakuza 3:
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=26680®ion=All
Here are those of Yakuza 2:
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=4762®ion=All
Don’t know if this site is reliable, but if it is, Yakuza 3 has sold THREE TIMES MORE in America than Yakuza 2 during their first week! That should motivate you to bring us the rest of the game, shouldn’t it?
Posted by Selador on March 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Comment # 151
Y’know, what Weş Ehrlichman said over n the SelectButton forums might not be far from the truth:
“Sega wasn’t going to release this. They found out that if they didn’t release it in this quarter Sega of Japan would license it to Atlus in a deal with Yakuza Kenzan and first dibs rights to all future Yakuza games. They freaked out and realized that they’d lose the rights to Sega’s biggest Japanese franchise that their Japanese side will be pouring money into regardless of Western sales, so they’re cobbling it together just to hold onto the license for the future.”
SEGA USA didn’t want to lose the rights to a game made by their own company, to a company that would do a better job with the localization and marketing so they decided to be selfish and go “No, it’s mine!” and then half-assed the job.
Thumbs-Up SEGA USA guys. Way to really bone the franchise, and then on top of it all, not even have the decency to release a statement when you have so many fans crying foul.
Posted by Kurt on March 21st, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Comment # 152
Okay, so I just woke up for the 3rd time and my boyfriend hasn’t come home yet so you all are going to have to hear me vent a little..okay alot
Many of you all are so focused on getting a response from Ruby that you have failed to see one big part of the picture that he has already painted for you – “If there’s one thing about Yakuza the last few months have taught people..Its that the fans are a force to take seriously…usually”. ‘Usually?!? It should be ‘always’ since the game is, afterall, being made for, paid for, sought by, brought by and played by the fans. But I digress. Either way, that word right there combined with the random hee-haw about some other game title that I don’t care about and has nothing to do with anything about the Yakuza series pretty much gives me the answer I was looking for – this wasn’t and isn’t going to be one of those times were the fans are listened to. From Sega’s point of view, they’ve done enough by just giving us the translated version.
It’s been almost a month since it was confirmed that some content was cut from the game and Sega has yet to make any type of official statement that I know of regarding exactly what was cut and why (remember: RubyEclipse does not equal Sega). Well, that’s because there’s not going to be one. But this is not a reflection of how Sega USA feels towards its fans; no, its a reflection on how they feel about the game itself. They obviously have no faith in this title since they felt the need to change the original cover art and theme song, as well as remove various other aspects of the game that helped make it so popular in its native country because they felt it wouldn’t fit in with the rest of mainstream Western, European, and Australian gaming communities. They should have given us, the fans, more credit though since, like I said before, the game was basically localized for us. We gladly brought the first two games without any cuts having been made so the content did, at the very least, resonate with us. And, since we are the ones that are to be buying the game, and it’s what makes the people that are going to buying your product happy what truly matters, nothing should have been cut. The only difference there should be between the original Japanese title and its Western version are the English translations and subs – that’s it. And I understand that it is a big game and there is a lot more than just the cut scenes that need to be translated (character descriptions, names of moves, products, random conversations, etc) but no fan ever said this needed to be release before X date in order for them to buy it. If there are certain things that they feel we wouldn’t understand due to the possible culture barriers – that’s what Google and Wikipedia are for! What do you think I did when I had to figure out the number combination to open up the safe in one of the side missions from Yakuza 2? I’m the very definition of a casual gamer so if even I can reach 100% completion on both part 1 and part 2 then trust me, the concepts are not hard to understand at all!
Unlike many others who have commented here, I did purchase Yakuza 3 on the day it came out, fully aware that the game would not be intact and without even owning a PS3 yet (!!!) since I believed in the title and supported it so much. It was the first time I had ever pre-ordered anything but it mattered that much for me to do my part in helping to make this game a little more successful here. I know that I am just one person but I’m sure that if none of this missing content stuff had leaked a couple of weeks before the game was released there would have been many other fans who would have gladly done the same. But even so, that doesn’t mean that this whole fiasco would have been avoided. As the true fans that we are we would have found out about the missing content sooner rather than later which brings me back to my original point – the fans’ opinions matter! With zero marketing for this game from Sega USA it’s the fans that have made this franchise what it is here in the West, no matter how small Sega may feel that is. We found out about the first two games on our own and we pretty much kept this title alive here by speaking about it each chance we got. If Sega USA truly intended to make a bigger profit from the game then what they felt it’s original fanbase could have garnered, then they should have considered marketing it a little better themselves. Otherwise, if it was truly just released for the fans, we wouldn’t be having this discussion as removing any type of content from any fan-driven anything would be a non-issue. But, I work in retail so what do I know. Maybe, the gaming industry works differently? It’s seems most of us who have commented on this are not understanding Sega USA’s decision regarding the changes made to Western release of Yakuza 3 so it would have been considered common courtesy for them to release an official response with regards to this when the game first came out. But obviously, if we haven’t heard anything by now, we never will. And that’s not the impatient crankiness that’s keeping me up that’s talking, it’s common sense.
If these words are truly being forwarded to and read by the ‘higher-up’s” at Sega, there is one more thing I should say: It is said that even the flutter of a butterfly’s wings could cause a typhoon on the other side of the Earth. As you can see, the decision your company has made against this game, no matter how small you feel it may be, has greatly affected its fanbase. Your lack of investment in a game we feel so committed too has left us feeling disappointed, underestimated, and most importantly unappreciated – and as the true fans that we are, you know that it is justifiably so. No matter how unpopular you feel this game may be throughout The States and Europe you will see that in this forum alone there are hundreds upon hundreds of comments concerning the missing subject matter and lack of response alone; and hundreds, maybe thousands more throughout different mainstream websites and forums concerning the same things. I know that a couple of thousand people will not make or break a game, but remember, the whole game was brought over because of those same couple thousand to begin with. I also know that the words of a few thousand international fans isn’t much at all compared to its Japanese fanbase which is of a couple Hundred thousand – but, at the end of the day, this is still a Japanese game. You had no obligation to bring this game over, but you did and I am VERY thankful for that (believe me, I’ve been sitting on pins and needles waiting for my PS3 to get here to start playing..I also got Heavy Rain waiting in the wings – both seem equally as interesting to me!!). But if this was truly done for the fans, please listen to our concerns (or read our words, you know what I mean) and give us the response we have so been waiting for and deserve. I for one, would not mind paying for a DLC of the missing content or purchasing a second, un-cut version of the game (with the original cover art and theme song, of course..please?!). But that’s just the opinion of THIS fan.
It has yet to be seen how our little butterfly wings will affect your company in the future, but as you can see from the 800+ that have already voiced there frustrations and complaints about this, we are loosing, if not have lost faith in you. Remember, that no matter what it may be, if it matters that much, it’s important. Clearly, this matters to those who have spoken thus far.
Good luck in the future and thanks for listening, if in fact you are listening!
PS. By ‘you’ I mean Sega USA, not RubyEclipse. Just throwing that out there. I’m not that ignorant. Also, no, he’s not here yet :/
Posted by Denise on March 22nd, 2010 at 1:39 am
Comment # 153
In case you didn’t know, there is a common observation that Japanese firms tend to save the best products for themselves.
This happens with cars (older GTR, Lancer EVO, Subaru STi), electronics.. and now video games! The newer versions of these cars probably wouldn’t have been imported to the States if their economy wasn’t doing so poorly.
This is disappointing, but not an incredible surprise. I take Ruby’s post as a lame deception to what is common culture.
I can’t believe how many people think that this is just a result of time limitations and a misperception of how to “Westernizing” a video game.
It’s much more, really
Posted by disappointed on March 22nd, 2010 at 2:06 am
Comment # 154
by the way, I am of Japanese decent, but I was born and raised in the US… I am not stereotyping, as my relatives tell me that the above is true culture
Please give me my English dub of Yakuza 3!!!!!!!
I, like so many others, are not gonna buy it until we get a full version.
Sega, help us help you make some money
Posted by disappointed on March 22nd, 2010 at 2:10 am
Comment # 155
Bravo Denise!
I have given up here, SEGA have won, well in refusing to give us a response, let alone DLC. They have won against the angry fans by not giving us answers, solutions and all the content (history quiz, hostess bar management, minigames, side missions, theme song etc). They have not won financially, as this game has completely dropped out of the ELSPA all formats top 40 chart this week. Maybe a kick in the wallet might help them see sense, even though people think that a financial disaster would stop potential DLC and future Yakuza releases.
Whatever reason they actually had for removing the content, none of them can be justified, I am sure of that. Lets hope if any other Yakuza games make their way west, they will be handled by a company that can do the job properly.
I will be avoiding SEGA products as much as possible now. I won’t be buying Resonance of Fate (maybe second hand) or Sonic 4 (I think you ruined it by making it episodic, totally breaking the flow of the game, rehashing old levels instead of making new ones and making us pay several times just to finish one game).
You truly are the kings of kings when it comes to poor decision making.
Posted by Adam on March 22nd, 2010 at 4:41 am
Comment # 156
Once again, I don’t believe in that Atlus speculation… but it does make some sense.
@SEGA:
You still need to bring in Kenzan over to the states. Also, more importantly is that SEGA’s reputation has now become synonymous with cutting content. Do you seriously want the industry to continue viewing SEGA this way?
30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 22nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
Comment # 157
I rarely comment on any blog, heck this is my first time every because i love the yakuza series! They gotta take care of this problem pronto, DLC PATCH WHATEVER. just gotta answer to the ones who are willing to spend their hard earned cash on a great game!! so like that bunny from gamestop. SEGA LISTEN UP. “POWER TO THE PLAYERS!!”
Posted by David on March 22nd, 2010 at 10:49 am
Comment # 158
Ruby, you should take a look at this post over at the forum:
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=321285
“It’s been just shy of two weeks now since Yakuza 3 was released, and we’re still seemingly no closer to hearing from Sega on the issue of all the content missing from the localized version of the game. It’s really upsetting to me, as a consumer and as a fan of Sega and the Yakuza series, to feel ignored like this on a matter than I feel really should be addressed properly. Even with something as simple as “We’re sorry, but we have no plans to re-integrate to content we chose to exclude from the Western release.” would at least bring an unfortunate end to the situation.
That said, I signed up not to beg Sega to tell me to screw off, but to share my thoughts on the cut content and why it’s such a big deal to me. It’s more or less clear now what exactly has been removed from the game, and the amount of missing content and the specifics of what that content is have had a significant impact on the game for myself and many others.
First, let’s talk about the elephant in the room. All the content relating to hostess clubs have been excluded. This includes going on paid dates with various girls to build up your relationships, and managing/grooming girls to become hostesses. You can still go on normal dates with the girls (though it’s believed only 9 of the 10 girls are available – Rina Ayukawa appears to be missing for unknown reasons), you’re essentially finding random girls at restaurants who just happen to be hostesses, and you wouldn’t really know this anyway. It comes off as awkward and uncomfortable. And with the exclusion of hostess clubs comes a number of items in the game’s inventory, which have become almost useless.
As only one of two cuts confirmed by Sega (the other being the Japan-centric trivia game, Answer X Answer), it’s become the focus of most of the discussion regarding the cuts as a whole. Not every fan enjoys these aspects of the game, but not every fan hates them either. The way I see it, hostess clubs are a big part of the Yakuza series, and with each new installment, they continue to play an even bigger part. They hold auditions, contests, and events in Japan that focus on the girls who will be used as hostesses in the next game. Even a variation of the hostess clubs was included in the feudal Japan-era Kenzan! game. They’re an integral staple of the series, and I feel that a bigger part of the game was removed than the localization team realized.
Next up, a number of minigames were cut from the game as well. I’ve already mentioned Answer X Answer, but Mahjong, Shogi, and the massage parlor were also cut from the game as well. With Answer X Answer, I can understand that a trivia game based heavily on Japanese history and culture would be rather hard on a western audience, but I still feel like it would have been worth keeping it in as an option for those wanting to try it and maybe to learn more about the culture this game is steeped so deeply in already. This game, as a whole, for many western fans, is about experiencing a place and world that is likely unfamiliar to them. The idea of removing something from the game because it’s just TOO unfamiliar just seems far more alienation than allowing the player the option to try it.
The same goes for Shogi and Mahjong – Two games that are familiar enough in Japan, but not so much to westerners. It should also be noted that I believe both of these games were playable in the localized release of Yakuza 2, and there was seemingly no concerns from the players or the localization team about the ability to learn and play these games at that time. To have them removed now is a huge step backwards, and again, the option should have been there for players who know how to play or wanted to learn. It’s all part of a larger whole.
The massage parlor is the final minigame I’m aware of that was cut. It’s also the only one that I absolutely cannot think of any reasoning behind why it was cut. It’s my understanding that’s a fairly simple minigame along the same lines as the massage parlors found in the previous games in the series, though I believe this one actually had a bit of a side-mission attached to it. There is nothing really here that I can see that would require much translation and definitely nothing that would be problematic for a western audience.
The last thing, and the one that I think most fans are most united in their displeasure over, is the removal of over 20 sidequests throughout the game. Many of these did not have any connection to the previously-mentioned cut content, and therefore would not have been removed as a result of that. Seemingly, they were cut simply due to time limitations for translating all the text in the game.
Even those who might not deal with hostess clubs or Shogi and Mahjong are probably inclined to take on most, if not all, side missions in the game. They involve exploration, character interaction, storytelling, and fighting that most of the general gameplay is made up of. So now you’ve gone into cutting out portions of the game that negatively affect the majority of the western audience. Portions that yielded rewards and experience that were beneficial and might have even made a difference for many players in how well prepared they’d be to take on future challenges. And for fans of the previous games, some of the sidequests removed returning characters that the fans would have enjoyed seeing again.
In the end, we still now have a localized version of Yakuza 3 that I am finally able to play. And while there is still a lot of stuff in there for me to enjoy, the amount of stuff that was removed is significant to myself and many others, and I think it’s very important for Sega to address the fans properly and resolve this situation.
Many fans are already looking to get Yakuza 4 in the West (personally, I don’t want people to forget about Kenzan! before we move too far ahead), but I look at the harsh, inelegant content removal done to Yakuza 3, and as the game stands, I am not hopeful that a continued future of the series in the western market would be a happy one. The games are only going to get bigger and more robust. Yakuza 4 is obviously a bigger game than Yakuza 3 was. If there was too little time and money to give Yakuza 3 a proper localization, and Sega continues to ignore the countless comments made by the consumers, what faith can we have that any future games in the series will not suffer from similar, or significantly worse, content removals?
Unfortunately, it seems like this message may fall on deaf ears here on the message board. We haven’t gotten any responses yet through here or on the blog posts, and I doubt my post will be the one that gets them to finally speak up. How do we make sure we are heard, and more importantly, get the answers we want? Right now, I was thinking we might encourage Kotaku writers Luke Plunkett (plunkett@kotaku.com) and Brian Ashcraft (bashcraft@kotaku.com) to continue contacting Sega on our behalf. They’re the ones who have continually reported about the Yakuza series on Kotaku, and have previously been able to contact Sega for comment about the cuts. I think that they would listen to our messages, and in turn, be able to get responses from Sega. I’m not sure of any other outlets where our messages would hope to produce result, but if you know of any, please share.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Thanks for listening to them.”
Ruby, I don’t know how it all works up there, but you gotta tell the higher-ups to start telling us what’s going on and if they’re even deciding on getting what we want, whether it’s DLC or a patch. It’s been a while since the game’s been out and they have been silent. Something’s got to be said.
Posted by MeanBob on March 22nd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Comment # 159
What was said in the above-linked forum post was spot-on and perfect. Could not have been said better.
Posted by Kurt on March 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 am
Comment # 160
TO CONCLUDE IS THAT “JUST GIVE US A REPLY”.
dun tell me sega of america cant even understand simple english.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 am
Comment # 161
SEGA would be seeing better sales with the content intact.
30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 23rd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Comment # 162
The more Often I read this the more it sounds like “shut up already we have heard enough of your complaints”
Posted by Samael on March 23rd, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Comment # 163
Why the Cut Content (and Sega’s Silence) Bothers Me
It’s been just shy of two weeks now since Yakuza 3 was released, and we’re still seemingly no closer to hearing from Sega on the issue of all the content missing from the localized version of the game. It’s really upsetting to me, as a consumer and as a fan of Sega and the Yakuza series, to feel ignored like this on a matter than I feel really should be addressed properly. Even with something as simple as “We’re sorry, but we have no plans to re-integrate to content we chose to exclude from the Western release.” would at least bring an unfortunate end to the situation.
That said, I signed up not to beg Sega to tell me to screw off, but to share my thoughts on the cut content and why it’s such a big deal to me. It’s more or less clear now what exactly has been removed from the game, and the amount of missing content and the specifics of what that content is have had a significant impact on the game for myself and many others.
First, let’s talk about the elephant in the room. All the content relating to hostess clubs have been excluded. This includes going on paid dates with various girls to build up your relationships, and managing/grooming girls to become hostesses. You can still go on normal dates with the girls (though it’s believed only 9 of the 10 girls are available – Rina Ayukawa appears to be missing for unknown reasons), you’re essentially finding random girls at restaurants who just happen to be hostesses, and you wouldn’t really know this anyway. It comes off as awkward and uncomfortable. And with the exclusion of hostess clubs comes a number of items in the game’s inventory, which have become almost useless.
As only one of two cuts confirmed by Sega (the other being the Japan-centric trivia game, Answer X Answer), it’s become the focus of most of the discussion regarding the cuts as a whole. Not every fan enjoys these aspects of the game, but not every fan hates them either. The way I see it, hostess clubs are a big part of the Yakuza series, and with each new installment, they continue to play an even bigger part. They hold auditions, contests, and events in Japan that focus on the girls who will be used as hostesses in the next game. Even a variation of the hostess clubs was included in the feudal Japan-era Kenzan! game. They’re an integral staple of the series, and I feel that a bigger part of the game was removed than the localization team realized.
Next up, a number of minigames were cut from the game as well. I’ve already mentioned Answer X Answer, but Mahjong, Shogi, and the massage parlor were also cut from the game as well. With Answer X Answer, I can understand that a trivia game based heavily on Japanese history and culture would be rather hard on a western audience, but I still feel like it would have been worth keeping it in as an option for those wanting to try it and maybe to learn more about the culture this game is steeped so deeply in already. This game, as a whole, for many western fans, is about experiencing a place and world that is likely unfamiliar to them. The idea of removing something from the game because it’s just TOO unfamiliar just seems far more alienation than allowing the player the option to try it.
The same goes for Shogi and Mahjong – Two games that are familiar enough in Japan, but not so much to westerners. It should also be noted that I believe both of these games were playable in the localized release of Yakuza 2, and there was seemingly no concerns from the players or the localization team about the ability to learn and play these games at that time. To have them removed now is a huge step backwards, and again, the option should have been there for players who know how to play or wanted to learn. It’s all part of a larger whole.
The massage parlor is the final minigame I’m aware of that was cut. It’s also the only one that I absolutely cannot think of any reasoning behind why it was cut. It’s my understanding that’s a fairly simple minigame along the same lines as the massage parlors found in the previous games in the series, though I believe this one actually had a bit of a side-mission attached to it. There is nothing really here that I can see that would require much translation and definitely nothing that would be problematic for a western audience.
The last thing, and the one that I think most fans are most united in their displeasure over, is the removal of over 20 sidequests throughout the game. Many of these did not have any connection to the previously-mentioned cut content, and therefore would not have been removed as a result of that. Seemingly, they were cut simply due to time limitations for translating all the text in the game.
Even those who might not deal with hostess clubs or Shogi and Mahjong are probably inclined to take on most, if not all, side missions in the game. They involve exploration, character interaction, storytelling, and fighting that most of the general gameplay is made up of. So now you’ve gone into cutting out portions of the game that negatively affect the majority of the western audience. Portions that yielded rewards and experience that were beneficial and might have even made a difference for many players in how well prepared they’d be to take on future challenges. And for fans of the previous games, some of the sidequests removed returning characters that the fans would have enjoyed seeing again.
In the end, we still now have a localized version of Yakuza 3 that I am finally able to play. And while there is still a lot of stuff in there for me to enjoy, the amount of stuff that was removed is significant to myself and many others, and I think it’s very important for Sega to address the fans properly and resolve this situation.
Many fans are already looking to get Yakuza 4 in the West (personally, I don’t want people to forget about Kenzan! before we move too far ahead), but I look at the harsh, inelegant content removal done to Yakuza 3, and as the game stands, I am not hopeful that a continued future of the series in the western market would be a happy one. The games are only going to get bigger and more robust. Yakuza 4 is obviously a bigger game than Yakuza 3 was. If there was too little time and money to give Yakuza 3 a proper localization, and Sega continues to ignore the countless comments made by the consumers, what faith can we have that any future games in the series will not suffer from similar, or significantly worse, content removals?
Unfortunately, it seems like this message may fall on deaf ears here on the message board. We haven’t gotten any responses yet through here or on the blog posts, and I doubt my post will be the one that gets them to finally speak up. How do we make sure we are heard, and more importantly, get the answers we want? Right now, I was thinking we might encourage Kotaku writers Luke Plunkett (plunkett@kotaku.com) and Brian Ashcraft (bashcraft@kotaku.com) to continue contacting Sega on our behalf. They’re the ones who have continually reported about the Yakuza series on Kotaku, and have previously been able to contact Sega for comment about the cuts. I think that they would listen to our messages, and in turn, be able to get responses from Sega. I’m not sure of any other outlets where our messages would hope to produce result, but if you know of any, please share.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Thanks for listening to them.
Posted by Marc C on March 24th, 2010 at 2:02 am
Comment # 164
In my region Yakuza 3 is already available for half the original price. But nevertheless I won’t buy it. UNCESOR THE DAMN THING.
Posted by ThatOneGuy on March 24th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Comment # 165
I just played through and beat the game. Once again amazing and proves why its one of my favorite game series. Here is hoping that Sega brings Yakuza 4 to North America.
Posted by Josh on March 24th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Comment # 166
@ #163
Totally agree. And hey, by the way, I posted your link and quoted your entire post for Sega to see. I posted up at #158. Was just trying to spread your word
Anyway, Ruby and Sega, we do need a reply. It’s time to stop this silent that the team’s been having
Posted by MeanBob on March 24th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Comment # 167
In my region it still costs 50€ and that is pretty expensive for an beta version of an game……
For any other game i wouldn´t even bother investing that much time just to see and check what´s been cut and if there are any news about an possible DLC, if this where any other game i would have simply not even bought the game and just borrow it from a friend or get it by another free way, but this game is different.
Atleast give us some reply about this whole cutting mess…… Because this so called reply is absoloutly pointless and useless beginning from “They can create amazing successes for games that were never expected to have them and they can just as easily do the opposite, in some cases.” which sounds like the game did as poorly as expected, but Sega doesn´t think it would have sold better.
“To clarify additionally, as has been mentioned: Hostesses are in the game, and you can take them out on dates, build relationships, and sing karaoke with them to your heart’s content.”
This is something we alle know but it´s just pointless:
1. It seems pretty unrealistic that these girls just randomly ask guys who look like yakuza members to take them out on dates. They seem by far too enthusiastic and too easy to get
2. They just stand in random burger shop places waiting for a guy they can ask to take them out….. Sounds more like Prostitutes….
3. While beeing on Dates there is no real interaction. Just take them anywhere and you get alot of points.
4. After just 2 dates they act like you are the best man they ever meet, even if you just bought them a present and where bowling, without even talking to them.
5. It seems like the only reason they where left in the game are because of the easy to get 5000XP you get for completing them.
6. Alot of the items that where supposed to be functional for the Hostesses have become useless.
7. All these Points destroy the whole Concept of “trying to make the girls fall in love with you”
That beeing said, the Hostesses are cut out of the game for me, it´s no fun to take them out, besides their standart clothing looks stupid. So the whole Hostess Club is cutted, who cares about “you can still go on dates with them!” why should i?
And that sidequests have been cut out of the game is nothing like “a little less triva” an Japanese History minigame is something trivia but Sidequests are the most important part of any game that is quest based especially for RPG´s.
Posted by Samael on March 24th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Comment # 168
As I posted before, I’m returning my two copies of Yakuza 3. This isn’t a charity, folks. I’m not going to pay money so you guys will “do better next time.” Screw that. Too little too late. If Yakuza 3 does poorly in sales? So be it. That’s YOUR fault and YOURS alone… not the consumer’s.
Posted by Will on March 24th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Comment # 169
You guys are such a disappointment. What a joke. The hostess bar was probably the thing I was looking forward to the most in this game. Well, you saved me $60. I know that people say that a lot, and you’ve gone out and said that a lot of Yakuza fans say things without actually spending money. I’m not a Yakuza fan. You just lost a potential new customer. Hope it hurts.
Posted by Frank on March 24th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Comment # 170
If we’re only getting 92% of the content for this game, we should only have to pay 92% of retail. And your game should only get 92% of the scores it received here. That’s only fair.
Posted by Hakan on March 24th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Comment # 171
I was at a local GameStop and asked how much the trade-in value was for Yakuza 3 and it was $18. However, the trade in value was at $22 just 2 days before hand. Guess people must have trade in some copies to drop the trade in value. Amazon’s dropped from $37.50 to$33 in just recently.
Posted by Stan on March 24th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Comment # 172
Just give us a reply man, how long do you wan the fans to wait? Btw have anyone go visit the yakuza 3 official website, it had not even be updated yet since the first day, the game had been release for so long and not a single update on that website? ALL THIS IS REALLY BULL CRAP.
NEXT TIME, SEGA PRODUCT = NO THX !!!
Posted by Yakuza Fan on March 25th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Comment # 173
Sega is a bunch of charlatans. Ruby said he was going to be ‘up front’ then we got a shit ton of cuts that haven’t even been mentioned. Wonderful.
Thanks for 75% of a game when you said it was 99% which even hen was unacceptable.
Posted by hizke on March 25th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Comment # 174
Iron Man 2: 30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 25th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Comment # 175
They could rename their company to “SEG -Now with 25% less bang for your buck!”.
Posted by KKiryu on March 25th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Comment # 176
Hey SEGA, just leaving this petition with nearly 1000 signatures on it here.
Those who haven’t signed it, sign it.
http://www.petitiononline.com/Y3NACC/
Posted by Okotte Iru on March 26th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Comment # 177
Hey Sega are you really ignoring all of these people complaining about a 85% finished game that everyone feel like they’ve been back stabbed. I wanted to trick out my hostess girl and manage a hostess club. That’s all I wanted to do for the game not even the story just the part that was cut was all I wanted to play. Since Yakuza 2 I messed up on the management hostess club so I said forget it for now I just do it better when I play Yakuza 3 only to find out what I wanted to play was not even in the game. Well anyways you should seriously read these comments and post something about this and why we do not have it. Sure that fact that the girls are in the game is cool but the stuff that was in the past two games now missing just seems… well wrong and unprofessional just seems like you guys just rushed when making the game and not tried nearly enough as you should.
Posted by Justin on March 27th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Comment # 178
Infinite Space: 1% oooppp, er… I mean 30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on March 28th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Comment # 179
Still waiting for my content! So many little glowing spots on the map that you can’t go into~! why bother leaving them in their at all if you can go in? Also anyone tell me if the girls standing always on Pink street are the ones you “would” of been able to hire for a hostess club in the managing your own hostess club that was cut? The way they are standing makes me think they are there for some reason that ties into the real game.
Posted by Kensan on March 29th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Comment # 180
Is there anyone at Sega currently even looking for the possibility to release the missing content as a DLC? Is it even technically possible? Simple YES or NO answers would do.
Posted by KKiryu on March 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Comment # 181
I know it will the content will eventually return… until then, Day 20 without Yakuza 3 for me… I must repeat… it WAS my most anticipated game for 2010… and yes, for me personally, more anticipated than God of War III… the removed content better return…
Posted by Stan on March 29th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Comment # 182
I’m with Stan (comment #181) on this one. This was my most anticipated game of this year and I would love to see the missing content return. Seriously….this game is amazing and could be much more amazing…. You guys should finish the website for this game and finish making the game for the US. Just a suggestion….
Posted by eddie on March 30th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Comment # 183
Here you go, a massive and ongoing list of what is cut.
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=322120
PLEASE PLEASE return all of the stuff that should have originally been in the game back!
Posted by Balrog on March 31st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Comment # 184
Bring back the Hostess Club, the Sidemissions and the other stuff already!!!!
This is getting boring……..
Posted by Samael on April 1st, 2010 at 4:10 am
Comment # 185
Why it seems that everything about yakuza 3 is getting quiet and not even a single news on it now adays. Does that means that there will not even be any DLC to this game?
Come on man, Sega you really sux, the only reason this game dun sell well is becos of you and if you think a game that is from one year ago can sell well then you are the dumbest shit. So now why dun you start doing on yakuza 4 be4 it get too late you dumb shit.
Oh no, i should not even ask u all to do that cos if you all do it then we going to wait one more year and then to found out damn a lot of content missing. Pointless ……
Posted by Yakuza Fan on April 2nd, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Comment # 186
I haven’t forgotten about this Sega… I’m still around… Day 25 without Yakuza 3 for me and I’m hanging in there with Bioshock 2 right now. Until the content is restored, I will make it my personal duty to see that the Sega’s reputation falls.
Here’s a clip by Mega64 over at the IGN:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5EW6fq07_c
Video blogs from YouTube about the content cut: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yakuza+3+content+cut&aq=f
I get more upset as each day goes by. 30% less content! Brought to you by SEGA.jpg
Posted by Stan on April 3rd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Comment # 187
Hello, I just bought the game Yakusa 3, who was anxiously awaiting after playing the first and second episode, but it seems that SEGA does not respect the players of the West Side … Apparently, it also underestimates our intelligence by saying that quests of Japanese history and hostess were taken because they would not add anything in the game .. So tell me … Why not say this now because tabém the first and second game? I feel that my intelligence has been underestimated, as well as my respect. I hope that in future versions of the game Yakusa, not to delay too much, and these excuses. tks.
Posted by Márcio on April 4th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Comment # 188
COME ON MAN, JUST GIVE US A REPLY. NO NEWS OF YAKUZA 3 AT ALL. NOT EVEN A SINGLE WORD, I AM REALLY EUFF OF YOUR SHIT. IF NOTHING IS GOING TO BE DO ABOUT IT THEM JUST SAY SO, DUN KEEP US WAITING AND WASTE OUR TIME.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on April 5th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Comment # 189
Wow Sega Really still nothing about this game’s missing content. Well at least other game companies listen to their customers. You would think by now with all the complaints Sega would at least post something about the matter to at least acknowlege the customers. Last time I checked it was the customers who are the ones who buy games treat the customers poorly and the customers will treat Sega poorly in return.
Posted by Justin on April 5th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Comment # 190
Ok this is getting lame does Sega even know we are posting stuff here????? Does anyone know another way to contact Sega like an email or something more direct for all we know they have our posts hidden so they can’t see our complaints. So everyone who wants Sega to break find thier contact info post it here and we can go annoy them until they acknowledge the people!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Chris on April 5th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Comment # 191
Just wanted to let Sega know that I think the dating in the game is rather bland compared to the hostess club stuff… I mean can I manage dating? that just seems lame to me but managing a hostess club sounds pretty cool if ya ask me…. I really loved the hostess club stuff in the first two games it seems sooooooooooooooooo stupid to take it out now especially on a game that is one blueray with all that space plus this is a new generation for gaming graphics why not have the hostess clubs. IF ANYONE FROM SEGA IS READING THIS AT LEAST TRY A DO SOMETHING TELL SOMEONE HIGHER UP SO THEY CAN AT LEAST LOOK INTO THIS SITUATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean come on now this is really frustrating I beat the game 100% everything sure the game was cool but now it’s just an expensive paper weight with no real point in going back to!!!! My friend also bought the game and he was halfway though it asking me where is the hostess club I told him its not in it cause Sega is lazy and he stopped playing the game saying there is not point in playing an unfinished game he said its just a really big demo with an ending. He traded the game an got Final Fantasy XIII which honestly was an excellent get. I’m only holding on to this game just to know are you guys even going to try and add something to Yakuza 3 if not then I have wasted my time and money with this game and… well go no choice but to trade it in and get Final Fantasy XIII or God of War 3…. Also that will be my last yakuza game from the USA side… guess I have to import the game and learn Japanese so I can get the 4th installment so I wont feel cheated by how corrupted Sega of America is. Also I will still buy games from Sega but I will wait for half a year till I officially know is there anything taken out of the game or something that needs to be added. If this incompetence in Sega occurs again you will lose a customer! And I will warn all my friends about how Sega is one of the worst game companies out there.
Posted by Jamei on April 5th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Comment # 192
We posted a link to Sega Japans web site to comment but you have to complain in Japanese to them. Some of us allready have.
Yeah the dating is odd. You pick up women dressed in clubbing/escort clothing at the local Burger Joint, or the ice cream shop. Odd place to run into them and the dialogue they gave them is cheesey as hell. I don’t think they listen OR they would of mentioned somthing on their website since this IS THE PLACE to complain. I think they are hoping this dies down but getting us frustrated enough to quit. Look at the other blog we got up to almost 1,000 signers….. No comment. I finished the game and it IS short. Add the content back in so I can get my moneys worth that I handed you!
Posted by Kensan on April 5th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Comment # 193
Please give us some kind of response as to what is happening with the missing content. This game has already doubled the amount of sales as the second one did total in sales!! We are supporting you, now support us!
Posted by eddie on April 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Comment # 194
I’m still here Sega and I ain’t gonna fuckin’ go away. Day 28 without Yakuza 3 and I’m still playing Bioshock 2. I’m so glad I heard about the cut content before I made my final purchase, but luckily I was able to get my pre-order deposit back.
Sega is like the AIG insurance group; they take your money and just bath in it forgetting about where the money came from spending it on themselves.
Sonic 4: 30% less content! Brought to you by Sega.
Posted by Stan on April 6th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Comment # 195
Seriously terrible business practices. Thanks, Sega, for being the absolute worst.
Posted by hizke on April 12th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Comment # 196
Alright Sega, gawdammit… you got perhaps a year from the launch of Yakuza 3 (preferably sooner) to announce that there will be a full Yakuza 3 game… I believe you’re all cooking something up back there on fixing this situation, but until then, I’m not going to even buy or play the game. I’m not going to play one incomplete version and a complete version a year later. It seems to be a trend in games like Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter IV coming out with remakes on discs. Both DLC and Yakuza 3 Uncut will absolve this mess you’re in that will taint Sega forever. But thinking you can just take out content and then put it back in later is fucked up. I certainly hope you all there at Sega aren’t following in this trend. I will continue to wait. Day 35 without Yakuza 3 here.
Conduit 2: 30% less content! Brought to you by Sega.
Posted by Stan on April 13th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Comment # 197
IS anyone actually listening to us? The fact that we havent gotten ANY response makes me wonder
Posted by Kensan on April 14th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Comment # 198
What the ……, no news of yakuza 3 at ALL~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And also no news of yakuza 4, CRAP.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on April 15th, 2010 at 5:57 am
Comment # 199
Honestly I played through the game and parts of it felt bland and things seemed to be missing especially since most of us know of the missing content. Also felt very short even though I tried to do all the extra things that we are “allowed” to do in the western version.
Posted by Kensan on April 15th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Comment # 200
When I get my hands on a used or cheap copy of Yakuza 3, I’m going to burn it like an effigy on a YouTube video and hope it goes viral so that everyone will know SEGA’s business practices. This won’t be the limit to how far I’d go. I really should just import the games from now on. There’s no point in playing Yakuza 4 without Yakuza 3 and Kenzan. Day 37 without Yakuza 3. Btw, SEGA is wondering why Bayonetta sold mediocre is because the shoddy PS3 port. I still haven’t bought the game nor do I plan to. I give SEGA about 8-10 years in this industry before they run it into the ground. I’ll be damned if Activision console games do extremely well after they practically nuked the Infinity Ward studio.
YAKUZA MOTHERFUCKIN’ 3. 30% MOTHERFUCKIN’ LESS CONTENT! BROUGHT TO YOU BY MOTHERFUCKIN’ SEGA.
Posted by Stan on April 15th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Comment # 201
SEGA: Set up a site where only the people who purchased the game can give feed back.
Half these losers are just talking shit.
I bought the game, its AWESOME – when I heard about the cuts, I felt cheated, lied to even.
You should, at the very least, allow the original content to be available even if its through a DLC (purchased would be shady, but whatever).
Just doesnt make sense that you would limit the amount of ‘eastern’ content to people who are buying this game EXPRESSLY for that. If I wanted to do american crap, I’d buy a GTA game.
Here’s hoping that you are actually reading this blog for intelligent lifeforms rather than scanning for all the ‘di s3g@’ flames
Posted by Exyll on April 21st, 2010 at 8:00 am
Comment # 202
Who the hell are you to scold all this ppl who are also yakuza fans like you. They know about the stupid act of sega and dun wan to be cheated by them so they dun buy the game. It is their choice and you have no rights to scold them. I did bought the game but so what? Does it make you have the rights to scold others? It is sega that are at fault here and yet you are scolding the people at our side? What the hell is wrong with you.
Do you really think they will listen to you if you talking nicely to them? Who is the one giving the money? Them? It is us who are giving them the money, the fans who choose not to buy the game becos they dun know to support this crap pulled by sega cos if they do, sega might think it is ok to do this and will do it and feel that it is right.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on April 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 am
Comment # 203
If the removed content is put into DLC, how is that going to work? The side missions were cut by chapter? The only thing I can think of is to replay the game.
Yakuza 3. 30% less content. Brought to you by Sega.jpeg
Posted by Stan on April 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
Comment # 204
Then just replay it, many of us who bought the game are replaying it after we completed it.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on April 23rd, 2010 at 9:51 am
Comment # 205
Of course that’s what I would have done if I had the game. But, that’s if it’s via DLC which sounds pretty much like a patch.
Headline states: “Lessons learned, and support given”
Sorry, but lessons learned doesn’t mean you’ll all be forgiven…
Posted by Stan on April 23rd, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Comment # 206
Jesus, Sega, how about some feedback ?
So this has officially been swept under the rug ?
I bought Yakuza 3 on launch day, but haven’t played it yet.
I keep hoping you guys will do the right thing and put the cut content back in via DLC, but it seems like wishful thinking at this point.
Hey Sega, you know R.U.S.E. has just been pushed back several MONTHS after receiving feedback from the Beta, right ? That’s what you should’ve done, instead of stubbornly releasing your game the same DAY as FF13.
Posted by Lapoisse on April 24th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Comment # 207
I would play through it again no question about that, but why havent they atleast addressed the issue of so many fans wanting it??
Posted by Kensan on April 26th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Comment # 208
Wow Sega, Iron Man 2 looks great… I feel really bad that I have to rent it though… Sega won’t get support from me until I get my Yakuza 3 content back… Day 48 without Yakuza 3… and I’m now playing Super Street Fighter IV for $39.99.
Iron Man 2. Possibly 30% cut content. Brought to you by SEGA.jpeg
Posted by Stan on April 27th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Comment # 209
Hi. I tried the demo and I loved it. I had never heard of Yakuza before and was amazed. I was going to buy it but then I heard that you don’t get the full game outside Japan. Now there is a “Special Edition” out. Is that the full Yakuza 3?
I probably wouldn’t have cared for the cut parts, but the knowledge that I am not getting all I could and is paying for makes me not want to buy it.
Posted by Sweden on May 5th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Comment # 210
I’m with you on that #209… Here’s to Yakuza 3 boycott, cheers.
Almost 2 months without Yakuza 3… got plenty of other games… just got Modern Warfare 2 and then Red Dead Redemption in a couple weeks… games that I would not have normally bought.
Posted by Stan on May 7th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Comment # 211
LOL I just watch the review of the iron man 2 and guess what, it say that it sux like hell. Sega I cant believe it, you are really nothing but suk, I guess I wouldnt lose any fun by not buying any of your shitty produce. You are really a joke man, u can go eat shit.
Posted by Yakuza Fan on May 11th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Comment # 212
I think I’ve lost all interest in this franchise which I never thought I would ever. For all I’m concerned, Yakuza 3 is like [Shenmue 3, Kunoichi/Nightshade, Devil May Cry 2], it doesn’t exist to me… there’s your customer feedback there, Sega. No point for me going on to Yakuza 4 for me.
Posted by Stan on May 12th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Comment # 213
you have got to be shitting me. where is the cut content, sega? this is complete garbage. sega is complete garbage. just go under already.
Posted by hizke on May 13th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Comment # 214
I won’t play 4 until they fix 3, a dowload isnt that much to ask for to fix the issue.
Posted by Kensan on May 14th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Comment # 215
C’mon now Sega, just come out now and make a statement… that’s it. I’m not expecting to get anything… I just want to hear a statement to confirm that we are being heard.
Posted by Stan on May 17th, 2010 at 12:24 am
Comment # 216
Are they actually considering releasing 4?
Posted by Kensan on May 18th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Comment # 217
I’m done with Sega and whatever other products they got at this point in time. The most I’ll ever do is rent their games. I couldn’t careless about what else they bring over.
Posted by Stan on May 19th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Comment # 218
I am still waiting to hear if they will bring Yakuza 4 at all to the US
Posted by Kensan on May 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Comment # 219
yeah, I’m looking forward to renting it
Posted by Stan on May 31st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Comment # 220
So much for the “Lesson learned”, the only thing SEGA learned is that they can ignore their customers opinion.
Posted by Samael on June 1st, 2010 at 7:26 am
Comment # 221
This sucks totally!! I didnt know about the censored version/contents until I recently bought this game. Ive played 1&2, apart from better graphics etcetc, the missing hostess bars, massage etc jus ruin the game…. what a disappointment
Posted by DC on June 13th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Comment # 222
Love the game but a censored version, missing hostess bars, massage and the quiz arcade game… thats the plus of the game, i hope yakuza 4 keeping those stuffs
Posted by Dario on June 25th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Comment # 223
@Kensan: They will probably localize it, but with cut content and fucking over the actual environment of the game.. look what just happened here.
This is what happens when you let American companies localize games, they get fucked over.
I knew they were gonna either remove actual content/censor shit.
Good thing I understand Japanese and that PS3 games are region free.
Posted by Kazuki on November 17th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Comment # 224
glory glory to all the football fans its the best sport in the world!! glory glory gloryyy gloryy !
Posted by xinwei on September 5th, 2011 at 7:32 pm