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Tuesday Oct 02, 2012
Available Now: Sonic Adventure 2 and NiGHTS into Dreams…
It’s a good day for fans of classic SEGA. Available now for PlayStation Network — and in just a few days, on October 5th, for Xbox Live Arcade — are two well-loved classics, remastered in HD: NiGHTS Into Dreams… and Sonic Adventure 2! Both NiGHTS and Sonic Adventure 2 are priced at $9.99/£6.49/€7.99 on PlayStation Network and 800 MSP on the Xbox 360. The games have been remastered in HD and are stocked with unique achievements. Sonic Adventure 2 also offers players the ability to grab the “Battle Mode” downloadable content for an additional $3.00/£1.99/€2.49/AU$4.25/240 Microsoft Points this Friday, adding in maps and characters from the the Gamecube re-release of the game. Meanwhile, players who buy a copy of NiGHTS into Dreams… will receive free access to the Christmas NiGHTS bonus content, containing levels previously only available through special promotions and SEGA Saturn holiday bundles. Additionally, anyone who buys a copy of either game on the PlayStation Network will receive a free, exclusive NiGHTS or Sonic Adventure 2 theme for their PlayStation 3. Last bit of official notice before I pontificate for a bit about each game: both games will also be coming to PC digital download in the coming months, so if you’re a PC gamer (as I am) then you’re in luck — stay tuned for more info! Sonic Swan Song
As a fan who grew up with Sega in the 1990s (okay, and the 80s) it’s definitely a kick and a trip to see these two games arrive on these platforms on the same day. Sonic Adventure 2 released in 2001 for the Dreamcast — it was the last and the biggest Sonic game on that system. Introducing Shadow the Hedgehog and combining both the arcade thrills of old-school Sonic with the sprawling adventure made possible by new hardware, Sonic Adventure 2 was a wonderful swan song for a beloved system. Featuring an epic plot and six playable characters — including the he’s-so-bad-but-ladies-couldn’t-you-make-him-change Shadow the Hedgehog, the game was definitely memorable.
And yet it was nearly eclipsed by another feature within the game — to this day we get letters from fans about Chao Gardens, the delightfully ahead-of-its-time ‘battle’ feature that allowed you to raise, evolve, and battle for supremacy with the adorable little Chao. At the recent Penny Arcade Expo I had fans walk up and tell me that they still had their Dreamcast VMU, and still had their Chao saved to it. Given the game’s critical success and lasting popularity with fans, it was also probably inevitable that it would end up with HD remastering as a digital release. Dream a Little Dream
Maybe less inevitable was the (ahem) journey that NiGHTS took to get here. The pure definition of a cult classic, NiGHTS was released on the SEGA Saturn in 1996. Part of the middle-child “fifth generation” of consoles (along with the Nintendo 64 and the original PlayStation) released in the 90s, some truly unique and awesome games showed up for the Saturn, as games began for the first time to experiment with transitioning from 2D platformers to 3D spaces. NiGHTS was and remains unlike anything else that’s been released. Partly, this is the still-dazzling aerial navigation through 3D space and the technical achievement of smoothly pulling off so much wizardly. But technically impressive achievements can always be surpassed and what’s given NiGHTS lasting appeal is that it has a unique and haunting story — there is an ethereal feel of other-worldliness to the game. The game follows the nocturnal journeys in the dream realm of its child protagonists, who use the form of the eponymous purple jester as a sort of avatar to explore the dreamscape and take back stolen dream aspects.
It’s a mythology-heavy and even existential plot that deals with the slippery nature of identity and how our dreams inform our reality and vice-versa — and if that seems kind of heavy for a wild-looking racing/adventure game bursting with color where you play as a magical purple-clad jester, tell that to the legion of fans who are to this day inspired by NiGHTS to create music and artwork. Since arriving at SEGA five years ago I have learned that NiGHTS fans are one of the most tirelessly devoted and best organized groups of I’ve ever encountered. They’ve been carrying the torch for this game for sixteen years, and it’s — ahh, I’ll just go ahead and say it, please forgive me — a dream come true to release this. If it seems like I’m getting all emotional here, well … games like the enigmatic NiGHTS and the rollicking and ambitious Sonic Adventure 2 are why I love games in the first place, and it’s my pleasure to re-introduce them to our old fans, and introduce them for the first time to new fans.
Posted by Edward@Sega in NiGHTS into dreams..., PlayStation Network, SEGA, Sonic Adventure 2, XBox Live Arcade on 6:00:19AM Oct 02, 2012
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Comment # 1
Day one purchase for both. Can’t wait to play again these Real Deal SEGA GOTY experiences.
Posted by SEGA_Fan on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 am
Comment # 2
PLEASE bring Nights and the Sonic Adventures to iOS ! Please!!!
Posted by Paul J on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:37 am
Comment # 3
So,, Panzer Dragoon series next then Sega? I hope so
Posted by Saleck on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:37 am
Comment # 4
Not available in Australia on PSN yet….?
Posted by James on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:39 am
Comment # 5
You made a very good choice in releasing a PC port.
For reasons. The good fellas that mod sonic games will have a lot of fun tinkering with the files on SA2.
I can’t possibly imagine and cannot wait to see what they’ll have in store!
Posted by Emerl on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:58 am
Comment # 6
Are you guys sure it’s available now? Aren’t PSN updated appearing on Wednesdays?
Posted by bz on October 2nd, 2012 at 7:10 am
Comment # 7
Ah, I forgot this is a USA-centric blog
EU gets it tomorrow…
Posted by bz on October 2nd, 2012 at 7:13 am
Comment # 8
@2 PSN updates happen on Tuesday, so these will be available today in the afternoon after the PSN update goes through.
Posted by Nathan on October 2nd, 2012 at 7:18 am
Comment # 9
@Nathan: Updates happen on Tuesday evening in the States, the rest of the world gets them on another day (e.g. European countries on Wednesday).
Posted by bz on October 2nd, 2012 at 7:23 am
Comment # 10
Shenmue next? Pretty please???
Posted by John on October 2nd, 2012 at 7:36 am
Comment # 11
Thank you for the info about the PC version of NiGHTS and SA2, I guess it’ll take a while for them to be available, hmm…
Well, I’m guetting them as soon as they’re available though, doesn’t matter how long it takes for them to be released.
Of course I would like to see them sooner rather than later. ^^;
Posted by ezodagrom on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:21 am
Comment # 12
Yea Sega.NO HOLIDAY COSTUMES FOR SONIC ADVENTURE 2.Just and only Nights into Dreams.
Posted by Fotis on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:40 am
Comment # 13
God. Breaks my heart I have to wait for a PC release. </3
Posted by Overlord on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:42 am
Comment # 14
I’m disappointed as hell at the final paragraph, like everyone else I was expecting them to be released today.
Posted by Adam on October 2nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
Comment # 15
Hoping for the PC version to be available before the end of the year! Speaking of SA2, maybe SEGA could consider coming up with a mini Chao Garden game for iOS/Android? I’ll definitely buy it!
Posted by ZZ on October 2nd, 2012 at 10:01 am
Comment # 16
PC in the coming MONTHS?
gee, thanks.
I really would have appreciated this information earlier, JSR’s PC release being close to the consoles made me think these might be similar.
Oh well, I guess now I can save the money I was saving for these on something else.
Posted by Chizu on October 2nd, 2012 at 10:18 am
Comment # 17
«if you’re a PC gamer (as I am) then you’re in luck»
Really? So as usual PC gamers are getting treated as second-rate customers, or an afterthought by having to wait potentially months for these releases, and we are in luck?
This is a huge step backwards, after the simultaneous release of Jet Set Radio.
Very disappointing.
I still don’t understand why the PC, a legit gaming platform as any, doesn’t warrant the effort for a simultaneous release, unlike the Xbox 360 and the PS3.
You build a fan base through solid products, and a good service, and clearly you’ve been failing on the later.
Posted by FunktionJCB on October 2nd, 2012 at 11:46 am
Comment # 18
I can’t understand how PC users are in luck when they’re the last ones who will be able to get those games. I’m really disappointed, we’ve been waiting for October and then, guess what? We will get the game so much later. I’m just hoping that we can get the game before 2013.
Posted by Eda on October 2nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Comment # 19
I do hope that Sega realizes a few things:
-Lack of a simultaneous release in any platforms means less day 1/full price sales
- Sega is not doing a favor to gamres by releasing their games to the market so they shouldn’t feel “in luck”, Sega should on another hand feel “in luck” if the customers decide to do business with Sega
-Lack of Information will result in diminish interest and awareness of the product by the market, or worse, disappointment and lost of interest (something that can already be observed via other comments in this blog or comments in various other online communities)
All of which result in less sales, less brand awareness and less money to Sega.
Posted by D on October 2nd, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Comment # 20
PC version changed from “Day 1″ to “wait for a sale”. ;/
Posted by Andysk8 on October 2nd, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Comment # 21
@ #9
“Legit gaming platform” perhaps- but that doesn’t deter from the fact that for the time being the main audience are usually those on consoles. While there’s a shift in that recently, I wouldn’t be surprised if they pushed the console releases ahead so that they can have time to give a decent port to PC.
Another thing to consider between consoles and PC- not everyone is going to have the same exact platform on a PC, whereas with consoles, they already know how to tweak things because (updates aside) it never changes. Not all PC gamers are going to have top-of-the-line or even game spec PCs (although if you’re a regular PC gamer you learn to customize how you want it to be to work how you need it to). So trying to make that as available as they can with the best range possible for the greatest amount of return- usually not a quick thing. (That and most likely different people from the JSR release than SA2- or who knows maybe they had more time with JSR- couldn’t tell ya.)
But basically you’re getting a re-release (despite not a physical copy, still at the very least the entire game) for a lot less than how ports used to be done.
That and with PC gaming ever evolving, pretty sure things (not just with SEGA, but other companies as well) are in a very transitional period. (Because eeeey, change happens.)
Not trying to make excuses for them, but at the same time I’d be happy the game’s being made available for PC in the first place.
Or you know, since you’ll be waiting anyway, keep whining about it. That’ll REALLY make the process any faster. (I bet they just can’t WAIT to get all of the files stripped down as mods and edits are made and pirated and the near endless fan renders that change textures to make it look like their fan character, g-mod, MMDs and all of those other wonderful things.)
Posted by Coconuts on October 2nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Comment # 22
@ #11
You can be happy that a game is being made available for PC and at the same time express discomfort because you feel like you’re treated like a 2nd class costumer. Both feelings aren’t mutually exclusive.
Your only valid point is the different PC hardware configurations that lengthen the QA process, the rest are poor made up excuses.
Posted by Newblade on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Comment # 23
Coconuts,
You had perfectly valid points, even if I don’t agree with several of them, until I entered your last paragraph and saw the usual piracy argument (as if consoles don’t have piracy either), or you likening my legit complains about the different treatment for the different platforms to “whining”, and I saw that you were just looking to start a platform “fight”, and I’m not doing that.
There’s a big difference between wanting something that the others aren’t getting, and wanting the same thing as everyone else. I’m not asking for PC exclusivity, or an earlier release on PC as opposed to the other platforms, I’m asking for the same treatment for my platform of choice, especially since we usually pay the same price (or sometimes even more) for the same product.
And no, since I’m a paying customer, I won’t just be happy that the game is making it to the PC in the first place. Why should I? If they don’t want to support the platform, and aren’t interested in the revenue releasing on the platform will bring them, it’s fine. Since gaming is, in the end, a non-essential expense, I can easily replace a gaming purchase with another gaming product, or any other leisure product (be it a film, a music cd, …).
I should add that I own a PC, an Xbox 360, a PS3 and a Wii.
But given the option, I will choose the PC every time, specially for a digital release. Besides the improved technical quality, the PC is my preferred platform for digital releases because if I want to play a title in 3-4 years I can perfectly do so without any hassle. As for the consoles, since content migration and post discontinuation support are pretty much up in the air, things aren’t so clear. Take the Xbox 360, for example: I own over 100 digital titles, and my console just broke down (even though I take extreme care with my hardware), so at the moment I can’t play any of them. Should I risk purchasing more digital titles on that platform, and risk being unable to play them as soon as the new console is around?
I hope SEGA reads our feedback and considers releasing future PC titles day and date with the other versions.
A good support for the platform goes a long wait to improve customer relations and the consequent commercial success on the PC.
Posted by FunktionJCB on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Comment # 24
Any chance these two titles will be available for the Wii or WiiU?
Posted by Andrew G. on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Comment # 25
@Coconuts
That last paragraph really derailed what was otherwise a reasonable post.
Also why should they care if people mod the game? if anything modability will increase sales, because people will buy the game specifically because they know they can mod in their custom (original do not steal) fan character.
I agree with FunktionJCB when it comes to treatment of the PC platform.
Sega are clearly realizing PC gaming is a very viable market right now, with places like steam bringing large sales of their releases, Sonic Generations PC port was good proof of this.
They just need to understand that to make the most gain, they need to treat it the same way they treat the consoles. Consumers do not like to feel that they are being treated as second rate, with constant delay of products, and sub-par treatment.
Now, I trust Sega will do a good job with the ports, JSR was a good example of that. They just need to sort out their releasing times.
Posted by Chizu on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Comment # 26
Honestly, If it was possible to get this or other Saturn titles on iOS or Android I’d eat that stuff up.
Posted by Gil M. on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Comment # 27
Oh, Also I forgot to bring up the lack of Transparency with the format.
They gave up zero information about the status of the pc version from the original announcement, waiting till the RELEASE day of the console version to even acknowledge it.
Had we been told from the start that yes, a pc version is coming, and it will be released a little behind the console versions, people would be less let down, because we had at least been informed.
It’s disappointing.
Posted by Chizu on October 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Comment # 28
Quick spoiler alert: Much like the recent SADX release, this is *not* a port of the Dreamcast version. It’s a port of the GameCube version, with the GC-specific functionality locked out by the DLC. Good luck trying to get 180 emblems without the DLC.
Posted by GerbilSoft on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Comment # 29
Andrew G.: “Any chance these two titles will be available for the Wii or WiiU?”
If you have a Wii, go buy Sonic Adventure 2: Battle for GameCube. It’s the same game, except you don’t have to pay extra for stuff that’s already on the disc.
Posted by GerbilSoft on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Comment # 30
These titles will not be avaliable for PC?
Posted by Tiago on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Comment # 31
Thank you i still need to find a sega saturn but knights cost so much $ now just to play and sonic 2 i got it on gamecube and dreamcast but $10 is fine with me i will buy it to. then jet grind radio made my day when that came out for xbox360.
Posted by Andrew.w on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Comment # 32
I bought NiGHTS on PSN and I did not get a theme like the blog post says I should.
Posted by cheezr on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Comment # 33
Holy Christ yes, I have been waiting for SA2 for so long
Posted by redjarman on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Comment # 34
NO! D: Not for Playstation >_>
I want Sonic Adventure 2 HD for Wii U!
Playstation sucks -_-
Posted by TheLegendKevin on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Comment # 35
But are either of these games coming to the Wii U’s eShop? It would be great if you all could address that.
Posted by Red Echidna on October 2nd, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Comment # 36
PC users so lucky!
Posted by anon on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Comment # 37
@ FunktionJCB & Chizu
Faith in level-headed fans restored +2.
While I may not be one of them (level-headed that is), better to have a cohesive reply from the other side versus “NO U”. Good show.
Next course of action? Perhaps having a designated PC team who can port the ports on time so that SEGA can keep up with demand and be that much more ahead of things.
Posted by Coconuts on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Comment # 38
Really? Battle mode is DLC? :/ That just seems like a petty cash grab…
Posted by skypengu on October 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Comment # 39
Hey everyone — just wanted to reply to some of what I saw in the comments here! I understand the sensitivity over release dates and that if you are waiting for a PC version, then you don’t want to feel short-changed. It has been previously announced that it is coming to PC — that’s not new. If you feel like that was a backhanded way to mention it, please accept my apologies. I meant it as a reminder.
First, ‘months’ is the language from the press release. The choice to add that we’re in luck was mine. I totally see why it was taken as a ‘you’re in luck you have to wait’ comment but it was meant more along the lines of ‘those of us who care about PC games can be happy knowing that it is on the way.’
It’s not meant as an exact figure — it doesn’t mean that it will take X or more months. It means the date is ‘to be announced’. That is literally all it means. I think in general, companies have to be cautious about release dates, especially if they estimate too early. I can’t say more because we don’t have more information to impart.
Second, my enthusiasm there is real.
I am looking forward to playing it on PC. Given a choice it’s where I play most games. I am speaking 100% as a fan there — sometimes I get caught up in being able to write about games I am a genuine fan of. So when I say ‘you’re in luck’, it means that for multi-platform release PC games haven’t always gotten the best possible version. I’m happy to say that’s changing. This was not a guarantee in the past.
Obviously it would be best if everything released together, but that simply can’t always happen. Here’s why:
The extra time is not because we didn’t develop the PC version along with everything else. XBLA and PSN have a much more streamlined release structure — it’s part of what makes those platforms so appealing. ‘PC’ is not a single store, though — there are a lot of different moving parts and places that may sell a given game, be it Amazon or Steam or Origin or GOG or whatever. To make sure those line up takes a little longer, especially at a time of year when companies release a ton of games.
I hope that helps explain the comment — I know no one likes to wait. I can’t tell anyone they have to like waiting a little longer, but for now that’s what we have to do. These games and the fan communities for them mean a ton to me, so if there’s any questions or lingering doubts, please let me know, I’ll try to answer as best I can.
Posted by Edward@Sega on October 2nd, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Comment # 40
VIVA PC! VIVA SEGA! VIVA SONIC ADVENTURE 2!
Posted by Mina on October 2nd, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Comment # 41
lo ubieran sacado los 2 juegos en la wii
Posted by juan on October 2nd, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Comment # 42
Please make a DLC for Sonic Adventure 2! Add more playable characters! (besides the ones from battle) More playable stages in multiplayer! (especially Green Hill Zone!) And add online multiplayer!
Posted by Seth on October 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Comment # 43
Yessss its all what I want, I was wish for so long Nights into the Dreams!!!!! thank you SEGA!! I will buy on PSN right now!
Posted by Rhener Furtado on October 2nd, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Comment # 44
I Want Sonic Adventure 2 for PC Please
Posted by Sonicxguia on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Comment # 45
Ohh its must come in a month time
Posted by Rhener Furtado on October 2nd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Comment # 46
Where is Shenmue HD ?
Posted by Ezra on October 2nd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Comment # 47
Sega, for the love of god i beg of you, get these two games on steam ASAP!!
Posted by Blue on October 2nd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Comment # 48
I hoped NiGHTS will be released on PC day one. Oh well, I’m happy we’re getting it at all. The next release is Shenmue HD, eh?
Posted by CortexReaver on October 2nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Comment # 49
PAL today?
Posted by Samuc on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Comment # 50
I purchased sonic 2 on ps3 along with a $2 premium theme… it made no mention of this free theme you speak of. What gives?
Posted by jayZ on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Comment # 51
SEGA – you’ve literally made my dreams come true! =D Aside from somehow plugging the Saturn 3D Control Pad into the PS3, I don’t see how this could be any better. Can’t wait to unlock Christmas NiGHTS!
Also – I might be missing something, but how do we get the free PS3 theme? Would love a NiGHTS take over on my home screen! =D
Posted by Morgan on October 2nd, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Comment # 52
@Edward@Sega
I’m sorry but that the following is a flat out lie
“XBLA and PSN have a much more streamlined release structure”
XBLA and PSN limit when you can release games while on Steam it’s simply whenever you want and you can release patches whenever you want as well for free, there is also no annoying review process for publishers meanwhile tons of games have been delayed on XBLA because of their internal review system that. SA2 uses Steamworks which means when you buy it on sites like Amazon you’re buying a download code to enter into Steam which streamlines the process even further. I have no doubt that there’s some strange palm greasing going on behind countless games not hitting the PC for weeks on end probably because they fear Steam.
Posted by Heisenberg on October 2nd, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Comment # 53
Edward@Sega: “‘PC’ is not a single store, though — there are a lot of different moving parts and places that may sell a given game, be it Amazon or Steam or Origin or GOG or whatever.”
Does this mean that NiGHTS and Sonic Adventure 2 may be coming to other digital distribution services besides Steam? I would love to see classic Sega games DRM-free on GOG.com; they are a perfect match for the service.
I’m really looking forward to playing NiGHTS in HD. Let’s hope that Sega gives the Panzer Dragoon series the same treatment in the future.
Posted by Solo Wing on October 2nd, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Comment # 54
Is House of the Dead 4 coming to PC?
A website said that will have PC version but no date announced:
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=3897&game=The%20House%20Of%20The%20Dead%204
Posted by chinesehodfans on October 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 am
Comment # 55
also,I have waiting Virtua Cop 3 a PC port,it has been 8 years since sega only release arcade version but xbox version canceled,and disregard
Posted by chinesehodfans on October 3rd, 2012 at 12:34 am
Comment # 56
And it seems we wait again for the PC … I was worried Sega just screwed us over. You know the say way they did for the Sonic 20th Anniversary addition ONLY released in Europe and Australia … yeah that still pisses me off
Posted by James IV on October 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 am
Comment # 57
Sonic adventure 2 on Xbox live for my birthday :’) so happy
Posted by Eagletux on October 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 am
Comment # 58
wish i had the money for sa2
Posted by kimplix on October 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 am
Comment # 59
@chinesehodfans: HOTD4 will never be released on PC, trust me. That info is NOT legit.
Posted by Tyrael87 on October 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 am
Comment # 60
Um i would like to ask when is it out for the uk at what time? :s
Posted by kakkacarrotcake on October 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
Comment # 61
I grabbed both of these last night but didn’t see anything about a theme for either. How do you get it or know if you got it?
Also, if feedback is ever passed on from here, I’d give SEGA lots of money for a port of Legend of Oasis. That and NiGHTS duked it out for my favorite Saturn game. I’m still not sure there was ever a clear winner.
Posted by Daverost on October 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 am
Comment # 62
UK PSN user here, the post says the Battle DLC will be £1.99, but is currently priced at £3.69 on there. Is this a mistake on PSN or on the post?
Posted by Warpshade on October 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 am
Comment # 63
Well I bought Sonic Adventure 2, I love that game since it was launched on Dreamcast, thank you SEGA from bringing this amazing and awesome game (I also want to buy it for PC but I really don’t like that it will be available in the coming MONTHS)
I was hoping to get the “free” theme, but I didn’t get anything, I had to buy it for $1.49, why did you told us that everyone who buys either game on the PSN will get a SA2 or NiGHTS theme for FREE when that’s not true!
One last thing, it could be great if you re-release Daytona HD or Panzer Dragoon Series
Posted by Juan Pablo on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 am
Comment # 64
I swear if Panzer Dragon Saga got a HD remake I think I would collapse from excitement
Posted by Elderlygoose on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
Comment # 65
Solo Wing: Sorry, I don’t have info on that — just giving examples on how stuff tends to work on PC. I live on Steam in my off hours and am in favor of everything arriving there but anyone out there who is a long-time PC gamer is used to adapting … it’s the price we pay for the flexibility of running games the way we like.
Most titles end up available several places. I don’t have info for you on how Nights & SA2 on PC will be distributed. When a specific platform or platform are announced for PC, that will be the confirmation.
Posted by Edward@Sega on October 3rd, 2012 at 10:40 am
Comment # 66
Though I’m dissapointed its not day and date, I booted up Steam expecting it, I’m grateful it’s coming. 1080p 3d Vision is the Dream.
I wish Sega was more nostolgic with there 32bit era, for us 30+ year olds who still love video games that was our childhood.
A couple of things, Shenmue HD would need a lot of tweeks to speed it up (like what 2 did), and though PD Saga would look cleaner in hd, it would look be super chunky. I would love it none the less, but it wouldnt pull in the people who don’t know why its so great.
Posted by Mark on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:12 am
Comment # 67
Hmm I was hoping to play the PC version in october. Didn’t mind a few weeks after release, but months…. and being called lucky? >.<
Anyway, I'm glad they'll take the time for the port, hope it won't be a crappy one like the SADX port on steam which is far from something that should be called a HD re-release. And never got updated or something to fix it's issues. :/
Posted by Hedgy on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:36 am
Comment # 68
I hope the extra time needed for the PC version actually shows though. Jet Set Radio HD could definitely have used more polish (see my thread on the configuration window). That said, I’ll still get NiGHTS on XBLA/PSN first before buying the PC version just to support Sega’s decision to convert them. And because I really want to see HD versions of the Panzer Dragoon games
Posted by Draikin on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
Comment # 69
I also don’t see the FREE theme as promised after purchasing the games.
Please advise.
Posted by HKforever on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:54 am
Comment # 70
Thanks for re-releasing Nights! I really wanted to play this since forever!
I don’t like Adventure 2 too much.. but why can’t I fight the hype in spite of that!?
Also SEGA, can you guys PLEASE drop the price on Sonic 4: Episode II on PSN? Mobiles and Xbox already had their share of a price drop, now do it for PSN, I BEG you!
Posted by ecchi on October 3rd, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Comment # 71
Now You Get SA1 And 2 For PSN, Xbox Live But Now I Want To See And Call It Sonic Adventure Hd Remix For PS Vita!
Posted by Shawndell Rivers on October 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Comment # 72
I been waiting a hole day for sonic adventure 2 on PSN it’s still not on there only Battle DLC in UK
Posted by Oliver on October 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Comment # 73
Ok, I bought both games on the PSN, where are the themes?
Posted by Matt Davidson on October 3rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Comment # 74
mod of this blog is xbla having trouble why the delay till friday does not make much sense
Posted by k on October 3rd, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Comment # 75
Yeah, I definitely don’t have the themes for the two games. I see them in the themes section of PSN and they’re not listed as tied to my account. I have to pay for them.
How were we supposed to get these if we bought the games?
Posted by Daverost on October 3rd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Comment # 76
I’ve been so excited about the release of Sonic Adventure 2 for PC since the day it was first speculated. I still remember when it first came out for Dreamcast. I was 7, and went to Funcoland with my dad. The coolest poster ever showed Sonic and Shadow on the front of it, and I was so excited because of how much I loved the first Sonic Adventure. Then I found out I could actually play the game in the store! I thought the game was so awesome that I didn’t even wanna leave the store, even after my dad bought the game for me.
When it was released for the Gamecube, I bought it right away. This created the #1 childhood memory I was able to share with my best friend. I still have the chao garden music stuck in my head. After I found out about the release for the PC, I called my old childhood friend and dedicated the whole month of October 2012 to Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. I even USB to Gamecube controller adapters we’d be using to play it.
After reading this article, I was devastated to hear how I now have to wait months for the PC release, as I don’t have a PS3 or Xbox 360. I felt like I was being treated as a second-rate customer. I became angry at Sega, and scoured the comments section for any last glimmer of hope. I then stumbled across Edward’s apology to other distraught commentors. Before reading that, I was prepared to not even purchase Sonic Adventure 2 Battle when it came to PC, and then boycott Sega products. This single apology has led me to change my attitude. That level of customer respect means a lot to me.
I am still disgusted by the fact that Sega has done very little to announce the release of these two games for PC, and never gave us a release date. Other games weren’t released like that, so I see no justifiable reason to do so now. I hope Sega sees that as a stupid move, and will at least give us a definite release date of future games, even if it isn’t near the releases of them for other platforms.
Given this extended amount of time, I have higher expectations for the quality of this port. Unlike previous Sonic games ported to PC, I hope this release will include better gamepad support. It’s nearly impossible to configure Sonic Adventure DX for use with an Xbox 360 controller comfortably. These games were never originally designed for use with a keyboard and mouse, so I see lacking good gamepad support as a big problem.
Another thing I have higher expectations of is game settings. PC hardware varies greatly, and that should be reflected in the settings. It would be great to have anisotropic filtering and anti-aliasing. It would also be nice to have v-sync, a variable screen resolution, and several selections for quality of textures and shaders. After all, that’s what PC gaming is all about.
Posted by Jimma on October 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Comment # 77
Still waiting for you guys to give us Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity…
It’s going to be two whole years soon. I am happy about SA2 getting rereleased, though.
Posted by Bawk on October 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Comment # 78
Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but when Looking on the playstation store on my PS3. I could only find the SA2 Battle DLC game pack but I could not find the demo/actual game to purchase on the store? Any reason for that? I searched ‘sonic’ and checked the ‘sonic collections’ to no avail.
I live in the UK.
Posted by V. on October 4th, 2012 at 7:09 am
Comment # 79
Hey Gestapo, mind telling me why you instantly delete any comment that so much as mentions Infinity? Quality practice, there.
Posted by Kook on October 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Comment # 80
Yeh its one thing to have the PC verison delayed, but as #16 said, the worst thing is that we don’t get any word of a release date so we just assume its the same as the consoles, only to get told ON THEIR RELEASE DAY that its TBA. All they needed to do was let us know awhile back it wouldnt be at the same time as consoles.
Posted by Cool_Z on October 4th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Comment # 81
Just curious of how does one get the free theme on ps3 because I bought sonic adventure 2
Posted by liledawg on October 4th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Comment # 82
What time of day is SA2 coming out? I am waiting for it to appear on xbox live arcade
Posted by Rocky on October 5th, 2012 at 4:57 am
Comment # 83
Were is the games on xbox live arcade? I dont find enyone on Xbox live.
Posted by Ronan on October 5th, 2012 at 5:28 am
Comment # 84
Can someone help me out? When I try to download SA2 for XBLA, I get a status code error.
Posted by MaximumAK777 on October 5th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Comment # 85
Please make sonic adventure 2 on blue ray for ps3 because my Internet is slow and it takes forever to download
Please sega , I didn’t play it before and I want to play it
Please
Posted by Where is sonic herose on October 5th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Comment # 86
MaximumAK777, go to xbox.com, login, search for Sonic Adventure 2. You can purchase it there and it will automatically be added to your download queue on your Xbox 360
Posted by DJKidna on October 5th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Comment # 87
The XBLA marketplace has been giving errors all day on these games. You can buy them from the XBox website, but I’d want to try a demo first. Oddly enough neither game on the website offers one.
Posted by SestrenNK on October 5th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Comment # 88
Are the few months for PC over yet?
Posted by Hedgy on October 5th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Comment # 89
PROBLEM IN XBLA FIX IT ALREDY PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by Dragonx15 on October 5th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Comment # 90
I have the points in another account and I don’t have a credit card
Posted by Dragonx15 on October 5th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Comment # 91
nights. its nice but its the PS2 japan special edition from dec 07/jan 08. in HD, but its weird and doesn’t play as nice or smooth as ss original.
programmed by sega shanghai, lol.
sa2 is sa2b from gamecube, extremely close to the dc original, but there are a few things different. (billboard textures, attracts, etc.)
exactly why i keep and will still play the SS and DC originals!
THis is great sega, i bought both, but if you say they are original, they should be. Please bring us Scudrace, DaytonaUSA2:BattleOnTheEdge, Ollie King, VirtuaCop3, Shenmue3, and VF4:FinalTuned!
Posted by am2model3 on October 5th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Comment # 92
I’m basically making a wish and a half on getting this answered, but here goes nothing:
So, I bought SA2 today on PSN, the game was all there and everything (And for the sake of mentioning, I also bought Sonic Adventure and Sonic 2, which were the last games I needed for PS3 Sonic games
), except one problem: I never got the Sonic Adventure 2 PS3 Theme. I checked on the themes bar obviously, and all I had were the same ones as always (Also for the sake of mentioning, Sonic CD theme, Sonic Adventure theme, and Michael Jackson theme because of the movie). Is there something I’m missing here? It says “either”, so that wouldn’t mean I need to buy NiGHTS as well. If someone could help me out with this, I’d very much appreciate it. :3
Also, if it helps out at all, the way I bought Sonic Adventure 2 was by getting the demo (On the first day
), and then getting the Full Game Unlock. Hopefully this doesn’t make a difference as to whether I get my theme or not. 
Posted by MegaRevolution1 on October 5th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Comment # 93
Anyone know how to contact with Sega Shanghai?
I can send a e-mail in Chinese,request for HOD4PC >.<
Posted by chinesehodfans on October 6th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Comment # 94
Sega, I contacted Sony about the free theme promotion after Sega customer support said that they couldn’t help. Sony says they’re unaware of this promotion.
I think you guys need to uhh… sort this out with each other.
Posted by Daverost on October 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Comment # 95
I gotta say that while I liked what you did with NiGHTS, I was hoping you would show the same love to Christmas NiGHTS. The lack of Saturn mode and the omission of certain unlocks (‘Sonic The Hedgehog Into Dreams’) makes me sad. Sonic Team put a lot of love into the original demo. Why did you stop here?
Posted by Freakservo on October 7th, 2012 at 8:49 am
Comment # 96
No PC version
Please release it for PC and i will buy it
We Want SHENMUE HD for Pc please
We all Miss Shenmue 1 and 2 please
thanks
Posted by SHM on October 8th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Comment # 97
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Posted by jeusu on October 8th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Comment # 98
this is bs the only thing I can find is the battle dlc sa2 hasnt been released in the store in the uk we’re just being shoved to the side like we’re nothing we want it released where the hell is it?
Posted by adam on October 9th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Comment # 99
will it be able for the vita?
Posted by trololo on October 9th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Comment # 100
Fantastic! Already playing Nights at Live and loving it the same wonderful way as it was back in Saturn days. Great release, congrats to Sega!
Posted by Jetstor on October 9th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Comment # 101
I just unlocked everything looking for Sonic into Dreams from Christmas NiGHTS, no luck. I echo what Freakservo said, why not a straight port of Christmas NiGHTS?
Posted by Stooball on October 10th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Comment # 102
when ps3 version coming out in uk
Posted by c on October 10th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Comment # 103
Please Sega,
I want Sonic Adventure 2 Quickly on my PC
Hurry up
Thank you.
Posted by FrenchGamer on October 11th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Comment # 104
Hey Sega, I’m not one of those obnoxious fans who don’t shut up about Chao Garden, but how about making a smartphone game where you can raise your own Chao and make in app purchases to buy fruit and toys etc. to level up your Chao? Just a suggestion though, I’d love to see it on my Xperia Play.
Posted by Chaos9051 on October 14th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Comment # 105
SEGA, I know that you’ve done all you can to get SA2 out to everything. I’m not here to rant about the PC version because that will come when it comes. However, there are some pressing issues with the PSN and XBLA versions of SA2(B).
I would get this on both my PS3 and my Xbox 360 just for that (I only have this on my Xbox 360 right now)
I myself have SA2B (got the battle DLC) and my problem is that the models for Sonic and Shadow in multiplayer mode are the downgraded models that were used in the GC version of SA2B for multiplayer. I’ve assumed that the reason for this in the GC version was due to framerate issues but I’m sure the Xbox 360 and the PS3 are capable of using their normal models from the single player stories. I know it’s a port and it’s meant to stick closely to the original, but I’m sure a lot more people will be happier if that gets sorted out? If not, well, I’ll be playing by myself
One last thing – online multiplayer is perfect for this game. If you had that, your sales would probably skyrocket. Just saying
Thanks SEGA, if you’re ever bothered to read it
Posted by Michael on October 15th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Comment # 106
forget sonic and nights we want PHANTASY STAR PORTABLE 2 INFINITY!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by a on October 15th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Comment # 107
I have to say, I do enjoy the 360 version in HD. I would definitely like to get the PC version though, mainly for enjoyment anytime or mods, etc. (I only get the TV at certain times at my house).
Regarding a certain comment, I have to say this: I don’t think the game is based strictly off of the GCN version. I’ve read about graphical differences between the DC and GCN versions, and after playing the main story, I must say that it seems SEGA just combined the best versions of both games. I’ve seen some graphical differences that I didn’t see on the GCN, like a little extra detail. Plus, (while I don’t care for this example) even if you download the Battle DLC, you still see all of Big the Cat’s cameos (except for one, from what I’ve heard), which were only on the DC.
As for multiplayer, I like how they put in about 2/3 of the game’s levels (however, this is from a standpoint of playing multiplayer in a long time. I also didn’t have time to check if there were any differences between this and Battle, as I was in a hot rush to play this again). Nice variety. Another difference is that you start out with one additional outfit for the 6 main characters (in Battle, you only got one outfit once you got all A-Ranks with a character).
I also think the Achievements are well worth getting, especially for Kart Racing and Chao Raising.
All in all, like I said, I think SEGA combined the best of both versions into a widescreen HD experience, and they did a very good job at it. I can patiently wait for the PC version.
Posted by K-Dawg on October 16th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Comment # 108
is PC version developing or what? HELLO!!! last week of October already and still no sight of PC version
Posted by Metaforce on October 25th, 2012 at 3:17 am
Comment # 109
Where is PC version ?!
Posted by Oniseb on October 27th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Comment # 110
Still waiting for the PC version….
Posted by EmeraldHunter on October 30th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Comment # 111
SA2 was honestly the best game in my memories… I’d love to replay it again and collect all the A ranks!
Posted by Depaul on November 1st, 2012 at 7:20 am
Comment # 112
I like this game ,and I waiting SA2B on PC.I live in Ukraine.and i can make mistake at this letter.When the game out?я очень жду эту игру.
Posted by dimch on November 1st, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Comment # 113
Not a good day for the PC gamers
At least there is a PC veersion
Posted by ソニック ヘッジホッグ on November 2nd, 2012 at 6:51 pm
Comment # 114
I can’t believe my eyes reading those comments, I mean no offense but honestly it’s ridicolous how unreasonably demanding more than half of you guys are.
Good things take their time, especially with a modular platform like the PC it is more than simple copy and paste to make a game run. You need to regard the low end, average end and high end gamers, and need to satisfy those. Xbox and PS3 are streamlined in the sense that you have one piece of hardware you can optimize your game for, and especially with a game like Sonic, you need to make sure it runs good.
So I’m all down waiting for the PC release no matter how long it takes, no sweat. I invested days playing Sonic Adventure 2 Battle on the Gamecube, so I rather want to have a good PC port than a sloppy one just for the sake of a simultaneous release with the consoles.
You know, they could always decide against a PC port, but they don’t because they care about us. If we PC gamers were second class, we wouldn’t even get a port to begin with, and try to imagine that instead of moaning over a soon release. Because honestly it is really just reasonable that they take their time instead of rushing a port, but sadly to most they are too stubborn to DEMAND THEIR STUFF now to see even a faintest spark of reason.
So SEGA, and especially Edward, I gotta give you mad props for taking your time to reply to us and for even at least confirming the PC Port with this post for sure. It might take till end of year, it might just come next summer. You gotta know, I will buy it day 1, because SEGA is one of the few communities that actually give a damn about PC gaming, so I know the port is going to be good, and I wanna tell you guys to keep up the good work.
To all others, you need to be patient. I, for myself, feel really lucky to get this game for PC. It could’ve gone differently, but it is coming to PC, and that is making me really happy.
PS: How can anyone even misunderstand that? Of course PC Gamers these days are lucky to get a PC version, most other companies just neglect us gamers with awful ports or no PC version at all.
Posted by Doctective on November 6th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Comment # 115
I don’t see many asking for this, but I gotta say it. I would love to see online multiplayer for versus and chao modes. I’d even pay extra to see it added. My friends and I all rushed to get it hoping such would be the case (we spent many, many days grinding out those shiny little vials to raise our Chao in the hopes of besting one another) and, while we love playing Sonic Adventure 2 Battle again, it was disappointing to see.
Posted by Ninmast on November 7th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Comment # 116
My biggest concern here is with the “months” statement. even if we could have a rough time estimate (if not an exact date), it would be more comforting than “months.”
The problem is, with vague delaying like that, I can very easily see the PC version getting cancelled. Especially given that now, over a month later, we haven’t gotten a drop of news about it. Not a hint, not even a reference they’re even still working on it. This isnt a new game we’re talking about, here. Its a port. A small scale port meant to cash in on a game’s popularity/legacy. No matter how much we love these games (I do, and I bet most people here do, too), its still only a port, and I have a hard time seeing a profiteering company reallocating any significant resources to this project for any significant amount of time. As “months” progress, the money invested in the project will outgrow the profits they’ll make by releasing it: its not like this will fly off the digital shelves, you know.
All I want is some concrete news or a vague time date so I can know that the PC ports aren’t on their way to the digital scrap heap.
Posted by DarkBuster on November 10th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Comment # 117
You know guys, I feel a bit awkward because I keep checking back here almost daily because
I’m eager to have any kind of information about the PC version of SA2HD. I don’t mind the delay, it’s just the deep silence that is starting to disturb me. Please give us a life sign or something. Edward? Could you please just post another message here to assure me (us) that I’m (we are) not waiting pointlessly? That’d set us at ease I think. XD
Posted by EchidnaNose on November 14th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Comment # 118
am I blind or thomething? I went to links that lead to minisites of those games, on NiGHTS into dreams I see that this game already aviable for PC download as also even Jet Set Radio, but for Sonic Adventure 2 there no sight of PC version, my guess that for Sonic Adventure 2 PC gamers are screwd, cuz this version was only on possibilyty, but SEGA decited to throw it away and make Sonic Adventure 2 only for XBOX360 and PS3
Posted by Metaforce on November 15th, 2012 at 3:28 am
Comment # 119
Hot off the presses! Sonic Adventure HD for PC is coming to your favorite online game retailers on MONDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2012!
Posted by Hifihedgehog on November 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Comment # 120
Remove spaces and go this link: ( http:// http://www.tssznews.com/ 2012/11/16/sa2-arrives-on-pc-monday/ )
Posted by Hifihedgehog on November 16th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Comment # 121
https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/269535248742772736
Posted by Hifihedgehog on November 16th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Comment # 122
Err… My excitement got the best of me, where I should have wrote “Remove THE spaces and go TO this link” but I believe you can still get the gist of my posts even with these grammatical errors.
Posted by Hifihedgehog on November 16th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Comment # 123
“Hm. Finally decided to show up, eh? Ok! Bring it on!”
Can’t wait ’til Monday! Finally! XD
Posted by EchidnaNose on November 17th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Comment # 124
Well they have Nights Into Dreams on PC Download that means Sonic Adventure 2 is NEXT !!!!!!!!!
Posted by sa2 rocks! on November 19th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Comment # 125
Thanks sega.
Posted by depaul on November 20th, 2012 at 2:38 am
Comment # 126
I want to buy these games on iOS!!
Posted by Jon S on December 1st, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Comment # 127
I want to play nights on my iPad2. Sega really needs like a classic game selection recommendation for iOS users. I wouldn’t seeing panzer dragon as well.
Posted by Chuck on January 10th, 2013 at 11:37 am
Comment # 128
Just testes SA2. A bit disappointed because, again, no Gamepad support. Fortunately, the community found ways and programmed DLLs so that Gamepad Support can be added.
However, it’s a bit sad to release a platform game, not caring about people who actually want to play it like they did on the consoles of the 1990s, instead relying on the keyboard.
Also, no 64bit support. For such an old game, none may be needed, still it is disappointing having to run games in 32bit compatibility mode (again, gives issues with DLLs), when we are used to all other software being 64bit for years.
Graphics could have also improved a bit more.
Still, a nice game, though I enjoy Sonic 4 more (which shares some of the issues).
Posted by David on January 13th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Comment # 129
Dear Sega
Please give Wii U owners Nights into Dreams HD in the Eshop. it’s only right. The game has been released for every other platform except the Wii U. Which makes no sense considering the sequel remains exclusive to a Nintendo console. So why isn’t the original masterpiece available on a Nintendo console? Please give me Nights into Dreams in the Wii U eshop.
Posted by GoldDreams on June 7th, 2013 at 4:35 pm